Would ANY Bush Basher care to refute these statements???

[Camp]

Liberation could and actually was used to describe a coup, civil uprising, civil war or regime change instigated with and by internal forces. Invasion has a different meaning. It refers to troops violently or forcefully entering a country or region.

The long list of statements made by various politicians were refuted and explained over a decade ago. There just always seems to be someone who regurgitates them and refuses to face reality. The statements used are either obsolete, having become null and void after changes occurred due to time and changing events, misrepresentation (lies) or misguided trust of the Bush/Cheney administration and misuse of the legislation given to Bush to conduct the invasion.
The Bush/Cheney defenders are screaming and whining that because people believed their lies and misrepresentations it isn't Bush/Cheney lies responsible for the war, the responsibility goes to those who believed the lies and misrepresentations.

Bush didn't lie, can't you get that talking point out of your head?

The Bush administration most certainly lied. They concocted the lie of a threat to the US that didn't exist.

That has been debunked, move along.

We can only imagine the link you could provide for that silly comment.

 

[jknowgood]

Liberation could and actually was used to describe a coup, civil uprising, civil war or regime change instigated with and by internal forces. Invasion has a different meaning. It refers to troops violently or forcefully entering a country or region.

The long list of statements made by various politicians were refuted and explained over a decade ago. There just always seems to be someone who regurgitates them and refuses to face reality. The statements used are either obsolete, having become null and void after changes occurred due to time and changing events, misrepresentation (lies) or misguided trust of the Bush/Cheney administration and misuse of the legislation given to Bush to conduct the invasion.
The Bush/Cheney defenders are screaming and whining that because people believed their lies and misrepresentations it isn't Bush/Cheney lies responsible for the war, the responsibility goes to those who believed the lies and misrepresentations.

Bush didn't lie, can't you get that talking point out of your head?

Bush either lied or was just plain stupid
He botched his decision to abandon the war on terror to attack Iraq
He botched his assessment of WMDs
He botched his evaluation of the population treating us as liberators
He botched his assesment of the probability of starting a civil war
He underestimated US Casualties
He underestimated the time we would need to be in Iraq
He underestimated the number of troops needed to keep the peace
He underestimated the amount of allied support

So Clinton was stupid also? Oh and Hillary supported the war. You want her to be the next president, a war monger?

Bush proposed the war and Bush was the decider

It was his call to make and he blew it

Lol, you need to think of obama the same instead of giving him a pass on blaming Bush. Just think if Clinton would've made the right decision, and took laden out when he had the chance. There would've been no 911 and no wars. That's what we get when a president runs his administration on polls.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Liberation could and actually was used to describe a coup, civil uprising, civil war or regime change instigated with and by internal forces. Invasion has a different meaning. It refers to troops violently or forcefully entering a country or region.

The long list of statements made by various politicians were refuted and explained over a decade ago. There just always seems to be someone who regurgitates them and refuses to face reality. The statements used are either obsolete, having become null and void after changes occurred due to time and changing events, misrepresentation (lies) or misguided trust of the Bush/Cheney administration and misuse of the legislation given to Bush to conduct the invasion.
The Bush/Cheney defenders are screaming and whining that because people believed their lies and misrepresentations it isn't Bush/Cheney lies responsible for the war, the responsibility goes to those who believed the lies and misrepresentations.

Bush didn't lie, can't you get that talking point out of your head?

Bush either lied or was just plain stupid
He botched his decision to abandon the war on terror to attack Iraq
He botched his assessment of WMDs
He botched his evaluation of the population treating us as liberators
He botched his assesment of the probability of starting a civil war
He underestimated US Casualties
He underestimated the time we would need to be in Iraq
He underestimated the number of troops needed to keep the peace
He underestimated the amount of allied support

So Clinton was stupid also? Oh and Hillary supported the war. You want her to be the next president, a war monger?

