WWII and Hiroshima/Nagasaki

[dpr112yme]

Albert Einstein visited the U.S. in 1933 when Adolf Hitler came into power and Albert Einstein did not go back to Germany since he was of Jewish ancestry. Albert Einstein knew that Adolf Hitler was anti-Semitic before the Nazi Regime was formed. He became a U.S. citizen in 1940 and on the eve of World War 2, he endorsed a letter to President Franklin D. Roosevelt alerting him to the potential development of 'extremely powerful bombs of a new type', and recommended that the U.S. begin similar research.

This led to the Manhattan Project.

The first nuclear testing of the bomb, by the Manhattan Project, which they dropped on Hiroshima, was conducted in New Mexico in July of 1945 in the Jornada del Muerto desert.

The U.S. with consent from the U.K, then dropped the nuclear bomb on Hiroshima in August of 1945, 1 month after the test and 5 years after the war had begun.

The concept of nuclear weapons being possible through the process of 'fission', first arose in 1938 by Otto Hahn and Fritz Strassmann and was theoretically explained by Lise Meitner in January of 1939. This led to the discovery of 'spontaneous Fission' in Russia in 1940.

After the war had begun, Germany put aside their nuclear investigation. The German Nuclear Weapon Project was postponed and the Military of Germany was being strengthened by the German's enrollment into the military.

Although Germany and Russia had the foundations of nuclear weapons during WWII, neither Germany nor Russia had nuclear weapons during World War 2.

 

[irosie91]

Albert Einstein visited the U.S. in 1933 when Adolf Hitler came into power and Albert Einstein did not go back to Germany since he was of Jewish ancestry. Albert Einstein knew that Adolf Hitler was anti-Semitic before the Nazi Regime was formed. He became a U.S. citizen in 1940 and on the eve of World War 2, he endorsed a letter to President Franklin D. Roosevelt alerting him to the potential development of 'extremely powerful bombs of a new type', and recommended that the U.S. begin similar research.

This led to the Manhattan Project.

The first nuclear testing of the bomb, by the Manhattan Project, which they dropped on Hiroshima, was conducted in New Mexico in July of 1945 in the Jornada del Muerto desert.

The U.S. with consent from the U.K, then dropped the nuclear bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August of 1945, 1 month after the test and 5 years after the war had begun.

The concept of nuclear weapons being possible through the process of 'fission', first arose in 1938 by Otto Hahn and Fritz Strassmann and was theoretically explained by Lise Meitner in January of 1939. This led to the discovery of 'spontaneous Fission' in Russia in 1940.

After the war had begun, Germany put aside their nuclear investigation. The German Nuclear Weapon Project was postponed and the Military of Germany was being strengthened by the German's enrollment into the military.

Although Germany and Russia had the foundations of nuclear weapons during WWII, neither Germany nor Russia had nuclear weapons during World War 2.

are you the grammar school history teacher?. Germany was VERY MUCH into research into FISSION as a weapon. The good news is that the jewish physicists left------even better----
the big time gentile physicist WERNER HEISENBERG------
probably sabotaged the effort

 

[dpr112yme]

The 'ionizing' of atoms could be the cause for the explosion. Just like radiation treatments for any caner cells causes the 'ionizing' of the cells. Ionization of cells is the transforming of cells through the displacements of the cell's members, being the electron, neutrons, protons, etc.... Which leads to a different cell 'makeup' after the process is completed.

 

[DGS49]

why is this in the Education forum? Please explain the connection with education.

 

[dpr112yme]

why is this in the Education forum? Please explain the connection with education.

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Past US events and the basis for our future

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[dpr112yme]

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[IsaacNewton]

The Germans were in fact working on an atomic bomb. They had a heavy water plant in Telemark, Norway. The British, who I could vote as the saviors of the free world for The Battle of Britain and with the Norwegians the raid on Telemark, staged a commando raid on the plant to destroy it. The commandos slipped into the plant and blew up many the containers of heavy water. The sound of the explosions was so muffled inside the building and as it was at night the Germans didn't even hear it and the commandos slipped away.

