Why were the polls so wrong?

[candycorn]

It seems to me that polls are flawed and just a way to manipulate people.

The liberals on this site always make fun of Rasmussen, but werent they among the closest?

Quinnipeac had Florida going Biden +5%. He lost by almost 4%. A nearly 10 point swing???? How do you fuck up that badly?

Lots of polls had it pretty close.

I'm really kind of amazed that absolute perfection is being demanded when there are like 160,000,000 variables (the number of voters).

Missing Florida by 10 points isnt close.

There were some outliers. I remember starting a thread that any poll that didn't have a swing state within 3-5 points was an outlier.

This shouldn't be a shock to you.

Its their fucking job. Would you accept a plumber who installed a toilet 10% wrong?

If the plumber had 160,000,000 variables...I'd be happy if it was only 10% wrong. I'd probably have multiple plumbers give multiple estimates....instead of relying on one and then sheepishly wondering what went wrong.

 

[ColonelAngus]

We have 22 millon living souls in Florida, and only 11 millon voted. That is a good turnout.

 

[candycorn]

It seems to me that polls are flawed and just a way to manipulate people.

The liberals on this site always make fun of Rasmussen, but werent they among the closest?

Quinnipeac had Florida going Biden +5%. He lost by almost 4%. A nearly 10 point swing???? How do you fuck up that badly?

They aren't flawed...they made them up to suppress the vote..........that is the truth.

Most of the polls had it pretty correct. electoral-vote.com had averages in WI/MI/PA with Biden around 50-51% Thats where he's landing. And Trump was around 49-51 percent also. Right where he landed.

 

[ColonelAngus]

It seems to me that polls are flawed and just a way to manipulate people.

The liberals on this site always make fun of Rasmussen, but werent they among the closest?

Quinnipeac had Florida going Biden +5%. He lost by almost 4%. A nearly 10 point swing???? How do you fuck up that badly?

Lots of polls had it pretty close.

I'm really kind of amazed that absolute perfection is being demanded when there are like 160,000,000 variables (the number of voters).

Missing Florida by 10 points isnt close.

There were some outliers. I remember starting a thread that any poll that didn't have a swing state within 3-5 points was an outlier.

This shouldn't be a shock to you.

Its their fucking job. Would you accept a plumber who installed a toilet 10% wrong?

If the plumber had 160,000,000 variables...I'd be happy if it was only 10% wrong. I'd probably have multiple plumbers give multiple estimates....instead of relying on one and then sheepishly wondering what went wrong.

You accept failure. Good Luck to the space program.

not one poll had Biden losing Florida by 4 points.

 

[ColonelAngus]

It seems to me that polls are flawed and just a way to manipulate people.

The liberals on this site always make fun of Rasmussen, but werent they among the closest?

Quinnipeac had Florida going Biden +5%. He lost by almost 4%. A nearly 10 point swing???? How do you fuck up that badly?

They aren't flawed...they made them up to suppress the vote..........that is the truth.

Most of the polls had it pretty correct. electoral-vote.com had averages in WI/MI/PA with Biden around 50-51% Thats where he's landing. And Trump was around 49-51 percent also. Right where he landed.

Why the 10 point miss in Florida?

 

[candycorn]

It seems to me that polls are flawed and just a way to manipulate people.

The liberals on this site always make fun of Rasmussen, but werent they among the closest?

Quinnipeac had Florida going Biden +5%. He lost by almost 4%. A nearly 10 point swing???? How do you fuck up that badly?

Lots of polls had it pretty close.

I'm really kind of amazed that absolute perfection is being demanded when there are like 160,000,000 variables (the number of voters).

Missing Florida by 10 points isnt close.

There were some outliers. I remember starting a thread that any poll that didn't have a swing state within 3-5 points was an outlier.

This shouldn't be a shock to you.

Its their fucking job. Would you accept a plumber who installed a toilet 10% wrong?

If the plumber had 160,000,000 variables...I'd be happy if it was only 10% wrong. I'd probably have multiple plumbers give multiple estimates....instead of relying on one and then sheepishly wondering what went wrong.

You accept failure. Good Luck to the space program.

not one poll had Biden losing Florida by 4 points.

I could probably find one if I looked hard enough. I know there was one that had him down by 3. And when you add in the MOE....4% easy.

 

[candycorn]

It seems to me that polls are flawed and just a way to manipulate people.

The liberals on this site always make fun of Rasmussen, but werent they among the closest?

Quinnipeac had Florida going Biden +5%. He lost by almost 4%. A nearly 10 point swing???? How do you fuck up that badly?

They aren't flawed...they made them up to suppress the vote..........that is the truth.

