You don't need much meat.....just a little...

[Mindful]

It’s the vitamin B12.

Its the iron.

That too. I had to have injections once. I was deficient in it.

 

[esalla]

The last to be concerned about with the American diet is the amount of meat.
It is the high sodium, high sugar and highly processed franken-food.
That is what is killing everybody, what has caused such dramatic increases in diabetes and heart disease.

Actually the amount of meat eaten is a factor in heart disease

True as people who eat lean meat and exercise do not have heart disease

The less meat they eat the less likely they are to have heart disease.

Actually diet and exercise are of equal importance. Meat proteins are also superior to vegetable proteins as monkeys and apes prove

It’s the vitamin B12.

B12 is not made by animals.

95% of all the B12 supplements produced are used for the livestock industry.

B12 is naturally made by soil bacteria but since most factory farmed animals do not graze they must be given B12 supplements

Dude there are amino acids in meat that are not found in plants. I can rack pull 600lbs and bicycle 50 miles afterward

7 Nutrients You Canât Get from Plants

Learn about 7 nutrients that you cannot get from commonly consumed plant foods. Vegetarians and vegans may be deficient in some of them.

www.healthline.com

Which ones exactly?

And amino acids do not give you energy

The 5 Strongest Vegans On Earth | BarBend

These record-breaking vegan strength athletes aren't showing any signs of protein deficiencies.

barbend.com

The body can not perform critical functions without amino acids and without those functions sugars can not be metabolized for energy.

Amino acids are tricky, plant based ones are the fewest, then there are the more complete set from dairy and a bigger set from meat. Then there are the essential ones which can not be synthesized in the body from other sources.

Answer eat a balanced diet from all the food groups.

So you wanna rack pull 600lbs with me then bicycle 50 miles to demonstrate the power of lettuce

Whaaaaaaaa

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

I follow the, Linda McCartney diet for years and years. Anyone know a good chemo doctor?

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

I also follow the Robin Gibbs diet for stomach cancer.

 

[esalla]

I follow the, Linda McCartney diet for years and years. Anyone know a good chemo doctor?

Linda died young certainly not a person to follow

 

[Blues Man]

It's the risk of dying from HEART DISEASE you dolt

I believe genes are the most important.

Jim Fixx is widely accepted as the creator of the fitness movement. You know eating right, running all that stuff.

How'd it work out for him?

Do you know what his diet was?

I don't

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

Here is a life long naturalist. Eat pine cones. Die of stomach cancer at 60 something.

 

[airplanemechanic]

I like meat.

For gods sakes I've eaten nutria sausage.

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

I follow the, Linda McCartney diet for years and years. Anyone know a good chemo doctor?

Linda died young certainly not a person to follow

She bragged and bragged about her vegan life. I still have her TV dinners stored in a huge freezer. 30 yrs worth still.

 

[jc456]

We eat far too much meat in this nation....I'm not complaining but it's the truth. There are plenty of protein sources that can sustain us with less expense and much less strain to our physical being than meat causes.

Years ago I knew a vegan who suffered from protein deficiency and he refused to take his doctor's advice to have one or two buffalo burgers a month...." That's all you need " he said....but because my friend was a religious Vegan he held out. Eventually he developed a horrible open sore on his nose that made it impossible for him to do his job as a department administrator who had to face dozens of people every day....so after checking with his Maharishi or whoever the hell his spiritual counselor was he decided to do two buffalo burgers a month..... Voila! His sore healed up is a matter of a few weeks and to this day this is all the meat he consumes..

JO

no one gets to tell me what I eat. I give a shit your politics. you stick with your needs and I will mine. stay out of mine and I will stay away from yours. why is that so difficult for people?

 

[Blues Man]

The last to be concerned about with the American diet is the amount of meat.
It is the high sodium, high sugar and highly processed franken-food.
That is what is killing everybody, what has caused such dramatic increases in diabetes and heart disease.

Actually the amount of meat eaten is a factor in heart disease

Not nearly too the extent of high sodium/sugar.
Our bodies are designed to process meat. Sure, it was never meant to process two big macs for lunch, a steak for dinner and bacon for breakfast, and then sit around and watch TV all day - but that is not a reasonable amount.
Diet is about moderation and balance... including meat. As well as caloric intake, and how active you are.
Look at the folks who live in the extreme north, they live on a high-high fat diet with a LOT of meat. And they have less problems than we do. But they are also 3 times as active and their bodies burn a ton calories staying warm.

