You don't need much meat.....just a little...

[jc456]

We eat far too much meat in this nation....I'm not complaining but it's the truth. There are plenty of protein sources that can sustain us with less expense and much less strain to our physical being than meat causes.

Years ago I knew a vegan who suffered from protein deficiency and he refused to take his doctor's advice to have one or two buffalo burgers a month...." That's all you need " he said....but because my friend was a religious Vegan he held out. Eventually he developed a horrible open sore on his nose that made it impossible for him to do his job as a department administrator who had to face dozens of people every day....so after checking with his Maharishi or whoever the hell his spiritual counselor was he decided to do two buffalo burgers a month..... Voila! His sore healed up is a matter of a few weeks and to this day this is all the meat he consumes..

JO

you don't need to eat any meat at all.

I have been following a fellow named Marcus Rothkranz who is a vegan and a prolific health writer
he is 50 and looks like he's 27. He does say however that should you choose to be a vegan you must do it correctly. That I believe.

JO

It's easy to do correctly

I adopted a whole food vegan diet 3 months ago and feel so good I don't think I'll ever go back to eating meat.

blues, good for you. I'm good with who I am. I love my meat, I will do what I want. welcome back to america.

Where did I ever tell anyone what to eat?

I will correct false assumptions when they arise but I don't care what anyone else does

seems you are forcing an agenda here. stay with what you like and we'll stay with what we like. I promise, I won't make any attempt to tell anyone what to eat.

 

[Blues Man]

I follow the, Linda McCartney diet for years and years. Anyone know a good chemo doctor?

Linda died young certainly not a person to follow

She bragged and bragged about her vegan life. I still have her TV dinners stored in a huge freezer. 30 yrs worth still.

That's still processed shit food

so what? why do you care what he eats?

Where did i say I cared?

I simply stated a fact

 

[airplanemechanic]

If you want to stop eating meat just start eating at Taco Bell. Promise nothing there is real meat.

 

[jc456]

The last to be concerned about with the American diet is the amount of meat.
It is the high sodium, high sugar and highly processed franken-food.
That is what is killing everybody, what has caused such dramatic increases in diabetes and heart disease.

Actually the amount of meat eaten is a factor in heart disease

Not nearly too the extent of high sodium/sugar.
Our bodies are designed to process meat. Sure, it was never meant to process two big macs for lunch, a steak for dinner and bacon for breakfast, and then sit around and watch TV all day - but that is not a reasonable amount.
Diet is about moderation and balance... including meat. As well as caloric intake, and how active you are.
Look at the folks who live in the extreme north, they live on a high-high fat diet with a LOT of meat. And they have less problems than we do. But they are also 3 times as active and their bodies burn a ton calories staying warm.

Actually we are far closer to gorillas in our digestive system than to lions.

And if you want to talk about evolution then you have to take into account that humans ate far less meat than they do today and that meat was all wild game and nothing like the overly fattened, steroid and antibiotic ridden meats of today

Bu the fact remains that meat is not a neceesary part of a healthy diet

Wrong again.
Humans would never have evolved to be what we are if we maintained a plant based diet.
The fact we evolved with vastly superior intelligence is because we ate meat.
The more intelligent a being is, the more protein and carbohydrates it needs to function properly.
Again, that doesn't mean one needs to eat 2000 calories of meat a day by any stretch, but the fact is meat is an outstanding source of protein as well as the pleasure of eating it is scientifically proven to improve our moods.
Meat is good for you. In moderation, and combined with a healthy balance of vegetables and fruits.
Saying otherwise is just dumb.

I never said anything about evolution but prehistoric man did not eat the amount of meat we are eating today and the meat eaten back then was not the over fattened, steroid and antibiotic ridden shit it is today.

And in those times eating meat was a matter of survival but it is not necessary to eat meat in this day and age

Silly post.
I get all of my meat from a local butcher that has written guarantees all over their store that all of the meat comes from within 100 miles of the store and none from meat processing plants. Chickens are all grown by 2 different Amish chicken farms a county away.
You will get no argument from me on corporate franken-foods.
For the silly part... it would be totally inconceivable to believe that 7.6 BILLION people on this planet could survive on only vegetables. That is laughably dumb and naive.

