Zionism

[Roudy]

And as the evidence shows the arab muslims are recent arrivals after the European Jews

I think what he is talking about are the Arabs who migrated illegally to Mandatory Palestine and therefore were never part of any population census.

What he and you are talking about is Zionist fantasy, as you well know. From UN Report A/364 of 3 September 1947.

"(b)IMMIGRATION AND NATURAL INCREASE

"15. These changes in the population have been brought about by two forces: natural increase and immigration. The great increase in the Jewish population is due in the main to immigration. From 1920 to 1946, the total number of recorded Jewish immigrants into Palestine was about 376,000, or an average of over 8,000 per year.

16. The Arab population has increased almost entirely as a result of an excess of births over deaths."

A 364 of 3 September 1947

also

On page 212 Vol. 1 Survey of Palestine

"58. The second misconception relates to the movement of certain inhabitants from the Lebanon and Syria into Palestine. The northern frontier between Palestine on the south and Syria and the Lebanon on the north intersects some properties and in other cases separates an owner or a tenant from the land in his possession. As a consequence of this state of fact a Bon Voisinage Agreement between Syria and Palestine was concluded in 1924 between the authorities of the two territories in virtue of which certain persons living on either side of the frontier might cross that frontier at will for the normal pursuit of their occupations. Such persons are required to hold border passes which they are required to produce on challenge. If the Lebanese and Syrian holders of these border passes travel beyond the sub-districts in Palestine that lie along the frontier they become illegal immigrants. These people have no intention of permanent settlement in Palestine since their homes lie to the north of the frontier. .

59. The conclusion is that Arab illegal immigration for the purposes of permanent settlement is insignificant.


http://www.bjpa.org/Publications/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=17184

That's just more bullshit. If the Arab invasion wasn't significant then it wouldn't be noted by the British officials, and Jerusalem that had a Jewish majority in the 1800's would suddenly become Muslim majority in about 50 years. How did it happen? Arab invasion.

 

[montelatici]

And as the evidence shows the arab muslims are recent arrivals after the European Jews

I think what he is talking about are the Arabs who migrated illegally to Mandatory Palestine and therefore were never part of any population census.

What he and you are talking about is Zionist fantasy, as you well know. From UN Report A/364 of 3 September 1947.

"(b)IMMIGRATION AND NATURAL INCREASE

"15. These changes in the population have been brought about by two forces: natural increase and immigration. The great increase in the Jewish population is due in the main to immigration. From 1920 to 1946, the total number of recorded Jewish immigrants into Palestine was about 376,000, or an average of over 8,000 per year.

16. The Arab population has increased almost entirely as a result of an excess of births over deaths."

A 364 of 3 September 1947

also

On page 212 Vol. 1 Survey of Palestine

"58. The second misconception relates to the movement of certain inhabitants from the Lebanon and Syria into Palestine. The northern frontier between Palestine on the south and Syria and the Lebanon on the north intersects some properties and in other cases separates an owner or a tenant from the land in his possession. As a consequence of this state of fact a Bon Voisinage Agreement between Syria and Palestine was concluded in 1924 between the authorities of the two territories in virtue of which certain persons living on either side of the frontier might cross that frontier at will for the normal pursuit of their occupations. Such persons are required to hold border passes which they are required to produce on challenge. If the Lebanese and Syrian holders of these border passes travel beyond the sub-districts in Palestine that lie along the frontier they become illegal immigrants. These people have no intention of permanent settlement in Palestine since their homes lie to the north of the frontier. .

59. The conclusion is that Arab illegal immigration for the purposes of permanent settlement is insignificant.


http://www.bjpa.org/Publications/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=17184

That's just more bullshit. If the Arab invasion wasn't significant then it wouldn't be noted by the British officials, and Jerusalem that had a Jewish majority in the 1800's would suddenly become Muslim majority in about 50 years. How did it happen? Arab invasion.

