Why We Lost America….

[PoliticalChic]

He created perhaps the greatest economy in U.S. history before COVID-19.

Toro, how does one communicate with people who really think this?

Now....about Trump's economic miracle....



"He created perhaps the greatest economy in U.S. history before COVID-19. And now he's doing it again!
Who's gonna vote against that?
Remember the brilliant wisdom of Democratic strategist James Carville: "It's the economy, stupid."

The first time, Trump had to rebuild former President Obama and former Vice President Joe Biden's disastrous economy. Obama and Biden were even worse when it came to jobs. It took them four years to get unemployment below 8%. But after the start of the disastrous COVID-19 pandemic, when unemployment hit 14%, it took Trump only five months to get unemployment back under 8%.


Let's go back to GDP. Because economic growth is what really matters. That's how you create jobs. That's how you make Americans feel "better off." The Atlanta Fed is projecting the third-quarter GDP number released on Oct. 29 will be 34.6%. That would be the fastest quarterly economic growth in history. Even if the projection is high, even if the number comes in at 30%, or 27%, or 25%, it would still be the highest in America's history, by a wide margin.

But wait; it gets better. Trump achieved this miracle with a large portion of the country closed for business. Trump did it with deep-blue states such as California, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Illinois and Michigan mostly locked down and closed for business for most of the quarter.

What if all those states had been open for business?


But it gets better. On Friday, the government announced U.S. core retail sales were up a stunning 9.1% year to year -- the greatest rise in America's history. Again, this happened while a dozen blue states were still mostly shut down. They didn't even have indoor dining in California and most of New York City in September.



Optimism of small-business owners climbed to an all-time high in September. Even more significant, the National Federation of Independent Business optimism index October reading of 204 points was the highest since January. That means small-business owners are the most excited and optimistic they've been since before the pandemic.
By the way, economists predicted this small-business optimism index would rise to between 99 and 102 in September. Instead, it doubled to 204, ..."

Trump Is on His Way to Victory -- Because of the Trump Miracle Economy

Of course, President Donald Trump is headed for another election victory on Nov. 3. Why should anyone be shocked? Trump is proving once again why he's the GOAT (the greatest

townhall.com

Yes, that's the Trumpster perspective, I know.

If it's not factual, you should be able to prove so.

'Else you're a lying windbag.

 

[Kondor3]

...Our message didn't lose, we lost because the messenger is a dick and is despised by millions of Americans who would have voted for Nixon's corpse before they would have voted for him. Our message is just fine.

Truth.

Right Message... Wrong Messenger.

 

[Lesh]

….and are about to enter the dark age of a Biden administration.



1.The song says…

Don't blame it on the sunshine
Don't blame it on the moonlight
Don't blame it on the good times
Blame it on the boogie
The Jackson Five
That is false. The eternal Possum had it right: “We Have Met the Enemy and He Is Us”




2. Full disclosure: I am an inveterate pessimist. I see no way to reverse the avalanche of evil, the election of the candidate bought and paid for by Communist China, and no way to head off the destruction and oppression that is to follow. Or even slow its advance.

That said, it is my researched and considered opinion, that evil wins in the end, and the reason is the old adage: “Within each of us are the seeds of our own destruction.”

We have been too weak, too cowardly, too lazy, too self-satisfied, to do what had to be done. Those ‘seeds’ of our destruction are our very human nature. We are self-centered, interested in personal aggrandizement, and tend toward rationalization than objective thought.

And the forces of evil know this, and use it to gain advantage.

Certainly the election was stolen: lots of government school grads have been trained never to think or question, but to follow orders of the party. Lots of ‘em.
But nowhere near the 74.2 million who voted for Trump.



3. The human frailty most responsible for our own demise is a word synonymous with Marxism….and that word is ‘materialism.’ Every Leftist, and far too many others, is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real. Therefore, emotions, such as love, are no more than chemistry. And it suggests that it is only genes and environment that determine our actions, and free will plays no role. And, of course, God and religious beliefs are nonsense. And that is what government school ‘teaches.’


4. From Marx on, the Left has fought against religion for the above reason, and because they understood how difficult it is to get religious people to engage in revolution for the purpose of bettering their material lives.

