Woman suing Obamacare exchange-dies

[itfitzme]

If the VA model is followed she will get approval for her treatment in two years.

 

[ron4342]

Linda Rolain's enrollment troubles kept her from treatment in January for an aggressive brain tumor, has died.

Woman in class-action lawsuit against Xerox dies | Las Vegas Review-Journal

Rolain’s husband, Robert, said the couple began trying to sign up in November, well ahead of the Dec. 15 deadline for January coverage. After wrestling with repeated sign-up problems, the Rolains bought a plan that took effect in March. But they said Xerox staffers miscommunicated the policy’s effective date, so they didn’t know until May that they had coverage.

Linda Rolain was first diagnosed with a brain tumor in early 2014, after a seizure in late 2013. Robert Rolain said in a June 19 news conference at the downtown Las Vegas offices of Callister, Immerman and Associates that his wife’s care was delayed for months because of their insurance troubles.

Robert Rolain alleges his wife’s tumor went from treatable in winter to fatal in spring as the couple fought for coverage.

Linda Rolain was admitted to hospice care in early June.

This is SOCIALISM.. Take a good look.

Hummm..... The fact it says she was "trying" to sign up for ACA suggests that she was not covered by any insurance. If there wasn't any insurance and if there was no ACA she would have not been in any better condition. Had things remained the same she would have been denied coverage due to a pre-existing condition and the end result would have been the same. She would have died.
It is regretable that there was a sign-up problem but bear in mind that ACA is one of the largest and most complicated government plans in history. Each state has its own plans and somehow millions and millions of people are supposed to sign up without any problems. That is unreasonable. Out of the 8 million who have signed up for ACA have you ever wondered how many lives were saved and whose stories did not make it into the paper. Maybe if the gop had chosen to help write the plan rather than doing everything in their power to make it fail there might have been fewer sign up problems and Linda might be alive today.
Personally, I find people who condemn Obama for all the problems dispicable. It is especially dispicable when they are doing everything in their power to make ACA fail. Hoping for their fellow Americans to die so they can blame the president is as un-American as a person can get. However, it is what I have come to expect from a gop that has virtually zero American values. Frankly I am surprised that the gop and al Qaida haven't tried to join forces. They certainly deserve one another.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Well first of all, it's not about government because a private company screwed up on the paperwork, not any govt - state or federal. That makes it not about Obamacare. Also, there's no proof that this woman had insurance to begin with. So, if she never had insurance, how is Obamacare to blame for her death?

Another idiot that thinks that a contractor mistake doesn't in any way impact the people that hired the contractor. The next time someone gets sued because a contractor screws up and dumps toxic waste in the water supply I expect you to step in and defend the corporation that hired the contractor.

Actually, I don't.

So....still no proof that she was previously insured and lost her insurance because it didn't meet the minimum standard set by the ACA.

I never claimed she was insured, but thanks for admitting I am right with your attempt to deflect.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The extent to which you are wrong is only exceeded by the extent to which you don't know you're wrong.

Because, if you hire a contractor that screws up the environment,we know the government will never go after you.

The extent to which you are wrong is so great that it will echo through the entire universe for all eternity.

Your assertion is that capitalists cannot do business with any government or they stop being capitalists. That is absurd.

That would mean that a privately owned caterer would stop being a capitalist enterprise if it agreed to cater a school board luncheon.

I didn't say they stop being capitalists because they do business with the government. I said that anything the government is involved in is not capitalism. Inderstand your confusion though, you actually think we have a fee market.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

No...they paid them to set up the exchanges. Xerox staff missinformed her. Xerox =/= government. In fact it's a publicly traded multinational corporation, the exact opposite of government.

Yeah, we get it, rule number one, the government is never wrong.

Xerox being at fault here means the government is never wrong? Did you put that 'if, then' all together yourself, or did you have to bring in a team of stupidity builders to assist you?

Like I keep pointing out, the government is happy to hold the people who hire a contractor responsible for any mistakes he makes while under their employment, all I am doing is applying the same standards to them. You, on the other hand, want to pretend the government is not responsible for the mistakes the people it hires makes.

Keep looking stupid though, it suits you.

 

[KissMy]

This is so so sad, I bet she wins her lawsuit against Xerox.