Most of the crops grown in the world are fed to livestock so we could easily feed everyone without meat.

But why are you making up arguments and attributing them to me?

I never said anything about the entire population going vegan even though it is entirely possible

why do you want us to stop eating meet exactly? I thought you were conservative, why are you acting like a Leftist?

OK where did i say that?

Please quote the post where I said I want you all to stop eating meat.

In the future don't make up arguments and attribute them to me

Most of the crops grown in the world are fed to livestock so we could easily feed everyone without meat.

 

[jc456]

I follow the, Linda McCartney diet for years and years. Anyone know a good chemo doctor?

Linda died young certainly not a person to follow

She bragged and bragged about her vegan life. I still have her TV dinners stored in a huge freezer. 30 yrs worth still.

That's still processed shit food

so what? why do you care what he eats?

Where did i say I cared?

I simply stated a fact

that's your opinion.

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

I follow the, Linda McCartney diet for years and years. Anyone know a good chemo doctor?

Linda died young certainly not a person to follow

She bragged and bragged about her vegan life. I still have her TV dinners stored in a huge freezer. 30 yrs worth still.

That's still processed shit food

She started that crap not long before she died. Lol. I still eat those dinners daily.

 

[Blues Man]

We eat far too much meat in this nation....I'm not complaining but it's the truth. There are plenty of protein sources that can sustain us with less expense and much less strain to our physical being than meat causes.

Years ago I knew a vegan who suffered from protein deficiency and he refused to take his doctor's advice to have one or two buffalo burgers a month...." That's all you need " he said....but because my friend was a religious Vegan he held out. Eventually he developed a horrible open sore on his nose that made it impossible for him to do his job as a department administrator who had to face dozens of people every day....so after checking with his Maharishi or whoever the hell his spiritual counselor was he decided to do two buffalo burgers a month..... Voila! His sore healed up is a matter of a few weeks and to this day this is all the meat he consumes..

JO

you don't need to eat any meat at all.

I have been following a fellow named Marcus Rothkranz who is a vegan and a prolific health writer
he is 50 and looks like he's 27. He does say however that should you choose to be a vegan you must do it correctly. That I believe.

JO

It's easy to do correctly

I adopted a whole food vegan diet 3 months ago and feel so good I don't think I'll ever go back to eating meat.

blues, good for you. I'm good with who I am. I love my meat, I will do what I want. welcome back to america.

Where did I ever tell anyone what to eat?

I will correct false assumptions when they arise but I don't care what anyone else does

seems you are forcing an agenda here. stay with what you like and we'll stay with what we like. I promise, I won't make any attempt to tell anyone what to eat.

No it's you who think I am forcing an agenda.

All I ever said was meat is not necessary. I will correct false assumptions though.

WHat are you so defensive about?

 

[jc456]

The last to be concerned about with the American diet is the amount of meat.
It is the high sodium, high sugar and highly processed franken-food.
That is what is killing everybody, what has caused such dramatic increases in diabetes and heart disease.

Actually the amount of meat eaten is a factor in heart disease

Not nearly too the extent of high sodium/sugar.
Our bodies are designed to process meat. Sure, it was never meant to process two big macs for lunch, a steak for dinner and bacon for breakfast, and then sit around and watch TV all day - but that is not a reasonable amount.
Diet is about moderation and balance... including meat. As well as caloric intake, and how active you are.
Look at the folks who live in the extreme north, they live on a high-high fat diet with a LOT of meat. And they have less problems than we do. But they are also 3 times as active and their bodies burn a ton calories staying warm.

Actually we are far closer to gorillas in our digestive system than to lions.