Most of the polls had it pretty correct. electoral-vote.com had averages in WI/MI/PA with Biden around 50-51% Thats where he's landing. And Trump was around 49-51 percent also. Right where he landed.

Why the 10 point miss in Florida?

Its an outlier. One poll was going to "suppress the vote"?

 

[gipper]

It seems to me that polls are flawed and just a way to manipulate people.

The liberals on this site always make fun of Rasmussen, but werent they among the closest?

Quinnipeac had Florida going Biden +5%. He lost by almost 4%. A nearly 10 point swing???? How do you fuck up that badly?

They weren’t wrong. Trump cheated.

 

[ColonelAngus]

It seems to me that polls are flawed and just a way to manipulate people.

The liberals on this site always make fun of Rasmussen, but werent they among the closest?

Quinnipeac had Florida going Biden +5%. He lost by almost 4%. A nearly 10 point swing???? How do you fuck up that badly?

Lots of polls had it pretty close.

I'm really kind of amazed that absolute perfection is being demanded when there are like 160,000,000 variables (the number of voters).

Missing Florida by 10 points isnt close.

There were some outliers. I remember starting a thread that any poll that didn't have a swing state within 3-5 points was an outlier.

This shouldn't be a shock to you.

Its their fucking job. Would you accept a plumber who installed a toilet 10% wrong?

If the plumber had 160,000,000 variables...I'd be happy if it was only 10% wrong. I'd probably have multiple plumbers give multiple estimates....instead of relying on one and then sheepishly wondering what went wrong.

You accept failure. Good Luck to the space program.

not one poll had Biden losing Florida by 4 points.

I could probably find one if I looked hard enough. I know there was one that had him down by 3. And when you add in the MOE....4% easy.

An outlier. Right?

I think other states were closer. Florida was a big miss,

 

[lennypartiv]

Why were the polls so wrong?

Voter fraud. If the SC doesn't fix this mess, Trump should issue an EO voiding the election.

 

[ColonelAngus]

It seems to me that polls are flawed and just a way to manipulate people.

The liberals on this site always make fun of Rasmussen, but werent they among the closest?

Quinnipeac had Florida going Biden +5%. He lost by almost 4%. A nearly 10 point swing???? How do you fuck up that badly?

They aren't flawed...they made them up to suppress the vote..........that is the truth.

Most of the polls had it pretty correct. electoral-vote.com had averages in WI/MI/PA with Biden around 50-51% Thats where he's landing. And Trump was around 49-51 percent also. Right where he landed.

Why the 10 point miss in Florida?

Its an outlier. One poll was going to "suppress the vote"?

I am not contending the miss supressed votes. I am contending they suck at their jobs. A 10 point miss is just awfl.

 

[ColonelAngus]

It seems to me that polls are flawed and just a way to manipulate people.

The liberals on this site always make fun of Rasmussen, but werent they among the closest?

Quinnipeac had Florida going Biden +5%. He lost by almost 4%. A nearly 10 point swing???? How do you fuck up that badly?

They weren’t wrong. Trump cheated.

Cubans hate communists. That is what happened in Florida.

 

[candycorn]

It seems to me that polls are flawed and just a way to manipulate people.

The liberals on this site always make fun of Rasmussen, but werent they among the closest?

Quinnipeac had Florida going Biden +5%. He lost by almost 4%. A nearly 10 point swing???? How do you fuck up that badly?

Lots of polls had it pretty close.

I'm really kind of amazed that absolute perfection is being demanded when there are like 160,000,000 variables (the number of voters).

Missing Florida by 10 points isnt close.

There were some outliers. I remember starting a thread that any poll that didn't have a swing state within 3-5 points was an outlier.

This shouldn't be a shock to you.

Its their fucking job. Would you accept a plumber who installed a toilet 10% wrong?

If the plumber had 160,000,000 variables...I'd be happy if it was only 10% wrong. I'd probably have multiple plumbers give multiple estimates....instead of relying on one and then sheepishly wondering what went wrong.

You accept failure. Good Luck to the space program.

not one poll had Biden losing Florida by 4 points.

I could probably find one if I looked hard enough. I know there was one that had him down by 3. And when you add in the MOE....4% easy.

An outlier. Right?

I think other states were closer. Florida was a big miss,

Biden being down by 3 is not an outlier so much.

Here is the average of the polling on electoral-vote.com.

You see Biden was well behind in Early Sepegmber as well as mid-late October. Was it 4 points? I don't know. But the idea that there polling was used to suppress turnout is flat out idiotic.

 

[candycorn]

It seems to me that polls are flawed and just a way to manipulate people.