The Germans decided to move their remaining store of heavy water, about 4,000 gallons, to another location. They had a division of troops along the railway from the plant to a lake nearby where the heavy water, in two rail cars, would be loaded on a rail carrying ferry that crossed the lake every day. Unfortunately for them the security AT the ferry was light and commandos got aboard the ferry and planted bombs below decks and again slipped away.

The bombs were timed and exploded when the ferry was at the deepest part of the lake. It sank, along with the rail cars, in 1,200 feet of water. From that point on the atomic bomb program of the Germans fell way behind.

 

[dpr112yme]

The Germans were in fact working on an atomic bomb. They had a heavy water plant in Telemark, Norway. The British, who I could vote as the saviors of the free world for The Battle of Britain and with the Norwegians the raid on Telemark, staged a commando raid on the plant to destroy it. The commandos slipped into the plant and blew up many the containers of heavy water. The sound of the explosions was so muffled inside the building and as it was at night the Germans didn't even hear it and the commandos slipped away.

The Germans decided to move their remaining store of heavy water, about 4,000 gallons, to another location. They had a division of troops along the railway from the plant to a lake nearby where the heavy water, in two rail cars, would be loaded on a rail carrying ferry that crossed the lake every day. Unfortunately for them the security AT the ferry was light and commandos got aboard the ferry and planted bombs below decks and again slipped away.

The bombs were timed and exploded when the ferry was at the deepest part of the lake. It sank, along with the rail cars, in 1,200 feet of water. From that point on the atomic bomb program of the Germans fell way behind.

So then the Germans DID have nuclear weapons during WW2?? And if they DID, they decided to NOT use it against their enemies?? Nice.

 

[irosie91]

The Germans were in fact working on an atomic bomb. They had a heavy water plant in Telemark, Norway. The British, who I could vote as the saviors of the free world for The Battle of Britain and with the Norwegians the raid on Telemark, staged a commando raid on the plant to destroy it. The commandos slipped into the plant and blew up many the containers of heavy water. The sound of the explosions was so muffled inside the building and as it was at night the Germans didn't even hear it and the commandos slipped away.

The Germans decided to move their remaining store of heavy water, about 4,000 gallons, to another location. They had a division of troops along the railway from the plant to a lake nearby where the heavy water, in two rail cars, would be loaded on a rail carrying ferry that crossed the lake every day. Unfortunately for them the security AT the ferry was light and commandos got aboard the ferry and planted bombs below decks and again slipped away.

The bombs were timed and exploded when the ferry was at the deepest part of the lake. It sank, along with the rail cars, in 1,200 feet of water. From that point on the atomic bomb program of the Germans fell way behind.

So then the Germans DID have nuclear weapons during WW2?? And if they DID, they decided to NOT use it against their enemies?? Nice.

no----they didn't have it

 

[Unkotare]

The Germans were in fact working on an atomic bomb. They had a heavy water plant in Telemark, Norway. The British, who I could vote as the saviors of the free world for The Battle of Britain and with the Norwegians the raid on Telemark, staged a commando raid on the plant to destroy it. The commandos slipped into the plant and blew up many the containers of heavy water. The sound of the explosions was so muffled inside the building and as it was at night the Germans didn't even hear it and the commandos slipped away.

The Germans decided to move their remaining store of heavy water, about 4,000 gallons, to another location. They had a division of troops along the railway from the plant to a lake nearby where the heavy water, in two rail cars, would be loaded on a rail carrying ferry that crossed the lake every day. Unfortunately for them the security AT the ferry was light and commandos got aboard the ferry and planted bombs below decks and again slipped away.

The bombs were timed and exploded when the ferry was at the deepest part of the lake. It sank, along with the rail cars, in 1,200 feet of water. From that point on the atomic bomb program of the Germans fell way behind.

So then the Germans DID have nuclear weapons during WW2?? And if they DID, they decided to NOT use it against their enemies?? Nice.

.......