Bush proposed the war and Bush was the decider

It was his call to make and he blew it

Lol, you need to think of obama the same instead of giving him a pass on blaming Bush. Just think if Clinton would've made the right decision, and took laden out when he had the chance. There would've been no 911 and no wars. That's what we get when a president runs his administration on polls.

Why would killing or capturing Bin Laden in the nineties eliminated the possibility of a 9/11?

 

[rightwinger]

Liberation could and actually was used to describe a coup, civil uprising, civil war or regime change instigated with and by internal forces. Invasion has a different meaning. It refers to troops violently or forcefully entering a country or region.

The long list of statements made by various politicians were refuted and explained over a decade ago. There just always seems to be someone who regurgitates them and refuses to face reality. The statements used are either obsolete, having become null and void after changes occurred due to time and changing events, misrepresentation (lies) or misguided trust of the Bush/Cheney administration and misuse of the legislation given to Bush to conduct the invasion.
The Bush/Cheney defenders are screaming and whining that because people believed their lies and misrepresentations it isn't Bush/Cheney lies responsible for the war, the responsibility goes to those who believed the lies and misrepresentations.

Bush didn't lie, can't you get that talking point out of your head?

Bush either lied or was just plain stupid
He botched his decision to abandon the war on terror to attack Iraq
He botched his assessment of WMDs
He botched his evaluation of the population treating us as liberators
He botched his assesment of the probability of starting a civil war
He underestimated US Casualties
He underestimated the time we would need to be in Iraq
He underestimated the number of troops needed to keep the peace
He underestimated the amount of allied support

So Clinton was stupid also? Oh and Hillary supported the war. You want her to be the next president, a war monger?

Bush proposed the war and Bush was the decider

It was his call to make and he blew it

Lol, you need to think of obama the same instead of giving him a pass on blaming Bush. Just think if Clinton would've made the right decision, and took laden out when he had the chance. There would've been no 911 and no wars. That's what we get when a president runs his administration on polls.

In spite of numerous opportunities, President Obama has avoided putting boots on the ground

Clinton fired a cruise missile at bin Laden and missed. Bush allowed him to escape into Pakistan and then stopped chasing him

Thankfully, President Obama got him

 

[jknowgood]

Bush didn't lie, can't you get that talking point out of your head?

Bush either lied or was just plain stupid
He botched his decision to abandon the war on terror to attack Iraq
He botched his assessment of WMDs
He botched his evaluation of the population treating us as liberators
He botched his assesment of the probability of starting a civil war
He underestimated US Casualties
He underestimated the time we would need to be in Iraq
He underestimated the number of troops needed to keep the peace
He underestimated the amount of allied support

So Clinton was stupid also? Oh and Hillary supported the war. You want her to be the next president, a war monger?

Bush proposed the war and Bush was the decider

It was his call to make and he blew it

Lol, you need to think of obama the same instead of giving him a pass on blaming Bush. Just think if Clinton would've made the right decision, and took laden out when he had the chance. There would've been no 911 and no wars. That's what we get when a president runs his administration on polls.

Why would killing or capturing Bin Laden in the nineties eliminated the possibility of a 9/11?

He was the master mind of 911, or did you forget?

 

[jknowgood]

Bush didn't lie, can't you get that talking point out of your head?

Bush either lied or was just plain stupid
He botched his decision to abandon the war on terror to attack Iraq
He botched his assessment of WMDs
He botched his evaluation of the population treating us as liberators
He botched his assesment of the probability of starting a civil war
He underestimated US Casualties
He underestimated the time we would need to be in Iraq
He underestimated the number of troops needed to keep the peace
He underestimated the amount of allied support

So Clinton was stupid also? Oh and Hillary supported the war. You want her to be the next president, a war monger?

Bush proposed the war and Bush was the decider

It was his call to make and he blew it

Lol, you need to think of obama the same instead of giving him a pass on blaming Bush. Just think if Clinton would've made the right decision, and took laden out when he had the chance. There would've been no 911 and no wars. That's what we get when a president runs his administration on polls.

