Lucy Hamilton
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You concerned about Islamist all the sudden? Imagine that.Why didn't the Europeans stay out of Africa and the Middle East? Hopefully you know that it was the international community that asked the United States to arbitrate the issues between British Petroleum and Iran way back when.Conversely the same could be stated about America, if America minded it's own business and stopped it's obsessive Invading/Bombing/Coup By Proxy Wars and just stayed at home and took care of it's own and instead put 10,000 troops on America's OWN borders to stop the Mexican's, Central Americans etc walking into America.
The situation is America seems addicted to interfering in Regional Conflicts that it has only a vague comprehension about and as the below list illustrates you have had VERY little success in your adventures and in the majority of situations have made things worse than they were before and this is both Republican AND Democrat Administrations. ALL you have achieved in the past few days at this MOMENT is amazingly uniting Iran AND Iraq in their hatred of America The Invading Occupying Entity, Iraq does NOT want you squatting in their Sovereign nation ANYMORE they want you OUT and you REFUSE to respect that and incredibly are now threatening them with sanctions and so when Americans get slaughtered in some suicide bombs and/or some other situation, well you should know WHY that has happened because You Reap What You Sow. The fundamental problem with the American Psyche is you have NO self-reflection and because of that you continue your out of control Addiction To Mayhem with the total inability to learn from your very very many mistakes eg. the last time you actually WON a conflict was when? You certainly did NOT win in any the below adventures:
You WITHOUT THOUGHT across DECADES have been sending your young soldiers to fight and die in multiple UNWINNABLE conflicts that in the final analysis have NOTHING to do with you, and yet here you are AGAIN getting EXCITED at the possibility of MORE American blood and MORE American's returning home as bones to turn to dust in the ground:
Excerpt from Hoover Institute;
The interests that have long kept the United States involved in the Middle East are fairly clear. Coming out of World War II, American strategists resolved that the United States must prevent any hostile force from dominating a region of critical geopolitical or geo-economic significance. The Middle East, with its vast oil reserves, certainly fit that description. True, America never got a particularly large portion of its oil from Middle Eastern sources. But its allies did: “The Marshall Plan for Europe,” noted Truman’s first Secretary of Defense, James Forrestal, “could not succeed without access to the Middle East oil.” Moreover, the fact that oil was traded on a global market meant that a disruption of price or supply in one region would cause disruption on a far larger scale.
At present, the United States is again becoming a net energy exporter and a swing producer in the global oil market. Yet so long as the countries of the Middle East sit atop huge energy reserves that confer great wealth and power on whoever controls it, the strategic importance of the Middle East—and the imperative of keeping it out of hostile hands—will remain.
Other issues have also kept the United States engaged. Since the 1970s, America has had a critical interest in preventing or combating international terrorism, much of which emerges from the Middle East. American policymakers have been properly concerned with confronting aggression against friendly nations and preventing the spread of weapons of mass destruction to rogue states or non-state actors. Then there is the American interest in promoting peace, democracy, and human rights in the Middle East—one that has never been as important as the other U.S. interests, that has affected how even the most cynical, “realist” administrations have approached the region.
The interests that have long kept the United States involved in the Middle East are fairly clear. Coming out of World War II, American strategists resolved that the United States must prevent any hostile force from dominating a region of critical geopolitical or geo-economic significance. The Middle East, with its vast oil reserves, certainly fit that description. True, America never got a particularly large portion of its oil from Middle Eastern sources. But its allies did: “The Marshall Plan for Europe,” noted Truman’s first Secretary of Defense, James Forrestal, “could not succeed without access to the Middle East oil.” Moreover, the fact that oil was traded on a global market meant that a disruption of price or supply in one region would cause disruption on a far larger scale.
At present, the United States is again becoming a net energy exporter and a swing producer in the global oil market. Yet so long as the countries of the Middle East sit atop huge energy reserves that confer great wealth and power on whoever controls it, the strategic importance of the Middle East—and the imperative of keeping it out of hostile hands—will remain.
Other issues have also kept the United States engaged. Since the 1970s, America has had a critical interest in preventing or combating international terrorism, much of which emerges from the Middle East. American policymakers have been properly concerned with confronting aggression against friendly nations and preventing the spread of weapons of mass destruction to rogue states or non-state actors. Then there is the American interest in promoting peace, democracy, and human rights in the Middle East—one that has never been as important as the other U.S. interests, that has affected how even the most cynical, “realist” administrations have approached the region.
I did comment that the 1953 Coup by Proxy in Iran was done by the CIA and MI6.
"Then there is the American interest in promoting peace, democracy, and human rights in the Middle East—"
This would be Comedy Gold if it was not so completely perverted, because the one writing the article it comes from LITERALLY is being SERIOUS about writing such a line of 100% HORSECRAP. America (and also the British) is promoting peace and democracy how? Bombs and Arms Exports? America (and also the British) promotes human rights in the Middle East by what getting on it's knees to suck Saudi dick while The House of Saud chop peoples heads off in public....what about Bahrain where are America and the British on the um human rights thing in Bahrain where the ENTIRE opposition are either in dungeons or have had to flee to Safe Nations to escape the Bahrain Dictatorship.
Also are you aware that in Kenya on Sunday night the Islamists killed an American soldier and two defence contractors, you KNOW that was the ORIGINAL EXCUSE for assassinating that Iranian General that an American defence contractor was killed in the attempted siege.
Three Americans killed in Kenya terror attack
Kenya terror attack: Three Americans killed by Al-Shabaab - CNNPolitics
So WHY isn't America IMMEDIATELY threatening Kenya with impending invasion and bombing attack and the usual? Hmmm, I suppose American troops and defence contractors being killed by Islamists in Kenya does not matter.
History of a portion of Iran's problems stemming from its own actions.
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB476/docs/Doc 1 (c) - Battle for Iran - 2014 release - Appendixes.pdf
"You concerned about Islamist all the sudden? Imagine that."
I have always been Anti-Islamist, it's something I have been consistent about since I joined this forum, I have also attempted to differentiate between Muslims and Radical Muslims between Islam and Radical Islam. IF The Donald gets into a war with Iran he will NOT be re-elected as part of his 2016 Campaign was to REMOVE America from all these pointless wars in the Middle East, this far he is America's ONLY President in the last 20 years who has NOT actively participated in Conflict in the Middle East and North Africa (Clinton, GWB and Obama ALL did)
Would you answer why Washington DC is NOT threatening to invade and bomb Kenya considering three Americans, a soldier and two defence contractor have been killed there?
the three americans killed in KENYA ---were murdered by ALSHABAAB----the
Somali islamist terrorist gang. The place to invade would be Somalia---
not Kenya. Give it time
You are correct, but as they also are operating in Kenya and that's where they did that killing then Kenya is also the problem. In the ideal world ALL of them would be rounded up and put in ONE spot and just incinerated, but sadly we are not in an ideal world.
