Wyoming welder faces $75,000 a day in EPA fines for building pond on his property

[thereisnospoon]

Aren't the vast majority of faux ?news? contributors teabaggers?

And the majority of teabagger support comes from two guys that the EPA has targeted justly.

Koch Industries | PolluterWatch

And now we have the rest of the story!

And this has fuckall to do with what?

faux not telling the whole story. They tend to do that since the average age of a faux watcher is 68, or as I call it; 'the dementia class.'

Here ya go genius....
http://www.independentsentinel.com/e...his-property/\

 

[thereisnospoon]

What makes this guy think that the water in a creek that has egress on his property is HIS water?

Did you miss the part where he has a state permit?

No. Did you miss the part where he needed a Federal permit? He damned a creek that had egress on his property which flows to a larger tributary. Even if he didn't know about Federal permits, I'm sure he was told by the state, if not, there's his out. This is nothing more than the six P's of stupid.

The pond is exempt from the EPA regulation because the intended purpose is to attract wildlife.
Your precious Obama snot government goons are going to lose this one.

 

[OnePercenter]

And this has fuckall to do with what?

faux not telling the whole story. They tend to do that since the average age of a faux watcher is 68, or as I call it; 'the dementia class.'

Here ya go genius....
http://www.independentsentinel.com/e...his-property/\

Bad link genius!

 

[OnePercenter]

Did you miss the part where he has a state permit?

No. Did you miss the part where he needed a Federal permit? He damned a creek that had egress on his property which flows to a larger tributary. Even if he didn't know about Federal permits, I'm sure he was told by the state, if not, there's his out. This is nothing more than the six P's of stupid.

The pond is exempt from the EPA regulation because the intended purpose is to attract wildlife.
Your precious Obama snot government goons are going to lose this one.

What about the creek he damned - which is the actual issue?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

No. Did you miss the part where he needed a Federal permit? He damned a creek that had egress on his property which flows to a larger tributary. Even if he didn't know about Federal permits, I'm sure he was told by the state, if not, there's his out. This is nothing more than the six P's of stupid.

The pond is exempt from the EPA regulation because the intended purpose is to attract wildlife.
Your precious Obama snot government goons are going to lose this one.

What about the creek he damned - which is the actual issue?

Show me the dam.

 

[TemplarKormac]

No. Did you miss the part where he needed a Federal permit? He damned a creek that had egress on his property which flows to a larger tributary. Even if he didn't know about Federal permits, I'm sure he was told by the state, if not, there's his out. This is nothing more than the six P's of stupid.

The pond is exempt from the EPA regulation because the intended purpose is to attract wildlife.
Your precious Obama snot government goons are going to lose this one.

What about the creek he damned - which is the actual issue?

There's creeks in hell? Damn. So much pun.

 

[Antares]

This thread perfectly frames the Governmental view of the respective Party's.

The Left views as a needed parental figure in the lives of its people and the Right wants it to get the fuck out of the way.

Well except for Jake who as usual takes it out to most illogical place he can.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

What will they do if he refuses to pay? Send armed thugs to evict him and confiscate his property? Oh right, that's exactly what they'll do. Progressive Paradise.

 

[thereisnospoon]

faux not telling the whole story. They tend to do that since the average age of a faux watcher is 68, or as I call it; 'the dementia class.'

Here ya go genius....
http://www.independentsentinel.com/e...his-property/\

Bad link genius!

Here ya go, Mr Room Tempearture IQ
EPA Threatens Wyoming Man for Building a Pond on His Property
March 14, 2014
By Sara Noble
The Administrator of the EPA, Gina McCarthy, is testing the power of the EPA in advance of the passage of harsh new rules that will give the EPA control of all the bodies of water in the country. The EPA sees themselves as the overseers of all water on all property in the United States, public or private, whether it be lakes, streams or even ditches.

No landowner’s property will be safe from these people. A test case is that of Andy Johnson who faces fines and criminal penalties for building a pond on his property.

Andy and Katie Johnson built a stock pond on their 8-acre Wyoming farm. They filled it with clear water, fish, ducks and geese. His horses used it to drink and graze.

