Why Wasn't This Done For The Liberian With Ebola?

[Pop23]

The limited supplies should be saved for US citizens.

It's really quite simple

 

[depotoo]

Why didn't the others get a transfusion while in Liberia? Seems it would have been easiest there. There is a reason.

 

[depotoo]

Today they are reporting more zmapp will be available in Nov.

 

[depotoo]

Blood type? Refusal?

"The American journalist being treated in Nebraska for Ebola will receive a blood transfusion from a fellow Ebola survivor.

Ashoka Mukpo, 33, who was working in Liberia as a freelance photographer for NBC News, is scheduled to receive a blood transfusion Wednesday from Dr. Kent Brantly."

American journalist to receive blood transfusion from Ebola survivor Fox News

Oooh oooh let me guess let me guess?

Racism?

I'm not one to call racism but you have to ask why he didn't get the blood of one of the survivors. You don't find it odd? There is more than one survivor somebody's blood might have been a match.

Type

 

[Mojo2]

Ebola patient Thomas Duncan dies in Dallas hospital
Author: The Associated Press
Matt Aufdenspring, Web Managing Editor, Click2Houston.com
Published On: 1 h Updated 15 m

Thomas Eric Duncan

DALLAS, Texas -
The first Ebola patient diagnosed in the United States died Wednesday morning in a Dallas hospital Wednesday, a hospital spokesman said.

Thomas Eric Duncan was pronounced dead at 7:51 a.m. at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas, where he was admitted Sept. 28 and has been kept in isolation, according to spokesman Wendell Watson.

Duncan's condition was changed on Saturday from serious to critical.

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The hospital released a statement which read, "It is with profound sadness and heartfelt disappointment that we must inform you of the death of Thomas Eric Duncan this morning at 7:51 am. Mr. Duncan succumbed to an insidious disease, Ebola. He fought courageously in this battle. Our professionals, the doctors and nurses in the unit, as well as the entire Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas community, are also grieving his passing. We have offered the family our support and condolences at this difficult time, hospital officials said."

Duncan carried the deadly virus with him from his home in Liberia, though he showed no symptoms when he left for the United States. He arrived in Dallas Sept. 20 and fell ill several days later. His condition was downgraded during the weekend from serious to critical.

Others in Dallas still are being monitored as health officials try to contain the virus that has ravaged West Africa, with more than 3,400 people reported dead. They also are trying to tamp down anxiety among residents frightened of contracting Ebola, though the disease can be spread only through direct contact with the bodily fluids of an already sick person.

Health officials have identified 10 people, including seven health workers, who had direct contact with Duncan while he was contagious. Another 38 people also may have come into contact with him. The four people living in the northeast Dallas apartment where Duncan stayed have been isolated in a private residence.

"The past week has been an enormous test of our health system, but for one family it has been far more personal ... They have our sincere condolences, and we are keeping them in our thoughts, "Dr. David Lakey, commissioner of the Texas Department of State Health Services, said in statement. "We'll continue every effort to contain the spread of the virus and protect people from this threat."

Officials have said everyone who potentially had contact with Duncan is being monitored for 21 days, the normal incubation period for the disease.

Duncan passed an airport health screening in Liberia, where doctors measured his temperature as normal and found no signs of Ebola symptoms. But a few days after he arrived, he began to have a fever, headache and abdominal pain.

He went to the emergency room of Texas Health Presbyterian in Dallas on Sept. 24, but was sent home. By Sept. 28, his condition had worsened and an ambulance took him back to the hospital where he stayed in isolation.

The hospital has changed its explanation several times about when Duncan arrived and what he said about his travel history. It has acknowledged that Duncan told them on his first visit that he came from West Africa.

The CDC issued guidance for safe handling of human remains of Ebola patients in U.S. hospitals and mortuaries.

Those guidelines include:

• Only personnel trained in handling infected human remains, and wearing PPE, should touch, or move, any Ebola-infected remains.
• Handling of human remains should be kept to a minimum.
• Autopsies on patients who die of Ebola should be avoided. If an autopsy is necessary, the state health department and CDC should be consulted regarding additional precautions.

To read more guidelines, click here.

Ebola patient Thomas Duncan dies in Dallas hospital News - Home

 

[Marianne]

The limited supplies should be saved for US citizens.

It's really quite simple

Yes that's true but if he survives and blood transfusions help, it would be in the best interest of American citizens to have the blood of survivors from all blood types with the antibodies for Ebola in it. From a handful of people there might be a way to increase the change of beating the disease. It may be months before the drug that worked for the original survivors can be produced again.

 

[depotoo]

He died and it was said he was offered all available options there were. It was up to he and his family which he accepted. Unfortunately all the zmapp was sent to Africa. The other treatment Sacra received is a hard treatment for what his condition was, from what I read and he opted for the drug put out by Chimerex.

The limited supplies should be saved for US citizens.

It's really quite simple

Yes that's true but if he survives and blood transfusions help, it would be in the best interest of American citizens to have the blood of survivors from all blood types with the antibodies for Ebola in it. From a handful of people there might be a way to increase the change of beating the disease. It may be months before the drug that worked for the original survivors can be produced again.