Actually we are far closer to gorillas in our digestive system than to lions.

And if you want to talk about evolution then you have to take into account that humans ate far less meat than they do today and that meat was all wild game and nothing like the overly fattened, steroid and antibiotic ridden meats of today

Bu the fact remains that meat is not a neceesary part of a healthy diet

Wrong again.
Humans would never have evolved to be what we are if we maintained a plant based diet.
The fact we evolved with vastly superior intelligence is because we ate meat.
The more intelligent a being is, the more protein and carbohydrates it needs to function properly.
Again, that doesn't mean one needs to eat 2000 calories of meat a day by any stretch, but the fact is meat is an outstanding source of protein as well as the pleasure of eating it is scientifically proven to improve our moods.
Meat is good for you. In moderation, and combined with a healthy balance of vegetables and fruits.
Saying otherwise is just dumb.

I never said anything about evolution but prehistoric man did not eat the amount of meat we are eating today and the meat eaten back then was not the over fattened, steroid and antibiotic ridden shit it is today.

And in those times eating meat was a matter of survival but it is not necessary to eat meat in this day and age

Silly post.
I get all of my meat from a local butcher that has written guarantees all over their store that all of the meat comes from within 100 miles of the store and none from meat processing plants. Chickens are all grown by 2 different Amish chicken farms a county away.
You will get no argument from me on corporate franken-foods.
For the silly part... it would be totally inconceivable to believe that 7.6 BILLION people on this planet could survive on only vegetables. That is laughably dumb and naive.

Most of the crops grown in the world are fed to livestock so we could easily feed everyone without meat.

But why are you making up arguments and attributing them to me?

I never said anything about the entire population going vegan even though it is entirely possible

 

[jc456]

We eat far too much meat in this nation....I'm not complaining but it's the truth. There are plenty of protein sources that can sustain us with less expense and much less strain to our physical being than meat causes.

Years ago I knew a vegan who suffered from protein deficiency and he refused to take his doctor's advice to have one or two buffalo burgers a month...." That's all you need " he said....but because my friend was a religious Vegan he held out. Eventually he developed a horrible open sore on his nose that made it impossible for him to do his job as a department administrator who had to face dozens of people every day....so after checking with his Maharishi or whoever the hell his spiritual counselor was he decided to do two buffalo burgers a month..... Voila! His sore healed up is a matter of a few weeks and to this day this is all the meat he consumes..

JO

you don't need to eat any meat at all.

I have been following a fellow named Marcus Rothkranz who is a vegan and a prolific health writer
he is 50 and looks like he's 27. He does say however that should you choose to be a vegan you must do it correctly. That I believe.

JO

It's easy to do correctly

I adopted a whole food vegan diet 3 months ago and feel so good I don't think I'll ever go back to eating meat.

blues, good for you. I'm good with who I am. I love my meat, I will do what I want. welcome back to america.

 

[Blues Man]

I follow the, Linda McCartney diet for years and years. Anyone know a good chemo doctor?

Linda died young certainly not a person to follow

She bragged and bragged about her vegan life. I still have her TV dinners stored in a huge freezer. 30 yrs worth still.

That's still processed shit food

 

[esalla]

I follow the, Linda McCartney diet for years and years. Anyone know a good chemo doctor?

Linda died young certainly not a person to follow

She bragged and bragged about her vegan life. I still have her TV dinners stored in a huge freezer. 30 yrs worth still.

And she died young, so she stopped bragging a long time ago.

 

[jc456]

The last to be concerned about with the American diet is the amount of meat.
It is the high sodium, high sugar and highly processed franken-food.
That is what is killing everybody, what has caused such dramatic increases in diabetes and heart disease.

Actually the amount of meat eaten is a factor in heart disease

Not nearly too the extent of high sodium/sugar.
Our bodies are designed to process meat. Sure, it was never meant to process two big macs for lunch, a steak for dinner and bacon for breakfast, and then sit around and watch TV all day - but that is not a reasonable amount.
Diet is about moderation and balance... including meat. As well as caloric intake, and how active you are.
Look at the folks who live in the extreme north, they live on a high-high fat diet with a LOT of meat. And they have less problems than we do. But they are also 3 times as active and their bodies burn a ton calories staying warm.

Actually we are far closer to gorillas in our digestive system than to lions.

