'Why Study Philosophy'

[yiostheoy]

Someone doesn't understand what America is...^^^

America is changing.

As is England.

Same reason.

The vermin of immigration.

 

[Unkotare]

Cambridge University philosopher and historian William Whewell first used the term "scientist" in 1834.


Thales of Miletus


Hu Shi


Ibn al-Haytham,


Ge Hong


William Gilbert


Francis Bacon

 

[Unkotare]

Someone doesn't understand what America is...^^^

America is changing.......

America has always been changing. That - along with immigration - is one of the hallmarks of America. Anyone who understands America would know that.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

My Daughter has just started studying Philosophy at a top University.She was told that a decent Philosophy degree could be used as a platform for many diverse career path.

Personally I would prefer it if she had done an English Lit course instead but there you go.

She is amazing.

She got her first job at the age of 14. She went into the chippy and told them that they needed more staff because she had to wait 20 minutes the night before. They hired her on the spot.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Someone doesn't understand what America is...^^^

America is changing.

As is England.

Same reason.

The vermin of immigration.

Yeah man, it started with the damn English, then the Irish, Germans and Italians.

 

[Subatomic]

Someone doesn't understand what America is...^^^

America is changing.

As is England.

Same reason.

The vermin of immigration.

Yeah man, it started with the damn English, then the Irish, Germans and Italians.

Have you noticed in LA there's little Italy, little Tokyo, China Town..ect... Ummm, so where's little Mexico? Well the truth is we can't use "little" in this case, just "Los Angeles" will do [emoji6]

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[Wry Catcher]

Someone doesn't understand what America is...^^^

America is changing.

As is England.

Same reason.

The vermin of immigration.

Yeah man, it started with the damn English, then the Irish, Germans and Italians.

Have you noticed in LA there's little Italy, little Tokyo, China Town..ect... Ummm, so where's little Mexico? Well the truth is we can't use "little" in this case, just "Los Angeles" will do [emoji6]

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Umm. yeah I've noticed. What's your point?

 

[Subatomic]

Someone doesn't understand what America is...^^^

America is changing.

As is England.

Same reason.

The vermin of immigration.

Yeah man, it started with the damn English, then the Irish, Germans and Italians.

Have you noticed in LA there's little Italy, little Tokyo, China Town..ect... Ummm, so where's little Mexico? Well the truth is we can't use "little" in this case, just "Los Angeles" will do [emoji6]

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Umm. yeah I've noticed. What's your point?

Oh you've noticed? Great! Life is grand isn't it? [emoji460] Lol

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[Oz of Sahul]

Philosophy is a good subject but I can agree that one doesn't need to go to Uni to study it, unless he/she wished to study what is already 'known'. To study what is to 'know' requires being out there in the world.
There is a New Philosophy emerging that is called 'Global Philosophy' where Philosophers are attending to the new playing field of how the world has become the way it is and why? Discovering where it all started and where it will all end.
I give you a taste. The continuous use of the 'End of the World' perception can be found used by the USA culture often. In fact, its a strong factor of USA consciousness. But this can be explained by the fact that USA really is at the 'End of the World' regarding the International DateLine. Of how the USA began with 'Hope & Glory', kinda puts this in its place. Something wonderful at the start but 'doom' in the end. Australia on the other hand (to bring balance) started with the 'doom' of a Penal Colony but it perceives its future as wonderful in the end, especially when it is at the Start of the World. So with this in consideration, the understanding of 'how the world works' begins and why Societies are the way they are and will be, etc.
There is much much more to it all - as is all that there is to 'know' about the world today. So you could say - sure the 'old' Philosophies are good, but the New Philosophies will be just as good. Welcome to the Renaissance of Philosophy.

 

[Unkotare]

Large-grip Crayon nonsense from the uneducated.

 

[midcan5]

Does studying Philosophy make you smarter or are you just smart? I don't mean in the test smarter either because I have found through a lifetime of a variety of jobs, military service, and managing people that intelligence is a complicated thing and some of the smartest people are really dumb when it comes to life and even work. In the end does the study make one a better citizen? If so then one can understand why conservatives often argue against knowledge as knowledge frees one from ideology.

Philosophy and standardized test scores: causation or correlation?