While the Judeo-Christian society labels actions as ‘good’ or ‘evil,’ due to morality and/or self-control, the Left sees the results as due to material inequality, i.e., violent crime due to poverty.
The Left has been far more interested in fighting material inequality than tyranny, which is why Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, etc., tend to have the support of Leftists around the world.

The Left is less interested in creating wealth than in distributing it. (Dennis Prager)



5. And the results are in: personal aggrandizement and creature comforts are more liable to get votes than rectitude and integrity.

"The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China
In 2013, then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Less than two weeks later, Hunter Biden’s firm inked a $1 billion private equity deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China. The deal was later expanded to $1.5 billion. In short, the Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting vice president."
The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China


Sounds a lot like the $145 million Putin gave the Clintons.
And, also prioritizing personal wealth over honesty, Democrat voters bought selling out to Communism if it came with their own bribes.

Want some cheese with that wine crazy lady?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

….and are about to enter the dark age of a Biden administration.



1.The song says…

Don't blame it on the sunshine
Don't blame it on the moonlight
Don't blame it on the good times
Blame it on the boogie
The Jackson Five
That is false. The eternal Possum had it right: “We Have Met the Enemy and He Is Us”




2. Full disclosure: I am an inveterate pessimist. I see no way to reverse the avalanche of evil, the election of the candidate bought and paid for by Communist China, and no way to head off the destruction and oppression that is to follow. Or even slow its advance.

That said, it is my researched and considered opinion, that evil wins in the end, and the reason is the old adage: “Within each of us are the seeds of our own destruction.”

We have been too weak, too cowardly, too lazy, too self-satisfied, to do what had to be done. Those ‘seeds’ of our destruction are our very human nature. We are self-centered, interested in personal aggrandizement, and tend toward rationalization than objective thought.

And the forces of evil know this, and use it to gain advantage.

Certainly the election was stolen: lots of government school grads have been trained never to think or question, but to follow orders of the party. Lots of ‘em.
But nowhere near the 74.2 million who voted for Trump.



3. The human frailty most responsible for our own demise is a word synonymous with Marxism….and that word is ‘materialism.’ Every Leftist, and far too many others, is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real. Therefore, emotions, such as love, are no more than chemistry. And it suggests that it is only genes and environment that determine our actions, and free will plays no role. And, of course, God and religious beliefs are nonsense. And that is what government school ‘teaches.’


4. From Marx on, the Left has fought against religion for the above reason, and because they understood how difficult it is to get religious people to engage in revolution for the purpose of bettering their material lives.

While the Judeo-Christian society labels actions as ‘good’ or ‘evil,’ due to morality and/or self-control, the Left sees the results as due to material inequality, i.e., violent crime due to poverty.
The Left has been far more interested in fighting material inequality than tyranny, which is why Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, etc., tend to have the support of Leftists around the world.

The Left is less interested in creating wealth than in distributing it. (Dennis Prager)



5. And the results are in: personal aggrandizement and creature comforts are more liable to get votes than rectitude and integrity.

"The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China
In 2013, then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Less than two weeks later, Hunter Biden’s firm inked a $1 billion private equity deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China. The deal was later expanded to $1.5 billion. In short, the Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting vice president."
The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China


Sounds a lot like the $145 million Putin gave the Clintons.
And, also prioritizing personal wealth over honesty, Democrat voters bought selling out to Communism if it came with their own bribes.

You hate America

that’s why the trumpkins are treasonous pondscum

Can you explain why you voted for this?


The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism,
socialism,
infanticide,
opposition to free speech,
substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry,
support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists,
accepting payment from Communist China for future considerations,
and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.



And why you chose the candidate bought and paid for by Communist China????

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We both know you can't......you only follow orders.

Can you give us a few examples from your list?

You can't read???




The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism,

What is anti-white racism?

socialism,
infanticide,
opposition to free speech,
substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry,
support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists,
accepting payment from Communist China for future considerations,
and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.



And why you chose the candidate bought and paid for by Communist China????

Give me an example for everyone of those on your list.

