You know who is really to blame for the Gov.'s shutdown?

Open Border Dems and the establishment clowns who haven't secured the border for decades while serving are at fault.........

People are tired of it.........want it secure...........and are tired of the BS..........Trump either stands up and shuts it down or he's lost creditibility with the people.

He knows it.........and we'll see.........Pelosi and Schumer are open borders clear as day now............Schumer offered a deal for the elections........then withdrew it after Trump accepted it......

Couple of OPEN Border asshats.
Liar...pelosi a.d Schumer aren't pro open borders.
 
Open Border Dems and the establishment clowns who haven't secured the border for decades while serving are at fault.........

People are tired of it.........want it secure...........and are tired of the BS..........Trump either stands up and shuts it down or he's lost creditibility with the people.

He knows it.........and we'll see.........Pelosi and Schumer are open borders clear as day now............Schumer offered a deal for the elections........then withdrew it after Trump accepted it......

Couple of OPEN Border asshats.
Liar...pelosi a.d Schumer aren't pro open borders.
Of course they are.
 
Open Border Dems and the establishment clowns who haven't secured the border for decades while serving are at fault.........

People are tired of it.........want it secure...........and are tired of the BS..........Trump either stands up and shuts it down or he's lost creditibility with the people.

He knows it.........and we'll see.........Pelosi and Schumer are open borders clear as day now............Schumer offered a deal for the elections........then withdrew it after Trump accepted it......

Couple of OPEN Border asshats.

Only a complete fool believes that Democrats want open borders and illegal immigration. Obama deported far more illegals than Trump has, and he was prepared to try to change immigration policies, but the ONLY way you are going to stop illegal immigration is to stop employers from hiring illegals.

300,000 Mexicans self-deported between 2008 and 2011, because there were no jobs. If it's impossible for them to be hired, they won't come.
 
Open Border Dems and the establishment clowns who haven't secured the border for decades while serving are at fault.........

People are tired of it.........want it secure...........and are tired of the BS..........Trump either stands up and shuts it down or he's lost creditibility with the people.

He knows it.........and we'll see.........Pelosi and Schumer are open borders clear as day now............Schumer offered a deal for the elections........then withdrew it after Trump accepted it......

Couple of OPEN Border asshats.

Only a complete fool believes that Democrats want open borders and illegal immigration. Obama deported far more illegals than Trump has, and he was prepared to try to change immigration policies, but the ONLY way you are going to stop illegal immigration is to stop employers from hiring illegals.

300,000 Mexicans self-deported between 2008 and 2011, because there were no jobs. If it's impossible for them to be hired, they won't come.
Obama had to change the definition of deporting to get to the numbers he claimed.
Using the same criteria as Obama, prior presidents far exceeded Obama's numbers.

Having said that....Obama had 8 years of deportations to Trump's two years......so as of now, you may be right.
 
Only dishonest Republicans would propagate the lie that Democrats want ‘open borders’ or ‘illegal immigration.’

In fact, Democrats support the $1.6 billion the Senate proposes for border security – actual border security – not the waste of money and resources for Trump’s ‘wall’ of bigotry, fear, and hate; a ‘wall’ which would do nothing to contribute to border security.
 
Only dishonest Republicans would propagate the lie that Democrats want ‘open borders’ or ‘illegal immigration.’

In fact, Democrats support the $1.6 billion the Senate proposes for border security – actual border security – not the waste of money and resources for Trump’s ‘wall’ of bigotry, fear, and hate; a ‘wall’ which would do nothing to contribute to border security.
Yeah, walls work in other countries, just not ours.:rolleyes-41:
 
That moron in Chief sure gets a lot of work done.

The moron in OP should look up the term moron. Perhaps his ability to recognize a moron is a start.
 
Open Border Dems and the establishment clowns who haven't secured the border for decades while serving are at fault.........

People are tired of it.........want it secure...........and are tired of the BS..........Trump either stands up and shuts it down or he's lost creditibility with the people.

He knows it.........and we'll see.........Pelosi and Schumer are open borders clear as day now............Schumer offered a deal for the elections........then withdrew it after Trump accepted it......

Couple of OPEN Border asshats.

Only a complete fool believes that Democrats want open borders and illegal immigration. Obama deported far more illegals than Trump has, and he was prepared to try to change immigration policies, but the ONLY way you are going to stop illegal immigration is to stop employers from hiring illegals.

300,000 Mexicans self-deported between 2008 and 2011, because there were no jobs. If it's impossible for them to be hired, they won't come.
Obama had to change the definition of deporting to get to the numbers he claimed.
Using the same criteria as Obama, prior presidents far exceeded Obama's numbers.

Having said that....Obama had 8 years of deportations to Trump's two years......so as of now, you may be right.

I was comparing Obama's deportations in the first TWO YEARS of his term. Trump talks about deporting illegals. Obama DID it.
 
Open Border Dems and the establishment clowns who haven't secured the border for decades while serving are at fault.........

People are tired of it.........want it secure...........and are tired of the BS..........Trump either stands up and shuts it down or he's lost creditibility with the people.

He knows it.........and we'll see.........Pelosi and Schumer are open borders clear as day now............Schumer offered a deal for the elections........then withdrew it after Trump accepted it......

Couple of OPEN Border asshats.

Only a complete fool believes that Democrats want open borders and illegal immigration. Obama deported far more illegals than Trump has, and he was prepared to try to change immigration policies, but the ONLY way you are going to stop illegal immigration is to stop employers from hiring illegals.

