Why worship a god that doesn't care?

[ScienceRocks]

Why worship a God that doesn't care? Would a young man worship a dead beat dad that ran away for the first 20 years of his life? Fuck no. Everyone would stand with him on this too as it is the fault of the dad for fucking up.

God owes us with his presence at least once before people accept him as real. Once he does I'll worship him and respect him...If not then no one should respect him!

I think our Heavenly father should think about this as it is not right what he is currently doing.

 

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Why worship a god that doesn't care? Would a young man worship a dead beat dad that ran away for the first 20 years of his life? Fuck no.

God owes us with his presence at least once before people accept him as real. Once he does I'll worship him and respect him...If not then no one should respect him!

Matthew, since you don't believe in God, why would you care that we worship Him? Could it be that you are trying to convince others to stop believing in Him? You're not trying to be subversive, are you?

 

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Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Socialism seeks equality through uniformity and communal ownership Socialism has an extraordinary ability to incite and inflame its adherents and inspire social movements. Socialists dismiss their defeats and ignore their incongruities. They desire big government and use big government to implement their morally relativistic social policies. Socialism is a religion. The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership. They practice critical theory which is the Cultural Marxist theory to criticize what they do not believe to arrive at what they do believe without ever having to examine what they believe.

 

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Because no one can find one that does care.

 

[cnm]

Socialism is a religion.

Yeah, right. Is it a god as well?

 

[ScienceRocks]

At least socialism aims to help people and is real.

You just wish for suffering and believing in lies.

 

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At least socialism aims to help people and is real.

You just wish for suffering and believing in lies.

Thank you for proving my point, Karl.

 

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Socialism is a religion.

Yeah, right. Is it a god as well?

You tell me. You seem to be dialed into it.

 

[Kat]

That's why we have a choice, and no force.

 

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This seems like an appropriate thread for this.

 

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That's why we have a choice, and no force.

Exactly. But not so much when the government becomes God.

 

[yiostheoy]

The concept of the God in modern Philosophy is indeed one of a cold disinterested deity who mainly exists to contemplate his own creations and his own perfection.

The other major Religious God(s) are somewhat different.

Whereas the Jews' "JHVH" is purported to be a "loving God" however he has not done much for the Jews lately (about 2000 years) and he abandoned them to Adolf and his SS back in 1938 during Krystalnacht.

The Christian "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit" are ostensibly One but this smacks of polytheism, especially more so if you read the New Testament in Greek -- which has not been Protestant-ized by the Protestants with faulty English re-translations. Supposedly in Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, God (the Father) is your judge, Jesus (the Son) loves you, and the Holy Spirit is your comforter. So there is some love there -- 2 out of 3 is NOT BAD !!!

The Muslim "Allah" (an Arab-ized variation of the Hebrew EL-AL) only loves you if you are Muslim and you kill infidels -- then you get 72 virgins with full breasts and firm. But not here -- only on the other side of death. Keep those plane crashes and suicide vests coming.

Loads and loads of crap.

I am quite happy with the Philosophy God (Deist not Theist).

 

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It is especially easy for us to observe socialism's hostility to religion, for this is inherent, with few exceptions, in all contemporary socialist states and doctrines. Only rarely is the abolition of religion legislated, as it was in Albania. But the actions of other socialist states leave no doubt that they are all governed by this very principle and that only external difficulties have prevented its complete implementation. This same principle has been repeatedly proclaimed in socialist doctrines, beginning with the end of the seventeenth century. Sixteenth- and seventeenth-century doctrines are imbued with cold skeptical and ironic attitudes toward religion. If not consciously, then "objectively," they prepared humanity for the convergence of socialist ideology and militant atheism that took place at the end of the seventeenth century and during the course of the eighteenth. The heretical movements of the Middle Ages were religious in character, but those in which socialist tendencies were especially pronounced were the ones that were irrevocably opposed to the actual religion professed by the majority at the time. Calls to assassinate the Pope and to annihilate all monks and priests run like a red thread through the history of these movements. Their hatred for the basic symbols of Christianity--the cross and the church--is very striking. We encounter the burning of crosses and the profanation of churches from the first centuries of Christianity right up to the present day.

The Socialist Phenomenon by Igor Shafarevich

 

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The concept of the God in modern Philosophy is indeed one of a cold disinterested deity who mainly exists to contemplate his own creations and his own perfection.

The other major Religious God(s) are somewhat different.

Whereas the Jews' "JHVH" is purported to be a "loving God" however he has not done much for the Jews lately (about 2000 years) and he abandoned them to Adolf and his SS back in 1938 during Krystalnacht.

The Christian "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit" are ostensibly One but this smacks of polytheism, especially more so if you read the New Testament in Greek -- which has not been Protestant-ized by the Protestants with faulty English re-translations. Supposedly in Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, God (the Father) is your judge, Jesus (the Son) loves you, and the Holy Spirit is your comforter. So there is some love there -- 2 out of 3 is NOT BAD !!!