 

[irosie91]

The Germans were in fact working on an atomic bomb. They had a heavy water plant in Telemark, Norway. The British, who I could vote as the saviors of the free world for The Battle of Britain and with the Norwegians the raid on Telemark, staged a commando raid on the plant to destroy it. The commandos slipped into the plant and blew up many the containers of heavy water. The sound of the explosions was so muffled inside the building and as it was at night the Germans didn't even hear it and the commandos slipped away.

The Germans decided to move their remaining store of heavy water, about 4,000 gallons, to another location. They had a division of troops along the railway from the plant to a lake nearby where the heavy water, in two rail cars, would be loaded on a rail carrying ferry that crossed the lake every day. Unfortunately for them the security AT the ferry was light and commandos got aboard the ferry and planted bombs below decks and again slipped away.

The bombs were timed and exploded when the ferry was at the deepest part of the lake. It sank, along with the rail cars, in 1,200 feet of water. From that point on the atomic bomb program of the Germans fell way behind.

So then the Germans DID have nuclear weapons during WW2?? And if they DID, they decided to NOT use it against their enemies?? Nice.

.......

no----they did not have them

 

[westwall]

The Germans were in fact working on an atomic bomb. They had a heavy water plant in Telemark, Norway. The British, who I could vote as the saviors of the free world for The Battle of Britain and with the Norwegians the raid on Telemark, staged a commando raid on the plant to destroy it. The commandos slipped into the plant and blew up many the containers of heavy water. The sound of the explosions was so muffled inside the building and as it was at night the Germans didn't even hear it and the commandos slipped away.

The Germans decided to move their remaining store of heavy water, about 4,000 gallons, to another location. They had a division of troops along the railway from the plant to a lake nearby where the heavy water, in two rail cars, would be loaded on a rail carrying ferry that crossed the lake every day. Unfortunately for them the security AT the ferry was light and commandos got aboard the ferry and planted bombs below decks and again slipped away.

The bombs were timed and exploded when the ferry was at the deepest part of the lake. It sank, along with the rail cars, in 1,200 feet of water. From that point on the atomic bomb program of the Germans fell way behind.

The germans were in fact working on a FUSION bomb. As such, thanks to the aforementioned actions by Heisenberg who stole a critical calculation that showed a fusion bomb wouldn't work without a fission bomb to initiate it, the germans would never have succeeded.

 

[irosie91]

The Germans were in fact working on an atomic bomb. They had a heavy water plant in Telemark, Norway. The British, who I could vote as the saviors of the free world for The Battle of Britain and with the Norwegians the raid on Telemark, staged a commando raid on the plant to destroy it. The commandos slipped into the plant and blew up many the containers of heavy water. The sound of the explosions was so muffled inside the building and as it was at night the Germans didn't even hear it and the commandos slipped away.

The Germans decided to move their remaining store of heavy water, about 4,000 gallons, to another location. They had a division of troops along the railway from the plant to a lake nearby where the heavy water, in two rail cars, would be loaded on a rail carrying ferry that crossed the lake every day. Unfortunately for them the security AT the ferry was light and commandos got aboard the ferry and planted bombs below decks and again slipped away.

The bombs were timed and exploded when the ferry was at the deepest part of the lake. It sank, along with the rail cars, in 1,200 feet of water. From that point on the atomic bomb program of the Germans fell way behind.

The germans were in fact working on a FUSION bomb. As such, thanks to the aforementioned actions by Heisenberg who stole a critical calculation that showed a fusion bomb wouldn't work without a fission bomb to initiate it, the germans would never have succeeded.

thanks----I was wondering what the heavy water thing was
all about.

 

[westwall]

The Germans were in fact working on an atomic bomb. They had a heavy water plant in Telemark, Norway. The British, who I could vote as the saviors of the free world for The Battle of Britain and with the Norwegians the raid on Telemark, staged a commando raid on the plant to destroy it. The commandos slipped into the plant and blew up many the containers of heavy water. The sound of the explosions was so muffled inside the building and as it was at night the Germans didn't even hear it and the commandos slipped away.

