Would you be in favor of a repeal of smoking bans ....

[Skull Pilot]

If the owner of an establishment wants to allow people to spit and snot everywhere he should be able to do so.

If you do not want to be spit on, you have the absolute right to patronize an establishment that does not allow spitting and snotting.

Your logic is so warped you'd probably defend an establishment that wanted to show child pornography films.

So smoking is tantamount to child pornography?

Don't be an idiot.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

The concept of freedom of choice is a simple one to grasp.

Yes and smokers need to make their choice, smoke where they won't hurt anyone else or see laws get passed to make sure they do the right thing.

And therein lays the problem. No one should legislate to 'make sure' that others 'do the right thing'.

So you oppose good Samaritan laws and required reporting?

 

[dilloduck]

Health code laws prohibit smoking in such establishments (as they should) one man's addiction should not infringe upon the life and choices of others.

The whole pint that is sailing over your head is that the laws regarding smoking are wrong.

God forbid anyone disagree with the government right?

They are not wrong health codes are a good thing.

but stupid health codes suck---if I want to open a smoking bar and advertise it as such WTF is the problem?

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Skull, if you want a license to serve food, you have to meet the health codes. Do as you will at home, but to serve the public, you need the public's permission to do business and you play by thee public's rules.

 

[noose4]

It's amusing the way some people keep repeating that. In most public places smoking is an illegal activity.
To claim it's "a perfectly legal activity" is like claiming it's perfectly legal to drive 65 miles an hour down a narrow residential street just because it's legal to drive that fast on the highway.

Drinking alcohol is legal yet I by law can not walk down the street drinking a bottle of beer.

Public property not private property.

My pub is not public property.

Once you open it to the public for business it becomes a public place and subject to the laws that apply.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Skull, if you want a license to serve food, you have to meet the health codes. Do as you will at home, but to serve the public, you need the public's permission to do business and you play by thee public's rules.

My God,

The point is the rules regarding smoking need to be changed.

What is so hard to understand about that?

I know the current law but the discussion here is whther it should be changed not what it currently is.

 

[Anguille]

I am not responsible for your health.

Note to self should I ever enter The Skull Pilot Bar and Grill: DO NOT ORDER THE SALMONELLA BURGER!!

 

[Skull Pilot]

Drinking alcohol is legal yet I by law can not walk down the street drinking a bottle of beer.

Public property not private property.

My pub is not public property.

Once you open it to the public for business it becomes a public place and subject to the laws that apply.

and the thread is asking the question should those laws be changed.

 

[noose4]

The whole pint that is sailing over your head is that the laws regarding smoking are wrong.

God forbid anyone disagree with the government right?

They are not wrong health codes are a good thing.

but stupid health codes suck---if I want to open a smoking bar and advertise it as such WTF is the problem?

Banning the use of a carcinogen in certain places is not a stupid health law.

 

[noose4]

Public property not private property.

My pub is not public property.

Once you open it to the public for business it becomes a public place and subject to the laws that apply.

and the thread is asking the question should those laws be changed.

As already stated I said no.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Once you open it to the public for business it becomes a public place and subject to the laws that apply.

and the thread is asking the question should those laws be changed.

As already stated I said no.

And I believe they should be changed

 

[Anguille]

When the health-Nazis came for the smokers,
I was not a smoker,
therefore, I was not concerned.

And when the health-Nazis attacked the obese,
I was not obese,
therefore, I was not concerned.

And when the health-Nazis attacked the drinkers and the alcohol industry,
I was not a drinker,
therefore I was not concerned.

Then, the health-Nazis attacked me and the freedom loving Americans who remained,
and there was nobody left to be concerned.


NYC Smoking Ban

(yes, Dude, I have been afflicted by Godwin's Law - it's highly contagious)

right.. because not being able to smoke in a given area is totally the same as being murdered

Some smokers act like they think they are being murdered!

 

[Skull Pilot]

When the health-Nazis came for the smokers,
I was not a smoker,
therefore, I was not concerned.

And when the health-Nazis attacked the obese,
I was not obese,
therefore, I was not concerned.

And when the health-Nazis attacked the drinkers and the alcohol industry,
I was not a drinker,
therefore I was not concerned.

Then, the health-Nazis attacked me and the freedom loving Americans who remained,
and there was nobody left to be concerned.


NYC Smoking Ban

(yes, Dude, I have been afflicted by Godwin's Law - it's highly contagious)

right.. because not being able to smoke in a given area is totally the same as being murdered

Some smokers act like they think they are being murdered!

Some nonsmokers think smoking equals child pornography

 

[noose4]

When the health-Nazis came for the smokers,
I was not a smoker,
therefore, I was not concerned.

And when the health-Nazis attacked the obese,
I was not obese,
therefore, I was not concerned.

And when the health-Nazis attacked the drinkers and the alcohol industry,
I was not a drinker,
therefore I was not concerned.

Then, the health-Nazis attacked me and the freedom loving Americans who remained,
and there was nobody left to be concerned.


NYC Smoking Ban

(yes, Dude, I have been afflicted by Godwin's Law - it's highly contagious)

right.. because not being able to smoke in a given area is totally the same as being murdered

Some smokers act like they think they are being murdered!

When addiction takes hold it holds on tight.

 

[dilloduck]

When the health-Nazis came for the smokers,
I was not a smoker,
therefore, I was not concerned.

And when the health-Nazis attacked the obese,
I was not obese,
therefore, I was not concerned.

And when the health-Nazis attacked the drinkers and the alcohol industry,
I was not a drinker,
therefore I was not concerned.

Then, the health-Nazis attacked me and the freedom loving Americans who remained,
and there was nobody left to be concerned.


NYC Smoking Ban

(yes, Dude, I have been afflicted by Godwin's Law - it's highly contagious)

right.. because not being able to smoke in a given area is totally the same as being murdered

Some smokers act like they think they are being murdered!

Don't get too full of yourself here---it's a personal rights issue.

 

[noose4]

right.. because not being able to smoke in a given area is totally the same as being murdered

Some smokers act like they think they are being murdered!

Some nonsmokers think smoking equals child pornography

No it just equals addiction, the only difference between a smoker and a heroin junkie is that ones addiction is legal.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Skull, if you want a license to serve food, you have to meet the health codes. Do as you will at home, but to serve the public, you need the public's permission to do business and you play by thee public's rules.

My God,

The point is the rules regarding smoking need to be changed.

What is so hard to understand about that?

I know the current law but the discussion here is whther it should be changed not what it currently is.

You're the one talking about blowing your nose in the food. you idiot.

Is it too late to take that rep back?

 

[☭proletarian☭]

I am not responsible for your health.

Actually restaurants are responsible for patron health.

 

[Mr Natural]

right.. because not being able to smoke in a given area is totally the same as being murdered

Some smokers act like they think they are being murdered!

Some nonsmokers think smoking equals child pornography

No, we just think it's stupid.

But if you want to commit slow-motion suicide, that's your business.

 

[dilloduck]

When the health-Nazis came for the smokers,
I was not a smoker,
therefore, I was not concerned.

And when the health-Nazis attacked the obese,
I was not obese,
therefore, I was not concerned.

And when the health-Nazis attacked the drinkers and the alcohol industry,
I was not a drinker,
therefore I was not concerned.

Then, the health-Nazis attacked me and the freedom loving Americans who remained,
and there was nobody left to be concerned.


NYC Smoking Ban

(yes, Dude, I have been afflicted by Godwin's Law - it's highly contagious)

right.. because not being able to smoke in a given area is totally the same as being murdered

Some smokers act like they think they are being murdered!

Please---even non-smokers have agreed that the smoking bans suck----try again