The Muslim "Allah" (an Arab-ized variation of the Hebrew EL-AL) only loves you if you are Muslim and you kill infidels -- then you get 72 virgins with full breasts and firm. But not here -- only on the other side of death.

Loads and loads of crap.

I am quite happy with the Philosophy God (Deist not Theist).

And you could not be more of a dupe.

Throughout our nation's history, churches have done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility. Moral and civil individuals are largely governed by their own sense of right and wrong, and hence have little need for external government. This is the real reason the collectivist Left hates religion: Churches as institutions compete with the state for the people's allegiance, and many devout people put their faith in God before putting their faith in the state. Knowing this, the secularists wage an ongoing war against religion, chipping away bit by bit at our nation's Christian heritage.
Dr. Ron Paul

 

[cnm]

You tell me. You seem to be dialed into it.

You seem to be a dumb fuck rightard who doesn't know any definition of socialism except the propaganda you've slurped then regurgitated all your life.

Who then runs away when called on it.

 

[cnm]

Their hatred for the basic symbols of Christianity--the cross and the church--is very striking. We encounter the burning of crosses and the profanation of churches from the first centuries of Christianity right up to the present day.

Who knew the Klan was around so early?

 

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You tell me. You seem to be dialed into it.

You seem to be a dumb fuck rightard who doesn't know any definition of socialism except the propaganda you've slurped then regurgitated all your life.

You seem upset. Did I strike a nerve?

The Khmer Rouge abolished all religion and dispersed minority groups, forbidding them to speak their languages or to practice their customs. These policies had been implemented in less severe forms for many years prior to the Khmer Rouge's taking power.

 

[yiostheoy]

By the way, if you don't like (1) the Philosophy God, (2) the Jewish God, (3) the Catholic Gods (and Saints and Archangels), or the Moosleem god, you can always become a Satan worshipper --

WHICH IS WHAT I AM GUESSING YOU ALREADY ARE WITH YOUR RHETORICAL QUERY.

 

[Kat]

That's why we have a choice, and no force.

Exactly. But not so much when the government becomes God.

While that is true, you have to remember they can't control your heart.

 

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Their hatred for the basic symbols of Christianity--the cross and the church--is very striking. We encounter the burning of crosses and the profanation of churches from the first centuries of Christianity right up to the present day.

Who knew the Klan was around so early?

Well back then they were filthy socialists and didn't call themselves the clan. It wasn't until after the Civil War when filthy Democrats formally started the KKK. There are 13 Congressional Volumes which detail how the KKK was formed as the terrorist wing of the Democratic Party for the express purpose of taking back their statehouses from BLACK REPUBLICANS through force and intimidation.

Full text of "Report of the Joint select committee appointed to inquire in to the condition of affairs in the late insurrectionary states : so far as regards the execution of the laws, and the safety of the lives and property of the citizens of the United States and Testimony taken"

Black political participation in Reconstruction | The Gilder Lehrman Institute of American History

"Blacks made up the overwhelming majority of southern Republican voters, forming a coalition with “carpetbaggers” and “scalawags” (derogatory terms referring to recent arrivals from the North and southern white Republicans, respectively). A total of 265 African-American delegates were elected, more than 100 of whom had been born into slavery. Almost half of the elected black delegates served in South Carolina and Louisiana, where blacks had the longest history of political organization; in most other states, African Americans were underrepresented compared to their population. In all, 16 African Americans served in the U.S. Congress during Reconstruction; more than 600 more were elected to the state legislatures, and hundreds more held local offices across the South."

Articles: The Secret Racist History of the Democratic Party

"In almost every Southern state, the Republican Party was actually formed by blacks, not whites. Case in point is Houston, Texas, where 150 blacks and 20 whites created the Republican Party of Texas. But perhaps most telling of all with respect to the Republican Party’s achievements is that black men were continuously elected to public office. For example, 42 blacks were elected to the Texas legislature, 112 in Mississippi, 190 in South Carolina, 95 representatives and 32 senators in Louisiana, and many more elected in other states -- all Republican. Democrats didn’t elect their first black American to the U.S. House until 1935!"

"By the mid-1860s, the Republican Party’s alliance with blacks had caused a noticeable strain on the Democrats’ struggle for electoral significance in the post-Civil War era. This prompted the Democratic Party in 1866 to develop a new pseudo-secret political action group whose sole purpose was to help gain control of the electorate. The new group was known simply by their initials, KKK (Ku Klux Klan). This political relationship was nationally solidified shortly thereafter during the 1868 Democratic National Convention when former Civil War General Nathan Bedford Forrest was honored as the KKK’s first Grand Wizard. But don’t bother checking the Democratic National Committee’s website for proof. For many years, even up through the 2012 Presidential Election, the DNC had omitted all related history from 1848 to 1900 from their timeline -- half a century worth! Nevertheless, this sordid history is still well documented. There’s even a thirteen-volume set of Congressional investigations dating from 1872 detailing the Klan’s connection to the Democratic Party. The official documents, titled Report of the Joint Select Committee to Inquire Into the Condition of Affairs in the Late Insurrectionary States, irrefutably proves the KKK’s prominent role in the Democratic Party."