And may I ask, would the hospitals and her doctor NOT TREAT HER due to not having Insurance? I've always had insurance so I truly am ignorant on this topic, but even before the ACA, if a person like this woman did not have health care insurance, would hospitals and Doctors actually NOT HELP and not treat this woman's critical medical condition? Can they REFUSE to treat a person who may die without such treatment, unless they have the cash or health insurance? How does it all work if you don't have Insurance with Doctors and Hospitals?

Or due to the high cost of her surgery and treatment needed, her and her husband chose to not have the treatment needed until their Insurance quagmire was settled, because they didn't want to face bankruptcy?

Even if there was no coverage, EMTALA still should have saved this lady, at least until she was covered. She also could not afford private sector coverage so the OP is a huge fail. She waited until 3 months after diagnosis to apply for insurance, again a huge fail for the OP. She underwent brain surgery & still died anyhow. The lawsuit is against a wallstreet corporation, not the government, again a huge fail for the OP.

Linda Rolain died from complications following brain surgery

 

[NYcarbineer]

Because, if you hire a contractor that screws up the environment,we know the government will never go after you.

The extent to which you are wrong is so great that it will echo through the entire universe for all eternity.

Your assertion is that capitalists cannot do business with any government or they stop being capitalists. That is absurd.

That would mean that a privately owned caterer would stop being a capitalist enterprise if it agreed to cater a school board luncheon.

I didn't say they stop being capitalists because they do business with the government. I said that anything the government is involved in is not capitalism. Inderstand your confusion though, you actually think we have a fee market.

Nobody except you thinks that capitalism and government cannot co-exist.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yeah, we get it, rule number one, the government is never wrong.

Xerox being at fault here means the government is never wrong? Did you put that 'if, then' all together yourself, or did you have to bring in a team of stupidity builders to assist you?

Like I keep pointing out, the government is happy to hold the people who hire a contractor responsible for any mistakes he makes while under their employment, all I am doing is applying the same standards to them. You, on the other hand, want to pretend the government is not responsible for the mistakes the people it hires makes.

Keep looking stupid though, it suits you.

You want to make this an indictment of government as if government is uniquely culpable for hiring incompetent private businesses. That is absurd.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Maybe the words of the lawyer actually handling the lawsuit might help:

Callister noted that the lawsuit is not an attack on the Affordable Care Act or the state’s insurance exchange.

“This has nothing to do with the ACA. This is 100 percent about Xerox, who won the bid from the state of Nevada to create this exchange. And they’ve failed. They absolutely failed,” Callister told the Review-Journal.

Lawsuit Filed Against Nevada Health Exchange « CBS Las Vegas

 

[Shanty]

This is so so sad, I bet she wins her lawsuit against Xerox.

And may I ask, would the hospitals and her doctor NOT TREAT HER due to not having Insurance? I've always had insurance so I truly am ignorant on this topic, but even before the ACA, if a person like this woman did not have health care insurance, would hospitals and Doctors actually NOT HELP and not treat this woman's critical medical condition? Can they REFUSE to treat a person who may die without such treatment, unless they have the cash or health insurance? How does it all work if you don't have Insurance with Doctors and Hospitals?

Or due to the high cost of her surgery and treatment needed, her and her husband chose to not have the treatment needed until their Insurance quagmire was settled, because they didn't want to face bankruptcy?

Just remember... They're calling Xerox the culprit of this evil socialism...

LOL

 

[Mustang]

Maybe the words of the lawyer actually handling the lawsuit might help:

Callister noted that the lawsuit is not an attack on the Affordable Care Act or the state’s insurance exchange.

“This has nothing to do with the ACA. This is 100 percent about Xerox, who won the bid from the state of Nevada to create this exchange. And they’ve failed. They absolutely failed,” Callister told the Review-Journal.

Lawsuit Filed Against Nevada Health Exchange « CBS Las Vegas

This thread reminds me of all of those early 1900s black and white movie news reels which showed various inventors trying out their ideas for flying machines. I particularly liked the one where some kind of corkscrew contraption was connected to what looked like an automobile. The thing kept jumping up and down like some kind of an automated toilet plunger.

The point is, just like this thread, they never got off the ground either.

 

[Mustang]

Because, if you hire a contractor that screws up the environment,we know the government will never go after you.

The extent to which you are wrong is so great that it will echo through the entire universe for all eternity.