 

[Arresmillao]

….and are about to enter the dark age of a Biden administration.



1.The song says…

Don't blame it on the sunshine
Don't blame it on the moonlight
Don't blame it on the good times
Blame it on the boogie
The Jackson Five
That is false. The eternal Possum had it right: “We Have Met the Enemy and He Is Us”




2. Full disclosure: I am an inveterate pessimist. I see no way to reverse the avalanche of evil, the election of the candidate bought and paid for by Communist China, and no way to head off the destruction and oppression that is to follow. Or even slow its advance.

That said, it is my researched and considered opinion, that evil wins in the end, and the reason is the old adage: “Within each of us are the seeds of our own destruction.”

We have been too weak, too cowardly, too lazy, too self-satisfied, to do what had to be done. Those ‘seeds’ of our destruction are our very human nature. We are self-centered, interested in personal aggrandizement, and tend toward rationalization than objective thought.

And the forces of evil know this, and use it to gain advantage.

Certainly the election was stolen: lots of government school grads have been trained never to think or question, but to follow orders of the party. Lots of ‘em.
But nowhere near the 74.2 million who voted for Trump.



3. The human frailty most responsible for our own demise is a word synonymous with Marxism….and that word is ‘materialism.’ Every Leftist, and far too many others, is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real. Therefore, emotions, such as love, are no more than chemistry. And it suggests that it is only genes and environment that determine our actions, and free will plays no role. And, of course, God and religious beliefs are nonsense. And that is what government school ‘teaches.’


4. From Marx on, the Left has fought against religion for the above reason, and because they understood how difficult it is to get religious people to engage in revolution for the purpose of bettering their material lives.

While the Judeo-Christian society labels actions as ‘good’ or ‘evil,’ due to morality and/or self-control, the Left sees the results as due to material inequality, i.e., violent crime due to poverty.
The Left has been far more interested in fighting material inequality than tyranny, which is why Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, etc., tend to have the support of Leftists around the world.

The Left is less interested in creating wealth than in distributing it. (Dennis Prager)



5. And the results are in: personal aggrandizement and creature comforts are more liable to get votes than rectitude and integrity.

"The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China
In 2013, then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Less than two weeks later, Hunter Biden’s firm inked a $1 billion private equity deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China. The deal was later expanded to $1.5 billion. In short, the Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting vice president."
The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China


Sounds a lot like the $145 million Putin gave the Clintons.
And, also prioritizing personal wealth over honesty, Democrat voters bought selling out to Communism if it came with their own bribes.

suck it up retardican, Biden is president and pussygrabber is not...


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Did you write this, you low-life scum????


“I'm proud of President Biden, by all means necessary he was able to beat the pussygrabber like a dog, if it means that china owns america now, Im ok with it as long as pusssygrabber is gone, jaaa ja ja ja ....”

After The Fat Lady Sings

My prediction, since we found out today that Biden had a closed door meeting with his advisors and staff and Trump returned from Florida earlier than expected: Within the next few days, before the Electoral College vote, Biden will concede the election to Trump. If Biden does not concede, the...

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Dear Retardican, you are not the only ones willing to look the other way, if it serves the purpose, in may case is to get rid of the scumbag pussygrabber at all cost...

 

[Mac1958]

If you lose, it's because the other side has made a better case.

When your messengers and messaging are both more repulsive than those of your opponent, you'll probably lose.

But feel free to blame someone else.

WRONG!!!

Our message didn't lose, we lost because the messenger is a dick and is despised by millions of Americans who would have voted for Nixon's corpse before they would have voted for him.

Our message is just fine.

Look at what I said.

I didn't say "message".

 

[Mac1958]

He created perhaps the greatest economy in U.S. history before COVID-19.

Toro, how does one communicate with people who really think this?

Now....about Trump's economic miracle....



"He created perhaps the greatest economy in U.S. history before COVID-19. And now he's doing it again!
Who's gonna vote against that?
Remember the brilliant wisdom of Democratic strategist James Carville: "It's the economy, stupid."