And if you want to talk about evolution then you have to take into account that humans ate far less meat than they do today and that meat was all wild game and nothing like the overly fattened, steroid and antibiotic ridden meats of today

Bu the fact remains that meat is not a neceesary part of a healthy diet

Wrong again.
Humans would never have evolved to be what we are if we maintained a plant based diet.
The fact we evolved with vastly superior intelligence is because we ate meat.
The more intelligent a being is, the more protein and carbohydrates it needs to function properly.
Again, that doesn't mean one needs to eat 2000 calories of meat a day by any stretch, but the fact is meat is an outstanding source of protein as well as the pleasure of eating it is scientifically proven to improve our moods.
Meat is good for you. In moderation, and combined with a healthy balance of vegetables and fruits.
Saying otherwise is just dumb.

I never said anything about evolution but prehistoric man did not eat the amount of meat we are eating today and the meat eaten back then was not the over fattened, steroid and antibiotic ridden shit it is today.

And in those times eating meat was a matter of survival but it is not necessary to eat meat in this day and age

Silly post.
I get all of my meat from a local butcher that has written guarantees all over their store that all of the meat comes from within 100 miles of the store and none from meat processing plants. Chickens are all grown by 2 different Amish chicken farms a county away.
You will get no argument from me on corporate franken-foods.
For the silly part... it would be totally inconceivable to believe that 7.6 BILLION people on this planet could survive on only vegetables. That is laughably dumb and naive.

Most of the crops grown in the world are fed to livestock so we could easily feed everyone without meat.

But why are you making up arguments and attributing them to me?

I never said anything about the entire population going vegan even though it is entirely possible

why do you want us to stop eating meet exactly? I thought you were conservative, why are you acting like a Leftist?

OK where did i say that?

Please quote the post where I said I want you all to stop eating meat.

In the future don't make up arguments and attribute them to me

Most of the crops grown in the world are fed to livestock so we could easily feed everyone without meat.

 

[Blues Man]

I follow the, Linda McCartney diet for years and years. Anyone know a good chemo doctor?

Linda died young certainly not a person to follow

She bragged and bragged about her vegan life. I still have her TV dinners stored in a huge freezer. 30 yrs worth still.

That's still processed shit food

so what? why do you care what he eats?

Where did i say I cared?

I simply stated a fact

that's your opinion.

Frozen packaged food be it vegean, vegetarian or contains meat is the very definition of processed foods

 

[esalla]

I follow the, Linda McCartney diet for years and years. Anyone know a good chemo doctor?

Linda died young certainly not a person to follow

She bragged and bragged about her vegan life. I still have her TV dinners stored in a huge freezer. 30 yrs worth still.

That's still processed shit food

She started that crap not long before she died. Lol. I still eat those dinners daily.

What was Linda McCartney known for in the health or nutrition field, other than nothing

 

[jc456]

We eat far too much meat in this nation....I'm not complaining but it's the truth. There are plenty of protein sources that can sustain us with less expense and much less strain to our physical being than meat causes.

Years ago I knew a vegan who suffered from protein deficiency and he refused to take his doctor's advice to have one or two buffalo burgers a month...." That's all you need " he said....but because my friend was a religious Vegan he held out. Eventually he developed a horrible open sore on his nose that made it impossible for him to do his job as a department administrator who had to face dozens of people every day....so after checking with his Maharishi or whoever the hell his spiritual counselor was he decided to do two buffalo burgers a month..... Voila! His sore healed up is a matter of a few weeks and to this day this is all the meat he consumes..

JO

you don't need to eat any meat at all.

I have been following a fellow named Marcus Rothkranz who is a vegan and a prolific health writer
he is 50 and looks like he's 27. He does say however that should you choose to be a vegan you must do it correctly. That I believe.

JO

It's easy to do correctly

I adopted a whole food vegan diet 3 months ago and feel so good I don't think I'll ever go back to eating meat.

blues, good for you. I'm good with who I am. I love my meat, I will do what I want. welcome back to america.

Where did I ever tell anyone what to eat?

I will correct false assumptions when they arise but I don't care what anyone else does

seems you are forcing an agenda here. stay with what you like and we'll stay with what we like. I promise, I won't make any attempt to tell anyone what to eat.

