WSJ: The World Bakes Under Extreme Heat

This is being done up in Eugene, Oregon ... further north in Corvallis, the city had to shut down the methane generators ... not enough food waste to decompose ... and we have cats of all sizes here, the rats tend to the restaurants in town rather than where bobcats or puma can get them out by the dump ...

The sad part is all the carbon pollution from trucking all that food to be wasted into our cities, just to create more carbon pollution hauling the rotting stuff back out ... too much waste is the problem ... it's bad when the homeless have garbage ...

Conservation ... yeah, it's a filthy word ain't it? ...
Perhaps the answer is to find more efficient ways to capture landfill methane. The way it's done now is inefficient, most of it is wasted. Maybe take a lesson from farmers who used to cover their manure piles and pipe the methane directly to the kitchen stove. Methane explosions in the barnyard weren't unheard of. :omg:
 
Perhaps the answer is to find more efficient ways to capture landfill methane. The way it's done now is inefficient, most of it is wasted. Maybe take a lesson from farmers who used to cover their manure piles and pipe the methane directly to the kitchen stove. Methane explosions in the barnyard weren't unheard of. :omg:

Really ... never heard of that ... how did the farmers pressurize the methane? ... no one was doing this in Iowa in the 1980's ... manure was spread on the fields as fertilizer ... and not necessarily composted first ... if you smell my drift here ...

I hate to point this out ... but farm methane comes from cow belches, not their farts ... that's easy mistake to make ...

The problem in Corvallis is not enough organic material is being dumped into the pit ... and they didn't layer in the oxygen pipes when the people weren't composting ... and the gas distribution system is somewhat limited ... it's just an expensive boondoggle here where hydro-electricity is king ... and cheaper ...

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I think you missed my point ... which is typical ... Corvallis produces less total waste ... IIRC they're diverting 2/3's the waste stream into composting and recycling ... adding decades to the life of the landfill ... (albeit this was before the plastics recycling market crashed) ... liberals will pay more for their environmentally friendly footprint ...

We need to stop buying things that will need to be thrown away later ... you know ... CONSERVATION ...
 
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Really ... never heard of that ... how did the farmers pressurize the methane? ... no one was doing this in Iowa in the 1980's ... manure was spread on the fields as fertilizer ... and not necessarily composted first ... if you smell my drift here ...

I hate to point this out ... but farm methane comes from cow belches, not their farts ... that's easy mistake to make ...

The problem in Corvallis is not enough organic material is being dumped into the pit ... and they didn't layer in the oxygen pipes when the people weren't composting ... and the gas distribution system is somewhat limited ... it's just an expensive boondoggle here where hydro-electricity is king ... and cheaper ...

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I think you missed my point ... which is typical ... Corvallis produces less total waste ... IIRC they're diverting 2/3's the waste stream into composting and recycling ... adding decades to the life of the landfill ... (albeit this was before the plastics recycling market crashed) ... liberals will pay more for their environmentally friendly footprint ...

We need to stop buying things that will need to be thrown away later ... you know ... CONSERVATION ...
Covering manure piles was a European thing. The edges of the tarp are sealed with stones or soil. The biogas generates its own pressure as it is formed. If the gas was rich enough in methane it was piped with hoses to various applications. A simple pressure valve released the gas if the pressure got too high. Explosions of the whole thing were not uncommon. The same principle is used in many rural areas of the world where manure is plentiful.

Regarding Corvallis, some areas aren't a good fit for this technology, but many are.
 
... The biogas generates its own pressure as it is formed ...

Not under Earth's gravity it doesn't ... this study implies these are just ideas, nothing has been put into production yet ... or at most trial plots ... nothing yet to scale ...

Same problem Corvallis has, folks are eating the food, and not letting it go to waste ... and folks need to be eating more vegetable products ... the carbon-friendly future has us eating 90% less meat ... that means less silage, less manure, less bio-methane ...

Cows belch methane ... they're ruminants ...
 
Not under Earth's gravity it doesn't ... this study implies these are just ideas, nothing has been put into production yet ... or at most trial plots ... nothing yet to scale ...

Same problem Corvallis has, folks are eating the food, and not letting it go to waste ... and folks need to be eating more vegetable products ... the carbon-friendly future has us eating 90% less meat ... that means less silage, less manure, less bio-methane ...

Cows belch methane ... they're ruminants ...
Nothing your article suggests that anaerobic decomposition doesn't create pressure in a closed vessel. Also, food waste isn't the same as wasted food. Peelings, skins, rinds, cores, woody stems, leaves etc. are examples of food waste.
 
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Covering manure piles was a European thing. The edges of the tarp are sealed with stones or soil. The biogas generates its own pressure as it is formed. If the gas was rich enough in methane it was piped with hoses to various applications. A simple pressure valve released the gas if the pressure got too high. Explosions of the whole thing were not uncommon. The same principle is used in many rural areas of the world where manure is plentiful.

Regarding Corvallis, some areas aren't a good fit for this technology, but many are.

The edges of the tarp are sealed with stones or soil. The biogas generates its own pressure as it is formed.

What kind of pressure do you get?
1.01 atm? 1.02 atm?
 
The edges of the tarp are sealed with stones or soil. The biogas generates its own pressure as it is formed.

What kind of pressure do you get?
1.01 atm? 1.02 atm?
Enough to push the gas through a hose.

