Will Blacks Abandon the Democrat Party?

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Sure they had children and their children had children. Assuming the four million is correct, what percentage was in the southern states?

Assuming??
Man. Two bits in your brain? You're not even conceding the actual numbers?

The Southerners even accept their own Census / slave count.

Kee-rist!



And yes, in some states there were MAJORITY SLAVE POPULATIONS.


State ---Free Population ---Slave Population (1860)

Mississippi -354,674 ----436,631

S. Carolina- 301,302 --402,406

Georgia ---505,088 ----462,198

Alabama --519,121 ----435,080

Louisiana --376,276 ----331,726

Texas ---421,649 ----182,566

Arkansas --324,335--- 111,115

North Carolina -661,563 ---331,099

Tennessee--- 834,082--- 275,719

Florida ---78,679 ----61,745

Kentucky --930,201 ---225,483

Virginia --1,105,453 ---490,865

(US Census Numbers)

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Where did you pull that four million number from? Your ass?

The most comprehensive analysis of shipping records over the course of the slave trade is the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, edited by professors David Eltis and David Richardson. (While the editors are careful to say that all of their figures are estimates, I believe that they are the best estimates that we have, the proverbial “gold standard” in the field of the study of the slave trade.) Between 1525 and 1866, in the entire history of the slave trade to the New World, according to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the New World. 10.7 million survived the dreaded Middle Passage, disembarking in North America, the Caribbean and South America.
And how many of these 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North Only about 388,000. That’s right: a tiny percentage.

How Many Slaves Landed in the U.S. The African Americans Many Rivers to Cross PBS
How Many Slaves Came to America Fact vs. Fiction - The Root

Holy crap. You post incessently on Civil War topics and you don't even know the Census Count of 1860 ??

Jezuz F'cking Aye.

There were nearly four MILLION slaves in the South in 1860.

Out of a population of Nine million.

You DIDN'T know that?????????????????????

Are you saying that blacks represented 44 percent of the US population in 1860?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

No back peddling here.

Blacks soldiers were enlisted in the CSA. That's a fact no matter how much you wish it not to be.

That doesnt bother me at all because I know they were enlisted under pain of death or death of a loved one. No one believes that there were hordes of uncle toms fighting for the south. Come on convict. Lets be real.

No one but you has said anything about "hordes of uncle toms fighting for the south",

I said blacks did in fact enlist and fight for the CSA. I was right and you were wrong.

Thanks for finally manning up and admitting it.

No Blacks fought for the confederacy that you can prove. So far all I have seen are forgeries.

Everything is a forgery to you if it's written by a white man. But how you can ignore the writing of Frederick Douglas is beyond me. I guess you consider him an "uncle tom"

Not everything is forgery. There were actually Black slave owners in the US. That's not a forgery and they have evidence to back it up. Where is your evidence?

No. I consider him a politician and politicians all lie to make a point.

So Fredrick Douglass is a liar, according to a known liar. Interesting

 

[Asclepias]

Sure they had children and their children had children. Assuming the four million is correct, what percentage was in the southern states?

Assuming??
Man. Two bits in your brain? You're not even conceding the actual numbers?

The Southerners even accept their own Census / slave count.

Kee-rist!



And yes, in some states there were MAJORITY SLAVE POPULATIONS.


State ---Free Population ---Slave Population (1860)

Mississippi -354,674 ----436,631

S. Carolina- 301,302 --402,406

Georgia ---505,088 ----462,198

Alabama --519,121 ----435,080

Louisiana --376,276 ----331,726

Texas ---421,649 ----182,566

Arkansas --324,335--- 111,115

North Carolina -661,563 ---331,099

Tennessee--- 834,082--- 275,719

Florida ---78,679 ----61,745

Kentucky --930,201 ---225,483

Virginia --1,105,453 ---490,865

(US Census Numbers)

Lonestar is a total idiot. You have to excuse him. It this point its like beating up someone in a wheelchair.

 

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Where did you pull that four million number from? Your ass?

The most comprehensive analysis of shipping records over the course of the slave trade is the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, edited by professors David Eltis and David Richardson. (While the editors are careful to say that all of their figures are estimates, I believe that they are the best estimates that we have, the proverbial “gold standard” in the field of the study of the slave trade.) Between 1525 and 1866, in the entire history of the slave trade to the New World, according to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the New World. 10.7 million survived the dreaded Middle Passage, disembarking in North America, the Caribbean and South America.
And how many of these 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North Only about 388,000. That’s right: a tiny percentage.

