Why was Hitler's Workers' Party called Right?

[rupol2000]

Finally I solved this paradox.

Hitler's "socialism" was a fiction. The First International was indeed right-wing, it was progressivism. The proletarians of the world united in the fight against corporations and sought ownership of the means of production.

The swastika was one of the symbols of this struggle. The proletariat was really right.
The swastika came from America in the roaring 20s, it had nothing to do with pan-Germanism and Prussianism. Apparently, Hitler was just a front for the behind-the-scenes struggle between the Prussians and the Americans.



The left wing of the Workers' Party was the opposite side. They defended the Marxist model, which was inherited from Von Bismarck's Junker socialism.

Apparently throughout WW2 there was a struggle and there was no single German National Socialism. Power was taken alternately by right and left. All the events of the war depended on which wing was in the Reichstag at the current moment.

 

[Muhammed]

Why was Hitler's Workers' Party called Right?​

It wasn't. That came much later when dishonest Democratic party of slavery operatives gaslighted their extraordinarily stupid dupes into believing it.

The Nazi's are and were always a hardcore leftist party.

The only people who believe the Nazi's are right wing are very low IQ and therefore very easily brainwashed idiots.

 

[Oddball]

Finally I solved this paradox.

Hitler's "socialism" was a fiction. The First International was indeed right-wing, it was progressivism. The proletarians of the world united in the fight against corporations and sought ownership of the means of production.

The swastika was one of the symbols of this struggle. The proletariat was really right.
The swastika came from America in the roaring 20s, it had nothing to do with pan-Germanism and Prussianism. Apparently, Hitler was just a front for the behind-the-scenes struggle between the Prussians and the Americans.



The left wing of the Workers' Party was the opposite side. They defended the Marxist model, which was inherited from Von Bismarck's Junker socialism.

Apparently throughout WW2 there was a struggle and there was no single German National Socialism. Power was taken alternately by right and left. All the events of the war depended on which wing was in the Reichstag at the current moment.

 

[rupol2000]

Why was Hitler's Workers' Party called Right?​

It wasn't. That came much later when dishonest Democratic party of slavery operatives gaslighted their extraordinarily stupid dupes into believing it.

The Nazi's are and were always a hardcore leftist party.

The only people who believe the Nazi's are right wing are very low IQ and therefore very easily brainwashed idiots.

Yes, the Nazis were left-wing Prussians, the heirs of Wilhelm and Bismarck, close to the Marxists.

But Hitler's rhetoric was right-wing, and this symbolism was borrowed from the right-wing 1st International anarchists. Hence the name of the party and the symbol of the swastika.

 

[Oddball]

Yes, the Nazis were left-wing Prussians, the heirs of Wilhelm and Bismarck, close to the Marxists.

But Hitler's rhetoric was right-wing, and this symbolism was borrowed from the right-wing 1st International anarchists. Hence the name of the party and the symbol of the swastika.

That the Nazis were a smidgen to the right of the Marxists still leaves them firmly on the left.

 

[dudmuck]

Why was Hitler's Workers' Party called Right?​

It wasn't. That came much later when dishonest Democratic party of slavery operatives gaslighted their extraordinarily stupid dupes into believing it.

The Nazi's are and were always a hardcore leftist party.

The only people who believe the Nazi's are right wing are very low IQ and therefore very easily brainwashed idiots.

tell us then how much Hilter loved communism.

 

[rupol2000]

They were initially generally allies of the Marxists. 2WW began with the fact that the Stalinists and the Nazis jointly ruined Poland.

But then Hitler suddenly turned his policy around. Apparently around the 41st there was a right coup. Nobody expected an attack on the USSR.
And then, in 43-44, the Prussians seized power again.

 

[rupol2000]

tell us then how much Hilter loved communism.

At least Goebbels and the Strassers were crazy about communism, and the entire left wing voted for communism in Prussian wrapping. In fact, the left wing was Marxists. They did not have anything that the communists did not have except open pan-Germanism.

 

[Leo123]

The Nazis were nationalists headed by a dictator bent on expanding Germany through the taking of land through aggression and war.

 

[whitehall]

Actually the acronym Nazi (nationalist socialist) is closer to today's democrat party.

 

[rupol2000]

Hitler's ideology undoubtedly had right-wing ideas.
The book burning actions were absolutely right - they had screem about aristocratism of spirit and high etics when did it.
The ban on hunting is the right idea.
The Aryan bull revival project is a right idea.
Romantic ideals are the right idea, it arisen around the times of the Spring of Nations.
Vegetarianism is the right idea.
The Wunderwaffe is the right idea and it came straight from America in the 20s with the swastika.
The praise of the Aryan culture is an absolutely right idea.

The right ideas of the Right Way of American individualism and the superhero are recorded 4,000 years ago in the Aryan Vedas.

