Wounded vet not a "True Hero"

[daveman]

Pathetic dave, just pathetic

After all these years and all those senseless deaths that there are still those trying to refight Vietnam as a way to somehow justify the enormous blunder we made in getting involved in a civil war

Just so we could kill Commies

Just like Bode, huh?

Fuck the Vietnamese. Why should those little yellow people get the chance to enjoy the same freedoms you have?

Besides, their lives would have been SO much better under Communist rule.

Right?

Then why didn't Saint Ronnie send troops to Afghanistan to repel the Communist invasion?

Was his attitude "Fuck the Afghans. Why should those brown people get the chance to enjoy the same freedoms we have?"

Now deflect, little doggie.

Oh, you mean deflect like bringing up Reagan?

 

[rightwinger]

And the communists killed 2 and a quarter million people after we left.

Hey ho. Collateral damage on the way to the Worker's Paradise, right?

You just make sure you don't condemn it. They'll take away your lefty card.

Not in VietNam they didn't.

Tens of thousands died at the hands of those you so passionately defend.

To stop the slaughter in Cambodia we would have had to escalate the theater and send tens of thousands more boys to their deaths. It still would not have made a difference
It was VietNam who invaded Cambodia and put an end to the Khmer Rouge and Pol Pot

You know we were conducting operations in Cambodia, right?

We bombed Cambodia because North Vietnam was using Cambodian territory to bring supplies to troops in the South. It had nothing to do with Pol Pot or Khmer Rouge

 

[bodecea]

If Washington had stuck to strategic decisions instead of getting down to the tactical level and making targeting decisions, the war would have been over quickly and Vietnam would have been liberated.

Pathetic dave, just pathetic

After all these years and all those senseless deaths that there are still those trying to refight Vietnam as a way to somehow justify the enormous blunder we made in getting involved in a civil war

Just so we could kill Commies

Just like Bode, huh?

Fuck the Vietnamese. Why should those little yellow people get the chance to enjoy the same freedoms you have?

Besides, their lives would have been SO much better under Communist rule.

Right?

It....Wasn't...Our...Business.

Just like our Civil War was not England's business. They were smart enough to stay out. We were the stupid ones....and many people died for that stupidity.

 

[Too Tall]

trashing vets to win elections.


Its a republican standard

Kerry
Cleland
Duckworth

All served honorably. All were awarded Purple Hearts. All were slimed by wingnut cowards.

McCain
North
George HW Bush

All served honorably. All were awarded Purple Hearts. All were slimed by wingnut cowards

One difference was none of the Republicans threw away their 'medals' and told lies about their fellow servicemen to a congressional committee for political gain.

 

[Too Tall]

Saxby "Swiftboating Max Cleland" Chambliss.
You forgot to mention this little fact. Vote for or against but they swiftboating that happened was all lies.

I know his voting record as Senator and you apparently don't. No lies since it is a matter of public record.

Well, share that voting record with us....let me see the horror of it.

Look it up yourself if you are interested.

 

[Too Tall]

So...you should have no problem naming some names. I look forward to the list....since so many had it happen.

Names from 45 years ago would be hard to come by and you wouldn't believe it anyway. It was documented at the time, so take your urban legend as stuff it.

IF it were documented, you'd be able to pull it up....but isn't it conVEEEEEniant that you can't pull any actual, witnessed and named incidences.

It's an urban legend....or at least the vastness of such behavior is an urban legend.

Your selective memory is even more conVEEEEEEEEniant.

 

[Too Tall]

Well, share that voting record with us....let me see the horror of it.

You won;t see any horror.

He was ranked A+ by Planned Parenthood and an F- by NRA

I wonder what he did to earn an F- by the NRA. Maybe Too Tall can enlighten us.

I could, but it would be a waste of my time.

 

[Too Tall]

Ross Nolan. 0:53.

Anti-War Protester Spits on Iraq War Veteran - YouTube

Yoo hoo, Bode!