Probably the same as a drowning victim.

 
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Not under Earth's gravity it doesn't ... this study implies these are just ideas, nothing has been put into production yet ... or at most trial plots ... nothing yet to scale ...

Same problem Corvallis has, folks are eating the food, and not letting it go to waste ... and folks need to be eating more vegetable products ... the carbon-friendly future has us eating 90% less meat ... that means less silage, less manure, less bio-methane ...

Cows belch methane ... they're ruminants ...
So, the elites and people with designs on godhood will live the same as the peasant. We do not see it now, with all of the scamming we won't when it is 100% and many people dead or suffering with much less.
 
Nothing your article suggests that anaerobic decomposition doesn't create pressure in a closed vessel.

Do you have a citation? ... above you posted that just stones and soil hold down the sheet plastic ... that's not a closed system, internal pressure will be 1 atmosphere ... here in the United States, we use old tires to cover the silage ... manure is returned to the land ...

C6H12O6 --> 3 CO2 + 3 CH4

Yeesh ... that's carbon intensive ...

Also, food waste isn't the same as wasted food. Peelings, skins, rinds, cores, woody stems, leaves etc. are examples of food waste.

That's a small part ... here in the United States, up to 15% edible food is wasted in the home and restaurants ... not rinds and peels, but good food, just old and spoiled ... the kids aren't eating it and the dog stepped in it and so maybe it's best tossed ... but that's Americans ... we pile corn up just to watch it rot ...
 

Hot-tub-like Persian Gulf fuels 158-degree heat index in Iran


Washington Post - August 9, 2023 at 3:51

Fueled by water temperatures in the upper 90s (upper 30s Celsius), the Persian Gulf region is enduring a brutal combination of heat and humidity that is making it feel intolerable.

In coastal Iran on Tuesday, the heat index leaped as high as 158 degrees (70 Celsius), a level so extreme that it can test the ability of humans to survive outside for more than a few hours.

Heat indexes have regularly surpassed 140 degrees (60 Celsius) in the region in recent weeks, while nights have offered little relief. In populous cities such as Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait City, heat indexes have only fallen to 100 to 120 degrees (37.8 to 48.9 Celsius) after dark.

Excessive heat is very much the norm in this region, but it is now particularly intense as the planet reaches its highest temperatures on record.

In recent days, Persian Gulf sea surface temperatures have risen as high as 97.6 degrees (36.4 Celsius), the highest in 20 years of satellite data at this time of year. The hot tub-like waters are similar to those recently observed near the Florida Keys as oceans worldwide set records for warmth..
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Hot-tub-like Persian Gulf fuels 158-degree heat index in Iran


Washington Post - August 9, 2023 at 3:51

Fueled by water temperatures in the upper 90s (upper 30s Celsius), the Persian Gulf region is enduring a brutal combination of heat and humidity that is making it feel intolerable.

In coastal Iran on Tuesday, the heat index leaped as high as 158 degrees (70 Celsius), a level so extreme that it can test the ability of humans to survive outside for more than a few hours.

Heat indexes have regularly surpassed 140 degrees (60 Celsius) in the region in recent weeks, while nights have offered little relief. In populous cities such as Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait City, heat indexes have only fallen to 100 to 120 degrees (37.8 to 48.9 Celsius) after dark.

Excessive heat is very much the norm in this region, but it is now particularly intense as the planet reaches its highest temperatures on record.

In recent days, Persian Gulf sea surface temperatures have risen as high as 97.6 degrees (36.4 Celsius), the highest in 20 years of satellite data at this time of year. The hot tub-like waters are similar to those recently observed near the Florida Keys as oceans worldwide set records for warmth..
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It’s called weather.
 
But I have explained it. You are looking at Greenland during an interglacial period.


Parroting McBullshit again. How pathetic. Think Antarctica has been on the South Pole for the past 90 million years??

And you lie, you haven't answered shit other than to parrot the easily discredited McBullshit and "glacials" nonsense.
 
Parroting McBullshit again. How pathetic. Think Antarctica has been on the South Pole for the past 90 million years??

And you lie, you haven't answered shit other than to parrot the easily discredited McBullshit and "glacials" nonsense.
You were talking about Greenland. When you say Greenland had no ice, that would have been during an interglacial period.
 
You were talking about Greenland.



Greenland froze in the past 1-2 million years. North America THAWED during that same span. "Glacials" are bullshit. Earth climate change is about WHERE LAND IS, which controls the amount of ice on the planet.
 
It is actually fudge from a fraud desperate to show "warming" when the planet is not...
But it is. It’s still 2C below the peak temperature of previous interglacial periods so it’s perfectly normal and natural.
 
Greenland froze in the past 1-2 million years. North America THAWED during that same span. "Glacials" are bullshit. Earth climate change is about WHERE LAND IS, which controls the amount of ice on the planet.
Sure. There were 10 interglacial periods and 10 glacial periods between 1 million years ago and 2 million years ago. Freezing occurred during the glacial periods and thawing occurred during the interglacial periods.
 
But it is


That is FUDGED FRAUD you are mindlessly parroting. Outside of urban heat sink effect, the Co2 fraud has never had any warming in any data. NONE...

ATMOSPHERE - NO
OCEANS - NO
OCEAN RISE - NO
BREAKOUT IN CANES = NO
ONGOING NET ICE MELT - NO
 

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