Will Blacks Abandon the Democrat Party?

[EriktheRed]

And the symbol of that mindset: the good ol' Stars and Bars.

slaves were imported for over 80 years under the stars and stripes...
slaves were imported for 4 years...4 years ....under the stars and bars.

stars and stripes is the predominant symbol of slavery and oppression.

Are you seriously arguing this???

 

[Rotagilla]

And the symbol of that mindset: the good ol' Stars and Bars.

slaves were imported for over 80 years under the stars and stripes...
slaves were imported for 4 years...4 years ....under the stars and bars.

stars and stripes is the predominant symbol of slavery and oppression.

Are you seriously arguing this???

Which part is incorrect?

 

[EriktheRed]

It is the symbol of a group of states who tried to leave the United States in order to protect the institution of enslaving black humans.

That's not why.
The leaders of the south knew slavery was fading as the industrial revolution was beginning...but cling to what you were taught in public school. It's so trendy!

Utter horseshit.

If you read these declarations of secession from just a few of the Confederate states, it's clear that keeping the "institution" of slavery intact was the primary motivator.

Here's what Texas had to say, for example:

[Texas] was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery-- the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits-- a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time.

It also says this further down:

In all the non-slave-holding States, in violation of that good faith and comity which should exist between entirely distinct nations, the people have formed themselves into a great sectional party, now strong enough in numbers to control the affairs of each of those States, based upon an unnatural feeling of hostility to these Southern States and their beneficent and patriarchal system of African slavery, proclaiming the debasing doctrine of equality of all men, irrespective of race or color-- a doctrine at war with nature, in opposition to the experience of mankind, and in violation of the plainest revelations of Divine Law. They demand the abolition of negro slavery throughout the confederacy, the recognition of political equality between the white and negro races, and avow their determination to press on their crusade against us, so long as a negro slave remains in these States.

Isn't that just peachy?

The Declaration of Causes of Seceding States

What about the other 24 or so paragraphs?

How nice to cherry pick a small part of the Declaration of Causes..... for one's own benefit.

Doesn't matter. In all of these Causes, the continuation of human bondage is prominent in the reasons these states wanted to secede.

And the symbol of that mindset: the good ol' Stars and Bars.

Surely you're not stupid enough to suggest that no other issue but this one was prominent in the other secessionist states Causes.

If so, then I suggest you go back and read them all once more.

Doesn't matter.

 

[EriktheRed]

And the symbol of that mindset: the good ol' Stars and Bars.

slaves were imported for over 80 years under the stars and stripes...
slaves were imported for 4 years...4 years ....under the stars and bars.

stars and stripes is the predominant symbol of slavery and oppression.

Are you seriously arguing this???

Which part is incorrect?

You talking about importation as if that makes a difference is what's so funny.

 

[Rotagilla]

And the symbol of that mindset: the good ol' Stars and Bars.

slaves were imported for over 80 years under the stars and stripes...
slaves were imported for 4 years...4 years ....under the stars and bars.

stars and stripes is the predominant symbol of slavery and oppression.

Are you seriously arguing this???

Which part is incorrect?

You talking about importation as if that makes a difference is what's so funny.

How does it make a difference? What tangent are you off on now?


Whatever..the fact remains that more slaves were imported under the stars and stripes than under the stars and bars.

 

[EriktheRed]

And the symbol of that mindset: the good ol' Stars and Bars.

slaves were imported for over 80 years under the stars and stripes...
slaves were imported for 4 years...4 years ....under the stars and bars.

stars and stripes is the predominant symbol of slavery and oppression.

Are you seriously arguing this???

Which part is incorrect?

You talking about importation as if that makes a difference is what's so funny.

How does it make a difference? What tangent are you off on now?


Whatever..the fact remains that more slaves were imported under the stars and stripes than under the stars and bars.

"How does it make a difference?" You tell me, since you're the one who brought it up.

I'm saying it (importation) doesn't, since the practice of keeping and selling slaves kept right on going.

 

[paperview]

And the symbol of that mindset: the good ol' Stars and Bars.

slaves were imported for over 80 years under the stars and stripes...
slaves were imported for 4 years...4 years ....under the stars and bars.

stars and stripes is the predominant symbol of slavery and oppression.

Imported? Importation was prohibited internationally. Even in their own Confederate Constitution. Don't you read?

By that time they didn't need to import them you idiot.

They were breeding them, they had near four million and had literal breeding farms.

No "importation" necessary.

 

[EriktheRed]

And the symbol of that mindset: the good ol' Stars and Bars.

slaves were imported for over 80 years under the stars and stripes...
slaves were imported for 4 years...4 years ....under the stars and bars.

stars and stripes is the predominant symbol of slavery and oppression.

Imported? Importation was prohibited internationally. Even in their own Confederate Constitution. Don't you read?

By that time they didn't need to import them you idiot.

They were breeding them, they had near four million and had literal breeding farms.

No "importation" necessary.

Yup, pretty much my point, too.

So why did you even feel the need to focus on importation, Rota?

 

[Rotagilla]

And the symbol of that mindset: the good ol' Stars and Bars.

slaves were imported for over 80 years under the stars and stripes...
slaves were imported for 4 years...4 years ....under the stars and bars.

stars and stripes is the predominant symbol of slavery and oppression.

Imported? Importation was prohibited internationally. Even in their own Confederate Constitution. Don't you read?

By that time they didn't need to import them you idiot.

They were breeding them, they had near four million and had literal breeding farms.

No "importation" necessary.

More slaves were imported under the stars and stripes than under the stars and bars.
That's a fact.

 

[NYcarbineer]

And the symbol of that mindset: the good ol' Stars and Bars.

slaves were imported for over 80 years under the stars and stripes...
slaves were imported for 4 years...4 years ....under the stars and bars.

stars and stripes is the predominant symbol of slavery and oppression.