The first time, Trump had to rebuild former President Obama and former Vice President Joe Biden's disastrous economy. Obama and Biden were even worse when it came to jobs. It took them four years to get unemployment below 8%. But after the start of the disastrous COVID-19 pandemic, when unemployment hit 14%, it took Trump only five months to get unemployment back under 8%.


Let's go back to GDP. Because economic growth is what really matters. That's how you create jobs. That's how you make Americans feel "better off." The Atlanta Fed is projecting the third-quarter GDP number released on Oct. 29 will be 34.6%. That would be the fastest quarterly economic growth in history. Even if the projection is high, even if the number comes in at 30%, or 27%, or 25%, it would still be the highest in America's history, by a wide margin.

But wait; it gets better. Trump achieved this miracle with a large portion of the country closed for business. Trump did it with deep-blue states such as California, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Illinois and Michigan mostly locked down and closed for business for most of the quarter.

What if all those states had been open for business?


But it gets better. On Friday, the government announced U.S. core retail sales were up a stunning 9.1% year to year -- the greatest rise in America's history. Again, this happened while a dozen blue states were still mostly shut down. They didn't even have indoor dining in California and most of New York City in September.



Optimism of small-business owners climbed to an all-time high in September. Even more significant, the National Federation of Independent Business optimism index October reading of 204 points was the highest since January. That means small-business owners are the most excited and optimistic they've been since before the pandemic.
By the way, economists predicted this small-business optimism index would rise to between 99 and 102 in September. Instead, it doubled to 204, ..."

Trump Is on His Way to Victory -- Because of the Trump Miracle Economy

Of course, President Donald Trump is headed for another election victory on Nov. 3. Why should anyone be shocked? Trump is proving once again why he's the GOAT (the greatest

townhall.com

Yes, that's the Trumpster perspective, I know.

If it's not factual, you should be able to prove so.

'Else you're a lying windbag.

Nothing can be "proven" to a Trumpster, unless it comes from your alternate universe. That's all you're going to believe.

You've been told that many times, yet it still hasn't sunk in. I don't know why.

So all that is left to do is observe you and analyze your behaviors.

 

[JoeB131]

...Our message didn't lose, we lost because the messenger is a dick and is despised by millions of Americans who would have voted for Nixon's corpse before they would have voted for him. Our message is just fine.

Truth.

Right Message... Wrong Messenger.

Really? What is your message?

What I've seen in the last four years

Supposed Libertarians supporting a guy who threw kids into concentration camps and sent out storm troopers to beat up peaceful protestors.

Supposed Family Values Christians supporting a guy who paid a Porn Star for sex while his third wife was at home with his fifth child.

Supposed Security Conservatives supporting the weakening of alliances, pandering to enemies and cravenly retreating from the Middle East.

Supposed Fiscal Conservatives supporting a EIGHT TRILLION in new debt AND a Keynesian bailout of businesses and individuals that would have made FDR Blush.

The only "conservative" values we've seen with Trump is that he's boiled down the racial fears that get dumb white people to vote against their own economic interests to their most crass and vulgar form.

 

[Gdjjr]

Nope.....you're a lazy poseur pretending to understand both sides.

And you, an intellectually dishonest Republican hack, have no basis for calling anyone lazy- I don't pretend anything- not addressing what I say and attacking me personally is so Democrat- see how that works.

 

[Gdjjr]

Let's try this again, Poli- read what I wrote and tell me where I'm wrong. Calling me names proves only that you have no argument.





Wow! Polichic, let me start by saying; I'm a southern gentleman and don't like being harsh to the fairer sex, or animals, or little kids- and this is an address to EVERYONE, not just polichic, so, I'll be polite until someone is impolite to me, then, all's fair in love and war- the first thing that came to mind when I saw the words "inveterate pessimist" was; be the change you want to see-

Polichic, you sow seeds of discord- the others who argue with you are no better- that leads me to believe, that's what you want- all of you-

Being the change you want to see, begins with, intellectual honesty. That requires looking at, (and if possible, presenting), all the evidence- if not, the analysis is subjective- a subjective analysis can lead to a pessimistic POV-

IMO, America was lost before the ink was dry on the constitution- that is, if freedom and liberty are key. The anti-federalist writings explained why- the concept of America is a wonderful concept, but, men (people) being what they are there was not enough accountability (punishment) for disregarding the rules- and BOTH sides do that- always have and always will-