Like most leftists, you indulge in magical thinking. For instance, if you pretend this post isn't here, it really doesn't exist!

Reality, however, disagrees.

one...impressive

It blows your 'urban legend' out of the water, and there were many more.

 

[Too Tall]

It's not a bad thing, but it apparently leaves one woefully unprepared for leadership.

I would agree, if that were all you had to go on. Add in a Harvard Law degree, eight years in the Illinois Senate and four years as a US Senator and you start to get some cred

Don't forget to toss in a media that refused to vet him and stupid voters who swooned over speeches and hopey-changey empty promises.

All that and he's STILL incompetent.

Obama was fully vetted by the Republicans

They brought up Reverand Wright, Bill Ayers, Birth Certificates, Michelle hating America

Didn't work too well did it?[/QUOTE]

The vetting process is supposed to be done by the impartial press. Didn't happen!

 

[Too Tall]

one...impressive

Oh, but we were assured it NEVER happened!

Looks like your side lied, huh? Tell me, as a veteran -- how does it feel to defend the people who would spit on you?

Pathetic, coming from someone who - to this day - defends people who outed a covert CIA agent.

I have never defended Richard Armitage, never!

 

[daveman]

Not in VietNam they didn't.

Tens of thousands died at the hands of those you so passionately defend.

To stop the slaughter in Cambodia we would have had to escalate the theater and send tens of thousands more boys to their deaths. It still would not have made a difference
It was VietNam who invaded Cambodia and put an end to the Khmer Rouge and Pol Pot

You know we were conducting operations in Cambodia, right?

We bombed Cambodia because North Vietnam was using Cambodian territory to bring supplies to troops in the South. It had nothing to do with Pol Pot or Khmer Rouge

We had boots on the ground, too.

 

[daveman]

Pathetic dave, just pathetic

After all these years and all those senseless deaths that there are still those trying to refight Vietnam as a way to somehow justify the enormous blunder we made in getting involved in a civil war

Just so we could kill Commies

Just like Bode, huh?

Fuck the Vietnamese. Why should those little yellow people get the chance to enjoy the same freedoms you have?

Besides, their lives would have been SO much better under Communist rule.

Right?

It....Wasn't...Our...Business.

Just like our Civil War was not England's business. They were smart enough to stay out. We were the stupid ones....and many people died for that stupidity.

You can blame war-mongering Democrats for that.

 

[Too Tall]

They most certainly do.

No, they don't.

18 USC § 953 - Private correspondence with foreign governments | LII / Legal Information Institute

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.​

And then there's the UCMJ:

ART. 104. AIDING THE ENEMY
Any person who--

(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or

(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly;

shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.​

But you'll continue to bitterly cling to your ignorance.

No shit. And he broke the law.

Hey braveman: Right here, right now, I am rubber-stamping our surrender to the North Koreans!

Doesn't mean shit, does it?


Dumbass.

That you'd advocate the US surrender to Communists is not at all surprising.

Damn Dave......you are really off the deep end on this one

Treason, surrendering to the enemy,.....you are not usually this bizarre

The alleged proof you are posting is just rightwing propaganda taken to the extreme

Publishing sections of the US Code and the UCMJ aren't propaganda dipshit, they are civilian and military LAW.

 

[Synthaholic]

That was Saddam, dumbass. He lived in Iraq, until he was executed by his own people. You wept bitterly when that happened, didn't you? Most people are aware that Iraq is not Afghanistan.

Your lack of reading comprehension is either pathetic, or just more of your typical dishonesty. Here - I'll break it down for you:

That's because Obama has treated Afghanistan as a war to be won and engaged (Bush let bin Laden escape through Tora Bora in order to ramp up his expansion of the War On Terror), rather than as an excuse to get rid of the guy who tried to hurt his daddy (Bush used 911 as an excuse to go after Saddam).