The liberals on this site always make fun of Rasmussen, but werent they among the closest?

Quinnipeac had Florida going Biden +5%. He lost by almost 4%. A nearly 10 point swing???? How do you fuck up that badly?

They aren't flawed...they made them up to suppress the vote..........that is the truth.

Most of the polls had it pretty correct. electoral-vote.com had averages in WI/MI/PA with Biden around 50-51% Thats where he's landing. And Trump was around 49-51 percent also. Right where he landed.

Why the 10 point miss in Florida?

Its an outlier. One poll was going to "suppress the vote"?

I am not contending the miss supressed votes. I am contending they suck at their jobs. A 10 point miss is just awfl.

The guy in the thread is.

 

[ColonelAngus]

It seems to me that polls are flawed and just a way to manipulate people.

The liberals on this site always make fun of Rasmussen, but werent they among the closest?

Quinnipeac had Florida going Biden +5%. He lost by almost 4%. A nearly 10 point swing???? How do you fuck up that badly?

Lots of polls had it pretty close.

I'm really kind of amazed that absolute perfection is being demanded when there are like 160,000,000 variables (the number of voters).

Missing Florida by 10 points isnt close.

There were some outliers. I remember starting a thread that any poll that didn't have a swing state within 3-5 points was an outlier.

This shouldn't be a shock to you.

Its their fucking job. Would you accept a plumber who installed a toilet 10% wrong?

If the plumber had 160,000,000 variables...I'd be happy if it was only 10% wrong. I'd probably have multiple plumbers give multiple estimates....instead of relying on one and then sheepishly wondering what went wrong.

You accept failure. Good Luck to the space program.

not one poll had Biden losing Florida by 4 points.

I could probably find one if I looked hard enough. I know there was one that had him down by 3. And when you add in the MOE....4% easy.

An outlier. Right?

I think other states were closer. Florida was a big miss,

Biden being down by 3 is not an outlier so much.

Here is the average of the polling on electoral-vote.com.

View attachment 411131

You see Biden was well behind in Early Sepegmber as well as mid-late October. Was it 4 points? I don't know. But the idea that there polling was used to suppress turnout is flat out idiotic.

I saw Biden +5 on Monday by Quinnipeac.

 

[ColonelAngus]

It seems to me that polls are flawed and just a way to manipulate people.

The liberals on this site always make fun of Rasmussen, but werent they among the closest?

Quinnipeac had Florida going Biden +5%. He lost by almost 4%. A nearly 10 point swing???? How do you fuck up that badly?

They aren't flawed...they made them up to suppress the vote..........that is the truth.

Most of the polls had it pretty correct. electoral-vote.com had averages in WI/MI/PA with Biden around 50-51% Thats where he's landing. And Trump was around 49-51 percent also. Right where he landed.

Why the 10 point miss in Florida?

Its an outlier. One poll was going to "suppress the vote"?

I am not contending the miss supressed votes. I am contending they suck at their jobs. A 10 point miss is just awfl.

The guy in the thread is.

Well congrats on President Harris. Well Done.

 

[candycorn]

It seems to me that polls are flawed and just a way to manipulate people.

The liberals on this site always make fun of Rasmussen, but werent they among the closest?

Quinnipeac had Florida going Biden +5%. He lost by almost 4%. A nearly 10 point swing???? How do you fuck up that badly?

Lots of polls had it pretty close.

I'm really kind of amazed that absolute perfection is being demanded when there are like 160,000,000 variables (the number of voters).

Missing Florida by 10 points isnt close.

There were some outliers. I remember starting a thread that any poll that didn't have a swing state within 3-5 points was an outlier.

This shouldn't be a shock to you.

Its their fucking job. Would you accept a plumber who installed a toilet 10% wrong?

If the plumber had 160,000,000 variables...I'd be happy if it was only 10% wrong. I'd probably have multiple plumbers give multiple estimates....instead of relying on one and then sheepishly wondering what went wrong.

You accept failure. Good Luck to the space program.

not one poll had Biden losing Florida by 4 points.

I could probably find one if I looked hard enough. I know there was one that had him down by 3. And when you add in the MOE....4% easy.

An outlier. Right?

I think other states were closer. Florida was a big miss,

Biden being down by 3 is not an outlier so much.

Here is the average of the polling on electoral-vote.com.

View attachment 411131

You see Biden was well behind in Early Sepegmber as well as mid-late October. Was it 4 points? I don't know. But the idea that there polling was used to suppress turnout is flat out idiotic.

I saw Biden +5 on Monday by Quinnipeac.