No one is discussing Jerusalem that was invaded by European Jews starting in the 1800s. We are discussing Palestine.

I post the facts and provide the links to official British and/or UN documents and you just make things up with no back up whatsoever. I am not sure whether you or Phoney is the biggest bullshitter, punk.

 

[montelatici]

I am just debunking the lies of Zionists about the "Jewish people". It is enough to look at black and white Jews to see that they do not have anything in common, except the religious mythology. They believe that they are descendants of Hebrews, and that is a dogma of Judaism.


Racism can only exist in multi-racial societies, dude!


There was no racism, say, in Scandinavia, speak the native Scandinavians did not hate each others because of their different races, because they belonged to the same race.

Jews pretend to be one single people, but they hate each others, because they look totally different and have a totally different culture.
Can you get my drift?

If they were a minority, then there would be a black President in Israel, but the ruling elite of Israel is 100% white.

And if Jews really were a single people, then there would be no black and whit Jews, and no reason at all for racism.

Can you really not understand these simple things?

If most Israeli Jews are secular, why do they not have an institution of civil marriage in Israel, and why do only white Rabbis the authority to decide, who is a Jew and who is not a Jew?

These black Jews are not recognized as Jews in Israel, and they do not have Israeli citizenship, though they are practising Jews.

Why do black Jews have to undergo a "conversion", if most Jewish Israelis are secular?

Does that make any sense?



On the other hand, white Atheists from Russia with "Jewish blood" are recognized as Jews in Israel.

Does that make any sense?

I think that white Zionists just usurped the power in the Jewish community, and they perverted it.

How can somebody be a Jew, if he is secular?

Are there secular Christians or secular Muslims?

Zionism seems to be a crazy ideology that tries to transform a religious group into a race.

That's because you are an idiot who doesn't understand that Jewish can be a race, religion, culture, and national identity.

Are you trying to claim that today's Jews aren't real Jews but the Arabs are? Ha ha ha. Take a hike huckster.

Jews are people that practice a religion. Just as Catholics are people that practice a religion. This racist fantasy that there is a Jewish race is as grotesque as the Nazi claim that there is an Aryan race. Ruddy, the propagandist punk calling someone an idiot. You take a hike you little cowardly punk.

you know, you jewhating imbecile, your argument might have some sanity if the Nazi's hadn't defined jews by blood.

now run along and piss off.

You run along you ignorant little twat.. You can go ahead and define Jews by blood as the Nazis did, it's your decision. Jews are adherents to a particular religion. The concept of a Jewish race is as ridiculous as the concept of an Aryan race.

Aw look how cute! The whiny Nazi boy is telling us who is and isn't a Jew. Ha ha ha.

Just telling you that Jew is not a race, punk.

 

[toastman]

And as the evidence shows the arab muslims are recent arrivals after the European Jews

I think what he is talking about are the Arabs who migrated illegally to Mandatory Palestine and therefore were never part of any population census.

What he and you are talking about is Zionist fantasy, as you well know. From UN Report A/364 of 3 September 1947.

"(b)IMMIGRATION AND NATURAL INCREASE

"15. These changes in the population have been brought about by two forces: natural increase and immigration. The great increase in the Jewish population is due in the main to immigration. From 1920 to 1946, the total number of recorded Jewish immigrants into Palestine was about 376,000, or an average of over 8,000 per year.

16. The Arab population has increased almost entirely as a result of an excess of births over deaths."

A 364 of 3 September 1947

also

On page 212 Vol. 1 Survey of Palestine

"58. The second misconception relates to the movement of certain inhabitants from the Lebanon and Syria into Palestine. The northern frontier between Palestine on the south and Syria and the Lebanon on the north intersects some properties and in other cases separates an owner or a tenant from the land in his possession. As a consequence of this state of fact a Bon Voisinage Agreement between Syria and Palestine was concluded in 1924 between the authorities of the two territories in virtue of which certain persons living on either side of the frontier might cross that frontier at will for the normal pursuit of their occupations. Such persons are required to hold border passes which they are required to produce on challenge. If the Lebanese and Syrian holders of these border passes travel beyond the sub-districts in Palestine that lie along the frontier they become illegal immigrants. These people have no intention of permanent settlement in Palestine since their homes lie to the north of the frontier. .