How Many Slaves Landed in the U.S. The African Americans Many Rivers to Cross PBS
How Many Slaves Came to America Fact vs. Fiction - The Root

Holy crap. You post incessently on Civil War topics and you don't even know the Census Count of 1860 ??

Jezuz F'cking Aye.

There were nearly four MILLION slaves in the South in 1860.

Out of a population of Nine million.

You DIDN'T know that?????????????????????

Are you saying that blacks represented 44 percent of the US population in 1860?

Can't you Read???

There were nearly four MILLION slaves in the South in 1860.

Out of a population of Nine million.

Have a small child read it to you if you can't.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Sure they had children and their children had children. Assuming the four million is correct, what percentage was in the southern states?

Assuming??
Man. Two bits in your brain? You're not even conceding the actual numbers?

The Southerners even accept their own Census / slave count.

Kee-rist!



And yes, in some states there were MAJORITY SLAVE POPULATIONS.


State ---Free Population ---Slave Population (1860)

Mississippi -354,674 ----436,631

S. Carolina- 301,302 --402,406

Georgia ---505,088 ----462,198

Alabama --519,121 ----435,080

Louisiana --376,276 ----331,726

Texas ---421,649 ----182,566

Arkansas --324,335--- 111,115

North Carolina -661,563 ---331,099

Tennessee--- 834,082--- 275,719

Florida ---78,679 ----61,745

Kentucky --930,201 ---225,483

Virginia --1,105,453 ---490,865

(US Census Numbers)

Lonestar is a total idiot. You have to excuse him. It this point its like beating up someone in a wheelchair.

I'm an idiot?

HAHAHAHAHA

I stated there were indeed black CSA members, two of you morons finally conceded. It's obvious who the idiots are.

 

[Asclepias]

Sure they had children and their children had children. Assuming the four million is correct, what percentage was in the southern states?

Assuming??
Man. Two bits in your brain? You're not even conceding the actual numbers?

The Southerners even accept their own Census / slave count.

Kee-rist!



And yes, in some states there were MAJORITY SLAVE POPULATIONS.


State ---Free Population ---Slave Population (1860)

Mississippi -354,674 ----436,631

S. Carolina- 301,302 --402,406

Georgia ---505,088 ----462,198

Alabama --519,121 ----435,080

Louisiana --376,276 ----331,726

Texas ---421,649 ----182,566

Arkansas --324,335--- 111,115

North Carolina -661,563 ---331,099

Tennessee--- 834,082--- 275,719

Florida ---78,679 ----61,745

Kentucky --930,201 ---225,483

Virginia --1,105,453 ---490,865

(US Census Numbers)

Lonestar is a total idiot. You have to excuse him. It this point its like beating up someone in a wheelchair.

I'm an idiot?

HAHAHAHAHA

I stated there were indeed black CSA members, two of you morons finally conceded. It's obvious who the idiots are.

No you argued about a forged picture portraying Black confederate soldiers like a moron until you finally figured out 2 pages later it was already proven as a hoax. You have been back pedaling steadily since then. Remember this?

Doesn't prove the picture wasn't an accurate portrayal of black confederates.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Where did you pull that four million number from? Your ass?

The most comprehensive analysis of shipping records over the course of the slave trade is the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, edited by professors David Eltis and David Richardson. (While the editors are careful to say that all of their figures are estimates, I believe that they are the best estimates that we have, the proverbial “gold standard” in the field of the study of the slave trade.) Between 1525 and 1866, in the entire history of the slave trade to the New World, according to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the New World. 10.7 million survived the dreaded Middle Passage, disembarking in North America, the Caribbean and South America.
And how many of these 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North Only about 388,000. That’s right: a tiny percentage.

How Many Slaves Landed in the U.S. The African Americans Many Rivers to Cross PBS
How Many Slaves Came to America Fact vs. Fiction - The Root

Holy crap. You post incessently on Civil War topics and you don't even know the Census Count of 1860 ??

Jezuz F'cking Aye.

There were nearly four MILLION slaves in the South in 1860.

Out of a population of Nine million.

You DIDN'T know that?????????????????????

Are you saying that blacks represented 44 percent of the US population in 1860?

Can't you Read???

There were nearly four MILLION slaves in the South in 1860.

Out of a population of Nine million.

Have a small child read it to you if you can't.

So the majority of the slaves were in the North. The same people who you say were against slavery, so much so that they declared a war to stop it. Makes perfect sense!

Where are you getting your nine million number from?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Sure they had children and their children had children. Assuming the four million is correct, what percentage was in the southern states?

Assuming??
Man. Two bits in your brain? You're not even conceding the actual numbers?