Of course, you knew what I was saying. You may be a fool and a tool or the Conservative fringe, but you're not an idiot.

So, you fucked up, and it's MY fault.

I didn't fuck up. It's perfectly clear.

 

[Synthaholic]

Just like Bode, huh?

Fuck the Vietnamese. Why should those little yellow people get the chance to enjoy the same freedoms you have?

Besides, their lives would have been SO much better under Communist rule.

Right?

Then why didn't Saint Ronnie send troops to Afghanistan to repel the Communist invasion?

Was his attitude "Fuck the Afghans. Why should those brown people get the chance to enjoy the same freedoms we have?"

Now deflect, little doggie.

Oh, you mean deflect like bringing up Reagan?

OK, who in the pool, besides me, had "braveman will act like a punk bitch to keep from answering the question?"

 

[Synthaholic]

trashing vets to win elections.


Its a republican standard

Kerry
Cleland
Duckworth

All served honorably. All were awarded Purple Hearts. All were slimed by wingnut cowards.

McCain
North
George HW Bush

All served honorably. All were awarded Purple Hearts. All were slimed by wingnut cowards

One difference was none of the Republicans threw away their 'medals' and told lies about their fellow servicemen to a congressional committee for political gain.

Why would wingnuts slime any of them? Oh, that's right: McCain and GHW Bush are RINOs, that's why.

The Left never slimed those two. North is a felon. Sad how the Right still reveres him.

I'll bet that braveman doesn't say anything about your deflection.

 

[Synthaholic]

I would agree, if that were all you had to go on. Add in a Harvard Law degree, eight years in the Illinois Senate and four years as a US Senator and you start to get some cred

Don't forget to toss in a media that refused to vet him and stupid voters who swooned over speeches and hopey-changey empty promises.

All that and he's STILL incompetent.

Obama was fully vetted by the Republicans

They brought up Reverand Wright, Bill Ayers, Birth Certificates, Michelle hating America

Didn't work too well did it?

The vetting process is supposed to be done by the impartial press. Didn't happen![/QUOTE]
You fucking crybaby.

 

[Synthaholic]

Just like Bode, huh?

Fuck the Vietnamese. Why should those little yellow people get the chance to enjoy the same freedoms you have?

Besides, their lives would have been SO much better under Communist rule.

Right?

It....Wasn't...Our...Business.

Just like our Civil War was not England's business. They were smart enough to stay out. We were the stupid ones....and many people died for that stupidity.

You can blame war-mongering Democrats for that.

That's war winning Democrats, bitch.

 

[Too Tall]

He was supporting his fellow servicemen trying to get us out of a stupidly conceived war

A true American Patriot

He endorsed what the Communists, our nation's enemy, wanted.

But thanks for proving my point: Of course, he was supporting Communists, so the left has no problem with it.

He did what was best for his country unlike conservatives who insisted on throwing more and more soldiers into the meat grinder.....just so we could "beat the commies"

LBJ was a conservative? Who wudda thunk it!

 

[Too Tall]

Kerry
Cleland
Duckworth

All served honorably. All were awarded Purple Hearts. All were slimed by wingnut cowards.

McCain
North
George HW Bush

All served honorably. All were awarded Purple Hearts. All were slimed by wingnut cowards

One difference was none of the Republicans threw away their 'medals' and told lies about their fellow servicemen to a congressional committee for political gain.

Why would wingnuts slime any of them? Oh, that's right: McCain and GHW Bush are RINOs, that's why.

The Left never slimed those two. North is a felon. Sad how the Right still reveres him.

I'll bet that braveman doesn't say anything about your deflection.

Even a dumbshot should know that there are left wingnuts as well as right wingnuts. North was awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star Medal and two Purple Heart medals and you just slimed him. What court of law convicted North of a felony?

GHW Bush was the subject of several MSM stories saying he bailed out of his TBM too early during WWII and let his two crewmen die.

McCain's service was demeaned many times because he crashed several planes.