59. The conclusion is that Arab illegal immigration for the purposes of permanent settlement is insignificant.


http://www.bjpa.org/Publications/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=17184

That's just more bullshit. If the Arab invasion wasn't significant then it wouldn't be noted by the British officials, and Jerusalem that had a Jewish majority in the 1800's would suddenly become Muslim majority in about 50 years. How did it happen? Arab invasion.

No one is discussing Jerusalem that was invaded by European Jews starting in the 1800s. We are discussing Palestine.

I post the facts and provide the links to official British and/or UN documents and you just make things up with no back up whatsoever. I am not sure whether you or Phoney is the biggest bullshitter, punk.

Biggest bullshitter? That would definitely be you, and it's not even close. You don't even know what a simple word like 'invasion' means.

Biggest propagandist? Guess what, you are only number 2 in that category after the emergence of your Nazi buddy Penelope. But with the immense amount of propaganda you've been spewing lately, you can take over the number one spot easily !

 

[jillian]

Secular does not mean Atheist genius ! Who said anything about Atheism ?

Secular means "Not connected with religion".

How can somebody be a Christian or a Muslim, if he is not connected with Islam or Christianity?

Are you kidding?




And yes, self-proclaimed white Atheists are accepted by Israeli white Rabbis as Jews:

Based on Jewish law's emphasis on matrilineal descent, even religiously conservative Orthodox Jewish authorities would accept an atheist born to a Jewish mother as fully Jewish.[1]

Jewish atheism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

But, on the other hand, these white Israeli Rabbis do not accept black practising Jews as Jews, and the pretext is that they stick to the "wrong" version of Judaism.

Black Hebrews adhere in varying degrees to the religious beliefs and practices of mainstream Judaism. They are not recognized as Jews by the greater Jewish community unless they undergo acertified conversion. Many choose to identify as Hebrew Israelites or Black Hebrews rather than as Jews to indicate their claimed historic connections.[1][2][3][4]

...
When the first Black Hebrews arrived in Israel in 1969, they claimed citizenship under the Law of Return, which gives eligible Jews immediate citizenship.[48] But, the Israeli government ruled in 1973 that the group did not qualify for automatic citizenship because they could not prove Jewish descent and had not undergone Orthodox conversion.

Black Hebrew Israelites - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

It is obvious to me that black Jews are discriminated by white supremacist Jews in Israel, who do not need any religion when they accept white atheists Jews as Jews, because of their supposed "right" bloodline. But on the other hand they use the pretext of religion or "wrong" bloodline to prevent the black Jews from getting Israeli citizenship.

It is just pure racism, that is hidden behind the perverted by white Zionists version of Judaism!

BTW, Rabbi Ovadia Yossef, who was the Chief Rabbi of Israel, considered Black Ethiopian Jews to be part of the Jewish community, the same way non - Nlack Jews are.

but that reality doesn't fit his rants.

 

[Roudy]

And as the evidence shows the arab muslims are recent arrivals after the European Jews

I think what he is talking about are the Arabs who migrated illegally to Mandatory Palestine and therefore were never part of any population census.

What he and you are talking about is Zionist fantasy, as you well know. From UN Report A/364 of 3 September 1947.

"(b)IMMIGRATION AND NATURAL INCREASE

"15. These changes in the population have been brought about by two forces: natural increase and immigration. The great increase in the Jewish population is due in the main to immigration. From 1920 to 1946, the total number of recorded Jewish immigrants into Palestine was about 376,000, or an average of over 8,000 per year.