The Southerners even accept their own Census / slave count.

Kee-rist!



And yes, in some states there were MAJORITY SLAVE POPULATIONS.


State ---Free Population ---Slave Population (1860)

Mississippi -354,674 ----436,631

S. Carolina- 301,302 --402,406

Georgia ---505,088 ----462,198

Alabama --519,121 ----435,080

Louisiana --376,276 ----331,726

Texas ---421,649 ----182,566

Arkansas --324,335--- 111,115

North Carolina -661,563 ---331,099

Tennessee--- 834,082--- 275,719

Florida ---78,679 ----61,745

Kentucky --930,201 ---225,483

Virginia --1,105,453 ---490,865

(US Census Numbers)

Lonestar is a total idiot. You have to excuse him. It this point its like beating up someone in a wheelchair.

I'm an idiot?

HAHAHAHAHA

I stated there were indeed black CSA members, two of you morons finally conceded. It's obvious who the idiots are.

No you argued about a forged picture portraying Black confederate soldiers like a moron until you finally figured out 2 pages later it was already proven as a hoax. You have been back pedaling steadily since then.

No dumbass I was arguing that whether the photo was real or fake didn't matter. The fact is there were black confederate soldiers.

Now I understand that lying is part of who you are so it's hard to fault you on your habitual lying.

 

[Asclepias]

Sure they had children and their children had children. Assuming the four million is correct, what percentage was in the southern states?

Assuming??
Man. Two bits in your brain? You're not even conceding the actual numbers?

The Southerners even accept their own Census / slave count.

Kee-rist!



And yes, in some states there were MAJORITY SLAVE POPULATIONS.


State ---Free Population ---Slave Population (1860)

Mississippi -354,674 ----436,631

S. Carolina- 301,302 --402,406

Georgia ---505,088 ----462,198

Alabama --519,121 ----435,080

Louisiana --376,276 ----331,726

Texas ---421,649 ----182,566

Arkansas --324,335--- 111,115

North Carolina -661,563 ---331,099

Tennessee--- 834,082--- 275,719

Florida ---78,679 ----61,745

Kentucky --930,201 ---225,483

Virginia --1,105,453 ---490,865

(US Census Numbers)

Lonestar is a total idiot. You have to excuse him. It this point its like beating up someone in a wheelchair.

I'm an idiot?

HAHAHAHAHA

I stated there were indeed black CSA members, two of you morons finally conceded. It's obvious who the idiots are.

No you argued about a forged picture portraying Black confederate soldiers like a moron until you finally figured out 2 pages later it was already proven as a hoax. You have been back pedaling steadily since then.

No dumbass I was arguing that whether the photo was real or fake didn't matter. The fact is there were black confederate soldiers.

Now I understand that lying is part of who you are so it's hard to fault you on your habitual lying.

It does matter. You dont have proof that its a fact. I'll give you the same chance I gave greenbean. Post a verifed portrait of a Black confederate soilder that fought in the Civil War.

 

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Where did you pull that four million number from? Your ass?

The most comprehensive analysis of shipping records over the course of the slave trade is the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, edited by professors David Eltis and David Richardson. (While the editors are careful to say that all of their figures are estimates, I believe that they are the best estimates that we have, the proverbial “gold standard” in the field of the study of the slave trade.) Between 1525 and 1866, in the entire history of the slave trade to the New World, according to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the New World. 10.7 million survived the dreaded Middle Passage, disembarking in North America, the Caribbean and South America.
And how many of these 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North Only about 388,000. That’s right: a tiny percentage.

How Many Slaves Landed in the U.S. The African Americans Many Rivers to Cross PBS
How Many Slaves Came to America Fact vs. Fiction - The Root

Holy crap. You post incessently on Civil War topics and you don't even know the Census Count of 1860 ??

Jezuz F'cking Aye.

There were nearly four MILLION slaves in the South in 1860.

Out of a population of Nine million.

You DIDN'T know that?????????????????????

Are you saying that blacks represented 44 percent of the US population in 1860?

Can't you Read???

There were nearly four MILLION slaves in the South in 1860.

Out of a population of Nine million.

Have a small child read it to you if you can't.

So the majority of the slaves were in the North. The same people who you say were against slavery, so much so that they declared a war to stop it. Makes perfect sense!

Where are you getting your nine million number from?

What.in.the.fuck?

Are you drunk?