300,000 Mexicans self-deported between 2008 and 2011, because there were no jobs. If it's impossible for them to be hired, they won't come.
Obama had to change the definition of deporting to get to the numbers he claimed.
Using the same criteria as Obama, prior presidents far exceeded Obama's numbers.

Having said that....Obama had 8 years of deportations to Trump's two years......so as of now, you may be right.

I was comparing Obama's deportations in the first TWO YEARS of his term. Trump talks about deporting illegals. Obama DID it.
(I guess) I'll just have to take your word for it.
 
Let's face it......Its the fault of those darn Mexicans...who still steadfastly refuse to pay for that wall.

Seriously, Trump is basically bitching that he would never get re-elected if that moronic promise to build a wall is unfulfilled.....

However, the moron-in-chief NO LONGER ask his hypnotized rally-cult members to shout back to his mantra regarding....."and who is going to pay for the wall???"

Wake up Trump acolytes......

The Dems will be blamed for a shutdown.

The Senate will vote tonight and if there is no solution there will be no
bill for the Prez to Veto. The Govt closes at Midnight with no bill
from Congress.

Congress didn't act. The House sent the Senate a Bill...the Dems would
not support it. The Dems shut the Govt down.

Pretty simple stuff.

Now Schumer is going to lean on McConnell to bail him out but I
doubt Mitch will go along with that. The Dems have reneged on their
promise from last February. Mitch will remind them of that.

Schumer, is probably going to be better off, not doing anything in the
way of a compromise and putting everything in Pelosi's lap in January.

Then she'll have to cave because The Donald won't, and I don't believe
the Dems want to go to 2020 with a Govt that they have shutdown for two
years.
 
The above moron forgets that Obama DOUBLED the number of border patrol agents to 20,000........

So why do we still have so many people illegally streaming across the border?
 
Scrap the wall open the border to bounty hunting.


The above moron forgets that Obama DOUBLED the number of border patrol agents to 20,000........So, idiots like Tipsy is basically saying that without a wall, these 20,000 are WORTHLESS.

Please do not breed more idiots.

And wanted to double it yet again. The bi- partisan Senate bill of 2013 would have added 700 miles of border fencing as well as raising the number of border agents to 38k. Alas, the Republican House ignored the bill.
 
And wanted to double it yet again. The bi- partisan Senate bill of 2013 would have added 700 miles of border fencing as well as raising the number of border agents to 38k. Alas, the Republican House ignored the bill.


You know WHY they IGNORED the bill???

Anything that would have been successful while Obama was in the WH was a freaking anathema for House republicans.
 
Open Border Dems and the establishment clowns who haven't secured the border for decades while serving are at fault.........

People are tired of it.........want it secure...........and are tired of the BS..........Trump either stands up and shuts it down or he's lost creditibility with the people.

He knows it.........and we'll see.........Pelosi and Schumer are open borders clear as day now............Schumer offered a deal for the elections........then withdrew it after Trump accepted it......

Couple of OPEN Border asshats.

Only a complete fool believes that Democrats want open borders and illegal immigration. Obama deported far more illegals than Trump has, and he was prepared to try to change immigration policies, but the ONLY way you are going to stop illegal immigration is to stop employers from hiring illegals.

300,000 Mexicans self-deported between 2008 and 2011, because there were no jobs. If it's impossible for them to be hired, they won't come.
Obama had to change the definition of deporting to get to the numbers he claimed.
Using the same criteria as Obama, prior presidents far exceeded Obama's numbers.

Having said that....Obama had 8 years of deportations to Trump's two years......so as of now, you may be right.

Ok. Show us the change in numbers after Trump corrected the definition you allege was changed.
 
So why do we still have so many people illegally streaming across the border?


Simple......because tons of businesses WILL hire them since most U.S. citizens will NOT repair a roof in August...and, here is where the jobs are.

So what you're saying is Obama wasted millions of our tax dollars hiring 20,000 more border agents?
 
Only dishonest Republicans would propagate the lie that Democrats want ‘open borders’ or ‘illegal immigration.’

In fact, Democrats support the $1.6 billion the Senate proposes for border security – actual border security – not the waste of money and resources for Trump’s ‘wall’ of bigotry, fear, and hate; a ‘wall’ which would do nothing to contribute to border security.
Yeah, walls work in other countries, just not ours.:rolleyes-41:

No they don’t. Walls have never worked. They didn’t work in China or anywhere else.

What works is that those who are undocumented can’t find work, go home. My mother taught me from an early age that if you feed strays they keep coming back and they’ll bring their friends and families.

Stop the hiring of illegals and they won’t be a problem.
 
Only dishonest Republicans would propagate the lie that Democrats want ‘open borders’ or ‘illegal immigration.’

In fact, Democrats support the $1.6 billion the Senate proposes for border security – actual border security – not the waste of money and resources for Trump’s ‘wall’ of bigotry, fear, and hate; a ‘wall’ which would do nothing to contribute to border security.
Yeah, walls work in other countries, just not ours.:rolleyes-41:

No they don’t. Walls have never worked. They didn’t work in China or anywhere else.

What works is that those who are undocumented can’t find work, go home. My mother taught me from an early age that if you feed strays they keep coming back and they’ll bring their friends and families.

Stop the hiring of illegals and they won’t be a problem.
Stop hiring illegals IS part of the problem, not having a wall complimented with electronics is the other
part of the equation.
 

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