16. The Arab population has increased almost entirely as a result of an excess of births over deaths."

A 364 of 3 September 1947

also

On page 212 Vol. 1 Survey of Palestine

"58. The second misconception relates to the movement of certain inhabitants from the Lebanon and Syria into Palestine. The northern frontier between Palestine on the south and Syria and the Lebanon on the north intersects some properties and in other cases separates an owner or a tenant from the land in his possession. As a consequence of this state of fact a Bon Voisinage Agreement between Syria and Palestine was concluded in 1924 between the authorities of the two territories in virtue of which certain persons living on either side of the frontier might cross that frontier at will for the normal pursuit of their occupations. Such persons are required to hold border passes which they are required to produce on challenge. If the Lebanese and Syrian holders of these border passes travel beyond the sub-districts in Palestine that lie along the frontier they become illegal immigrants. These people have no intention of permanent settlement in Palestine since their homes lie to the north of the frontier. .

59. The conclusion is that Arab illegal immigration for the purposes of permanent settlement is insignificant.


http://www.bjpa.org/Publications/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=17184

That's just more bullshit. If the Arab invasion wasn't significant then it wouldn't be noted by the British officials, and Jerusalem that had a Jewish majority in the 1800's would suddenly become Muslim majority in about 50 years. How did it happen? Arab invasion.

No one is discussing Jerusalem that was invaded by European Jews starting in the 1800s. We are discussing Palestine.

I post the facts and provide the links to official British and/or UN documents and you just make things up with no back up whatsoever. I am not sure whether you or Phoney is the biggest bullshitter, punk.

More bullshit. Jews, not Arabs, not Muslims, maintained a presence for 2000 years, and kept coming back and resettling in their holy land despite the invasions and pogroms. Arabs are the invaders. Israel isn't "Arab land" you ahole.

True story.

 

[Roudy]

That's because you are an idiot who doesn't understand that Jewish can be a race, religion, culture, and national identity.

Are you trying to claim that today's Jews aren't real Jews but the Arabs are? Ha ha ha. Take a hike huckster.

Jews are people that practice a religion. Just as Catholics are people that practice a religion. This racist fantasy that there is a Jewish race is as grotesque as the Nazi claim that there is an Aryan race. Ruddy, the propagandist punk calling someone an idiot. You take a hike you little cowardly punk.

you know, you jewhating imbecile, your argument might have some sanity if the Nazi's hadn't defined jews by blood.

now run along and piss off.

You run along you ignorant little twat.. You can go ahead and define Jews by blood as the Nazis did, it's your decision. Jews are adherents to a particular religion. The concept of a Jewish race is as ridiculous as the concept of an Aryan race.

Aw look how cute! The whiny Nazi boy is telling us who is and isn't a Jew. Ha ha ha.

Just telling you that Jew is not a race, punk.

Jew can be a race but doesn't have to be. Get it? Now run along, you Nazi dickhead.

 

[montelatici]

I think what he is talking about are the Arabs who migrated illegally to Mandatory Palestine and therefore were never part of any population census.

What he and you are talking about is Zionist fantasy, as you well know. From UN Report A/364 of 3 September 1947.

"(b)IMMIGRATION AND NATURAL INCREASE

"15. These changes in the population have been brought about by two forces: natural increase and immigration. The great increase in the Jewish population is due in the main to immigration. From 1920 to 1946, the total number of recorded Jewish immigrants into Palestine was about 376,000, or an average of over 8,000 per year.