September 3, 1868

25 African-Americans in the Georgia legislature, all Republicans, were expelled by the Democrat majority. They were later reinstated by a Republican-controlled Congress.

September 12, 1868

Civil rights activist Tunis Campbell and all other African-Americans in the Georgia Senate – all Republicans – were expelled by the Democrat majority. They were later be reinstated by a Republican-controlled Congress.

October 7, 1868

Republicans denounce the Democratic Party’s national campaign theme: “This is a white man’s country: Let white men rule”.

October 22, 1868

While campaigning for re-election, U.S. Rep. James Hinds (R-AR) is assassinated by Democrat terrorists who were organized as the Ku Klux Klan.

December 10, 1869

Republican Gov. John Campbell of Wyoming Territory signs First-in-nation law granting women the right to vote and to hold public office.

February 3, 1870

After passing the U.S. House of Representatives with 98% Republican support and 97% Democrat opposition, the Republicans’ 15th Amendment is ratified, which granted the right to vote to all Americans regardless of race.

May 31, 1870

President Ulysses S. Grant signs the Republicans’ Enforcement Act, providing stiff penalties for depriving civil rights to any Americans.

June 22, 1870

The Republican-controlled Congress creates the U.S. Department of Justice to safeguard the civil rights of African-Americans against Democrats in the South.

September 6, 1870

Women vote in Wyoming during the first election after women’s suffrage legislation was signed into law by Republican Gov. John Campbell.

February 28, 1871

Republican Congress passes Enforcement Act providing federal protection for African-American voters.

April 20, 1871

The Republican-controlled Congress enacts the Ku Klux Klan Act, outlawing Democratic Party-affiliated terrorist groups which oppressed African-Americans.

October 10, 1871

Following warnings by Philadelphia Democrats against blacks voting, African-American Republican civil rights activist Octavius Catto was murdered by a Democratic Party operative, and his military funeral was attended by thousands.

October 18, 1871

After violence was committed against Republicans in South Carolina, Republican President Ulysses S. Grant deploys U.S. troops to combat Democrat terrorists who formed the Ku Klux Klan.

November 18, 1872

Susan B. Anthony arrested for voting, after boasting to Elizabeth Cady Stanton that she voted for “the Republican ticket, straight”.

January 17, 1874

Armed Democrats seize the Texas state government, ending Republican efforts to racially integrate the Texas government.

September 14, 1874

Democrat white supremacists seize Louisiana statehouse in attempt to overthrow the racially-integrated administration of Republican Governor William Kellogg. 27 people were killed.

March 1, 1875

The Civil Rights Act of 1875, guaranteeing access to public accommodations without regard to race, was signed by Republican President Ulysses S. Grant. The law passed with 92% Republican support over 100% Democrat opposition.

"Black men participated in Georgia politics for the first time during Congressional Reconstruction (1867-76). Between 1867 and 1872 sixty-nine African Americans served as delegates to the constitutional convention (1867-68) or as members of the state legislature.

Democrats used terror, intimidation, and the Ku Klux Klan to "redeem" the state. One quarter of the black legislators were killed, threatened, beaten, or jailed. In the December 1870 elections the Democrats won an overwhelming victory. In 1906 W. H. Rogers from McIntosh County was the last black legislator to be elected before blacks were legally disenfranchised in 1908."

Black Legislators during Reconstruction

"One of the most vivid examples of collusion between the KKK and Democratic Party was when Democrat Senator Wade Hampton ran for the governorship of South Carolina in 1876. The Klan put into action a battle plan to help Democrats win, stating: “Every Democrat must feel honor bound to control the vote of at least one Negro by intimidation…. Democrats must go in as large numbers…and well-armed.” An issue of Harper’s Weekly that same year illustrated this mindset with a depiction of two white Democrats standing next to a black man while pointing a gun at him. At the bottom of the depiction is a caption that reads: “Of Course He Wants To Vote The Democratic Ticket!”"

"The Klan’s primary mission was to intimidate Republicans -- black and white. In South Carolina, for example, the Klan even passed out “push cards” -- a hit list of 63 (50 blacks and 13 whites) “Radicals” of the legislature pictured on one side and their names listed on the other. Democrats called Republicans radicals not just because they were a powerful political force, but because they allowed blacks to participate in the political process. Apparently, this was all too much for Democrats to bear.

By 1875, Republicans, both black and white, had worked together to pass over two dozen civil rights bills. Unfortunately, their momentum came to a screeching halt in 1876 when the Democratic Party took control of Congress. Hell bent on preventing blacks from voting, Southern Democrats devised nearly a dozen shady schemes, like requiring literacy tests, misleading election procedures, redrawing election lines, changing polling locations, creating white-only primaries, and even rewriting state constitutions. Talk about disenfranchising black voters!

There were also lynchings, but not what you might think. According to the University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Law, between 1882 and 1964 an estimated 3,446 blacks and 1,279 whites were lynched at the hands of the Klan."


Articles: The Secret Racist History of the Democratic Party