Johnson family

Johnson family

All went well until the EPA went after the family for violating the Clean Water Act and threatened Andy Johnson with civil and criminal penalties including fines of $75,000 a day.

Andy Johnson has vowed to go bankrupt before he pays the government a dime. He wants to teach his children to not back down.

The EPA claims the Johnsons built a dam on a creek without a permit from the Army Corps of Engineers. The EPA charges the pond discharges into other waterways. Johnson says it’s a pond to attract wildlife which is exempt from Clean Water regulations.

Johnson says a letter from the Wyoming State Engineeer’s Office proves he followed state rules.

The EPA claims they have the final say and they won’t back down.

Johnson felt hopeless when he received the EPA order, but he now has three Republican lawmakers helping him. Wyoming Senators John Barrasso, Mike Enzi, and Louisiana Sen. David Vitter are supporting him. They sent a March 12th letter to the EPA’s acting Assistant Administrator demanding the EPA withdraw the compliance order which “reads like a draconian edict of a heavy-handed bureaucracy”.

Johnson has 60 days to hire a consultant to assess the impact and to schedule restoration work on his own property.

He didn’t build a dam, he built a stock pond but that’s irrelevant to the EPA.

We are getting a taste of what the EPA plans to do to landowners in this country.

Proposed EPA rule changes will redefine what bodies of water the government agency can oversee under the Clean Water Act, changes which would give them a say over ponds, lakes, wetlands, streams, whether they are natural or man-made, no matter if it’s on public or private property.

The EPA expects to control all the water and land in this country.

When this issue was brought to the attention of the public, it was dismissed as a conspiracy theory. It’s not.

The EPA is redefining the meaning of the word ‘water’ so they can seize control over all water and, as a consequence, all private property in the United States.

The Supreme Court of the United States has defined the meaning of ‘water’ as ‘navigable water.’ The EPA seeks to redefine the meaning of water as all ‘connected water,’ and they are seeking to define ‘connected water as all water, so they can assume power to regulate every body of water in the United States. Any water, even ditches, on private property will be controlled.

The EPA is using a bogus study which says all water is connected to one another deep under the earth. It would mean even puddles, ponds, and ditches along with streams and rivers fall under their jurisdiction. EPA’s Gina McCarthy is an extremist and she is running this show.

This has been in the works since Mr. Obama entered office and it took place to a lesser degree under Bill Clinton.

The EPA has long wanted to control property because it has something as insignificant as a ditch on it. Proof lies in the story of Dexter Lutter, which you can read about on this link.

If you want to know how extreme the EPA is, read about this attack on oil and gas. Remember the case of the Sacketts who wanted to build their dream home? How about the time they fined companies for non-existant fuels? How about the ongoing land grabs to save the Mississippi Gopher Frog?

The EPA is run by extremists in the environmental justice movement. Some states have been fighting back. Read about that side story on this link.

The EPA attempted to seize control over large bodies of water in Virginia recently. It was stopped, but without Ken Cuccinelli to fight it, and with the opportunists and far-leftists now in charge, they might now succeed. Read more on this link.

The Environmental Protection Agency has long embodied the worst regulatory extremism found in the federal bureaucracy.

 

[thereisnospoon]

No. Did you miss the part where he needed a Federal permit? He damned a creek that had egress on his property which flows to a larger tributary. Even if he didn't know about Federal permits, I'm sure he was told by the state, if not, there's his out. This is nothing more than the six P's of stupid.

The pond is exempt from the EPA regulation because the intended purpose is to attract wildlife.
Your precious Obama snot government goons are going to lose this one.

What about the creek he damned - which is the actual issue?

No...The actual issue is a fucking EPA bureaucrat got his or her panties in a wad because his or her ass didn't get sucked..
All these government slugs that get appointed to positions of power think their shit is made of ice cream....
The creek is not dammed. The water is diverted to an impoundment with an outlet that allows the water to flow once again.
Why are you so vociferously against this family?
They are not bothering anyone.

 

[thereisnospoon]

All Andy Johnson wanted to do was build a stock pond on his sprawling eight-acre Wyoming farm. He and his wife Katie spent hours constructing it, filling it with crystal-clear water, and bringing in brook and brown trout, ducks and geese. It was a place where his horses could drink and graze, and a private playground for his three children

But instead of enjoying the fruits of his labor, the Wyoming welder says he was harangued by the federal government, stuck in what he calls a petty power play by the Environmental Protection AgencyHe claims the agency is now threatening him with civil and criminal penalties – including the threat of a $75,000-a-day fine.