16. The Arab population has increased almost entirely as a result of an excess of births over deaths."

A 364 of 3 September 1947

also

On page 212 Vol. 1 Survey of Palestine

"58. The second misconception relates to the movement of certain inhabitants from the Lebanon and Syria into Palestine. The northern frontier between Palestine on the south and Syria and the Lebanon on the north intersects some properties and in other cases separates an owner or a tenant from the land in his possession. As a consequence of this state of fact a Bon Voisinage Agreement between Syria and Palestine was concluded in 1924 between the authorities of the two territories in virtue of which certain persons living on either side of the frontier might cross that frontier at will for the normal pursuit of their occupations. Such persons are required to hold border passes which they are required to produce on challenge. If the Lebanese and Syrian holders of these border passes travel beyond the sub-districts in Palestine that lie along the frontier they become illegal immigrants. These people have no intention of permanent settlement in Palestine since their homes lie to the north of the frontier. .

59. The conclusion is that Arab illegal immigration for the purposes of permanent settlement is insignificant.


http://www.bjpa.org/Publications/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=17184

That's just more bullshit. If the Arab invasion wasn't significant then it wouldn't be noted by the British officials, and Jerusalem that had a Jewish majority in the 1800's would suddenly become Muslim majority in about 50 years. How did it happen? Arab invasion.

No one is discussing Jerusalem that was invaded by European Jews starting in the 1800s. We are discussing Palestine.

I post the facts and provide the links to official British and/or UN documents and you just make things up with no back up whatsoever. I am not sure whether you or Phoney is the biggest bullshitter, punk.

Biggest bullshitter? That would definitely be you, and it's not even close. You don't even know what a simple word like 'invasion' means.

Biggest propagandist? Guess what, you are only number 2 in that category after the emergence of your Nazi buddy Penelope. But with the immense amount of propaganda you've been spewing lately, you can take over the number one spot easily !

You have a problem recognizing the difference between documented facts and propaganda. To you, presenting inconvenient truths is equal to propagating propaganda.

 

[montelatici]

Jews are people that practice a religion. Just as Catholics are people that practice a religion. This racist fantasy that there is a Jewish race is as grotesque as the Nazi claim that there is an Aryan race. Ruddy, the propagandist punk calling someone an idiot. You take a hike you little cowardly punk.

you know, you jewhating imbecile, your argument might have some sanity if the Nazi's hadn't defined jews by blood.

now run along and piss off.

You run along you ignorant little twat.. You can go ahead and define Jews by blood as the Nazis did, it's your decision. Jews are adherents to a particular religion. The concept of a Jewish race is as ridiculous as the concept of an Aryan race.

Aw look how cute! The whiny Nazi boy is telling us who is and isn't a Jew. Ha ha ha.

Just telling you that Jew is not a race, punk.

Jew can be a race but doesn't have to be. Get it? Now run along, you Nazi dickhead.

"Jew can be a race, but doesn't have to be." Precious.

 

[Roudy]

you know, you jewhating imbecile, your argument might have some sanity if the Nazi's hadn't defined jews by blood.

now run along and piss off.

You run along you ignorant little twat.. You can go ahead and define Jews by blood as the Nazis did, it's your decision. Jews are adherents to a particular religion. The concept of a Jewish race is as ridiculous as the concept of an Aryan race.

Aw look how cute! The whiny Nazi boy is telling us who is and isn't a Jew. Ha ha ha.

Just telling you that Jew is not a race, punk.

Jew can be a race but doesn't have to be. Get it? Now run along, you Nazi dickhead.

"Jew can be a race, but doesn't have to be." Precious.

Yes, Jews who are of Iraqi or Persian background have been of the same race for over 2000 years, which is very different from their Muslim counterparts. They are Jewish by race, religion, and culture.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Secular does not mean Atheist genius ! Who said anything about Atheism ?

Secular means "Not connected with religion".

How can somebody be a Christian or a Muslim, if he is not connected with Islam or Christianity?

Are you kidding?




And yes, self-proclaimed white Atheists are accepted by Israeli white Rabbis as Jews:

Based on Jewish law's emphasis on matrilineal descent, even religiously conservative Orthodox Jewish authorities would accept an atheist born to a Jewish mother as fully Jewish.[1]

Jewish atheism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

But, on the other hand, these white Israeli Rabbis do not accept black practising Jews as Jews, and the pretext is that they stick to the "wrong" version of Judaism.