 

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Former Governor, President of the Provisional Confederate Congress, and Speaker of Congress Howell Cobb of Georgia, even in the last throes, moribund, the dead, dying confederacy of January 1865, said:

"The most pernicious idea that has been suggested since the war began...you cannot make soldiers of slaves or slaves of soldiers;

The day you make soldiers of them is the beginning of the revolution. If slaves will make good soldiers, our whole theory of slavery is wrong."

 

[Asclepias]

Former Governor, President of the Provisional Confederate Congress, and Speaker of Congress Howell Cobb of Georgia, even in the last throes, moribund, the dead, dying confederacy of January 1865, said:

"The most pernicious idea that has been suggested since the war began...you cannot make soldiers of slaves or slaves of soldiers;

The day you make soldiers of them is the beginning of the revolution. If slaves will make good soldiers, our whole theory of slavery is wrong."

How prophetic. I never knew about this comment.

 

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Confederate Veteran, June 1915 - "“If there were any such troops [black Confederates] enlisted, there is no official record of same”a) “The whole Black Confederate soldier thing is bogus” - Ludwell Johnson of the Museum of the Confederacy

"“It'’s B.S., wishful thinking.”" - Edwin Bearss, historian emeritus, National Park Service

"“They were never mustered into the Confederate Army,." James Hollandsworth, Associate Provost at the University of Southern Mississippi in Hattiesburg.

" “It’s mostly moonshine They’'ve taken a core of true information and ballooned it all out of proportion.”" - James McPherson, Princeton professor emeritus and author of the Pulitzer Prize-winning Civil War history Battle Cry of Freedom. -

"Of course If I documented 12 [black Confederates out of 150,000 CSA soldiers researched] someone would start adding zeros." Robert Krick, author of 10 books on the Confederacy

Ervin Jordan Jr. - a black archivist and assistant professor from the University of Virginia. In Black Confederates and Afro-Yankees in Civil War Virginia, were he proved there were black confederates, he admits that he hasn'’t uncovered tens of thousands of black Confederates in wartime Virginia - in fact, he'’s found barely a fraction of that.

"There was no black Confederate unit in Mobile, it was a Creole unit. It would be a long, long stretch to say that it was a black unit. There was no counterpart to the black divisions that fought on the Union side.”" - Sheila Flanagan, assistant director of the Museum of Mobile. - Mobile Register, August 23, 1998

"Many thousands of Jews did slave labor in military production factories in Nazi Germany - but that certainly didn’'t make them “thousands of Jewish soldiers fighting for Germany.””" Truman R. Clark, professor of history, Tomball College. - The Houston Chronicle, Aug 29, 1999

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Assuming??
Man. Two bits in your brain? You're not even conceding the actual numbers?

The Southerners even accept their own Census / slave count.

Kee-rist!



And yes, in some states there were MAJORITY SLAVE POPULATIONS.


State ---Free Population ---Slave Population (1860)

Mississippi -354,674 ----436,631

S. Carolina- 301,302 --402,406

Georgia ---505,088 ----462,198

Alabama --519,121 ----435,080

Louisiana --376,276 ----331,726

Texas ---421,649 ----182,566

Arkansas --324,335--- 111,115

North Carolina -661,563 ---331,099

Tennessee--- 834,082--- 275,719

Florida ---78,679 ----61,745

Kentucky --930,201 ---225,483

Virginia --1,105,453 ---490,865

(US Census Numbers)

Lonestar is a total idiot. You have to excuse him. It this point its like beating up someone in a wheelchair.

I'm an idiot?

HAHAHAHAHA

I stated there were indeed black CSA members, two of you morons finally conceded. It's obvious who the idiots are.

No you argued about a forged picture portraying Black confederate soldiers like a moron until you finally figured out 2 pages later it was already proven as a hoax. You have been back pedaling steadily since then.

No dumbass I was arguing that whether the photo was real or fake didn't matter. The fact is there were black confederate soldiers.

Now I understand that lying is part of who you are so it's hard to fault you on your habitual lying.

It does matter. You dont have proof that its a fact. I'll give you the same chance I gave greenbean. Post a verifed portrait of a Black confederate soilder that fought in the Civil War.

I have all the proof I need. I have the words of a former slave. No matter what evidence is presented you will not believe it because it comes from a white man.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Where did you pull that four million number from? Your ass?

The most comprehensive analysis of shipping records over the course of the slave trade is the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, edited by professors David Eltis and David Richardson. (While the editors are careful to say that all of their figures are estimates, I believe that they are the best estimates that we have, the proverbial “gold standard” in the field of the study of the slave trade.) Between 1525 and 1866, in the entire history of the slave trade to the New World, according to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the New World. 10.7 million survived the dreaded Middle Passage, disembarking in North America, the Caribbean and South America.
And how many of these 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North Only about 388,000. That’s right: a tiny percentage.

