Billo_Really
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Funny how you pick and choose, which "unprovoked invasion", you're for and against?His unprovoked invasion of...
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Funny how you pick and choose, which "unprovoked invasion", you're for and against?His unprovoked invasion of...
When Congress ratified Article 51 of the UN Charter, thus giving it the same weight as our Constitution, dumbass!When does the US need permission from the UN, the UN that put murderous dictators on human rights panels?
Hmmm, dumbfuck....where are all these stories of Americans stealing Iraqi oil???
I'm sure NPR, msnbc, kooks like you could find info for your bullshit claims.
Come on kook, Buuuuuuuush is making millions off Iraqi oil is your start.
That's a fact not too many people talk about.
Sanctions on Iraq that had prevented them for selling oil on the open market, were about to be lifted and the last thing they were going to do with their 4th largest reserve, was sell it to the US.
So we went in there to find out why they had "our oil", under "their sand"!
That's the trouble Bezerk,they only tell you what they think you need to know......well as an Australian,(we can spot a bullshitter from a mile away) Bush was at the time treating the world like Court Jesters but regrettably (and it was hard to watch) He and his Cohorts were treating the American People like Village Idiots and most lapped it up,incredibly.steve
But Tardy, you didn't read the other posts, until somebody put up UN Res.51, did you.When does the US need permission from the UN, the UN that put murderous dictators on human rights panels?
You are insane, probably from that syphilis finally eating away your brain like it did with Hitler. Lucky for the world you only control your TV remote and your blow up doll, unlike hitler.
JRK continues his fail on the Boad.
The invasion was unnecessary, was not sanctioned by the UN, was illegal, and did not result in a reconstituted ME in harmony with the USA. It led to a huge deficit, injured the economy, and the rejection of neo-con thuggery in politics.
He has not carried one single point as women are forced back into sharia submission and Iraq drifts into alliance with Iran,
JRK should never be allowed to in the presence of our military,
Back a couple dozen pages, I posted how the CIA and MI6 put up the Shah's regime, and CIA support for Saddam started, in 1958. All excessive US presence does is start the dictators, help them persist, and then the US egregiously bombs and shoots up with D.U.
Hmmm, dumbfuck....where are all these stories of Americans stealing Iraqi oil???
I'm sure NPR, msnbc, kooks like you could find info for your bullshit claims.
Come on kook, Buuuuuuuush is making millions off Iraqi oil is your start.
That's a fact not too many people talk about.
Sanctions on Iraq that had prevented them for selling oil on the open market, were about to be lifted and the last thing they were going to do with their 4th largest reserve, was sell it to the US.
So we went in there to find out why they had "our oil", under "their sand"!
That was the whole idea. Now we don't have to steal it because "we" OWN it!
"So if we own it then why aren't gas prices cheaper now in America," you may ask?
DUH!
Gas is NEVER going to be cheap again in America. The American investors who drove the U.S. government and the puppets in power at the time into invading Iraq aren't anymore interested in giving their profits away for any "good of the nation" than the Saudi Royal Family or Hugo Chavez!
In addition to having the Iraqi puppet government in the United States' back pocket we now have a HUGE military footprint in Iraq (in the form of four sprawling military bases) from which we can launch tactical nuclear strikes anywhere in the southeastern hemisphere without the need for those pesky, easily detected ICBM's!
Soon ALL the oil in the world will be OURS and we will be RICH! FILTHY RICH!!!!
Well....maybe not US or the nation.....but SOMEBODY will be lol!
Don't look for them to spread the wealth to you though through cheaper gas.....or cheaper anything really!
All they need from you is your blind unflinching support and a firm grasp on your ankles!![]()
Don't be a butt nutt!
Think about what you are saying dude!
You can't argue that the U.S. went to war in Iraq to protect women from Sharia law!
That's just ridiculous and insults everything our soldiers have died for!
Nor can you say that the U.S. is somehow "exempt" from the UN, the Geneva Conventions, OR the Nuremburg Tribunals.
