Why the Ashli Babbitt was an insurrectionist and Byrd felt his life threatened doesn't hold water

[Mac1958]

Guess you got nothing huh?

Not for a Trumpster, no.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Wrong.
The whole point of a democratic republic is you have a right to ensure your elected representatives hear your views.

So I then can just walk into the White House and talk to the POTUS any time I like?

 

[BlindBoo]

Pelosi refused to deploy them as Trump offered.

Feel free to post any evidence that Trump ever spoke too or offer national guard or riot police to Speaker Pelosi to be deployed in DC ahead of his 'Pump Up the Insurrectionists" rally on Jan 6th.

 

[Leo123]

The real threat was the torrent of MAGAMOB rioter that would have followed, not Babbit herself per say. She was the tip of the spear or the hole in the Dike and Byrd blunted that spear or plugged that hole that could have become a torrent.

Not really, most of the protestors refused to storm the capitol as Ray Epps (Fed instigator) and Mr Sullivan (alt-left instigator) was urging them to do.

 

[Leo123]

Not for a Trumpster, no.

So you still cannot refute me.

 

[BlindBoo]

Not really, most of the protestors refused to storm the capitol as Ray Epps (Fed instigator) and Mr Sullivan (alt-left instigator) was urging them to do.

I was talking about those who, like Babbit, were there to do just that. Not the multitude of peaceful protesters.

 

[Leo123]

Feel free to post any evidence that Trump ever spoke too or offer national guard or riot police to Speaker Pelosi to be deployed in DC ahead of his 'Pump Up the Insurrectionists" rally on Jan 6th.

"The letter from Republican Reps. Rodney Davis (Ill.), Jim Jordan (Ohio), James Comer (Tenn.) and Devin Nunes (Calif.) suggests Pelosi wielded influence over the security decisions before and during the Jan. 6 attack due to her “enormous institutional responsibilities” and involvement in “all operational decisions made within the House.”

The lawmakers also claim Pelosi may have played a role in delaying the deployment of troops while the pro-Trump mob was inside the building on Jan. 6, saying “it took over an hour” for Sund’s request to be approved “because the [sergeant-at-arms] had to run the request up the chain of command, which undoubtably included you and your designees.”

House Republicans Claim Pelosi May Be Responsible For Delaying National Guard Deployment On Jan. 6

Pelosi's office bucked the letter from House Republicans as a "partisan" attack.

www.forbes.com

 

[Leo123]

I was talking about those who, like Babbit, were there to do just that. Not the multitude of peaceful protesters.

So a few crazies, urged on by Ray Epps and John Sullivan breached the capitol and wondered around, unarmed while capitol police opened doors for them. The exception was Byrd who negligently killed Ashli, the unarmed woman who could have been easily stopped instead of being killed.

 

[Lastamender]

So I then can just walk into the White House and talk to the POTUS any time I like?

He won't understand you, but go right ahead.

 

[BlindBoo]

"The letter from Republican Reps. Rodney Davis (Ill.), Jim Jordan (Ohio), James Comer (Tenn.) and Devin Nunes (Calif.) suggests Pelosi wielded influence over the security decisions before and during the Jan. 6 attack due to her “enormous institutional responsibilities” and involvement in “all operational decisions made within the House.”

The lawmakers also claim Pelosi may have played a role in delaying the deployment of troops while the pro-Trump mob was inside the building on Jan. 6, saying “it took over an hour” for Sund’s request to be approved “because the [sergeant-at-arms] had to run the request up the chain of command, which undoubtably included you and your designees.”

House Republicans Claim Pelosi May Be Responsible For Delaying National Guard Deployment On Jan. 6

Pelosi's office bucked the letter from House Republicans as a "partisan" attack.

www.forbes.com

"The post echoes the sentiment in a Feb. 15 letter to Pelosi from four top GOP House members. It suggested the California Democrat was at least partly at fault, asserting that "the Speaker is responsible for all operational decisions made within the House."