Wyoming welder faces $75,000 a day in EPA fines for building pond on his property | Fox News

Fuck the EPA, Fuck the Gov.

Oh, Fox News. LOL

So Fox News is making a story based on the claims of a person....No surprise there, perfectly normal for Fox "News".

Since "corporations are people", if one of these large corporate farms in the Midwest wanted to choke off a river that runs through their land and simply create a giant reservoir for themselves to water their own crops only...it would be fine I suppose; you can do what you want with your own land; screw society...right?

Hey rocket scientist, it does not take a shot gun to kill a house fly.
This is an 8 acre family plot, not a mega farm owned by Monsanto.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Oh, Fox News. LOL

So Fox News is making a story based on the claims of a person....No surprise there, perfectly normal for Fox "News".

Since "corporations are people", if one of these large corporate farms in the Midwest wanted to choke off a river that runs through their land and simply create a giant reservoir for themselves to water their own crops only...it would be fine I suppose; you can do what you want with your own land; screw society...right?

Yea, the Corporate "people" don't even have to pay taxes, they even get taxes back when they make Billions due to loopholes.

I guess the moral of this story is the person involved wasn't a Corporate person. If he was he/she could dump toxic waste into a river and get away with it.

Again, the post was based on ONE PERSON stating what is probably a lie, even the article exposed that there is no proof. But the fish will bite if they are bias enough.

(Further, corporations are not people. No business can tell someone how to vote. Corporations are almost guaranteed to have both Left and Right Wing voters. They can not use funding earned by an opposing party on their TEAM to fund a politician. Say's me..)

 

[RoadVirus]

The EPA is an out of control group of thugs.

And we can thank the President HopeNChange for that.

 

[OKTexas]

The pond is exempt from the EPA regulation because the intended purpose is to attract wildlife.
Your precious Obama snot government goons are going to lose this one.

What about the creek he damned - which is the actual issue?

No...The actual issue is a fucking EPA bureaucrat got his or her panties in a wad because his or her ass didn't get sucked..
All these government slugs that get appointed to positions of power think their shit is made of ice cream....
The creek is not dammed. The water is diverted to an impoundment with an outlet that allows the water to flow once again.
Why are you so vociferously against this family?
They are not bothering anyone.

Because they have to set examples that any deviation from the requirements of this regime will not be tolerated.

 

[RoadVirus]

All Andy Johnson wanted to do was build a stock pond on his sprawling eight-acre Wyoming farm. He and his wife Katie spent hours constructing it, filling it with crystal-clear water, and bringing in brook and brown trout, ducks and geese. It was a place where his horses could drink and graze, and a private playground for his three children

But instead of enjoying the fruits of his labor, the Wyoming welder says he was harangued by the federal government, stuck in what he calls a petty power play by the Environmental Protection AgencyHe claims the agency is now threatening him with civil and criminal penalties – including the threat of a $75,000-a-day fine.

Wyoming welder faces $75,000 a day in EPA fines for building pond on his property | Fox News

Fuck the EPA, Fuck the Gov.

Oh, Fox News. LOL

So Fox News is making a story based on the claims of a person....No surprise there, perfectly normal for Fox "News".

Oh...that's right! It wasn't linked to HuffPuff, DailyKhaos or MediaMudders, so it isn't a true story!

 

[RoadVirus]

What makes this guy think that the water in a creek that has egress on his property is HIS water?

Did you miss the part where he has a state permit?

No. Did you miss the part where he needed a Federal permit?

He has a permit, you idiot!

 

[thereisnospoon]

All Andy Johnson wanted to do was build a stock pond on his sprawling eight-acre Wyoming farm. He and his wife Katie spent hours constructing it, filling it with crystal-clear water, and bringing in brook and brown trout, ducks and geese. It was a place where his horses could drink and graze, and a private playground for his three children

But instead of enjoying the fruits of his labor, the Wyoming welder says he was harangued by the federal government, stuck in what he calls a petty power play by the Environmental Protection AgencyHe claims the agency is now threatening him with civil and criminal penalties – including the threat of a $75,000-a-day fine.