In spite of numerous opportunities, President Obama has avoided putting boots on the ground

Clinton fired a cruise missile at bin Laden and missed. Bush allowed him to escape into Pakistan and then stopped chasing him

Thankfully, President Obama got him

By intelligence using water boarding, thanks Bush for thinking of the safety of America's. If Obama wouldn't do what needs to be done to protect America.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

By intelligence using water boarding, thanks Bush for thinking of the safety of America's. If Obama wouldn't do what needs to be done to protect America.

Untrue, and unnecessary. Bush never cared about bin Laden, obviously.

 

[jknowgood]

By intelligence using water boarding, thanks Bush for thinking of the safety of America's. If Obama wouldn't do what needs to be done to protect America.

Untrue, and unnecessary. Bush never cared about bin Laden, obviously.

It was admitted that water boarding was used in getting the intel used to find out where laden was. Obama claims his administration never water boarded. So thanks president Bush.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

By intelligence using water boarding, thanks Bush for thinking of the safety of America's. If Obama wouldn't do what needs to be done to protect America.

Untrue, and unnecessary. Bush never cared about bin Laden, obviously.

It was admitted that water boarding was used in getting the intel used to find out where laden was. Obama claims his administration never water boarded. So thanks president Bush.

Waterboarding didn't produce the Intel, and it's beyond immoral regardless.

 

[Camp]

Liberation could and actually was used to describe a coup, civil uprising, civil war or regime change instigated with and by internal forces. Invasion has a different meaning. It refers to troops violently or forcefully entering a country or region.

The long list of statements made by various politicians were refuted and explained over a decade ago. There just always seems to be someone who regurgitates them and refuses to face reality. The statements used are either obsolete, having become null and void after changes occurred due to time and changing events, misrepresentation (lies) or misguided trust of the Bush/Cheney administration and misuse of the legislation given to Bush to conduct the invasion.
The Bush/Cheney defenders are screaming and whining that because people believed their lies and misrepresentations it isn't Bush/Cheney lies responsible for the war, the responsibility goes to those who believed the lies and misrepresentations.

Bush didn't lie, can't you get that talking point out of your head?

Bush either lied or was just plain stupid
He botched his decision to abandon the war on terror to attack Iraq
He botched his assessment of WMDs
He botched his evaluation of the population treating us as liberators
He botched his assesment of the probability of starting a civil war
He underestimated US Casualties
He underestimated the time we would need to be in Iraq
He underestimated the number of troops needed to keep the peace
He underestimated the amount of allied support

So Clinton was stupid also? Oh and Hillary supported the war. You want her to be the next president, a war monger?

Bush proposed the war and Bush was the decider

It was his call to make and he blew it

Lol, you need to think of obama the same instead of giving him a pass on blaming Bush. Just think if Clinton would've made the right decision, and took laden out when he had the chance. There would've been no 911 and no wars. That's what we get when a president runs his administration on polls.

Clinton did try to kill him. He had to wait until after the attacks of the Embassies in Africa and after Bin Laden admitted his involvement in those attacks. It was only at that point that the FBI and CIA gave certification for approval for his assassination, a legal requirement. Clinton launched 98 cruise missiles in the attack It is believed at least one strike missed Bin Laden by only about one hour. Republicans in Congress claimed it was an attempt to draw attention away from impeachment and the Star investigation. They threatened a new round of investigations and compared it to a popular movie titled "Wag The Dog". Intelligence agencies feared those investigations would have brought unwanted attention to their secretive operations.
How come you don't know this stuff.

 

[jknowgood]

By intelligence using water boarding, thanks Bush for thinking of the safety of America's. If Obama wouldn't do what needs to be done to protect America.

Untrue, and unnecessary. Bush never cared about bin Laden, obviously.

It was admitted that water boarding was used in getting the intel used to find out where laden was. Obama claims his administration never water boarded. So thanks president Bush.

Waterboarding didn't produce the Intel, and it's beyond immoral regardless.

Leon Panetta disagrees with you.