The post is wrong: Security at the 1.5 million-square-foot U.S. Capitol building does not fall solely to the speaker. Though Pelosi does have a role in the hierarchy overseeing security, there is no indication she controls its day-to-day operations.

Responsibility for Capitol security shared
Capitol security is provided by the sergeants-at-arms , who are the chief law enforcement officers for the House and Senate, in coordination with the Capitol Police, a federal law enforcement agency.

The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the speaker of the House, or Pelosi at the time of the attack. The Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader; in the days leading up to and including Jan. 6, that was Kentucky Republican Mitch McConnell.

Security of the Capitol Complex is the direct responsibility of the four-member Capitol Police Board, which includes both sergeants-at-arms, said Jane Campbell, president and CEO of the United States Capitol Historical Society."

No, US Capitol security is not only Pelosi’s responsibility

More than six weeks after supporters of then-President Donald Trump stormed the U.S. Capitol, posts spread on Facebook c

www.politifact.com

 

[Lastamender]

"The post echoes the sentiment in a Feb. 15 letter to Pelosi from four top GOP House members. It suggested the California Democrat was at least partly at fault, asserting that "the Speaker is responsible for all operational decisions made within the House."

The post is wrong: Security at the 1.5 million-square-foot U.S. Capitol building does not fall solely to the speaker. Though Pelosi does have a role in the hierarchy overseeing security, there is no indication she controls its day-to-day operations.

Responsibility for Capitol security shared
Capitol security is provided by the sergeants-at-arms , who are the chief law enforcement officers for the House and Senate, in coordination with the Capitol Police, a federal law enforcement agency.

The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the speaker of the House, or Pelosi at the time of the attack. The Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader; in the days leading up to and including Jan. 6, that was Kentucky Republican Mitch McConnell.

Security of the Capitol Complex is the direct responsibility of the four-member Capitol Police Board, which includes both sergeants-at-arms, said Jane Campbell, president and CEO of the United States Capitol Historical Society."

No, US Capitol security is not only Pelosi’s responsibility

More than six weeks after supporters of then-President Donald Trump stormed the U.S. Capitol, posts spread on Facebook c

www.politifact.com

Those things mean nothing. It is obvious the Feds caused the violence.

 

[g5000]

b/c these same clowns shot a mother holding her baby posing no threat to anyone and nothing was done to the office who did it. nothing will be done to byrd because nothing will be done to byrd.
oh and heres a link just to make the mods happy.

FBI Sniper Won't Be Charged

Idaho Prosecutor Drops Charges Against Agent In Ruby Ridge Case

www.cbsnews.com

If you join in a riot in an attempt to overthrow a duly elected government, and are breaching the last barricade between the mob and members of the House of Representatives, and you ignore several warnings from a cop pointing a gun at you, try not to die with a surprised look on your retarded face.

 

[BlindBoo]

Those things mean nothing. It is obvious the Feds caused the violence.

It was caused by the sore loser Trumpybear. He thinks his Captain Nesmith "Never surrender, never concede"

 

[Lastamender]

It was caused by the sore loser Trumpybear. He thinks his Captain Nesmith "Never surrender, never concede"

Trump was not behind the bullhorn, a Fed was.

 

[Leo123]

"The post echoes the sentiment in a Feb. 15 letter to Pelosi from four top GOP House members. It suggested the California Democrat was at least partly at fault, asserting that "the Speaker is responsible for all operational decisions made within the House."

The post is wrong: Security at the 1.5 million-square-foot U.S. Capitol building does not fall solely to the speaker. Though Pelosi does have a role in the hierarchy overseeing security, there is no indication she controls its day-to-day operations.

Responsibility for Capitol security shared
Capitol security is provided by the sergeants-at-arms , who are the chief law enforcement officers for the House and Senate, in coordination with the Capitol Police, a federal law enforcement agency.

The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the speaker of the House, or Pelosi at the time of the attack. The Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader; in the days leading up to and including Jan. 6, that was Kentucky Republican Mitch McConnell.

