Why Workers in Red States Vote Against Their Economic Self-Interest

guno

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For years, political scientists have wondered why so many poor and working-class citizens of so-called “red” states vote against their economic self-interest.
The wages of production workers have been dropping for 30 years, adjusted for inflation, and their economic security has disappeared. A smaller share of working-age Americans hold jobs today than at any time in more than three decades.
For them, a job is precious — sometimes even more precious than a safe workplace or safe drinking water.
This is especially true in poorer regions of the country like West Virginia and through much of Southern and rural America, where the old working class has been voting Republican. Guns, abortion and race are part of the explanation. But don’t overlook economic anxieties that translate into a willingness to vote for whatever it is that industry wants.
This may explain why Republican officials who have been casting their votes against unions, against expanding Medicaid, against raising the minimum wage, against extended unemployment insurance, and against jobs bills that would put people to work, continue to be elected and re-elected.
They obviously have the support of corporate patrons who want to keep unemployment high and workers insecure because a pliant working class helps their bottom lines.

As someone who has lived in the south for the past half of my life it always puzzled me why people in this region always vote against their self interests and defend the same people who exploit them . I attribute it to a plantation mentality ...
 
you mispelled 'guano'

lol!!

:d

It's always entertaining when these newcomers pop in and post screeds assuming that unions, minimum wages, etc. are somehow "good for people's economic self-interest", when in fact those things reduce jobs and lengthen recessions.
 
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you mispelled 'guano'

lol!!

:d

It's always entertaining when these newcomers pop in and post screeds assuming that unions, minimum wages, etc. are somehow "good for people's economic self-interest", when in fact those things reduce jobs and lengthen recessions.

YEAH! Minimum Wage is bullshit!

Which goes back to the OP's question...Why do republicans vote against their own economic interest? lol
 
For years, political scientists have wondered why so many poor and working-class citizens of so-called “red” states vote against their economic self-interest.
The wages of production workers have been dropping for 30 years, adjusted for inflation, and their economic security has disappeared. A smaller share of working-age Americans hold jobs today than at any time in more than three decades.
For them, a job is precious — sometimes even more precious than a safe workplace or safe drinking water.
This is especially true in poorer regions of the country like West Virginia and through much of Southern and rural America, where the old working class has been voting Republican. Guns, abortion and race are part of the explanation. But don’t overlook economic anxieties that translate into a willingness to vote for whatever it is that industry wants.
This may explain why Republican officials who have been casting their votes against unions, against expanding Medicaid, against raising the minimum wage, against extended unemployment insurance, and against jobs bills that would put people to work, continue to be elected and re-elected.
They obviously have the support of corporate patrons who want to keep unemployment high and workers insecure because a pliant working class helps their bottom lines.

As someone who has lived in the south for the past half of my life it always puzzled me why people in this region always vote against their self interests and defend the same people who exploit them . I attribute it to a plantation mentality ...

Low taxes, smaller government, individual responsibility and strong National defense.

Explain how these are against poor and middle class citizens interest.
 
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So the only reason to vote for something is so that someone will give you something?

Maybe not everyone thinks that way.

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Perhaps because some people still believe in what that Democrat Leader John F. Kennedy once said..

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your Country."

Today, those people are called "Republicans". Today's Democrats have twisted that saying into

"I ain't doing shit for the country because the Country owes me.".
 
you mispelled 'guano'

lol!!

:d

It's always entertaining when these newcomers pop in and post screeds assuming that unions, minimum wages, etc. are somehow "good for people's economic self-interest", when in fact those things reduce jobs and lengthen recessions.

Strange how the red states welcomed with open arms company's from good wage states taking jobs at what the company's formally paid at half the wage in the 1980's. Then when company's found they could get even cheaper labor they left the region in the late 90's
 
you mispelled 'guano'

lol!!

:d

It's always entertaining when these newcomers pop in and post screeds assuming that unions, minimum wages, etc. are somehow "good for people's economic self-interest", when in fact those things reduce jobs and lengthen recessions.

Strange how the red states welcomed with open arms company's from good wage states taking jobs at what the company's formally paid at half the wage in the 1980's. Then when company's found they could get even cheaper labor they left the region in the late 90's

And your evidence is?
 
working class has been voting Republican. Guns, abortion and race are part of the explanation.


Really oyu have a good explanation,or just chucking things out there.
 
IT'S HILARIOUS REALLY; left-wing idiots trying to lecture about voting against their own interests.
the top states for the hightest unemployment are Blue states; and the lowest unemployment is in Red states.
 
They vote against immediate rewards because the underlying causes are not obvious as the talking points that the debates are almost always limited to. The usual fights that go nowhere are a diversion to keep us from getting anywhere from the real issues.
 
IT'S HILARIOUS REALLY; left-wing idiots trying to lecture about voting against their own interests.
the top states for the hightest unemployment are Blue states; and the lowest unemployment is in Red states.

Along with the lowest wages.
 
There is nothing wrong with having moral principles that don't put yourself over other people. The problem is really that there is an assumed morality to capitalism that ignores the reality because morality is established through laws as opposed to applied reason. When someone is not good at applying reason a strict legal framework for morality is often needed but that still leaves someone to establish the rules.

Reagan actually went a long way to establishing a lot of these laws in the minds of conservatives concerning the economy. His success was so complete that they will go to great lengths to ignore reality, including the reality of the Reagan administration. Just try bringing up the increase of debt that happened under Reagan and you will see the faithful scramble to make excuses and dismiss the reality.
 
IT'S HILARIOUS REALLY; left-wing idiots trying to lecture about voting against their own interests.
the top states for the hightest unemployment are Blue states; and the lowest unemployment is in Red states.

Along with the lowest wages.
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um not really leftard; and prices for things are lower in Red states, which makes up for that

and lower as in North Dakota and the oil worker jobs?

lol; who give shit what a crybaby left-wingnut who cant handle facts thinks?



along with the jobs; FACT, jobs are leaving Blue states and going to Red states
 
IT'S HILARIOUS REALLY; left-wing idiots trying to lecture about voting against their own interests.
the top states for the hightest unemployment are Blue states; and the lowest unemployment is in Red states.

People are unemployed because employers are fed up with everything, and the only place they remedy is to cut back on their work force.
 
They vote against immediate rewards because the underlying causes are not obvious as the talking points that the debates are almost always limited to. The usual fights that go nowhere are a diversion to keep us from getting anywhere from the real issues.

IMHO - what you say is probably 90% of the issue. But I have a problem with the assumption of the OP.

Was it in the individual self interest of those soldiers to hit beaches in the Pacific or in France?

Why would anyone assume that poor red-state voters are voting out of ignorance? Can't they be sacrificing their own individual self interests to support the interests of the whole? And if they are - isn't that a selfless act?
 
There is nothing wrong with having moral principles that don't put yourself over other people. The problem is really that there is an assumed morality to capitalism that ignores the reality because morality is established through laws as opposed to applied reason. When someone is not good at applying reason a strict legal framework for morality is often needed but that still leaves someone to establish the rules.

Reagan actually went a long way to establishing a lot of these laws in the minds of conservatives concerning the economy. His success was so complete that they will go to great lengths to ignore reality, including the reality of the Reagan administration. Just try bringing up the increase of debt that happened under Reagan and you will see the faithful scramble to make excuses and dismiss the reality.

Events under Reagan have very little to do with today's economic realities. Why don't you just say, "Bbbb...Bushy."
 

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