Are you seriously arguing this???

Which part is incorrect?

You talking about importation as if that makes a difference is what's so funny.

How does it make a difference? What tangent are you off on now?


Whatever..the fact remains that more slaves were imported under the stars and stripes than under the stars and bars.

Congress banned the slave trade in 1807.

 

[Rotagilla]

slaves were imported for over 80 years under the stars and stripes...
slaves were imported for 4 years...4 years ....under the stars and bars.

stars and stripes is the predominant symbol of slavery and oppression.

Are you seriously arguing this???

Which part is incorrect?

You talking about importation as if that makes a difference is what's so funny.

How does it make a difference? What tangent are you off on now?


Whatever..the fact remains that more slaves were imported under the stars and stripes than under the stars and bars.

Congress banned the slave trade in 1807.

More slaves were imported under the stars and stripes than under the stars and bars.

 

[NYcarbineer]

And the symbol of that mindset: the good ol' Stars and Bars.

slaves were imported for over 80 years under the stars and stripes...
slaves were imported for 4 years...4 years ....under the stars and bars.

stars and stripes is the predominant symbol of slavery and oppression.

Imported? Importation was prohibited internationally. Even in their own Confederate Constitution. Don't you read?

By that time they didn't need to import them you idiot.

They were breeding them, they had near four million and had literal breeding farms.

No "importation" necessary.

More slaves were imported under the stars and stripes than under the stars and bars.
That's a fact.

The southern states had insisted on an article in the Constitution that prevented Congress from banning the slave trade for 20 years.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Are you seriously arguing this???

Which part is incorrect?

You talking about importation as if that makes a difference is what's so funny.

How does it make a difference? What tangent are you off on now?


Whatever..the fact remains that more slaves were imported under the stars and stripes than under the stars and bars.

Congress banned the slave trade in 1807.

More slaves were imported under the stars and stripes than under the stars and bars.

Only because the southern states had gotten the slave trade protected.

 

[paperview]

Any farmer will tell you it's cheaper to breed them than to import them.

Animals. That's how the southerns saw these human beings they put on auction blocks to trade, sell and rip babies from their mothers arms.

 

[Asclepias]

And the symbol of that mindset: the good ol' Stars and Bars.

slaves were imported for over 80 years under the stars and stripes...
slaves were imported for 4 years...4 years ....under the stars and bars.

stars and stripes is the predominant symbol of slavery and oppression.

Imported? Importation was prohibited internationally. Even in their own Confederate Constitution. Don't you read?

By that time they didn't need to import them you idiot.

They were breeding them, they had near four million and had literal breeding farms.

No "importation" necessary.

Yup, pretty much my point, too.

So why did you even feel the need to focus on importation, Rota?

He needed a diversion probably. Its a tactic simpletons come up with all the time. its instinctive.

 

[paperview]

And the symbol of that mindset: the good ol' Stars and Bars.

slaves were imported for over 80 years under the stars and stripes...
slaves were imported for 4 years...4 years ....under the stars and bars.

stars and stripes is the predominant symbol of slavery and oppression.

Imported? Importation was prohibited internationally. Even in their own Confederate Constitution. Don't you read?

By that time they didn't need to import them you idiot.

They were breeding them, they had near four million and had literal breeding farms.

No "importation" necessary.

Yup, pretty much my point, too.

So why did you even feel the need to focus on importation, Rota?

He needed a diversion probably. Its a tactic simpletons come up with all the time. its instinctive.

On the other thread he had absolutely no clue as to the difference between secession and revolution.

He deemed them synonymous.

It's tragic just how simple some of these Lost Causers minds actually work.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Any farmer will tell you it's cheaper to breed them than to import them.

Animals. That's how the southerns saw these human beings they put on auction blocks to trade, sell and rip babies from their mothers arms.

The slave population was large enough to be self sustaining in numbers by the early 1800's.

 

[EriktheRed]

Are you seriously arguing this???

Which part is incorrect?

You talking about importation as if that makes a difference is what's so funny.

How does it make a difference? What tangent are you off on now?


Whatever..the fact remains that more slaves were imported under the stars and stripes than under the stars and bars.

Congress banned the slave trade in 1807.

More slaves were imported under the stars and stripes than under the stars and bars.

And?

 

[EriktheRed]

And the symbol of that mindset: the good ol' Stars and Bars.

slaves were imported for over 80 years under the stars and stripes...
slaves were imported for 4 years...4 years ....under the stars and bars.

stars and stripes is the predominant symbol of slavery and oppression.

Imported? Importation was prohibited internationally. Even in their own Confederate Constitution. Don't you read?

By that time they didn't need to import them you idiot.

They were breeding them, they had near four million and had literal breeding farms.

No "importation" necessary.

Yup, pretty much my point, too.

So why did you even feel the need to focus on importation, Rota?

He needed a diversion probably. Its a tactic simpletons come up with all the time. its instinctive.

Yeah, he never answered the question, just repeated the same irrelevant fact over again.

 

[paperview]

Any farmer will tell you it's cheaper to breed them than to import them.

Animals. That's how the southerns saw these human beings they put on auction blocks to trade, sell and rip babies from their mothers arms.

The slave population was large enough to be self sustaining in numbers by the early 1800's.

Yep. That's why the Southerners *wanted* the importation of slaves to be abolished. It actually hurt the market for them. They knew it. Breeding was where the money was.

Why import them when you could make them here in America? And make them better! So thought the slavers.

A strong slave stud would be forced to inseminate hundreds of the the strongest and sturdiest of slave women. It was the south's early form of eugenics.

Course the slavers also had a pop at the women too. Wives even accepted it as a given. When you own them as property, raping the slaves, even the pubescent children, was pretty standard fare.