 

[jknowgood]

Bush didn't lie, can't you get that talking point out of your head?

Bush either lied or was just plain stupid
He botched his decision to abandon the war on terror to attack Iraq
He botched his assessment of WMDs
He botched his evaluation of the population treating us as liberators
He botched his assesment of the probability of starting a civil war
He underestimated US Casualties
He underestimated the time we would need to be in Iraq
He underestimated the number of troops needed to keep the peace
He underestimated the amount of allied support

So Clinton was stupid also? Oh and Hillary supported the war. You want her to be the next president, a war monger?

Bush proposed the war and Bush was the decider

It was his call to make and he blew it

Lol, you need to think of obama the same instead of giving him a pass on blaming Bush. Just think if Clinton would've made the right decision, and took laden out when he had the chance. There would've been no 911 and no wars. That's what we get when a president runs his administration on polls.

Clinton did try to kill him. He had to wait until after the attacks of the Embassies in Africa and after Bin Laden admitted his involvement in those attacks. It was only at that point that the FBI and CIA gave certification for approval for his assassination, a legal requirement. Clinton launched 98 cruise missiles in the attack It is believed at least one strike missed Bin Laden by only about one hour. Republicans in Congress claimed it was an attempt to draw attention away from impeachment and the Star investigation. They threatened a new round of investigations and compared it to a popular movie titled "Wag The Dog". Intelligence agencies feared those investigations would have brought unwanted attention to their secretive operations.
How come you don't know this stuff.

He could've got laden, he was worried about his approval numbers. Why don't you remember that?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

By intelligence using water boarding, thanks Bush for thinking of the safety of America's. If Obama wouldn't do what needs to be done to protect America.

Untrue, and unnecessary. Bush never cared about bin Laden, obviously.

It was admitted that water boarding was used in getting the intel used to find out where laden was. Obama claims his administration never water boarded. So thanks president Bush.

Waterboarding didn't produce the Intel, and it's beyond immoral regardless.

Leon Panetta disagrees with you.

Can't say as I care, since he is an apologist for evil in this case. And what's he going to say, we tortured people and got nothing out of it?

 

[Camp]

Bush either lied or was just plain stupid
He botched his decision to abandon the war on terror to attack Iraq
He botched his assessment of WMDs
He botched his evaluation of the population treating us as liberators
He botched his assesment of the probability of starting a civil war
He underestimated US Casualties
He underestimated the time we would need to be in Iraq
He underestimated the number of troops needed to keep the peace
He underestimated the amount of allied support

So Clinton was stupid also? Oh and Hillary supported the war. You want her to be the next president, a war monger?

Bush proposed the war and Bush was the decider

It was his call to make and he blew it

Lol, you need to think of obama the same instead of giving him a pass on blaming Bush. Just think if Clinton would've made the right decision, and took laden out when he had the chance. There would've been no 911 and no wars. That's what we get when a president runs his administration on polls.

Clinton did try to kill him. He had to wait until after the attacks of the Embassies in Africa and after Bin Laden admitted his involvement in those attacks. It was only at that point that the FBI and CIA gave certification for approval for his assassination, a legal requirement. Clinton launched 98 cruise missiles in the attack It is believed at least one strike missed Bin Laden by only about one hour. Republicans in Congress claimed it was an attempt to draw attention away from impeachment and the Star investigation. They threatened a new round of investigations and compared it to a popular movie titled "Wag The Dog". Intelligence agencies feared those investigations would have brought unwanted attention to their secretive operations.
How come you don't know this stuff.

He could've got laden, he was worried about his approval numbers. Why don't you remember that?

Because it's nonsense and all the stuff you say is just your own speculation without any kind of links or evidence to what you rant about. Most of it doesn't even make sense.

 

[jknowgood]

So Clinton was stupid also? Oh and Hillary supported the war. You want her to be the next president, a war monger?