 

[koshergrl]

"The American journalist being treated in Nebraska for Ebola will receive a blood transfusion from a fellow Ebola survivor.

Ashoka Mukpo, 33, who was working in Liberia as a freelance photographer for NBC News, is scheduled to receive a blood transfusion Wednesday from Dr. Kent Brantly."

American journalist to receive blood transfusion from Ebola survivor Fox News

Oooh oooh let me guess let me guess?

Racism?

I was going to say, death panels at work!

 

[Ravi]

It does for me, here is the pertinent info from it-
WHO endorses blood transfusions to combat Ebola, despite skepticism
Health officials acknowledged that their support for blood transfusions was motivated by emotion as well as by science. Limited quantities of a tested vaccine will not be available until November at the earliest, and stocks of experimental drugs such as ZMapp may not be ready until next year.

"One of the things driving fear and panic in communities ... is the belief that there is no treatment for Ebola virus disease," said Marie-Paule Kieny, an assistant director-general at the United Nations' health agency. "We have to change the sense that there is no hope."

But to others, the move looked more like an act of desperation than a decision based on clinical evidence.

"It's an unproven therapy," said Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist and professor at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. "It ought to be evaluated critically before we start investing huge amounts of money".

Link doesn't work.

But it apparently cured one person. In this experimental stage, it would seem prudent to try all remedies.

 

[depotoo]

Dallas Ebola Patient Not Receiving Experimental Treatment Right Now CDC Says
There is a second experimental option available for Duncan, but it "can be difficult to use and can make someone sicker initially," CDC Director Tom Frieden said on Sunday. Therefore, it's up to Duncan, his family and his treating physician whether to use this treatment, Frieden said.
.....,
he opted not to take the tkm-ebola , and the fda then gave an emergency approval for the chimerex, which had never even been tested on ebola before, which he chose to try

 

[Ravi]

Whitey gets da blood

Nope, read the articles. At least you weren't afraid to say what I believe ravi was alluding to. Ravi, forgive me if I am wrong, but not also asking why Brantly hadn't gotten a transfusion until I brought it up akes me think you may have been trying to go where Jesse Jackson started to go but then, fortunately pulled back from.

No, it just struck me as curious. I haven't been following the cases with the mission workers as closely as they seemed to be diagnosed and treated immediately. It would seem that Duncan, who was much sicker, should have had all attempts made. Doesn't matter what color he is, and if Jackson is going there he's an idiot (well, he is an idiot anyway).

Point being if a disease is to be combated then all efforts should be made to combat it. That would benefit everyone in the long run.

 

[Ravi]

"The American journalist being treated in Nebraska for Ebola will receive a blood transfusion from a fellow Ebola survivor.

Ashoka Mukpo, 33, who was working in Liberia as a freelance photographer for NBC News, is scheduled to receive a blood transfusion Wednesday from Dr. Kent Brantly."

American journalist to receive blood transfusion from Ebola survivor Fox News

Oooh oooh let me guess let me guess?

Racism?

I'm not one to call racism but you have to ask why he didn't get the blood of one of the survivors. You don't find it odd? There is more than one survivor somebody's blood might have been a match.

I don't think it's racism. It would be really stupid to pass up a chance to cure someone and future someones because of racism. Even hard core racists aren't that stupid.

 

[koshergrl]

It does for me, here is the pertinent info from it-
WHO endorses blood transfusions to combat Ebola, despite skepticism
Health officials acknowledged that their support for blood transfusions was motivated by emotion as well as by science. Limited quantities of a tested vaccine will not be available until November at the earliest, and stocks of experimental drugs such as ZMapp may not be ready until next year.

"One of the things driving fear and panic in communities ... is the belief that there is no treatment for Ebola virus disease," said Marie-Paule Kieny, an assistant director-general at the United Nations' health agency. "We have to change the sense that there is no hope."

But to others, the move looked more like an act of desperation than a decision based on clinical evidence.

"It's an unproven therapy," said Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist and professor at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. "It ought to be evaluated critically before we start investing huge amounts of money".

Link doesn't work.

But it apparently cured one person. In this experimental stage, it would seem prudent to try all remedies.

Yes well, you're an idiot. It isn't prudent to try all remedies, as sometimes those remedies are experimental and can kill the subject.

The best way to combat this disease is to close borders and to instantly quarantine anyone who comes into contact with an ebola sufferer.

But that's not going to happen. I hope you don't get it. Really. And I REALLY hope I don't get it. I'm my kids' sole support.

 

[Ravi]

The limited supplies should be saved for US citizens.

It's really quite simple

That makes no sense, either. You can't find a cure for a disease if you only treat those you'd rather treat. Hopefully, you aren't in the medical field.

 

[PredFan]

"The American journalist being treated in Nebraska for Ebola will receive a blood transfusion from a fellow Ebola survivor.

