WSJ: The World Bakes Under Extreme Heat

[ding]

Why if you claim there is all this warming and ocean warming, is Hawaii unable to set a new record high in 92 years?

Surely if the Pacific Ocean is "warming" then Hawaii is too, right?

LOL!!!


MAYBE THE PACIFIC IS NOT WARMING, and THAT IS WHY NEITHER IS HAWAII....

You have to look at the big picture. Over the last 1 million years the planet has behaved very predictably. It warms up to approximately the same temperature - which is about 2C warmer than today and then reverses itself by cooling down ~8C . All naturally. So it shouldn't be a surprise that the planet is naturally warming as it works its way to the well established interglacial peak temperature.

 

[abu afak]

Calling someone a "denier" for disagreeing with your "Consensus" is NOT science, it's a Cult

It's Not "My Consensus," it's the the overwhelming consensus of Climate Scientists....
and Every relevant Science Org in the World.
(and Exxon Mobil)
So **** you liar.

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[jc456]

So are most "green" initiatives driven by government incentives.

They still think we pick panels and wind turbines off of trees

 

[jc456]

It's Not "My Consensus," it's the the overwhelming consensus of Climate Scientists....
and Every relevant Science Org in the World.
(and Exxon Mobil)
So **** you liar.

`

Lie

 

[ding]

It's Not "My Consensus," it's the the overwhelming consensus of Climate Scientists....
and Every relevant Science Org in the World.
(and Exxon Mobil)
So **** you liar.

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There is no consensus. You think there is because they don't allow dissenting opinions in their reports.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It's Not "My Consensus," it's the the overwhelming consensus of Climate Scientists....
and Every relevant Science Org in the World.
(and Exxon Mobil)
So **** you liar.

`

Consensus is a Cult word, it's a religious word; it's NOT science

 

[jc456]

It's Not "My Consensus," it's the the overwhelming consensus of Climate Scientists....
and Every relevant Science Org in the World.
(and Exxon Mobil)
So **** you liar.

`

 

[abu afak]

Consensus is a Cult word, it's a religious word; it's NOT science

Scientific Consensus​

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Scientific Consensus is the generally held judgment, position, and opinion of the Majority or the Supermajority of scientists in a particular field of study at any particular time.[1][2]

Consensus is achieved through scholarly communication at conferences, the Publication process, replication of Reproducible results by others, Scholarly debate,[3][4][5][6] and Peer review. A conference meant to create a consensus is termed as a consensus conference.[7][8][9] Such measures lead to a situation in which those within the discipline can often recognize such a consensus where it exists....

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[CrusaderFrank]

Scientific Consensus​

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Scientific Consensus is the generally held judgment, position, and opinion of the Majority or the Supermajority of scientists in a particular field of study at any particular time.[1][2]

Consensus is achieved through scholarly communication at conferences, the Publication process, replication of Reproducible results by others, Scholarly debate,[3][4][5][6] and Peer review. A conference meant to create a consensus is termed as a consensus conference.[7][8][9] Such measures lead to a situation in which those within the discipline can often recognize such a consensus where it exists....

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Any moron can add to Wikipedia.

Consensus is a Cult word

And the record shows CO2 laggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggging temperature by 1,000 years

 

[EMH]

Hurricane season is about to kick off and climatologists are looking for larger more damaging storms due to increased ocean temperatures in the hurricane zones. News at eleven.

You can be rest assured that claim will be watched closely. We had a big season in 2005. Then we had the longest ever drought of a Cat 3+ strike on the US coast ever, 10+ years. All this "ocean warming" and the record decade for canes is still the 1940s.... the IDIOCY of the Co2 FRAUD

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

 

[jc456]

They still think we pick panels and wind turbines off of trees

abu afak , where do you think they come from?

 

[jc456]

Scientific Consensus​

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Scientific Consensus is the generally held judgment, position, and opinion of the Majority or the Supermajority of scientists in a particular field of study at any particular time.[1][2]

Consensus is achieved through scholarly communication at conferences, the Publication process, replication of Reproducible results by others, Scholarly debate,[3][4][5][6] and Peer review. A conference meant to create a consensus is termed as a consensus conference.[7][8][9] Such measures lead to a situation in which those within the discipline can often recognize such a consensus where it exists....

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Really? What is that? That doesn’t support your post

 

[Woodznutz]

You can be rest assured that claim will be watched closely. We had a big season in 2005. Then we had the longest ever drought of a Cat 3+ strike on the US coast ever, 10+ years. All this "ocean warming" and the record decade for canes is still the 1940s.... the IDIOCY of the Co2 FRAUD

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

There are other metrics besides hurricanes.

 

[Woodznutz]

Again, what if atmospheric CO2 is an indicator of global warming, not a cause?

 

[westwall]

Again, what if atmospheric CO2 is an indicator of global warming, not a cause?

It has been known for quite a while that CO2 LAGS temperature.

That means it is exactly what you say. An indicator, not a initiater.

 

[abu afak]

It has been known for quite a while that CO2 LAGS temperature.

That means it is exactly what you say. An indicator, not a initiater.

It's been known that it lags in Natural cycles BUT (lesser known) it also exacerbates that warming.
(it's a GHG after all!)(Duh!)

So this Cycle, which unlike the others in that it was not Solar Forced (earth tilt cycle, etc), CO2 and other GHGs lead the warming due to the Giant 50% increase in them generated by human emissions.

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[Woodznutz]

It's been known that it lags in Natural cycles BUT (lesser known) it also exacerbates that warming.
(it's a GHG after all!)(Duh!)

So this Cycle, which unlike the others in that it was not Solar Forced (earth tilt cycle, etc), CO2 and other GHGs lead the warming due to the Giant 50% increase in them generated by human emissions.

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So, do we deal with the GHGs first or the temperatures (seems that we're dealing with neither)

 

[westwall]

So, do we deal with the GHGs first or the temperatures (seems that we're dealing with neither)

We can do neither one. You mitigate the effects. The belief we can control the climate is ridiculous.

 

[Woodznutz]

We can do neither one. You mitigate the effects. The belief we can control the climate is ridiculous.

Can't we tweak it a little?

 

[westwall]

I agree, but we can affect the weather locally.

Sure. Urban Heat Island effect is well known. But that is LOCAL.