Bush proposed the war and Bush was the decider

It was his call to make and he blew it

Lol, you need to think of obama the same instead of giving him a pass on blaming Bush. Just think if Clinton would've made the right decision, and took laden out when he had the chance. There would've been no 911 and no wars. That's what we get when a president runs his administration on polls.

Clinton did try to kill him. He had to wait until after the attacks of the Embassies in Africa and after Bin Laden admitted his involvement in those attacks. It was only at that point that the FBI and CIA gave certification for approval for his assassination, a legal requirement. Clinton launched 98 cruise missiles in the attack It is believed at least one strike missed Bin Laden by only about one hour. Republicans in Congress claimed it was an attempt to draw attention away from impeachment and the Star investigation. They threatened a new round of investigations and compared it to a popular movie titled "Wag The Dog". Intelligence agencies feared those investigations would have brought unwanted attention to their secretive operations.
How come you don't know this stuff.

He could've got laden, he was worried about his approval numbers. Why don't you remember that?

Because it's nonsense and all the stuff you say is just your own speculation without any kind of links or evidence to what you rant about. Most of it doesn't even make sense.

The truth never makes sense to a liberal.

 

[bendog]

Jeb loves this thread.

 

[rightwinger]

Bush either lied or was just plain stupid
He botched his decision to abandon the war on terror to attack Iraq
He botched his assessment of WMDs
He botched his evaluation of the population treating us as liberators
He botched his assesment of the probability of starting a civil war
He underestimated US Casualties
He underestimated the time we would need to be in Iraq
He underestimated the number of troops needed to keep the peace
He underestimated the amount of allied support

So Clinton was stupid also? Oh and Hillary supported the war. You want her to be the next president, a war monger?

Bush proposed the war and Bush was the decider

It was his call to make and he blew it

Lol, you need to think of obama the same instead of giving him a pass on blaming Bush. Just think if Clinton would've made the right decision, and took laden out when he had the chance. There would've been no 911 and no wars. That's what we get when a president runs his administration on polls.

Clinton did try to kill him. He had to wait until after the attacks of the Embassies in Africa and after Bin Laden admitted his involvement in those attacks. It was only at that point that the FBI and CIA gave certification for approval for his assassination, a legal requirement. Clinton launched 98 cruise missiles in the attack It is believed at least one strike missed Bin Laden by only about one hour. Republicans in Congress claimed it was an attempt to draw attention away from impeachment and the Star investigation. They threatened a new round of investigations and compared it to a popular movie titled "Wag The Dog". Intelligence agencies feared those investigations would have brought unwanted attention to their secretive operations.
How come you don't know this stuff.

He could've got laden, he was worried about his approval numbers. Why don't you remember that?

I seem to remember Republicans claiming that Clintons warnings about bin Laden were just attempts by Clinton to distract the country from its Blow Job Trial. Remember "wag the dog"?

 

[jknowgood]

So Clinton was stupid also? Oh and Hillary supported the war. You want her to be the next president, a war monger?

Bush proposed the war and Bush was the decider

It was his call to make and he blew it

Lol, you need to think of obama the same instead of giving him a pass on blaming Bush. Just think if Clinton would've made the right decision, and took laden out when he had the chance. There would've been no 911 and no wars. That's what we get when a president runs his administration on polls.

Clinton did try to kill him. He had to wait until after the attacks of the Embassies in Africa and after Bin Laden admitted his involvement in those attacks. It was only at that point that the FBI and CIA gave certification for approval for his assassination, a legal requirement. Clinton launched 98 cruise missiles in the attack It is believed at least one strike missed Bin Laden by only about one hour. Republicans in Congress claimed it was an attempt to draw attention away from impeachment and the Star investigation. They threatened a new round of investigations and compared it to a popular movie titled "Wag The Dog". Intelligence agencies feared those investigations would have brought unwanted attention to their secretive operations.
How come you don't know this stuff.

He could've got laden, he was worried about his approval numbers. Why don't you remember that?

I seem to remember Republicans claiming that Clintons warnings about bin Laden were just attempts by Clinton to distract the country from its Blow Job Trial. Remember "wag the dog"?

