WIKILEAKED: Bin Laden Body Not Buried At Sea...

[paulitician]

you were attacked because you have a rep for posting bullshit....if that not asking for it ,I don't know what is!

That's a matter of opinion.

no it's fact...your stuff is 999.999% bullshit

And your proof is?

 

[daws101]

That's a matter of opinion.

no it's fact...your stuff is 999.999% bullshit

And your proof is?

you're breathing right?

 

[paulitician]

no it's fact...your stuff is 999.999% bullshit

And your proof is?

you're breathing right?

I'll wait for your proof.

 

[ERGO]

No, Bush wouldn't have been that smart, but Karl Rove would have been. This wasn't Bush per se. This isn't a conspiracy theory, as many of you like to automatically claim when there's something put out there that doesn't comport to your indoctrinated views... opinions that are gotten and formed from the propaganda outlets. Some people will label something "conspiracy theory" because it runs counter to their indoctrination and it's trendy.

There were audio/visual experts that examined the OBL videos and they concluded they were faked. Have you even looked into it? This didn't require tens of thousands of people either.
also, What's your opinion about all the news in 2002 about OBL's poor health and the government experts and news pundits belief at that time that he died due to his poor health (bad kidneys and marfan syndrome)

who were these audio/visual experts?
lot's of people have bad kidneys, OBL had access to the best medical care money could buy.
Marfan syndrome (also called Marfan's syndrome) is a genetic disorder of the connective tissue. People with Marfan's tend to be unusually tall, with long limbs and long, thin fingers.

It is inherited as a dominant trait. It is carried by a gene called FBN1, which encodes a connective protein called fibrillin-1.[1][2] People have a pair of FBN1 genes. Because it is dominant, people who have inherited one affected FBN1 gene from either parent will have Marfan's.

Marfan syndrome has a range of expressions, from mild to severe. The most serious complications are defects of the heart valves and aorta. It may also affect the lungs, eyes, the dural sac surrounding the spinal cord, skeleton and the hard palate.

no where does it say it's fatal.
so again it's specious speculation .

I didn't say marfan syndrome was fatal did I?, but if you have bad kidneys and don't get kidney dialysis it can be fatal. OBL [HAD] the best care money could buy but he wasn't being provided the best care money could provide being chased around the mountains of Afghanistan. Kidney dialysis machines require electricity to operate and I don't believe OBL had the electricity to even run one living in caves.

Top U.S. Bin Laden Expert: Confession Video “Bogus”

by Kevin Barrett, Welcome to the Muslim-Christian-Jewish Alliance for 9/11 Truth

2/17/06

Was Osama Bin Laden responsible for 9/11?

The Bush Administration says yes, citing a grainy, badly-edited videotape that surfaced in December, 2001. In that tape, a fat guy who vaguely resembles Bin Laden chortles about the success of the 9/11 attacks. (In earlier interviews, Bin Laden had denied responsibility for 9/11, once even deploring the loss of civilian life in the attacks and calling them un-Islamic.)

Is the famous “confession video” genuine? Despite Bush’s insistence that the tape is authentic, America’s top academic Bin Laden expert has finally gone on the record, joining numerous other experts. “It’s bogus,” says Professor Bruce Lawrence, head of Duke University’s Religious Studies program.

Lawrence, author of Messages to the World: The Statements of Osama Bin Laden, offered his historic debunking of the administration’s lie in an interview with Kevin Barrett (“Dynamic Duo,” gcnlive.com, 2/16/2007, first hour). The interview marked Lawrence’s first major public statement since he made headlines last year by suggesting that recent Osama tapes are hoaxes and that the real Osama Bin Laden may be dead.

Why has the Bush Administration been lying for more than five years by telling us that this preposterously bad hoax is a genuine “confession video”? Lawrence, citing informants in the US intelligence apparatus’s Bin Laden units, said they all know the tape is fake, adding that the hoax has been kept alive because it is politically useful to those who wish to deflect attention from “conspiracy theories” about 9/11.