The Germans decided to move their remaining store of heavy water, about 4,000 gallons, to another location. They had a division of troops along the railway from the plant to a lake nearby where the heavy water, in two rail cars, would be loaded on a rail carrying ferry that crossed the lake every day. Unfortunately for them the security AT the ferry was light and commandos got aboard the ferry and planted bombs below decks and again slipped away.

The bombs were timed and exploded when the ferry was at the deepest part of the lake. It sank, along with the rail cars, in 1,200 feet of water. From that point on the atomic bomb program of the Germans fell way behind.

The germans were in fact working on a FUSION bomb. As such, thanks to the aforementioned actions by Heisenberg who stole a critical calculation that showed a fusion bomb wouldn't work without a fission bomb to initiate it, the germans would never have succeeded.

thanks----I was wondering what the heavy water thing was
all about.

Deuterium and tritium. Both used for thermonuclear devices but totally worthless without an atomic bomb to set it off.

 

[irosie91]

The Germans were in fact working on an atomic bomb. They had a heavy water plant in Telemark, Norway. The British, who I could vote as the saviors of the free world for The Battle of Britain and with the Norwegians the raid on Telemark, staged a commando raid on the plant to destroy it. The commandos slipped into the plant and blew up many the containers of heavy water. The sound of the explosions was so muffled inside the building and as it was at night the Germans didn't even hear it and the commandos slipped away.

The Germans decided to move their remaining store of heavy water, about 4,000 gallons, to another location. They had a division of troops along the railway from the plant to a lake nearby where the heavy water, in two rail cars, would be loaded on a rail carrying ferry that crossed the lake every day. Unfortunately for them the security AT the ferry was light and commandos got aboard the ferry and planted bombs below decks and again slipped away.

The bombs were timed and exploded when the ferry was at the deepest part of the lake. It sank, along with the rail cars, in 1,200 feet of water. From that point on the atomic bomb program of the Germans fell way behind.

The germans were in fact working on a FUSION bomb. As such, thanks to the aforementioned actions by Heisenberg who stole a critical calculation that showed a fusion bomb wouldn't work without a fission bomb to initiate it, the germans would never have succeeded.

thanks----I was wondering what the heavy water thing was
all about.

Deuterium and tritium. Both used for thermonuclear devices but totally worthless without an atomic bomb to set it off.

I did not know------and I did not know that one needs fission to do fusion-----just did not know------I am kinda surprised that those guys knew it all the way back then----like even before
there was a successful fission bomb. -------so you can't just
heat it up on the stove and expect it to FUSE!!!! <big giant bang>~~~~~~~~~ ??? I did not know. ------good thing-----
one can have lots of heavy water around and expect it NOT
TO EXPLODE INTO A NEW SUN (????)

 

[IsaacNewton]

The Germans were in fact working on an atomic bomb. They had a heavy water plant in Telemark, Norway. The British, who I could vote as the saviors of the free world for The Battle of Britain and with the Norwegians the raid on Telemark, staged a commando raid on the plant to destroy it. The commandos slipped into the plant and blew up many the containers of heavy water. The sound of the explosions was so muffled inside the building and as it was at night the Germans didn't even hear it and the commandos slipped away.

The Germans decided to move their remaining store of heavy water, about 4,000 gallons, to another location. They had a division of troops along the railway from the plant to a lake nearby where the heavy water, in two rail cars, would be loaded on a rail carrying ferry that crossed the lake every day. Unfortunately for them the security AT the ferry was light and commandos got aboard the ferry and planted bombs below decks and again slipped away.

The bombs were timed and exploded when the ferry was at the deepest part of the lake. It sank, along with the rail cars, in 1,200 feet of water. From that point on the atomic bomb program of the Germans fell way behind.

The germans were in fact working on a FUSION bomb. As such, thanks to the aforementioned actions by Heisenberg who stole a critical calculation that showed a fusion bomb wouldn't work without a fission bomb to initiate it, the germans would never have succeeded.

thanks----I was wondering what the heavy water thing was
all about.