I guess you're right, he got the blow job out of the papers, but didn't bother to get laden. When he had the chance. The reason, because liberals would've hated laden to be killed. To a liberal anything good for the country is bad. Another reason not to elect a president that makes his decisions on polls.

 

[rightwinger]

Bush proposed the war and Bush was the decider

It was his call to make and he blew it

Lol, you need to think of obama the same instead of giving him a pass on blaming Bush. Just think if Clinton would've made the right decision, and took laden out when he had the chance. There would've been no 911 and no wars. That's what we get when a president runs his administration on polls.

Clinton did try to kill him. He had to wait until after the attacks of the Embassies in Africa and after Bin Laden admitted his involvement in those attacks. It was only at that point that the FBI and CIA gave certification for approval for his assassination, a legal requirement. Clinton launched 98 cruise missiles in the attack It is believed at least one strike missed Bin Laden by only about one hour. Republicans in Congress claimed it was an attempt to draw attention away from impeachment and the Star investigation. They threatened a new round of investigations and compared it to a popular movie titled "Wag The Dog". Intelligence agencies feared those investigations would have brought unwanted attention to their secretive operations.
How come you don't know this stuff.

He could've got laden, he was worried about his approval numbers. Why don't you remember that?

I seem to remember Republicans claiming that Clintons warnings about bin Laden were just attempts by Clinton to distract the country from its Blow Job Trial. Remember "wag the dog"?

I guess you're right, he got the blow job out of the papers, but didn't bother to get laden. When he had the chance. The reason, because liberals would've hated laden to be killed. To a liberal anything good for the country is bad. Another reason not to elect a president that makes his decisions on polls.

It was Bush who pulled his troops back in Tora Bora and allowed bin Laden to excape into Pakistan

Made sense actually. Bush realized that killing or capturing bin Laden in 2002 would have caused the American public to consider the war on terror to be over. America wouldn't have bought his invade Iraq rhetoric if bin Laden was dead.
And we know Bush wasn't going to jeopardize his Iraq invasion

 

[jknowgood]

Lol, you need to think of obama the same instead of giving him a pass on blaming Bush. Just think if Clinton would've made the right decision, and took laden out when he had the chance. There would've been no 911 and no wars. That's what we get when a president runs his administration on polls.

Clinton did try to kill him. He had to wait until after the attacks of the Embassies in Africa and after Bin Laden admitted his involvement in those attacks. It was only at that point that the FBI and CIA gave certification for approval for his assassination, a legal requirement. Clinton launched 98 cruise missiles in the attack It is believed at least one strike missed Bin Laden by only about one hour. Republicans in Congress claimed it was an attempt to draw attention away from impeachment and the Star investigation. They threatened a new round of investigations and compared it to a popular movie titled "Wag The Dog". Intelligence agencies feared those investigations would have brought unwanted attention to their secretive operations.
How come you don't know this stuff.

He could've got laden, he was worried about his approval numbers. Why don't you remember that?

I seem to remember Republicans claiming that Clintons warnings about bin Laden were just attempts by Clinton to distract the country from its Blow Job Trial. Remember "wag the dog"?

I guess you're right, he got the blow job out of the papers, but didn't bother to get laden. When he had the chance. The reason, because liberals would've hated laden to be killed. To a liberal anything good for the country is bad. Another reason not to elect a president that makes his decisions on polls.

It was Bush who pulled his troops back in Tora Bora and allowed bin Laden to excape into Pakistan

Made sense actually. Bush realized that killing or capturing bin Laden in 2002 would have caused the American public to consider the war on terror to be over. America wouldn't have bought his invade Iraq rhetoric if bin Laden was dead.
And we know Bush wasn't going to jeopardize his Iraq invasion

So you think if Bush killed bin Laden the war would've been over? Bush did say he was worried more about defeating the terrorists, than concentrating on one man. He had laden on the run. Anyway his intelligence ended up getting laden. Thanks president Bush.