If Professor Lawrence is right—and anyone with eyes can see that he is, simply by comparing the overweight impostor in the Fatty Bin Laden bogus confession video to other pictures of Osama Bin Laden—

the Bush Administration, by repeatedly citing the tape as authentic, is clearly guilty of obstruction of justice at best, high treason and conspiracy to mass murder at worst. Since the FBI now tells us that Osama Bin Laden is “not wanted for 9/11” because there is “no hard evidence” connecting him to the 9/11 attacks, and since US intelligence personnel all know the “confession tape” is a Bush Administration hoax, it should not be difficult to nail the perpetrators of this outrageous, stunningly sloppy cover-up of the crime of the century.

It is time for Congress or an appropriate judicial authority to mount an investigation of the Fatty Bin Laden bogus confession video. Where did this tape come from? Who was responsible for the administration’s claim that it is authentic, despite widespread knowledge in relevant intelligence agencies that it is bogus? If Bruce Lawrence is correct in asserting that US intelligence personnel know the tape is fake, we need to put them, along with Bush and Cheney, under oath and find out why our government has been lying so outrageously for more than five years in order to obstruct justice by shielding the real perpetrators of 9/11.

Top Bin Laden Expert: The Tapes are Fakes

Physics911, by Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven, 9/11/2001

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Osama Tape Appears Fake, Experts Conclude

Osama Tape Appears Fake, Experts Conclude


Global Research, June 1, 2006

 

[ERGO]

US Government Contractor Claims “Al-Qaeda” Has Confirmed Bin Laden Fairytale

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
May 6, 2011


One of the groups behind the endless fake Bin Laden tapes and a contractor for the US government tells us that “Al-Qaeda” has confirmed the death of Osama. Although Bin Laden has been dead since 2001, the fact the US government is having to rely on the notorious SITE Institute to prop up the crumbling Bin Laden fable that was manufactured on Sunday night shows how desperate the White House has become in its bid to sell the public on more terror fearmongering.

“Al Qaeda released a statement on jihadist forums confirming the death of its leader, Osama bin Laden, according to SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors militant messages,” reports CNN.

“The statement, translated by SITE, lauded the late militant, threatened to take action against the United States, and urged Pakistanis to “rise up and revolt.”

SITE’s claim that “Al-Qaeda” has confirmed the official White House version of events concerning the death of Bin Laden, thereby lending presumed credence to a narrative that has quickly attracted derision and suspicion even amongst mainstream journalists, is about as credible as if Barney the Purple Dinosaur had made a statement assuring us that Osama was killed on Sunday evening.

SITE is a US military-industrial complex front and has been caught red-handed releasing fake Al-Qaeda tapes on numerous occasions.

The SITE organization is nothing more than a contractor for the U.S. government, receiving some $500,000 a year annually from Uncle Sam, the majority of which is paid for by U.S. taxpayers. The group was founded by Rita Katz, the daughter of an executed Israeli spy. Katz has worked closely with the Department of Justice, Department of the Treasury, and the Department of Homeland Security.

SITE’s website content was found to be largely copied from the U.S. State Department. “SITE’s “Terrorism Library, on cursory investigation, looks to be a straight data scrape from the U.S. Department of State’s Patterns of Global Terrorism – 2003, Appendix B,” notes SourceWatch. This organization is nothing more than a dummy group which acts as a conduit for Pentagon propaganda.

Everything about SITE indicates that it is nothing more than a trojan horse that is regularly used by the military-industrial complex to release staged Al-Qaeda videotapes as part of the ongoing propaganda offensive to justify the brutal, pointless and manufactured war on terror.

SITE was miraculously able to obtain the highly suspicious September 2007 Bin Laden video tape before it was released by the so-called Al-Qaeda group who had made it.

SITE has been positively endorsed by Blackwater USA, the infamous military contractor co-founded by former Navy Seal Erik Prince that was found to have been involved in several massacres of innocent Iraqi civilians.

SITE’s continued existence relies on fleecing the American taxpayer by way of contracts with the U.S. government and constantly invoking and hyping the hugely exaggerated threat of alleged Al-Qaeda groups in the Middle East.