No it's you who think I am forcing an agenda.

All I ever said was meat is not necessary. I will correct false assumptions though.

WHat are you so defensive about?

people believing they should force their way on others. stay in your world.

 

[Dick Foster]

I wouldn't want to spoil my pretty face, so I'll eat meat every day.

Lots and lots of bacon because everything's better with bacon.

 

[esalla]

I follow the, Linda McCartney diet for years and years. Anyone know a good chemo doctor?

Linda died young certainly not a person to follow

She bragged and bragged about her vegan life. I still have her TV dinners stored in a huge freezer. 30 yrs worth still.

That's still processed shit food

so what? why do you care what he eats?

Where did i say I cared?

I simply stated a fact

that's your opinion.

Frozen packaged food be it vegean, vegetarian or contains meat is the very definition of processed foods

No they are better for morons that are too stupid to cut fresh vegetables

 

[jc456]

I follow the, Linda McCartney diet for years and years. Anyone know a good chemo doctor?

Linda died young certainly not a person to follow

She bragged and bragged about her vegan life. I still have her TV dinners stored in a huge freezer. 30 yrs worth still.

That's still processed shit food

so what? why do you care what he eats?

Where did i say I cared?

I simply stated a fact

that's your opinion.

Frozen packaged food be it vegean, vegetarian or contains meat is the very definition of processed foods

yep, doesn't make them shitty if you don't think they are. that's your opinion. sorry bubba. you are really reeling here.

 

[jc456]

I follow the, Linda McCartney diet for years and years. Anyone know a good chemo doctor?

Linda died young certainly not a person to follow

She bragged and bragged about her vegan life. I still have her TV dinners stored in a huge freezer. 30 yrs worth still.

That's still processed shit food

so what? why do you care what he eats?

Where did i say I cared?

I simply stated a fact

that's your opinion.

Frozen packaged food be it vegean, vegetarian or contains meat is the very definition of processed foods

No they are better for morons that are too stupid to cut fresh vegetables

convenience.

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

I follow the, Linda McCartney diet for years and years. Anyone know a good chemo doctor?

Linda died young certainly not a person to follow

She bragged and bragged about her vegan life. I still have her TV dinners stored in a huge freezer. 30 yrs worth still.

That's still processed shit food

She started that crap not long before she died. Lol. I still eat those dinners daily.

What was Linda McCartney known for in the health or nutrition field, other than nothing

This? What does being a nutritionist got to do with a vegan diet?

 

[Dick Foster]

..I surf radio channels in the mornings and they have these expert farmers on one...I thought they said corn planting is up this year from last...I think .....

One thing we don't need any more of is fucking corn. They invent ways to get rid of the shit now like the fucking ethanol scam and high fructose corn syrup that's killing us off with type II diabetes. The government needs to stop subsidizing that shit like 4 or 5 decades ago.

 

[jc456]

I follow the, Linda McCartney diet for years and years. Anyone know a good chemo doctor?

Linda died young certainly not a person to follow

She bragged and bragged about her vegan life. I still have her TV dinners stored in a huge freezer. 30 yrs worth still.

That's still processed shit food

She started that crap not long before she died. Lol. I still eat those dinners daily.

What was Linda McCartney known for in the health or nutrition field, other than nothing

This? What does being a nutritionist got to do with a vegan diet?

why do you think anyone cares about you being vegan?

 

[esalla]

I follow the, Linda McCartney diet for years and years. Anyone know a good chemo doctor?

Linda died young certainly not a person to follow

She bragged and bragged about her vegan life. I still have her TV dinners stored in a huge freezer. 30 yrs worth still.

That's still processed shit food

She started that crap not long before she died. Lol. I still eat those dinners daily.

What was Linda McCartney known for in the health or nutrition field, other than nothing

This? What does being a nutritionist got to do with a vegan diet?

She was not a nutritionist she was paul McCartney's wife you stupid brit

 

[MeBelle]

Elk and Bison....mmmm..mmm

Deer and Moose ....mmmmm...mmmm