Wyoming welder faces $75,000 a day in EPA fines for building pond on his property | Fox News

Fuck the EPA, Fuck the Gov.

Oh, Fox News. LOL

So Fox News is making a story based on the claims of a person....No surprise there, perfectly normal for Fox "News".

Oh...that's right! It wasn't linked to HuffPuff, DailyKhaos or MediaMudders, so it isn't a true story!

That's in the lib playbook. When the facts do not fit the lib template, attack the source.One could tell these libs the sky is blue and their response would be "are you a non liberal? Yes? Well then you must be lying."
I find it rema.....well, the typical lib, no I don't.....I find it unsurprising when a lib makes issue not with what was written, or what was said, but by whom is was written or said.
What I find galling is these libs have been trained so well to believe that only their masters news sources ( NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC) have any credibility. Not only that, these libs have been trained to believe that these networks are balanced in the manner in which they not only report the news but choose what the network execs consider to be news.
To the lib, anything outside that paradigm is to be impugned and discredited.
The words of the libs trouncing Fox News is an indication of this fact.
The libs are incensed over the mere fact that this was reported. They'd rather the government thugs be left to do as they will and never be questioned.

 

[thereisnospoon]

What will they do if he refuses to pay? Send armed thugs to evict him and confiscate his property? Oh right, that's exactly what they'll do. Progressive Paradise.

Of course.
Meanwhile the libs went cuckoo for cocoa puffs when Kroesh refused to come out and cheered when they burned the place down.
The libs cheered when the govt thugs went in and slaughtered those people at Ruby Ridge.
And why is that? Because the dead were viewed as right wing extremists.
And here we go again.
Here we have a conservative state, Wyoming. Libs: Strike one
We have WHITE people that live in a remote area....They MUST be gun toting Bible carrying religious wackos....Libs: Strike two
We have a family that is refusing to be steamrolled by The Chosen One's EPA thugs: Strike three.
If this property belonged to some rainbow flag waiving code pink ACLU member in Vermont, the libs would be shitting their britches.

 

[candycorn]

What will they do if he refuses to pay? Send armed thugs to evict him and confiscate his property? Oh right, that's exactly what they'll do. Progressive Paradise.

Of course.
Meanwhile the libs went cuckoo for cocoa puffs when Kroesh refused to come out and cheered when they burned the place down.
The libs cheered when the govt thugs went in and slaughtered those people at Ruby Ridge.
And why is that? Because the dead were viewed as right wing extremists.
And here we go again.
Here we have a conservative state, Wyoming. Libs: Strike one
We have WHITE people that live in a remote area....They MUST be gun toting Bible carrying religious wackos....Libs: Strike two
We have a family that is refusing to be steamrolled by The Chosen One's EPA thugs: Strike three.
If this property belonged to some rainbow flag waiving code pink ACLU member in Vermont, the libs would be shitting their britches.

My but you progressives just hate the rule of law don't you...

Seems right wing kooks are the ones with the issues with law enforcement.

 

[thereisnospoon]

What will they do if he refuses to pay? Send armed thugs to evict him and confiscate his property? Oh right, that's exactly what they'll do. Progressive Paradise.

Of course.
Meanwhile the libs went cuckoo for cocoa puffs when Kroesh refused to come out and cheered when they burned the place down.
The libs cheered when the govt thugs went in and slaughtered those people at Ruby Ridge.
And why is that? Because the dead were viewed as right wing extremists.
And here we go again.
Here we have a conservative state, Wyoming. Libs: Strike one
We have WHITE people that live in a remote area....They MUST be gun toting Bible carrying religious wackos....Libs: Strike two
We have a family that is refusing to be steamrolled by The Chosen One's EPA thugs: Strike three.
If this property belonged to some rainbow flag waiving code pink ACLU member in Vermont, the libs would be shitting their britches.

My but you progressives just hate the rule of law don't you...

Seems right wing kooks are the ones with the issues with law enforcement.

"seems"......FAIL.....As usual...
Why you bother posting and reveal your stupidity when you should keep it hidden is a mystery.