Deuterium and tritium. Both used for thermonuclear devices but totally worthless without an atomic bomb to set it off.

I did not know------and I did not know that one needs fission to do fusion-----just did not know------I am kinda surprised that those guys knew it all the way back then----like even before
there was a successful fission bomb. -------so you can't just
heat it up on the stove and expect it to FUSE!!!! <big giant bang>~~~~~~~~~ ??? I did not know. ------good thing-----
one can have lots of heavy water around and expect it NOT
TO EXPLODE INTO A NEW SUN (????)

The heavy water is used to process Uranium into fissionable material, it isn't used in a bomb. They did not know about a fusion bomb.

 

[irosie91]

The Germans were in fact working on an atomic bomb. They had a heavy water plant in Telemark, Norway. The British, who I could vote as the saviors of the free world for The Battle of Britain and with the Norwegians the raid on Telemark, staged a commando raid on the plant to destroy it. The commandos slipped into the plant and blew up many the containers of heavy water. The sound of the explosions was so muffled inside the building and as it was at night the Germans didn't even hear it and the commandos slipped away.

The Germans decided to move their remaining store of heavy water, about 4,000 gallons, to another location. They had a division of troops along the railway from the plant to a lake nearby where the heavy water, in two rail cars, would be loaded on a rail carrying ferry that crossed the lake every day. Unfortunately for them the security AT the ferry was light and commandos got aboard the ferry and planted bombs below decks and again slipped away.

The bombs were timed and exploded when the ferry was at the deepest part of the lake. It sank, along with the rail cars, in 1,200 feet of water. From that point on the atomic bomb program of the Germans fell way behind.

The germans were in fact working on a FUSION bomb. As such, thanks to the aforementioned actions by Heisenberg who stole a critical calculation that showed a fusion bomb wouldn't work without a fission bomb to initiate it, the germans would never have succeeded.

thanks----I was wondering what the heavy water thing was
all about.

Deuterium and tritium. Both used for thermonuclear devices but totally worthless without an atomic bomb to set it off.

I did not know------and I did not know that one needs fission to do fusion-----just did not know------I am kinda surprised that those guys knew it all the way back then----like even before
there was a successful fission bomb. -------so you can't just
heat it up on the stove and expect it to FUSE!!!! <big giant bang>~~~~~~~~~ ??? I did not know. ------good thing-----
one can have lots of heavy water around and expect it NOT
TO EXPLODE INTO A NEW SUN (????)

The heavy water is used to process Uranium into fissionable material, it isn't used in a bomb. They did not know about a fusion bomb.

Oh---the heavy water creates the ISOTOPE??? sheeeesh------I thought that the fissionable uranium is naturally occurring-----and just needs to be PICKED out of the pile of uranium ???

 

[IsaacNewton]

The germans were in fact working on a FUSION bomb. As such, thanks to the aforementioned actions by Heisenberg who stole a critical calculation that showed a fusion bomb wouldn't work without a fission bomb to initiate it, the germans would never have succeeded.

thanks----I was wondering what the heavy water thing was
all about.

Deuterium and tritium. Both used for thermonuclear devices but totally worthless without an atomic bomb to set it off.

I did not know------and I did not know that one needs fission to do fusion-----just did not know------I am kinda surprised that those guys knew it all the way back then----like even before
there was a successful fission bomb. -------so you can't just
heat it up on the stove and expect it to FUSE!!!! <big giant bang>~~~~~~~~~ ??? I did not know. ------good thing-----
one can have lots of heavy water around and expect it NOT
TO EXPLODE INTO A NEW SUN (????)

The heavy water is used to process Uranium into fissionable material, it isn't used in a bomb. They did not know about a fusion bomb.

Oh---the heavy water creates the ISOTOPE??? sheeeesh------I thought that the fissionable uranium is naturally occurring-----and just needs to be PICKED out of the pile of uranium ???

I'm certainly no expert, there are plenty of web pages available to explain these things in detail. My only point in posting here was to point out the Germans were working on an atomic bomb and they were thwarted in that endeavor.