You have to remember that WE have always been the most powerful signatory on ALL of these international laws!
In all of them.....WE have led the world.
What message does it send the rest of the world when WE break or just diss our OWN laws?
TardyZerk continues to babble nothing new or worthy. Absolutely sinks the neo-con Bush positions on the war all by himself. He is worse than JRK and that is saying a bunch.
The US went to Iraq, again, to prove to Sunnis, how GW Bush can count to two.
Two towers, two wars, against Iraq, two wars, going on at the same time, against Sunnis.
Problem is, GW and all the wingnuts in creation don't add their collective IQ to three. They make up for the obvious lack of brains, with raw greed.
What a fucking moron....the US never gave the UN authority over the US military and its actions. The US tries to work through the UN which Bush did, but when it is clear the UN is corrupt and the US military needs to take action.....then we take action.
Do we need permission from the UN to defend ourselves, dumbfuck? If China attacks Hawaii do we need the UN to give us the OK to shoot back?![]()
Did Obamination get UN approval to enter Pakistan and kill UBL and his friends??? I don't recall the UN giving Obamination approval to go after terrorists, especially going into a third party country. Come on dumbfuck, you need to connect all your dots.
When Congress ratified Article 51 of the UN Charter, thus giving it the same weight as our Constitution, dumbass!When does the US need permission from the UN, the UN that put murderous dictators on human rights panels?
Experts are still divided over the issue of whether the use of force by the U.S. was legal in the invasion of Iraq. There will be doubt in the minds of all INTELLIGENT people probably forever.
Experts disagree as to whether the war was legal under international law. Under Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter, to which the United States is a party, a nation's use of force is authorized under only two circumstances: in individual or collective self-defense, as outlined in Article 51, or pursuant to a Security Council resolution, as outlined in Article 42.
The War on Iraq: Legal Issues
Funny that it's so cut and dry in the minds of simpletons like you!
Bush and his daddy's friends had no patience with the UN route so their "justification" in attacking in spite of agreement among the other major UN nations that weapons inspections were working, was to grasp at the straw that Saddam had not honored the cease fire agreement put in place in 1991
The United States, backed by Britain and Spain, began to seek a second U.N. resolution to declare Iraq in material breach of its obligation to disarm. Veto-wielding permanent members France, Russia and China, as well as a number of other members, preferred to give inspectors more time on the premise that inspections were working. Up against a deeply divided Council, the U.S. pulled its proposal on March 17.
The U.S. administration argued that it had enough legal support for its subsequent military action, based on resolution 1441 as well as two previous Security Council resolutions: 678, which in 1990 authorized the U.N. to take military action against Iraq, and 687, which set the terms of the cease-fire at the end of the 1991 Gulf War. Administration lawyers said that because Iraq never lived up to the terms of the cease-fire, the use force was now valid.
At that point I believe they made their first mistake in the giant shell game that would become justification for war.
You see, a long time ago there was this pesky little guy with a funny moustache in Germany who decided he wanted to take over ALL of Europe. He began invading other nations who hadn't even attacked him first! He justified his actions by saying they were in the "national defense" of his homeland.
As a result, once the funny little guy was driven from power and forced to kill himself the United States sat down with a bunch of leaders from other countries and wrote some international LAWS to make sure that NO more funny little men could EVER invade other sovereign nations who hadn't attacked them using the ruse that it was for their own national security to do so!
Then all those years later ANOTHER funny little man (G.W. Bush) pulled the SAME thing in spite of the laws!!!
So....cool....we "liberated" Iraq from a brutal regime.....maybe.
It was still illegal because no WMD existed as claimed meaning Iraq was NEVER a threat to our national security and a "preemptive" strike was never necessary!
TardyZerk continues to babble nothing new or worthy. Absolutely sinks the neo-con Bush positions on the war all by himself. He is worse than JRK and that is saying a bunch.