Your assertion is that capitalists cannot do business with any government or they stop being capitalists. That is absurd.

That would mean that a privately owned caterer would stop being a capitalist enterprise if it agreed to cater a school board luncheon.

I didn't say they stop being capitalists because they do business with the government. I said that anything the government is involved in is not capitalism. Inderstand your confusion though, you actually think we have a fee market.

What utter nonsense your post is.

When gov't does business with a corporation, gov't is the CUSTOMER!

 

[Katzndogz]

There is no more lawsuit. It died with her.

 

[Mustang]

The M.f this thread seems to follow a familiar pattern: Call something socialist, even if it's actually capitalism, and then rail against it.

If this thread was to succeed in a policy sense, the gov't might actually be forced to stop doing business with private contractors (capitalist businesses) and start doing the work itself, thereby increasing the size of gov't, which is exactly what conservatives say they don't want.

Could someone who cares please take the time to give these conservatives a lesson in economics.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Linda Rolain's enrollment troubles kept her from treatment in January for an aggressive brain tumor, has died.

Woman in class-action lawsuit against Xerox dies | Las Vegas Review-Journal

Rolain’s husband, Robert, said the couple began trying to sign up in November, well ahead of the Dec. 15 deadline for January coverage. After wrestling with repeated sign-up problems, the Rolains bought a plan that took effect in March. But they said Xerox staffers miscommunicated the policy’s effective date, so they didn’t know until May that they had coverage.

Linda Rolain was first diagnosed with a brain tumor in early 2014, after a seizure in late 2013. Robert Rolain said in a June 19 news conference at the downtown Las Vegas offices of Callister, Immerman and Associates that his wife’s care was delayed for months because of their insurance troubles.

Robert Rolain alleges his wife’s tumor went from treatable in winter to fatal in spring as the couple fought for coverage.

Linda Rolain was admitted to hospice care in early June.

This is SOCIALISM.. Take a good look.

Yeah, let's go back to the good old days of doctors lying to protect the insurance companies: "...writing that deadly word, 'Denied'"



Let's ignore the hundreds of thousands the insurance companies have killed over the last 30 years to save money. My late spouse being one of them. Fuck you, GUMSlinger.

 

[NYcarbineer]

lol, if conservatives ever had their way with tort reform she or her estate probably wouldn't have been able to sue.

 

[Mustang]

lol, if conservatives ever had their way with tort reform she or her estate probably wouldn't have been able to sue.

Word up!

 

[SuMar]

Linda Rolain's enrollment troubles kept her from treatment in January for an aggressive brain tumor, has died.

Woman in class-action lawsuit against Xerox dies | Las Vegas Review-Journal

Rolain’s husband, Robert, said the couple began trying to sign up in November, well ahead of the Dec. 15 deadline for January coverage. After wrestling with repeated sign-up problems, the Rolains bought a plan that took effect in March. But they said Xerox staffers miscommunicated the policy’s effective date, so they didn’t know until May that they had coverage.

Linda Rolain was first diagnosed with a brain tumor in early 2014, after a seizure in late 2013. Robert Rolain said in a June 19 news conference at the downtown Las Vegas offices of Callister, Immerman and Associates that his wife’s care was delayed for months because of their insurance troubles.

Robert Rolain alleges his wife’s tumor went from treatable in winter to fatal in spring as the couple fought for coverage.

Linda Rolain was admitted to hospice care in early June.

This is SOCIALISM.. Take a good look.

More blood on Obama's hands.

 

[OnePercenter]

Under the Pre-ACA capitalistic health insurance model, her brain tumor would have made her uninsurable for the rest of her life, with no options at all.

She already had insurance, numskull.

Which insurance company was that?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Your assertion is that capitalists cannot do business with any government or they stop being capitalists. That is absurd.

That would mean that a privately owned caterer would stop being a capitalist enterprise if it agreed to cater a school board luncheon.

I didn't say they stop being capitalists because they do business with the government. I said that anything the government is involved in is not capitalism. Inderstand your confusion though, you actually think we have a fee market.

Nobody except you thinks that capitalism and government cannot co-exist.

Wanna bet on that?

That said, I did not say they can't coexist, I just said that anything the government is involved in is not capitalism. In order to have capitalism, there has to be competition, and no one competes with the government because the government doesn't allow it. If it did the Post office would be dead.