How Many Slaves Landed in the U.S. The African Americans Many Rivers to Cross PBS
How Many Slaves Came to America Fact vs. Fiction - The Root

Holy crap. You post incessently on Civil War topics and you don't even know the Census Count of 1860 ??

Jezuz F'cking Aye.

There were nearly four MILLION slaves in the South in 1860.

Out of a population of Nine million.

You DIDN'T know that?????????????????????

Are you saying that blacks represented 44 percent of the US population in 1860?

Can't you Read???

There were nearly four MILLION slaves in the South in 1860.

Out of a population of Nine million.

Have a small child read it to you if you can't.

So the majority of the slaves were in the North. The same people who you say were against slavery, so much so that they declared a war to stop it. Makes perfect sense!

Where are you getting your nine million number from?

What.in.the.fuck?

Are you drunk?

Why was the question not properly posed?

 

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Lonestar is a total idiot. You have to excuse him. It this point its like beating up someone in a wheelchair.

I'm an idiot?

HAHAHAHAHA

I stated there were indeed black CSA members, two of you morons finally conceded. It's obvious who the idiots are.

No you argued about a forged picture portraying Black confederate soldiers like a moron until you finally figured out 2 pages later it was already proven as a hoax. You have been back pedaling steadily since then.

No dumbass I was arguing that whether the photo was real or fake didn't matter. The fact is there were black confederate soldiers.

Now I understand that lying is part of who you are so it's hard to fault you on your habitual lying.

It does matter. You dont have proof that its a fact. I'll give you the same chance I gave greenbean. Post a verifed portrait of a Black confederate soilder that fought in the Civil War.

I have all the proof I need. I have the words of a former slave. No matter what evidence is presented you will not believe it because it comes from a white man.

A body servant.

He served as a SLAVE, fuckstick!

So did the others. They HAD to -- they were SLAVES!!

What in the hell do you think you were trying to prove with that???

Nobody is disputing slaves were forced to serve the slavemasters in the war fought for the furtherance of slavery. Man.

 

[Asclepias]

Lonestar is a total idiot. You have to excuse him. It this point its like beating up someone in a wheelchair.

I'm an idiot?

HAHAHAHAHA

I stated there were indeed black CSA members, two of you morons finally conceded. It's obvious who the idiots are.

No you argued about a forged picture portraying Black confederate soldiers like a moron until you finally figured out 2 pages later it was already proven as a hoax. You have been back pedaling steadily since then.

No dumbass I was arguing that whether the photo was real or fake didn't matter. The fact is there were black confederate soldiers.

Now I understand that lying is part of who you are so it's hard to fault you on your habitual lying.

It does matter. You dont have proof that its a fact. I'll give you the same chance I gave greenbean. Post a verifed portrait of a Black confederate soilder that fought in the Civil War.

I have all the proof I need. I have the words of a former slave. No matter what evidence is presented you will not believe it because it comes from a white man.

You are a bonafide idiot. I dont think you actually read the writing. It plainly says "body servant and voluntary battle aide" and "aided confederate armies". In fact the word soldier is only listed once and thats in reference to white soldiers. Dude you are not helping your case at all.

 

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Meanwhile, 500,000 slaves fled to northern lines, and 185,000 blacks served valiantly for the Union cause and 33,000 blacks died as regulars in the army and navy, fighting against those who wished to preserve slavery.

 

[Asclepias]

I'm an idiot?

HAHAHAHAHA

I stated there were indeed black CSA members, two of you morons finally conceded. It's obvious who the idiots are.

No you argued about a forged picture portraying Black confederate soldiers like a moron until you finally figured out 2 pages later it was already proven as a hoax. You have been back pedaling steadily since then.

No dumbass I was arguing that whether the photo was real or fake didn't matter. The fact is there were black confederate soldiers.

Now I understand that lying is part of who you are so it's hard to fault you on your habitual lying.

It does matter. You dont have proof that its a fact. I'll give you the same chance I gave greenbean. Post a verifed portrait of a Black confederate soilder that fought in the Civil War.

I have all the proof I need. I have the words of a former slave. No matter what evidence is presented you will not believe it because it comes from a white man.

A body servant.

He served as a SLAVE, fuckstick!

So did the others. They HAD to -- they were SLAVES!!

What in the hell do you think you were trying to prove with that???

Nobody is disputing slaves were forced to serve the slavemasters in the war fought for the furtherance of slavery. Man.

I'm laughing so hard I have the hiccups! Lonestar is a fucking moron.