Black Hebrews adhere in varying degrees to the religious beliefs and practices of mainstream Judaism. They are not recognized as Jews by the greater Jewish community unless they undergo acertified conversion. Many choose to identify as Hebrew Israelites or Black Hebrews rather than as Jews to indicate their claimed historic connections.[1][2][3][4]

...
When the first Black Hebrews arrived in Israel in 1969, they claimed citizenship under the Law of Return, which gives eligible Jews immediate citizenship.[48] But, the Israeli government ruled in 1973 that the group did not qualify for automatic citizenship because they could not prove Jewish descent and had not undergone Orthodox conversion.

Black Hebrew Israelites - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

It is obvious to me that black Jews are discriminated by white supremacist Jews in Israel, who do not need any religion when they accept white atheists Jews as Jews, because of their supposed "right" bloodline. But on the other hand they use the pretext of religion or "wrong" bloodline to prevent the black Jews from getting Israeli citizenship.

It is just pure racism, that is hidden behind the perverted by white Zionists version of Judaism!

BTW, Rabbi Ovadia Yossef, who was the Chief Rabbi of Israel, considered Black Ethiopian Jews to be part of the Jewish community, the same way non - Nlack Jews are.

but that reality doesn't fit his rants.

You are all confusing 2 different groups of people. Falasha/Ethiopian black Jews are universally accepted as Jews, especially in Israel (though lately they've been complaining about some minor discrimination). Black Hebrews are an American sect of black people who suddenly decided that they were Jews, and immigrated to Israel in the 1970's.

 

[Roudy]

Secular does not mean Atheist genius ! Who said anything about Atheism ?

Secular means "Not connected with religion".

How can somebody be a Christian or a Muslim, if he is not connected with Islam or Christianity?

Are you kidding?




And yes, self-proclaimed white Atheists are accepted by Israeli white Rabbis as Jews:

Based on Jewish law's emphasis on matrilineal descent, even religiously conservative Orthodox Jewish authorities would accept an atheist born to a Jewish mother as fully Jewish.[1]

Jewish atheism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

But, on the other hand, these white Israeli Rabbis do not accept black practising Jews as Jews, and the pretext is that they stick to the "wrong" version of Judaism.

Black Hebrews adhere in varying degrees to the religious beliefs and practices of mainstream Judaism. They are not recognized as Jews by the greater Jewish community unless they undergo acertified conversion. Many choose to identify as Hebrew Israelites or Black Hebrews rather than as Jews to indicate their claimed historic connections.[1][2][3][4]

...
When the first Black Hebrews arrived in Israel in 1969, they claimed citizenship under the Law of Return, which gives eligible Jews immediate citizenship.[48] But, the Israeli government ruled in 1973 that the group did not qualify for automatic citizenship because they could not prove Jewish descent and had not undergone Orthodox conversion.

Black Hebrew Israelites - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

It is obvious to me that black Jews are discriminated by white supremacist Jews in Israel, who do not need any religion when they accept white atheists Jews as Jews, because of their supposed "right" bloodline. But on the other hand they use the pretext of religion or "wrong" bloodline to prevent the black Jews from getting Israeli citizenship.

It is just pure racism, that is hidden behind the perverted by white Zionists version of Judaism!

BTW, Rabbi Ovadia Yossef, who was the Chief Rabbi of Israel, considered Black Ethiopian Jews to be part of the Jewish community, the same way non - Nlack Jews are.

but that reality doesn't fit his rants.

You are all confusing 2 different groups of people. Falasha/Ethiopian black Jews are universally accepted as Jews, especially in Israel (though lately they've been complaining about some minor discrimination). Black Hebrews are an American sect of black people who suddenly decided that they were Jews, and immigrated to Israel in the 1970's.

Are Jews a Nation or a Religion Jewish Virtual Library

Judaism:
Are Jews a Nation or a Religion?