The organization has proven itself adept at releasing Al-Qaeda propaganda tapes at the most politically expedient times for both the Bush and Obama administrations. For example, just two days after it was revealed that Al-Qaeda mastermind and CIA stooge Anwar Al-Awlaki had met with Pentagon top brass only a matter of months after 9/11, SITE released a video tape of Awlaki re-affirming his commitment to global jihad and praising the actions of the Fort Hood shooter and the Christmas Day bomber.

On the same weekend, SITE released a tape of Adam (Pearlman) Gadahn also praising Farouk AbdulMutallab and Faisal Shazad, the alleged Times Square bomber. Adam Pearlman is blatantly an Mossad spy who is releasing fake Al-Qaeda videos to bolster the geopolitical agenda of both the United States and Israel.

We are being asked to believe that Pearlman, a former hardcore Jewish Zionist who once wrote stinging essays condemning Muslims as “bloodthirsty terrorists,” and enjoyed regularly beating up Arabs is now preaching the cause of global jihad. Pearlman’s grandfather was none other than the late Carl K. Pearlman; a prominent Jewish urologist in Orange County. Carl Pearlman was also a member of the board of directors of the Anti-Defamation League, which was caught spying on Americans for Israel in 1993.

SITE claimed it obtained the Pearlman video from As-Sahab, Al-Qaeda’s supposed media arm. As we previously documented, SITE’s sister organization IntelCenter was caught adding its logo to a supposed Al-Qaeda tape at the same time as the As-Sahab logo was added, indicating the two organizations were one and the same.

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Since the official narrative behind the Bin Laden myth has quickly crumbled as the White House flip-flops on the actual account of what happened, in addition to being caught staging the “situation room” photos which were erroneously passed off as depicting Obama and Hillary Clinton watching the assassination of Osama live on TV, holding together the flimsy fairytale of the Bin Laden fable is proving difficult.

That’s why we can expect more lurid fearmongering to distract from increasing suspicion towards the events of Sunday evening, like the supposed Al-Qaeda plot to derail trains in the U.S. on the tenth anniversary of 9/11, a plan described as “aspirational more than operational,” and one already rendered mythical based on the fact that no trains even operate at speeds over 500mph in the United States.


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[ERGO]

Researcher: Bin Laden's beard is real, video is not

by Robert Vamosi September 12, 2007 11:11 AM PDT



Digital evidence supports the theory that Al-Qaida is recycling old footage to create new messages.
On the Friday before the sixth anniversary of 9/11, Osama bin Laden appeared in a new video, his first since prior to the U.S. presidential elections in 2004. In analyzing the video, Neal Krawetz of Hactor Factor, an expert on digital image forensics, said in his latest blogs that the video contained many visual and audio splices, and that all of the modifications were of very low quality.
Most striking is bin Laden's beard, which has been gray in recent images. For this video it is black. "As far as my tools can detect, there has been no image manipulation of the bin Laden portion of the image beyond contrast adjustment. His beard really does appear to be that color." The Washington Post has the full video here.
Full-Length Osama bin Laden Video
Krawetz says the inner frame of bin Laden was resaved at least twice, and not at the same time. The images show fine horizontal stripes on bin Laden and a background indicating these came from interlaced video sources. In contrast, the text elements, such as the As-Sahab logo, appear to be from non-interlaced sources.
The September 7 video shows bin Laden dressed in a white hat, white shirt and yellow sweater. Krawetz notes "this is the same clothing he wore in the 2004-10-29 video. In 2004 he had it unzipped, but in 2007 he zipped up the bottom half. Besides the clothing, it appears to be the same background, same lighting, and same desk. Even the camera angle is almost identical." Krawetz also notes that "if you overlay the 2007 video with the 2004 video, his face has not changed in three years--only his beard is darker and the contrast on the picture has been adjusted."

Click here (Al Qaeda Snorts Flies - The Hacker Factor Blog) and mouse over the image to see Krawetz's 75 percent error level analysis of one image. The white frame around Azzim reveals that his video was composited against the drawing of the World Trade Center being attacked. As Krawetz presented at this year's Black Hat conference in Las Vegas,(Al-Qaida manipulates videos, images, says Black Hat speaker | News Blogs - CNET News) al-Qaida has a history of doctoring background either to present propaganda or simply to disguise locations. In a separate interview, Krawetz talks with CNET News.com about some of the tools he used in his analysis. (A picture worth a thousand lies - CNET News)

 

[Conservative]

you seem to be doing a lot of posting in this thread, even though you claim it takes away your right to free speech.