Therefore, to say that there was nothing right is stupid. The right is not only economics.

It was a mix of ideas and 2 warring wings.

Obviously we don't know much.

 

[rupol2000]

Actually the acronym Nazi (nationalist socialist) is closer to today's democrat party.

Yes, but the party was called the National Socialist Workers' Party, and Hitler actively criticized Marxism.
He called the Marxists swindlers and defended private property.
All right-wing parties at that time were workers' parties.

 

[whitehall]

Yes, but the party was called the National Socialist Workers' Party, and Hitler actively criticized Marxism.
He called the Marxists swindlers and defended private property.
All right-wing parties at that time were workers' parties.

Hitler and Stalin were birds of a feather. They were allies during the 30's. Stalin imprisoned Jews and so did Hitler. Stalin was a totalitarian monster and so was Hitler. Both were unstable and sooner or later one would break the treaty.

 

[Votto]

Yes, the Nazis were left-wing Prussians, the heirs of Wilhelm and Bismarck, close to the Marxists.

But Hitler's rhetoric was right-wing, and this symbolism was borrowed from the right-wing 1st International anarchists. Hence the name of the party and the symbol of the swastika.

We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions

-Hitler

 

[rupol2000]

We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions

-Hitler

Yes, they called it right-wing socialism, anarchism and Proudhonism. Exactly what started the 1st International.

 

[ralfy]

Like socialists, they wanted control of businesses by the state. But unlike socialists, the state was controlled by individuals working with the military, which made them fascists, and hence right-wing.

 

[rupol2000]

Like socialists, they wanted control of businesses by the state. But unlike socialists, the state was controlled by individuals working with the military, which made them fascists, and hence right-wing.

Fascism is a leftist force, its basis is reliance on corporations, corporatism. Corporativists generally reject individualism.

 

[SavannahMann]

They were initially generally allies of the Marxists. 2WW began with the fact that the Stalinists and the Nazis jointly ruined Poland.

But then Hitler suddenly turned his policy around. Apparently around the 41st there was a right coup. Nobody expected an attack on the USSR.
And then, in 43-44, the Prussians seized power again.

Have you never read Mein Kampf? The book written a decade before the war was a tirade against Jews and their creation Communism. Karl Marx was a Jew after all. The Soviets were defined as the enemy many years before Poland. The Molotov Ribbentrop agreement was a move by both to benefit themselves. For Stalin it gave him time to modernize the Army and consolidate his position. For Hitler it removed the threat of a two front war while he took over Western Europe.

Both thought they had outsmarted the other sides foolish leadership. Hell. Half the delay in Stalin deciding what to do after Hitler invaded is because he couldn’t figure out how to present it to the people.

Then as now the ideal of the Soviets is a perfect scientific system. If something fails it is the people entrusted to execute the system. Not the system that is at fault. That goes on today. It wasn’t Putin’s fault that the invasion of Ukraine has failed thus far. It was a perfect plan executed poorly by subordinates.

The problem is that people are pushing the fiction that the Extreme Right is Libertarian. Not Fascist. This is a lie. Libertarian just doesn’t work in anything over a few thousand people. Max. Just as Communism doesn’t work. The perfect Libertarian society would be Anarchy. No laws. Just take care of yourself. A step back from the extreme is the Greek City States. Small communities and cities. Able to be conquered with ease by a larger group.

However in order to make those fringe ideals seem more mainstream they have to reorient the political spectrum. Going Right is closer to more freedom. However the extremes are never where freedom is found.

How do you know this is true? The actions of those who claim this is a lie proclaim it. They do not denounce Texas or Florida for restricting freedoms. They don’t proclaim that DeSantis is a horrible Leftist for passing laws that exempt himself from the Sunshine laws. They don’t denounce Florida for banning books. They don’t denounce anything that the “Right” does. It is all good and necessary to stop and defeat the Leftists.

This Rhetoric is what Hitler told the Germans. It is what all the RW Dictators have said in history. Those who believe it don’t want to believe they are supporting dangerous RW extremism. They want to believe they are good people doing the right things.

 

[ralfy]

Fascism is a leftist force, its basis is reliance on corporations, corporatism. Corporativists generally reject individualism.

Some right-wingers can reject individualism in the name of tradition, heritage, authority, and even race. Meanwhile, some left-wingers can reject corporations and even corporatism while embracing indvidualism.

 

[Hector12]

In Mein Kampf Hitler condemns Marxists and Social Democrats. he does not condemn conservatives and businessmen, like a leftist would.

Hitler's use of the word "Socialist" in the name of his political party was a cynical marketing ploy. He knew that most German workers were attracted to socialism, and he wanted to win them over. Joseph Goebbels assured German businessmen that the Nazis would not confiscate their property.