Link below came from article above.

https://campuspress.yale.edu/shellykagan/files/2016/07/Why-Study-Philosophy-1fwj3ad.pdf

"In November I realized that there was a major defect in my account of emotions that meant that I had to write a new book showing the primary role of fear, and how fear infects all the other emotions. So that's the most recent large change." Martha Nussbaum

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

If one combined a Philosophy Major with an Art Major ....one could "draw their own conclusions" expertly ...

 

[yiostheoy]

I think if you/I spelled out philosophy for the average person, then even they could get it.

However not being very bright they would never appreciate philosophy or its importance.

And then they would just fall back on their usual fallacies -- worshipping religion as science or worshipping science as religion.

 

[MikeK]

Does studying Philosophy make you smarter or are you just smart? I don't mean in the test smarter either because I have found through a lifetime of a variety of jobs, military service, and managing people that intelligence is a complicated thing and some of the smartest people are really dumb when it comes to life and even work. In the end does the study make one a better citizen? If so then one can understand why conservatives often argue against knowledge as knowledge frees one from ideology.

Philosophy and standardized test scores: causation or correlation?

Link below came from article above.

https://campuspress.yale.edu/shellykagan/files/2016/07/Why-Study-Philosophy-1fwj3ad.pdf

"In November I realized that there was a major defect in my account of emotions that meant that I had to write a new book showing the primary role of fear, and how fear infects all the other emotions. So that's the most recent large change." Martha Nussbaum

 

[MikeK]

[...]

If so then one can understand why conservatives often argue against knowledge as knowledge frees one from ideology.

[...]

This is a valid observation but it doesn't apply only to conservatives. There are dimwits on both sides of the political divide.

 

[yiostheoy]

Knowledge is simply data that we have evidence about.

Without Philosophy there is no way to process knowledge and then you are no better off than a superstitious Religionist or worse a scientist who has made Science their Religion.

 

[PK1]

usual fallacies -- worshipping religion as science or worshipping science as religion.

Non-critical worshipping is NOT philosophy.
Philosophy is the basis of science.
Non-critical faith is the basis of religion, salted with confirmation bias for cultural variants.

 

[task0778]

usual fallacies -- worshipping religion as science or worshipping science as religion.

Non-critical worshipping is NOT philosophy.
Philosophy is the basis of science.
Non-critical faith is the basis of religion, salted with confirmation bias for cultural variants.

Not sure what you mean by 'non-critical', but philosophy is about more than just science. Philosophy also deals with the metaphysical side of existence, abstract studies of the nature of existence, meaning of life, spirituality and religion, and man's values, behavior, and beliefs. So, your personal brand of philosophy might be the foundation upon which you base your religious faith and worship. IMHO the two are connected, you actions are an extension of your philosophy.

 

[PK1]

usual fallacies -- worshipping religion as science or worshipping science as religion.

Non-critical worshipping is NOT philosophy.
Philosophy is the basis of science.
Non-critical faith is the basis of religion, salted with confirmation bias for cultural variants.

Not sure what you mean by 'non-critical', but philosophy is about more than just science. Philosophy also deals with the metaphysical side of existence, abstract studies of the nature of existence, meaning of life, spirituality and religion, and man's values, behavior, and beliefs. So, your personal brand of philosophy might be the foundation upon which you base your religious faith and worship. IMHO the two are connected, you actions are an extension of your philosophy.

True; philosophy has variants that study what "reality" may be.
I prefer the approaches reflective of ontology, logic, and epistemology.
In other words, if one makes a claim, it should not only be rational, but there should be some "objective" evidence associated with it.
Obviously, science rules that domain, as well as ignosticism/agnosticism beyond the observable.

 

[midcan5]

One of my best threads. Lots of views and hopefully thinking. An interesting piece on two pragmatists:

"What is it about philosophy that makes long dead philosophers interesting in a way that long dead physicists are not?" Fans of Einstein might object, but it’s an intriguing question and typical of their inviting style."

"The crux of their dispute centered on how far to take pragmatism. Rorty thought that the things we believe to be true aren’t actually connected to reality: There is the stuff we say, and then there is the actual world, and never the twain shall meet. We agree on certain conventions in order to function, but we’ll never arrive at anything like truth. Putnam meanwhile held to the idea, as he wrote, that "there is a way to do justice to our sense that knowledge claims are responsible to reality." In other words, it was possible, as he saw it, to be a pragmatist without jettisoning truth altogether."

A Marriage of Minds

And what's it like. Interviews

"I would say quite seriously, that I am a socialist in economics, a liberal in politics, and a conservative in culture." Daniel Bell