Never said it did. You're obviously lying again. But go figure?

Liar. Proven liar...

i vote this thread be moved to Conspiracy Theory... all in favor?

Yes i know, Free Speech is a real bummer huh?

Yes i know, Free Speech is a real bummer huh?

did i somehow restrict your free speech by stating this thread is in the wrong section?

Yes, it's a cowardly underhanded attempt. It's an old Message Board tactic. Free Speech means hearing things you don't like to hear. That's what our country is all about.

so, you do not have access to threads in the Conspiracy Theory section? Or, those threads are restricted in some way that prevents you from posting there?

Stop. Just stop it. You're attempting to squash Free Speech and you know it. You can't fool me. You're only fooling yourself.

See? Here you are... exercising your right to free speech. No hindrances in sight.

Banishment is a form of squashing Free Speech. But you know that. You got your wish. I got banished. Happy now?

 

[Liability]

WTF?

That non-story story is not even worth reading much less premising a thread on.

 

[washamericom]

The story is unsourced. If this was a wikileak, RT could have simply linked it. They didn't.

With USMB's premier Circus Barker starting the thread...Are you surprised?

thought you were

 

[bodecea]

WTF?

That non-story story is not even worth reading much less premising a thread on.

C'mon...join us in a good laugh at the OP.

 

[washamericom]

WTF?

That non-story story is not even worth reading much less premising a thread on.

not even enough to premise a thread on....

......in "conspiracy theories"

......not even worth reading


beautiful....

 

[HUGGY]

WTF?

That non-story story is not even worth reading much less premising a thread on.

But... But..... But...... But.....

Pauli said it was TRUE!!!!!!

 

[paulitician]

you seem to be doing a lot of posting in this thread, even though you claim it takes away your right to free speech.

Never said it did. You're obviously lying again. But go figure?

Liar. Proven liar...

Banishment is a form of squashing Free Speech. But you know that. You got your wish. I got banished. Happy now?

Stalker pissant. Link to where i stated my Free Speech has been violated. I said you and your fellow pissants were trying to stifle Speech by bitchin about my post being moved. And that is what you and your fellow pissants' intention was. But looks like that didn't work out too well for you. You can go ahead and lie about it if you want to though. Whatever. You're just a typical angry stalker now. And you're not a real Conservative either.

 

[daws101]

who were these audio/visual experts?
lot's of people have bad kidneys, OBL had access to the best medical care money could buy.
Marfan syndrome (also called Marfan's syndrome) is a genetic disorder of the connective tissue. People with Marfan's tend to be unusually tall, with long limbs and long, thin fingers.

It is inherited as a dominant trait. It is carried by a gene called FBN1, which encodes a connective protein called fibrillin-1.[1][2] People have a pair of FBN1 genes. Because it is dominant, people who have inherited one affected FBN1 gene from either parent will have Marfan's.

Marfan syndrome has a range of expressions, from mild to severe. The most serious complications are defects of the heart valves and aorta. It may also affect the lungs, eyes, the dural sac surrounding the spinal cord, skeleton and the hard palate.

no where does it say it's fatal.
so again it's specious speculation .

I didn't say marfan syndrome was fatal did I?, but if you have bad kidneys and don't get kidney dialysis it can be fatal. OBL [HAD] the best care money could buy but he wasn't being provided the best care money could provide being chased around the mountains of Afghanistan. Kidney dialysis machines require electricity to operate and I don't believe OBL had the electricity to even run one living in caves.

Top U.S. Bin Laden Expert: Confession Video “Bogus”

by Kevin Barrett, Welcome to the Muslim-Christian-Jewish Alliance for 9/11 Truth

2/17/06

Was Osama Bin Laden responsible for 9/11?

The Bush Administration says yes, citing a grainy, badly-edited videotape that surfaced in December, 2001. In that tape, a fat guy who vaguely resembles Bin Laden chortles about the success of the 9/11 attacks. (In earlier interviews, Bin Laden had denied responsibility for 9/11, once even deploring the loss of civilian life in the attacks and calling them un-Islamic.)