 

[westwall]

The Germans were in fact working on an atomic bomb. They had a heavy water plant in Telemark, Norway. The British, who I could vote as the saviors of the free world for The Battle of Britain and with the Norwegians the raid on Telemark, staged a commando raid on the plant to destroy it. The commandos slipped into the plant and blew up many the containers of heavy water. The sound of the explosions was so muffled inside the building and as it was at night the Germans didn't even hear it and the commandos slipped away.

The Germans decided to move their remaining store of heavy water, about 4,000 gallons, to another location. They had a division of troops along the railway from the plant to a lake nearby where the heavy water, in two rail cars, would be loaded on a rail carrying ferry that crossed the lake every day. Unfortunately for them the security AT the ferry was light and commandos got aboard the ferry and planted bombs below decks and again slipped away.

The bombs were timed and exploded when the ferry was at the deepest part of the lake. It sank, along with the rail cars, in 1,200 feet of water. From that point on the atomic bomb program of the Germans fell way behind.

The germans were in fact working on a FUSION bomb. As such, thanks to the aforementioned actions by Heisenberg who stole a critical calculation that showed a fusion bomb wouldn't work without a fission bomb to initiate it, the germans would never have succeeded.

thanks----I was wondering what the heavy water thing was
all about.

Deuterium and tritium. Both used for thermonuclear devices but totally worthless without an atomic bomb to set it off.

I did not know------and I did not know that one needs fission to do fusion-----just did not know------I am kinda surprised that those guys knew it all the way back then----like even before
there was a successful fission bomb. -------so you can't just
heat it up on the stove and expect it to FUSE!!!! <big giant bang>~~~~~~~~~ ??? I did not know. ------good thing-----
one can have lots of heavy water around and expect it NOT
TO EXPLODE INTO A NEW SUN (????)

It's actually three explosions. First, they use a super high powered plastic explosive called TAT-B to set off the fission bomb, then that sets of the fusion bomb. All within milliseconds.

 

[westwall]

The Germans were in fact working on an atomic bomb. They had a heavy water plant in Telemark, Norway. The British, who I could vote as the saviors of the free world for The Battle of Britain and with the Norwegians the raid on Telemark, staged a commando raid on the plant to destroy it. The commandos slipped into the plant and blew up many the containers of heavy water. The sound of the explosions was so muffled inside the building and as it was at night the Germans didn't even hear it and the commandos slipped away.

The Germans decided to move their remaining store of heavy water, about 4,000 gallons, to another location. They had a division of troops along the railway from the plant to a lake nearby where the heavy water, in two rail cars, would be loaded on a rail carrying ferry that crossed the lake every day. Unfortunately for them the security AT the ferry was light and commandos got aboard the ferry and planted bombs below decks and again slipped away.

The bombs were timed and exploded when the ferry was at the deepest part of the lake. It sank, along with the rail cars, in 1,200 feet of water. From that point on the atomic bomb program of the Germans fell way behind.

The germans were in fact working on a FUSION bomb. As such, thanks to the aforementioned actions by Heisenberg who stole a critical calculation that showed a fusion bomb wouldn't work without a fission bomb to initiate it, the germans would never have succeeded.

thanks----I was wondering what the heavy water thing was
all about.

Deuterium and tritium. Both used for thermonuclear devices but totally worthless without an atomic bomb to set it off.

I did not know------and I did not know that one needs fission to do fusion-----just did not know------I am kinda surprised that those guys knew it all the way back then----like even before
there was a successful fission bomb. -------so you can't just
heat it up on the stove and expect it to FUSE!!!! <big giant bang>~~~~~~~~~ ??? I did not know. ------good thing-----
one can have lots of heavy water around and expect it NOT
TO EXPLODE INTO A NEW SUN (????)

The heavy water is used to process Uranium into fissionable material, it isn't used in a bomb. They did not know about a fusion bomb.

Not true. Lithium-Deuterate is the compound they came up with to deal with the problem of using a gas as your explosive.

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