Judaism can be thought of as being simultaneously a religion, a nationality and a culture.

Throughout the middle ages and into the 20th century, most of the European world agreed that Jews constituted a distinct nation. This concept of nation does not require that a nation have either a territory nor a government, but rather, it identifies, as a nation any distinct group of people with a common language and culture. Only in the 19th century did it become common to assume that each nation should have its own distinct government; this is the political philosophy of nationalism. In fact, Jews had a remarkable degree of self-government until the 19th century. So long as Jews lived in their ghettos, they were allowed to collect their own taxes, run their own courts, and otherwise behave as citizens of a landless and distinctly second-class Jewish nation.

Of course, Judaism is a religion, and it is this religion that forms the central element of the Jewish culture that binds Jews together as a nation. It is the religion that defines foods as being kosher and non-kosher, and this underlies Jewish cuisine. It is the religion that sets the calendar of Jewish feast and fast days, and it is the religion that has preserved the Hebrewlanguage.

Is Judaism an ethnicity? In short, not any more. Although Judaism arose out of a single ethnicity in the Middle East, there have always been conversions into and out of the religion. Thus, there are those who may have been ethnically part of the original group who are no longer part of Judaism, and those of other ethnic groups who have converted into Judaism.

If you are referring to a nation in the sense of race, Judaism is not a nation. People are free to convert into Judaism; once converted, they are considered the same as if they were born Jewish. This is not true for a race.

 

[jillian]

You run along you ignorant little twat.. You can go ahead and define Jews by blood as the Nazis did, it's your decision. Jews are adherents to a particular religion. The concept of a Jewish race is as ridiculous as the concept of an Aryan race.

Aw look how cute! The whiny Nazi boy is telling us who is and isn't a Jew. Ha ha ha.

Just telling you that Jew is not a race, punk.

Jew can be a race but doesn't have to be. Get it? Now run along, you Nazi dickhead.

"Jew can be a race, but doesn't have to be." Precious.

Yes, Jews who are of Iraqi or Persian background have been of the same race for over 2000 years, which is very different from their Muslim counterparts. They are Jewish by race, religion, and culture.

yeah, but he's so jew-hating that he'd argue us out of existence if he could.

pathetic, isn't he?

 

[Roudy]

Aw look how cute! The whiny Nazi boy is telling us who is and isn't a Jew. Ha ha ha.

Just telling you that Jew is not a race, punk.

Jew can be a race but doesn't have to be. Get it? Now run along, you Nazi dickhead.

"Jew can be a race, but doesn't have to be." Precious.

Yes, Jews who are of Iraqi or Persian background have been of the same race for over 2000 years, which is very different from their Muslim counterparts. They are Jewish by race, religion, and culture.

yeah, but he's so jew-hating that he'd argue us out of existence if he could.

pathetic, isn't he?

Yup he spends every minute of his living and breathing existence figuring out a way to hate and bash Jews. They taught him at an early age, that by hating Jews, he's going to heaven. Of course, IF there is a heaven, the scumbag's in for a big surprise.

 

[jillian]

Just telling you that Jew is not a race, punk.

Jew can be a race but doesn't have to be. Get it? Now run along, you Nazi dickhead.

"Jew can be a race, but doesn't have to be." Precious.

Yes, Jews who are of Iraqi or Persian background have been of the same race for over 2000 years, which is very different from their Muslim counterparts. They are Jewish by race, religion, and culture.

yeah, but he's so jew-hating that he'd argue us out of existence if he could.

pathetic, isn't he?

Yup he spends every minute of his living and breathing existence figuring out a way to hate and bash Jews. They taught him at an early age, that by hating Jews, he's going to heaven. Of course, IF there is a heaven, the scumbag's in for a big surprise.

well, i doubt they'll let him in.

 

[toastman]

I think what he is talking about are the Arabs who migrated illegally to Mandatory Palestine and therefore were never part of any population census.