Is the famous “confession video” genuine? Despite Bush’s insistence that the tape is authentic, America’s top academic Bin Laden expert has finally gone on the record, joining numerous other experts. “It’s bogus,” says Professor Bruce Lawrence, head of Duke University’s Religious Studies program.

Lawrence, author of Messages to the World: The Statements of Osama Bin Laden, offered his historic debunking of the administration’s lie in an interview with Kevin Barrett (“Dynamic Duo,” gcnlive.com, 2/16/2007, first hour). The interview marked Lawrence’s first major public statement since he made headlines last year by suggesting that recent Osama tapes are hoaxes and that the real Osama Bin Laden may be dead.

Why has the Bush Administration been lying for more than five years by telling us that this preposterously bad hoax is a genuine “confession video”? Lawrence, citing informants in the US intelligence apparatus’s Bin Laden units, said they all know the tape is fake, adding that the hoax has been kept alive because it is politically useful to those who wish to deflect attention from “conspiracy theories” about 9/11.

If Professor Lawrence is right—and anyone with eyes can see that he is, simply by comparing the overweight impostor in the Fatty Bin Laden bogus confession video to other pictures of Osama Bin Laden—

the Bush Administration, by repeatedly citing the tape as authentic, is clearly guilty of obstruction of justice at best, high treason and conspiracy to mass murder at worst. Since the FBI now tells us that Osama Bin Laden is “not wanted for 9/11” because there is “no hard evidence” connecting him to the 9/11 attacks, and since US intelligence personnel all know the “confession tape” is a Bush Administration hoax, it should not be difficult to nail the perpetrators of this outrageous, stunningly sloppy cover-up of the crime of the century.

It is time for Congress or an appropriate judicial authority to mount an investigation of the Fatty Bin Laden bogus confession video. Where did this tape come from? Who was responsible for the administration’s claim that it is authentic, despite widespread knowledge in relevant intelligence agencies that it is bogus? If Bruce Lawrence is correct in asserting that US intelligence personnel know the tape is fake, we need to put them, along with Bush and Cheney, under oath and find out why our government has been lying so outrageously for more than five years in order to obstruct justice by shielding the real perpetrators of 9/11.

Top Bin Laden Expert: The Tapes are Fakes

Physics911, by Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven, 9/11/2001

- - -

Osama Tape Appears Fake, Experts Conclude

Osama Tape Appears Fake, Experts Conclude


Global Research, June 1, 2006

any so called info from any 911 titled group is invalid as it is based on a false premise with no evidence to corroborate it.

 

[washamericom]

so who's the rube here obama or ron paul ??

obama looked panicked at his fake press conference today...

 

[daws101]

And your proof is?

you're breathing right?

I'll wait for your proof.

I need no other proof , if you're breathing ,you're hard at work posting bullshit!

 

[paulitician]

you're breathing right?

I'll wait for your proof.

I need no other proof , if you're breathing ,you're hard at work posting bullshit!

So you have no proof. That's what i thought. You can go ahead and STFU now.

 

[daws101]

Never said it did. You're obviously lying again. But go figure?

Liar. Proven liar...

Stalker pissant. Link to where i stated my Free Speech has been violated. I said you and your fellow pissants were trying to stifle Speech by bitchin about my post being moved. And that is what you and your fellow pissants' intention was. But looks like that didn't work out too well for you. You can go ahead and lie about it if you want to though. Whatever. You're just a typical angry stalker now. And you're not a real Conservative either.

paulie trips over his dick and.....

 

[washamericom]

i have no like for wikileaks, i wish julian assange dead, the sooner the better.

but the osama bin laden story has been "laid to rest" as much as the birther issue...

the un couldn't find saddam's weapons of mass destruction.... lol... what do you all think ayatolah and ahmadinejad are planning ??

 

[daws101]

I'll wait for your proof.

I need no other proof , if you're breathing ,you're hard at work posting bullshit!

So you have no proof. That's what i thought. You can go ahead and STFU now.

as stated before no other proof is necessary