So do you know what laws Bush violated? Come on and help your fellow idiots out here, they're looking bad. Also, what about the "bad things" we're doing in Iraq today like say stealing their oil. Didn't we just invade Iraq to "steal" their oil. Can you help out with the claims of secret US combat troops still in Iraq? Didn't Obamination say we pulled out the combat troops, but your boyfriends here say otherwise. Come on truck driver, you can do it.![]()
Saddam's party would never have come to power in Iraq without help from the CIA.
The concern of US elites over the control of "greatest material prize in history" is the root cause of all the war crimes committed in the Middle East since the end of WWII.
Not the help, the cooperation.
In intelligence that is a big difference.
CIA is an intelligence operation, not a policy and strategy entity. CIA has no military power.
It's all semantics in that regard.
Let Bush fly to Paris or The Hague without agreements of non-arrest and only a few body guards, and you will find out immediately what laws he is alleged to have violated. BHO continues to wind down the incredibles messes in Iraq and Afghanistan created by the neo-cons. Once Romney replaces him, very little presence will remain in either nation. Watch and learn, little one.
TardyZerk continues to babble nothing new or worthy. Absolutely sinks the neo-con Bush positions on the war all by himself. He is worse than JRK and that is saying a bunch.
So do you know what laws Bush violated? Come on and help your fellow idiots out here, they're looking bad. Also, what about the "bad things" we're doing in Iraq today like say stealing their oil. Didn't we just invade Iraq to "steal" their oil. Can you help out with the claims of secret US combat troops still in Iraq? Didn't Obamination say we pulled out the combat troops, but your boyfriends here say otherwise. Come on truck driver, you can do it.![]()
Let Bush fly to Paris or The Hague without agreements of non-arrest and only a few body guards, and you will find out immediately what laws he is alleged to have violated. BHO continues to wind down the incredibles messes in Iraq and Afghanistan created by the neo-cons. Once Romney replaces him, very little presence will remain in either nation. Watch and learn, little one.
TardyZerk continues to babble nothing new or worthy. Absolutely sinks the neo-con Bush positions on the war all by himself. He is worse than JRK and that is saying a bunch.
So do you know what laws Bush violated? Come on and help your fellow idiots out here, they're looking bad. Also, what about the "bad things" we're doing in Iraq today like say stealing their oil. Didn't we just invade Iraq to "steal" their oil. Can you help out with the claims of secret US combat troops still in Iraq? Didn't Obamination say we pulled out the combat troops, but your boyfriends here say otherwise. Come on truck driver, you can do it.![]()
Dumbfuck, what are these laws? Name them. Also, which European country is going to arrest a former US POTUS protected by the US Secret Service. Can you say an act of war, terrorism by kidnapping an American citizen like our former leader in Europe? Good God you're dumber than shit. You liberals are kooks of the highest order among tin foil hat club members.
Saddam's party would never have come to power in Iraq without help from the CIA.
The concern of US elites over the control of "greatest material prize in history" is the root cause of all the war crimes committed in the Middle East since the end of WWII.
Not the help, the cooperation.
In intelligence that is a big difference.
CIA is an intelligence operation, not a policy and strategy entity. CIA has no military power.
For instance if the CIA didn't have the power to "shape" policy then how was Congress led to war with MOST of the C.I.A.'s top officials advising against it?
Oh yeah.....Donald Rumsfeld/Dick Cheney's clandestine "Office of Special Plans was cherrypicking raw, unvetted C.I.A. intel and presenting it to Congress as the polished product using the qualifier that "all of the other intel agencies around the world concur."
What they neglected to tell Congress was that all of the other world intel agencies were simply "concurring" on the same garbage they were presenting to Congress!
Quite a loop huh?
It did influence policy to the tune of over three thousand dead American soldiers though.
Tune in next for someone to chime in "yeah....but Clinton saw the same intel back in (fill in the blank)."
So what? He didn't use it to invade Iraq did he?
Maybe he was a little smarter than G.W. ya thank?
1) REMOVE SADDAM
DONE
2) STABILIZE COUNTRY
DONE
3) HAVE A REPUBLIC BORN OF THESE EVENTS
DONE
Am missing something here?