Again, going forward, I encourage you to look at polling averages. It mitigates outliers or polls that have questions that are more friendly to one side or the other. Just a suggestion.

 

[Votto]

It seems to me that polls are flawed and just a way to manipulate people.

The liberals on this site always make fun of Rasmussen, but werent they among the closest?

Quinnipeac had Florida going Biden +5%. He lost by almost 4%. A nearly 10 point swing???? How do you fuck up that badly?

Polls now say that Biden leads his opponent in the next Presidential race by 20 points, whoever the hell that will be.

Then again, maybe the GOP just stops running any opposition because I think they are all just part of the Swamp themselves.

 

[ColonelAngus]

It seems to me that polls are flawed and just a way to manipulate people.

The liberals on this site always make fun of Rasmussen, but werent they among the closest?

Quinnipeac had Florida going Biden +5%. He lost by almost 4%. A nearly 10 point swing???? How do you fuck up that badly?

Lots of polls had it pretty close.

I'm really kind of amazed that absolute perfection is being demanded when there are like 160,000,000 variables (the number of voters).

Missing Florida by 10 points isnt close.

There were some outliers. I remember starting a thread that any poll that didn't have a swing state within 3-5 points was an outlier.

This shouldn't be a shock to you.

Its their fucking job. Would you accept a plumber who installed a toilet 10% wrong?

If the plumber had 160,000,000 variables...I'd be happy if it was only 10% wrong. I'd probably have multiple plumbers give multiple estimates....instead of relying on one and then sheepishly wondering what went wrong.

You accept failure. Good Luck to the space program.

not one poll had Biden losing Florida by 4 points.

I could probably find one if I looked hard enough. I know there was one that had him down by 3. And when you add in the MOE....4% easy.

An outlier. Right?

I think other states were closer. Florida was a big miss,

Biden being down by 3 is not an outlier so much.

Here is the average of the polling on electoral-vote.com.

View attachment 411131

You see Biden was well behind in Early Sepegmber as well as mid-late October. Was it 4 points? I don't know. But the idea that there polling was used to suppress turnout is flat out idiotic.

I saw Biden +5 on Monday by Quinnipeac.

Again, going forward, I encourage you to look at polling averages. It mitigates outliers or polls that have questions that are more friendly to one side or the other. Just a suggestion.

There should not be outliers. They should have an accurate methodology. Quinnipeac having Biden +5 on Monday is inexcusable.

The polls themselves do not affect me. I vote. Trump was the top of the ballot. I filled in 30 circles.

 

[candycorn]

It seems to me that polls are flawed and just a way to manipulate people.

The liberals on this site always make fun of Rasmussen, but werent they among the closest?

Quinnipeac had Florida going Biden +5%. He lost by almost 4%. A nearly 10 point swing???? How do you fuck up that badly?

Lots of polls had it pretty close.

I'm really kind of amazed that absolute perfection is being demanded when there are like 160,000,000 variables (the number of voters).

Missing Florida by 10 points isnt close.

There were some outliers. I remember starting a thread that any poll that didn't have a swing state within 3-5 points was an outlier.

This shouldn't be a shock to you.

Its their fucking job. Would you accept a plumber who installed a toilet 10% wrong?

If the plumber had 160,000,000 variables...I'd be happy if it was only 10% wrong. I'd probably have multiple plumbers give multiple estimates....instead of relying on one and then sheepishly wondering what went wrong.

You accept failure. Good Luck to the space program.

not one poll had Biden losing Florida by 4 points.

I could probably find one if I looked hard enough. I know there was one that had him down by 3. And when you add in the MOE....4% easy.

An outlier. Right?

I think other states were closer. Florida was a big miss,

Biden being down by 3 is not an outlier so much.

Here is the average of the polling on electoral-vote.com.

View attachment 411131

You see Biden was well behind in Early Sepegmber as well as mid-late October. Was it 4 points? I don't know. But the idea that there polling was used to suppress turnout is flat out idiotic.

I saw Biden +5 on Monday by Quinnipeac.

Again, going forward, I encourage you to look at polling averages. It mitigates outliers or polls that have questions that are more friendly to one side or the other. Just a suggestion.

There should not be outliers. They should have an accurate methodology. Quinnipeac having Biden +5 on Monday is inexcusable.

The polls themselves do not affect me. I vote. Trump was the top of the ballot. I filled in 30 circles.

You don't understand the nature of polling if you don't understand outliers. When they do the vaccine studies, one out of every 1,000 or whatever will report they felt dizzy or felt tired or felt unusually warm or cold or thirsty or hungry or sensitive to light or loud noise. Sampling has outliers.