And if you want to talk about evolution then you have to take into account that humans ate far less meat than they do today and that meat was all wild game and nothing like the overly fattened, steroid and antibiotic ridden meats of today

Bu the fact remains that meat is not a neceesary part of a healthy diet

Wrong again.
Humans would never have evolved to be what we are if we maintained a plant based diet.
The fact we evolved with vastly superior intelligence is because we ate meat.
The more intelligent a being is, the more protein and carbohydrates it needs to function properly.
Again, that doesn't mean one needs to eat 2000 calories of meat a day by any stretch, but the fact is meat is an outstanding source of protein as well as the pleasure of eating it is scientifically proven to improve our moods.
Meat is good for you. In moderation, and combined with a healthy balance of vegetables and fruits.
Saying otherwise is just dumb.

I never said anything about evolution but prehistoric man did not eat the amount of meat we are eating today and the meat eaten back then was not the over fattened, steroid and antibiotic ridden shit it is today.

And in those times eating meat was a matter of survival but it is not necessary to eat meat in this day and age

Silly post.
I get all of my meat from a local butcher that has written guarantees all over their store that all of the meat comes from within 100 miles of the store and none from meat processing plants. Chickens are all grown by 2 different Amish chicken farms a county away.
You will get no argument from me on corporate franken-foods.
For the silly part... it would be totally inconceivable to believe that 7.6 BILLION people on this planet could survive on only vegetables. That is laughably dumb and naive.

Most of the crops grown in the world are fed to livestock so we could easily feed everyone without meat.

But why are you making up arguments and attributing them to me?

I never said anything about the entire population going vegan even though it is entirely possible

why do you want us to stop eating meet exactly? I thought you were conservative, why are you acting like a Leftist?

 

[esalla]

I follow the, Linda McCartney diet for years and years. Anyone know a good chemo doctor?

Linda died young certainly not a person to follow

She bragged and bragged about her vegan life. I still have her TV dinners stored in a huge freezer. 30 yrs worth still.

That's still processed shit food

Exactly

 

[Blues Man]

We eat far too much meat in this nation....I'm not complaining but it's the truth. There are plenty of protein sources that can sustain us with less expense and much less strain to our physical being than meat causes.

Years ago I knew a vegan who suffered from protein deficiency and he refused to take his doctor's advice to have one or two buffalo burgers a month...." That's all you need " he said....but because my friend was a religious Vegan he held out. Eventually he developed a horrible open sore on his nose that made it impossible for him to do his job as a department administrator who had to face dozens of people every day....so after checking with his Maharishi or whoever the hell his spiritual counselor was he decided to do two buffalo burgers a month..... Voila! His sore healed up is a matter of a few weeks and to this day this is all the meat he consumes..

JO

you don't need to eat any meat at all.

I have been following a fellow named Marcus Rothkranz who is a vegan and a prolific health writer
he is 50 and looks like he's 27. He does say however that should you choose to be a vegan you must do it correctly. That I believe.

JO

It's easy to do correctly

I adopted a whole food vegan diet 3 months ago and feel so good I don't think I'll ever go back to eating meat.

blues, good for you. I'm good with who I am. I love my meat, I will do what I want. welcome back to america.

Where did I ever tell anyone what to eat?

I will correct false assumptions when they arise but I don't care what anyone else does

 

[jc456]

I follow the, Linda McCartney diet for years and years. Anyone know a good chemo doctor?

Linda died young certainly not a person to follow

She bragged and bragged about her vegan life. I still have her TV dinners stored in a huge freezer. 30 yrs worth still.

That's still processed shit food

so what? why do you care what he eats?

 

[esalla]

The last to be concerned about with the American diet is the amount of meat.
It is the high sodium, high sugar and highly processed franken-food.
That is what is killing everybody, what has caused such dramatic increases in diabetes and heart disease.

Actually the amount of meat eaten is a factor in heart disease

Not nearly too the extent of high sodium/sugar.
Our bodies are designed to process meat. Sure, it was never meant to process two big macs for lunch, a steak for dinner and bacon for breakfast, and then sit around and watch TV all day - but that is not a reasonable amount.
Diet is about moderation and balance... including meat. As well as caloric intake, and how active you are.
Look at the folks who live in the extreme north, they live on a high-high fat diet with a LOT of meat. And they have less problems than we do. But they are also 3 times as active and their bodies burn a ton calories staying warm.

Actually we are far closer to gorillas in our digestive system than to lions.

