Why The NIST Report on WTC 7 is Unscientific and False

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEcG3zC9w7g]Why The NIST Report on WTC 7 is Unscientific and False - YouTube[/ame]

 

[member]

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would you agree that...back in the 90's, in A cave-like office somewhere....






. . .the idea of crashing commercial jets into u.s. buildings was an idea bourne out of the minds of already known radical muslims ? and not a concoction "dreampt-up"
by joe jew, ira israeli, moe mossad, barbara bush, senator sam, and: _______ whoever else you can think of to blame it on ?








...try not to gag on one...

 

[Mad Scientist]

would you agree that...back in the 90's, in A cave-like office somewhere....

. . .the idea of crashing commercial jets into u.s. buildings was an idea bourne out of the minds of already known radical muslims ? and not a concoction "dreampt-up"
by joe jew, ira israeli, moe mossad, barbara bush, senator sam, and: _______ whoever else you can think of to blame it on ?

Good job Member! We need you to spread the word that the Economy is Improving too.

 

[eots]

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[URL=http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/aliage75/media/PEOPLE%20-%20NO%20smilies/beard3_zps3b5905ab.jpg.html]"Why The NIST Report on WTC 7 is Unscientific and False" - YouTube[/url]

would you agree that...back in the 90's, in A cave-like office somewhere....






. . .the idea of crashing commercial jets into u.s. buildings was an idea bourne out of the minds of already known radical muslims ? and not a concoction "dreampt-up"
by joe jew, ira israeli, moe mossad, barbara bush, senator sam, and: _______ whoever else you can think of to blame it on ?








...try not to gag on one...

It is not very likely it occurred as reported...however this is irrelevant physics and the collapse of wtc 7

 

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1UTlQywSbU]Les Young -- High-rise Architect - 9/11 Expert Testimony.mp4 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[SteadyMercury]

Oh to live in the bizarre paranoid conspiracy world where truth consists of whatever youtube videos you can dig up to regurgitate.

 

[daws101]

Les Young -- High-rise Architect - 9/11 Expert Testimony.mp4 - YouTube

thats howie mandel! !

 

[eots]

Oh to live in the bizarre paranoid conspiracy world where truth consists of whatever youtube videos you can dig up to regurgitate.

So you Actually believe that these top level engineers and veterans involved in some of the nations highest levels of research and national security honored by country and peers to be bizarre paranoid conspiracy theorist and there statements and petitions to be "whatever youtube videos you can dig up to regurgitate"...that quite a theory...what a strange world you must live in

 

[eots]

Les Young -- High-rise Architect - 9/11 Expert Testimony.mp4 - YouTube

thats howie mandel! !

wow you sure debwunk this expert..you said he looked like Howie Mandel....LOSER

 

[SteadyMercury]

So you Actually believe that these top level engineers and veterans involved in some of the nations highest levels of research and national security honored by country and peers to be bizarre paranoid conspiracy theorist and there statements and petitions to be "whatever youtube videos you can dig up to regurgitate"...that quite a theory...what a strange world you must live in

Yes.

There are thousands of people who can throw around engineering credentials, it doesn't take much to dig up a few nutballs regardless of what certs they throw around. If creds being weight to an opinion then you'd be easily convinced by someone who discounted your conspiracy theory right? Nah, it doesn't go two ways, the only good experts are the ones you find who's opinion you like right? In that case their resume carry absolute rule, but if they aren't with your conclusion then it is dismissed with a wave of the hand.

 

[eots]

So you Actually believe that these top level engineers and veterans involved in some of the nations highest levels of research and national security honored by country and peers to be bizarre paranoid conspiracy theorist and there statements and petitions to be "whatever youtube videos you can dig up to regurgitate"...that quite a theory...what a strange world you must live in

Yes.

There are thousands of people who can throw around engineering credentials, it doesn't take much to dig up a few nutballs regardless of what certs they throw around. If creds being weight to an opinion then you'd be easily convinced by someone who discounted your conspiracy theory right? Nah, it doesn't go two ways, the only good experts are the ones you find who's opinion you like right? In that case their resume carry absolute rule, but if they aren't with your conclusion then it is dismissed with a wave of the hand.

So in your opinion these men are nutballs ??


Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech). Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology. 22-year Air Force career. Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.