Ashoka Mukpo, 33, who was working in Liberia as a freelance photographer for NBC News, is scheduled to receive a blood transfusion Wednesday from Dr. Kent Brantly."

American journalist to receive blood transfusion from Ebola survivor Fox News

Oooh oooh let me guess let me guess?

Racism?

I'm not one to call racism but you have to ask why he didn't get the blood of one of the survivors. You don't find it odd? There is more than one survivor somebody's blood might have been a match.

Who knows why. Only the doctors can explain it. There probably is a good reason.

 

[Ravi]

Why didn't the others get a transfusion while in Liberia? Seems it would have been easiest there. There is a reason.

He hadn't come down with symptoms while he was there so how would that have worked?

Not to mention the medical care there is almost non-existent.

 

[koshergrl]

"The American journalist being treated in Nebraska for Ebola will receive a blood transfusion from a fellow Ebola survivor.

Ashoka Mukpo, 33, who was working in Liberia as a freelance photographer for NBC News, is scheduled to receive a blood transfusion Wednesday from Dr. Kent Brantly."

American journalist to receive blood transfusion from Ebola survivor Fox News

Oooh oooh let me guess let me guess?

Racism?

I'm not one to call racism but you have to ask why he didn't get the blood of one of the survivors. You don't find it odd? There is more than one survivor somebody's blood might have been a match.

I don't think it's racism. It would be really stupid to pass up a chance to cure someone and future someones because of racism. Even hard core racists aren't that stupid.

Hard core racists are historically idiotic, just look at Democrats and the CDC.

Liberians are terrified of hospitals and treatments because in ebola land, if you're getting treatment, you're probably going to die. Likewise, the abortion clinics we have running over there are death machines for the poor women we encourage to visit. Those women go in, get their uteruses scraped, then go home and die. No wonder they're scared to death of the CDC and American medical professionals. I don't blame them.

 

[Ravi]

It does for me, here is the pertinent info from it-
WHO endorses blood transfusions to combat Ebola, despite skepticism
Health officials acknowledged that their support for blood transfusions was motivated by emotion as well as by science. Limited quantities of a tested vaccine will not be available until November at the earliest, and stocks of experimental drugs such as ZMapp may not be ready until next year.

"One of the things driving fear and panic in communities ... is the belief that there is no treatment for Ebola virus disease," said Marie-Paule Kieny, an assistant director-general at the United Nations' health agency. "We have to change the sense that there is no hope."

But to others, the move looked more like an act of desperation than a decision based on clinical evidence.

"It's an unproven therapy," said Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist and professor at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. "It ought to be evaluated critically before we start investing huge amounts of money".

Link doesn't work.

But it apparently cured one person. In this experimental stage, it would seem prudent to try all remedies.

Yes well, you're an idiot. It isn't prudent to try all remedies, as sometimes those remedies are experimental and can kill the subject.

The best way to combat this disease is to close borders and to instantly quarantine anyone who comes into contact with an ebola sufferer.

But that's not going to happen. I hope you don't get it. Really. And I REALLY hope I don't get it. I'm my kids' sole support.

lol, you can't kill someone twice, moron.

 

[Katzndogz]

"The American journalist being treated in Nebraska for Ebola will receive a blood transfusion from a fellow Ebola survivor.

Ashoka Mukpo, 33, who was working in Liberia as a freelance photographer for NBC News, is scheduled to receive a blood transfusion Wednesday from Dr. Kent Brantly."

American journalist to receive blood transfusion from Ebola survivor Fox News

Oooh oooh let me guess let me guess?

Racism?

I'm not one to call racism but you have to ask why he didn't get the blood of one of the survivors. You don't find it odd? There is more than one survivor somebody's blood might have been a match.

Who do you suggest pay for a world wide search for a survivor with the same blood type?

 

[depotoo]

That is not proven. Sacra also received the experimental tkm-ebola, which Duncan opted not to take. None of the drugs, or transfusion are proven at this point. All we know is the victims given experimental drugs flown back here have survived, whether from zmapp, tkm-ebola, blood transfusion, or supportive measures with dehydration and nutrition, or even their own immune systems were resonsible, is all speculation at this point.
Two survived without blood transfusions. Brantly and the missionary. They both received zmapp in Africa as soon as they developed their symptoms.

It does for me, here is the pertinent info from it-
WHO endorses blood transfusions to combat Ebola, despite skepticism
Health officials acknowledged that their support for blood transfusions was motivated by emotion as well as by science. Limited quantities of a tested vaccine will not be available until November at the earliest, and stocks of experimental drugs such as ZMapp may not be ready until next year.

"One of the things driving fear and panic in communities ... is the belief that there is no treatment for Ebola virus disease," said Marie-Paule Kieny, an assistant director-general at the United Nations' health agency. "We have to change the sense that there is no hope."

But to others, the move looked more like an act of desperation than a decision based on clinical evidence.

"It's an unproven therapy," said Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist and professor at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. "It ought to be evaluated critically before we start investing huge amounts of money".

Link doesn't work.

But it apparently cured one person. In this experimental stage, it would seem prudent to try all remedies.