Several years ago, I came up with a saying; when havoc is created, chaos ensues and catastrophe is inevitable- that is a natural chain of events. So, when was the havoc created? It could be (and historians will assign a time line like they always do), 1776- since men had always been ruled over and "America" (at least the concept of self governing) was not the norm- outside the norm creates havoc (as we've seen with Trumps personality)- it's been chaotic in this Country (even before we were such) ever since in a political tussle-

Not one thing will change inside a persons head (or heart) until they decide they want a change- it's like any personal issue- there is only one person in this world you can change- look in the mirror- be the change you want to see- nothing, absolutely nothing happens without Individual Effort- intellectual honesty has to be the foundation built on- seeds of discord bear the fruit of discord- it's the natural occurrence- forced or coerced is doomed to failure because either/or is immoral-

 

[Mac1958]

...Our message didn't lose, we lost because the messenger is a dick and is despised by millions of Americans who would have voted for Nixon's corpse before they would have voted for him. Our message is just fine.

Truth.

Right Message... Wrong Messenger.

Message is one thing. Messaging and messenger are two different things.

The Right somehow still hasn't gotten that through their heads.

 

[Gdjjr]

The Right somehow still hasn't gotten that through their heads.

It's a Democrat tactic the right finally learned-

 

[Kondor3]

...Really? What is your message? ...

1. bring the hammer down on Illegal Aliens
2. stop feeding Chinese economic and military growth
3. stop Cancel Culture
4. stop feeding Democratic fiscal and governmental incompetency in our major cities
5. make Allies pony-up a greater share of their own defense costs
6. stop Judicial Activism

...for starters.

 

[Kondor3]

...Message is one thing. Messaging and messenger are two different things. The Right somehow still hasn't gotten that through their heads.

Yep. And until they do, they are no longer fit to govern.

 

[JoeB131]

1. bring the hammer down on Illegal Aliens
2. stop feeding Chinese economic and military growth
3. stop Cancel Culture

Okay, the first three are "Racism, Racism and More Racism"... Not a promising start.

There is no "illegal crisis", China really isn't a threat and yes, some people deserve to be "cancelled" for being racists. Next.

4. stop feeding Democratic fiscal and governmental incompetency in our major cities

Again, the Blue States are carrying the REd states fiscally, so how does that happen?

5. make Allies pony-up a greater share of their own defense costs

And how do we do that? We're the ones who have the interest in a world wide defensive structure...

6. stop Judicial Activism

By appointing religious crazies to the courts?

 

[Gdjjr]

By appointing religious crazies to the courts?

That isn't a lot worse than having people who subscribe to, under the color of law as their bible- is it?

 

[Gdjjr]

We're the ones who have the interest in a world wide defensive structure...

Yeah, hegemony through colonization. What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Gdjjr]

Again, the Blue States are carrying the REd states fiscally,

Theft is theft, it makes no difference if it's a little or a lot or what the excuse is.

 

[Gdjjr]

some people deserve to be "cancelled" for being racists. Next.

Not really- be the change you want to see- it ain't rocket science-

 

[Kondor3]

...Okay, the first three are "Racism, Racism and More Racism"... Not a promising start. ...

Nope. Genuine concerns on the part of White Folk. You'll see it dominating the scene again in 2022 and 2024, sans the Wrong Messenger.

Two to four years of over-representing minorities in high government positions and sickening political correctness and Reparations drivel will see to that.

Crazy Nancy and Company think they've got some kind of bull$hit "Mandate from the People" for their silly-a$$ed progressive agenda. They don't.

Face it... Dems lost seats in the House... if it wasn't for the obnoxious Orange Baboon-God the Dems would not even have this brief window of opportunity.

Folks didn't vote for Dems... folks didn't vote for Uncle Joe nor primary-loser Kamela... they voted for the UN-Cola... they voted AGAINST The Orange Beast.

But the silly-a$$ed Democrats-Liberals-Progressives routinely delude themselves about such things until they get knocked on their a$$ again at the polls.