Member: Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth Association Statement:

"Scholars and professionals with various kinds of expertise---including architects, engineers, firefighters, intelligence officers, lawyers, medical professionals, military officers, philosophers, religious leaders, physical scientists, and pilots---have spoken out about radical discrepancies between the official account of the 9/11 attacks and what they, as independent researchers, have learned.

They have established beyond any reasonable doubt that the official account of 9/11 is false and that, therefore, the official “investigations” have really been cover-up operations.



Dwain Deets, MS Physics, MS Eng – Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) (1986). Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000. Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology. 37 year NASA career.

Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:
"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center]

 

[Steven_R]

Who rigged the explosives? Ninjas? Go take a look at pictures of buildings being explosively demolished and you see wiring everywhere. Where was all that wiring in the Trade Towers? Now this is where someone says "it was in the walls where no one could see it." Uh-huh, so when did it get put in the walls? When Bob left his cubicle to get a refill in his coffee our Ninja Demo Team snuck in, drilled a hole in the wall, rigged the explosives, and repaired the wall so that no one knew any better, clearly. But they did it at night, right? So then the cleaning crews would have noticed, yet none of them did.

 

[Gardener]

Al Qaeda supports this thread.

They are not guilty!!!!!!!










I'd like to see a list of engineering and scientific institutions who doubt the accuracy of the official explanations for the 9-11 collapses.

 

[eots]

Who rigged the explosives? Ninjas? Go take a look at pictures of buildings being explosively demolished and you see wiring everywhere. Where was all that wiring in the Trade Towers? Now this is where someone says "it was in the walls where no one could see it." Uh-huh, so when did it get put in the walls? When Bob left his cubicle to get a refill in his coffee our Ninja Demo Team snuck in, drilled a hole in the wall, rigged the explosives, and repaired the wall so that no one knew any better, clearly. But they did it at night, right? So then the cleaning crews would have noticed, yet none of them did.

strawman much...there would of been thousands of miles of wiring and every kind of electronics imaginable in the trade centers ..wireless detonators have existed for many many years...physics cares not about your little stories of hard you think it would be to covertly demolish a building

 

[Gardener]

Not one engineering or other scientific institution on Earth opposes the official findings of the collapses.

Not one. That's because TRUE scientists and engineers base their findings on facts and not ideology.

 

[SteadyMercury]

So in your opinion these men are nutballs ??

Again you are missing the point. You point at people with credentials that impress who you agree with and hail them as impossibly perfect in opinion because of a resume. OMG 22 year Air Force career! Taught math! Wow!

However if a resume is all it takes to make weight of opinion, you'd surely be easily swayed by "experts" who formed the opposite opinion right? Of course not! 22 years in the Air Force is only important if they agree with you. That is what is nonsensical about your insane rantings, the selective application of demigod status to people with a career.

Now go find us some more youtube videos for your thesis.

 

[eots]

So in your opinion these men are nutballs ??

Again you are missing the point. You point at people with credentials that impress who you agree with and hail them as impossibly perfect in opinion because of a resume. OMG 22 year Air Force career! Taught math! Wow!

However if a resume is all it takes to make weight of opinion, you'd surely be easily swayed by "experts" who formed the opposite opinion right? Of course not! 22 years in the Air Force is only important if they agree with you. That is what is nonsensical about your insane rantings, the selective application of demigod status to people with a career.

Now go find us some more youtube videos for your thesis.

He headed the aerospace program and flew 100 combat missons

 

[Gardener]

The professional opinions of dentists, pilots, janitors, and car salesmen regarding the 9-11 collapses are pretty much irrelevant.

 

[eots]

Not one engineering or other scientific institution on Earth opposes the official findings of the collapses.

Not one. That's because TRUE scientists and engineers base their findings on facts and not ideology.

so you are saying these men of impeccable creditably and peer and presidential honors in science many of whom are member of these institutions are not ..real scientist..how does that make any sense ?

 

[Gardener]

Not one engineering or other scientific institution on Earth opposes the official findings of the collapses.

Not one. That's because TRUE scientists and engineers base their findings on facts and not ideology.

so you are saying these men of impeccable creditably and peer and presidential honors in science many of whom are member of these institutions are not ..real scientist..how does that make any sense ?

see my above comments.

the only views that count are those of major building architects and structural engineers.

these are the guys most qualified to know why such buildings would and would not collapse.

you get me 10 PhD level structural engineers and highrise architects who say the WTC towers would not have collapsed that way simply due to fire damage, structural impact damage, weakened steel, and gravity, and I will pay attention to your silly ideas.