And if you want to talk about evolution then you have to take into account that humans ate far less meat than they do today and that meat was all wild game and nothing like the overly fattened, steroid and antibiotic ridden meats of today

Bu the fact remains that meat is not a neceesary part of a healthy diet

Wrong again.
Humans would never have evolved to be what we are if we maintained a plant based diet.
The fact we evolved with vastly superior intelligence is because we ate meat.
The more intelligent a being is, the more protein and carbohydrates it needs to function properly.
Again, that doesn't mean one needs to eat 2000 calories of meat a day by any stretch, but the fact is meat is an outstanding source of protein as well as the pleasure of eating it is scientifically proven to improve our moods.
Meat is good for you. In moderation, and combined with a healthy balance of vegetables and fruits.
Saying otherwise is just dumb.

I never said anything about evolution but prehistoric man did not eat the amount of meat we are eating today and the meat eaten back then was not the over fattened, steroid and antibiotic ridden shit it is today.

And in those times eating meat was a matter of survival but it is not necessary to eat meat in this day and age

Silly post.
I get all of my meat from a local butcher that has written guarantees all over their store that all of the meat comes from within 100 miles of the store and none from meat processing plants. Chickens are all grown by 2 different Amish chicken farms a county away.
You will get no argument from me on corporate franken-foods.
For the silly part... it would be totally inconceivable to believe that 7.6 BILLION people on this planet could survive on only vegetables. That is laughably dumb and naive.

Most of the crops grown in the world are fed to livestock so we could easily feed everyone without meat.

But why are you making up arguments and attributing them to me?

I never said anything about the entire population going vegan even though it is entirely possible

why do you want us to stop eating meet exactly? I thought you were conservative, why are you acting like a Leftist?

Veggies are all mental

 

[Blues Man]

The last to be concerned about with the American diet is the amount of meat.
It is the high sodium, high sugar and highly processed franken-food.
That is what is killing everybody, what has caused such dramatic increases in diabetes and heart disease.

Actually the amount of meat eaten is a factor in heart disease

Not nearly too the extent of high sodium/sugar.
Our bodies are designed to process meat. Sure, it was never meant to process two big macs for lunch, a steak for dinner and bacon for breakfast, and then sit around and watch TV all day - but that is not a reasonable amount.
Diet is about moderation and balance... including meat. As well as caloric intake, and how active you are.
Look at the folks who live in the extreme north, they live on a high-high fat diet with a LOT of meat. And they have less problems than we do. But they are also 3 times as active and their bodies burn a ton calories staying warm.

Actually we are far closer to gorillas in our digestive system than to lions.

And if you want to talk about evolution then you have to take into account that humans ate far less meat than they do today and that meat was all wild game and nothing like the overly fattened, steroid and antibiotic ridden meats of today

Bu the fact remains that meat is not a neceesary part of a healthy diet

Wrong again.
Humans would never have evolved to be what we are if we maintained a plant based diet.
The fact we evolved with vastly superior intelligence is because we ate meat.
The more intelligent a being is, the more protein and carbohydrates it needs to function properly.
Again, that doesn't mean one needs to eat 2000 calories of meat a day by any stretch, but the fact is meat is an outstanding source of protein as well as the pleasure of eating it is scientifically proven to improve our moods.
Meat is good for you. In moderation, and combined with a healthy balance of vegetables and fruits.
Saying otherwise is just dumb.

I never said anything about evolution but prehistoric man did not eat the amount of meat we are eating today and the meat eaten back then was not the over fattened, steroid and antibiotic ridden shit it is today.

And in those times eating meat was a matter of survival but it is not necessary to eat meat in this day and age

Silly post.
I get all of my meat from a local butcher that has written guarantees all over their store that all of the meat comes from within 100 miles of the store and none from meat processing plants. Chickens are all grown by 2 different Amish chicken farms a county away.
You will get no argument from me on corporate franken-foods.
For the silly part... it would be totally inconceivable to believe that 7.6 BILLION people on this planet could survive on only vegetables. That is laughably dumb and naive.

Most of the crops grown in the world are fed to livestock so we could easily feed everyone without meat.

But why are you making up arguments and attributing them to me?

I never said anything about the entire population going vegan even though it is entirely possible

why do you want us to stop eating meet exactly? I thought you were conservative, why are you acting like a Leftist?

OK where did i say that?

Please quote the post where I said I want you all to stop eating meat.

In the future don't make up arguments and attribute them to me