Security of the Capitol Complex is the direct responsibility of the four-member Capitol Police Board, which includes both sergeants-at-arms, said Jane Campbell, president and CEO of the United States Capitol Historical Society."

No, US Capitol security is not only Pelosi’s responsibility

More than six weeks after supporters of then-President Donald Trump stormed the U.S. Capitol, posts spread on Facebook c

www.politifact.com

So PolitiFact is supporting Pelosi, gee what a surprise.

 

[BlindBoo]

So PolitiFact is supporting Pelosi, gee what a surprise.

Attacking the source is for losers. Not surprising.

 

[Leo123]

Attacking the source is for losers. Not surprising.

No I check the so-called 'fact checkers'.......PolitiFact is an unreliable source.

Now comes a study from the George Mason University Center for Media and Public Affairs that demonstrates empirically that PolitiFact.org, one of the nation's leading "fact checkers," finds that Republicans are dishonest in their claims three times as often as Democrats. "PolitiFact.com has rated Republican claims as false three times as often as Democratic claims

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2013/05/28/study-finds-fact-checkers-biased-against-republicans

Over the past five years, however, that all changed. Republicans have been fact checked an average of 14.2 more times per year and have been given True or Mostly True ratings just 21.2% of the time they were checked. Democrats, meanwhile, have gotten True or Mostly True grades 40.4% of the time. Democrats have only received Mostly False, False, or Pants on Fire ratings 38.8% of the time, while Republicans have gotten those grades 58.9% of the time.

Almost overnight, fact-checkers from Snopes to FactCheck.org to The New York Times saw it as their mission to prove that Trump and the Republicans who supported him were uniquely, dangerously dishonest.

Definitive Proof That PolitiFact Wisconsin Is Politicizing Truth | MacIver Institute

www.maciverinstitute.com

 

[XponentialChaos]

No they can not shoot.

This guy shot and he wasn’t found guilty of anything.

So you’re wrong.

 

[BlindBoo]

No I check the so-called 'fact checkers'.......PolitiFact is an unreliable source.

Now comes a study from the George Mason University Center for Media and Public Affairs that demonstrates empirically that PolitiFact.org, one of the nation's leading "fact checkers," finds that Republicans are dishonest in their claims three times as often as Democrats. "PolitiFact.com has rated Republican claims as false three times as often as Democratic claims

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2013/05/28/study-finds-fact-checkers-biased-against-republicans

Over the past five years, however, that all changed. Republicans have been fact checked an average of 14.2 more times per year and have been given True or Mostly True ratings just 21.2% of the time they were checked. Democrats, meanwhile, have gotten True or Mostly True grades 40.4% of the time. Democrats have only received Mostly False, False, or Pants on Fire ratings 38.8% of the time, while Republicans have gotten those grades 58.9% of the time.

Almost overnight, fact-checkers from Snopes to FactCheck.org to The New York Times saw it as their mission to prove that Trump and the Republicans who supported him were uniquely, dangerously dishonest.

Definitive Proof That PolitiFact Wisconsin Is Politicizing Truth | MacIver Institute

www.maciverinstitute.com

That has nothing to do with the facts presented in this thread. You presented nothing to back the claim that the Security of the Capitol on Jan was 6th was the responsibility of the Speaker of the House and not the command structure presented in the Politifact page.

 

[Coyote]

Really? Have you asked Troy Smocks?

Jan 6 Political Prisoner Troy Smocks Is a Black Man Originally from the KC Housing Projects - Today He Speaks Out from the DC Gulag and Refutes the Narrative That He is Housed with White Supremacists

Troy Smocks is a 59-year-old black man from Texas being held in the DC “Gitmo” with other defendants for the events that unfolded at the Capitol on January 6. He is incarcerated with a diverse group of Trump supporters who are white, black, Hispanic, Arab, Christian, Jewish, straight, and...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

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Are those Floyd rioters still jailed “political prisoners” in a Gulag?