What he and you are talking about is Zionist fantasy, as you well know. From UN Report A/364 of 3 September 1947.

"(b)IMMIGRATION AND NATURAL INCREASE

"15. These changes in the population have been brought about by two forces: natural increase and immigration. The great increase in the Jewish population is due in the main to immigration. From 1920 to 1946, the total number of recorded Jewish immigrants into Palestine was about 376,000, or an average of over 8,000 per year.

16. The Arab population has increased almost entirely as a result of an excess of births over deaths."

A 364 of 3 September 1947

also

On page 212 Vol. 1 Survey of Palestine

"58. The second misconception relates to the movement of certain inhabitants from the Lebanon and Syria into Palestine. The northern frontier between Palestine on the south and Syria and the Lebanon on the north intersects some properties and in other cases separates an owner or a tenant from the land in his possession. As a consequence of this state of fact a Bon Voisinage Agreement between Syria and Palestine was concluded in 1924 between the authorities of the two territories in virtue of which certain persons living on either side of the frontier might cross that frontier at will for the normal pursuit of their occupations. Such persons are required to hold border passes which they are required to produce on challenge. If the Lebanese and Syrian holders of these border passes travel beyond the sub-districts in Palestine that lie along the frontier they become illegal immigrants. These people have no intention of permanent settlement in Palestine since their homes lie to the north of the frontier. .

59. The conclusion is that Arab illegal immigration for the purposes of permanent settlement is insignificant.


http://www.bjpa.org/Publications/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=17184

That's just more bullshit. If the Arab invasion wasn't significant then it wouldn't be noted by the British officials, and Jerusalem that had a Jewish majority in the 1800's would suddenly become Muslim majority in about 50 years. How did it happen? Arab invasion.

No one is discussing Jerusalem that was invaded by European Jews starting in the 1800s. We are discussing Palestine.

I post the facts and provide the links to official British and/or UN documents and you just make things up with no back up whatsoever. I am not sure whether you or Phoney is the biggest bullshitter, punk.

Biggest bullshitter? That would definitely be you, and it's not even close. You don't even know what a simple word like 'invasion' means.

Biggest propagandist? Guess what, you are only number 2 in that category after the emergence of your Nazi buddy Penelope. But with the immense amount of propaganda you've been spewing lately, you can take over the number one spot easily !

You have a problem recognizing the difference between documented facts and propaganda. To you, presenting inconvenient truths is equal to propagating propaganda.

There you go again, accusing me of exactly what you are guilty of . Why do you always attack me when I post the truth about your lies and propaganda?? It's not my fault you are like that. I am simply saying what everyone who reads your posts can see.

If you stop spewing Palestinian propaganda every day, then we'll see.

 

[theliq]

Jew can be a race but doesn't have to be. Get it? Now run along, you Nazi dickhead.

"Jew can be a race, but doesn't have to be." Precious.

Yes, Jews who are of Iraqi or Persian background have been of the same race for over 2000 years, which is very different from their Muslim counterparts. They are Jewish by race, religion, and culture.

yeah, but he's so jew-hating that he'd argue us out of existence if he could.

pathetic, isn't he?

Yup he spends every minute of his living and breathing existence figuring out a way to hate and bash Jews. They taught him at an early age, that by hating Jews, he's going to heaven. Of course, IF there is a heaven, the scumbag's in for a big surprise.

well, i doubt they'll let him in.

Is this the best you can do.........Fcuk you are sooo boringgggggggg..............Now YOU will tell me I am ANTI-SEMITIC,.....WRONG,I JUST DON'T LIKE YOU...simple as that

 

[montelatici]

What he and you are talking about is Zionist fantasy, as you well know. From UN Report A/364 of 3 September 1947.

"(b)IMMIGRATION AND NATURAL INCREASE

"15. These changes in the population have been brought about by two forces: natural increase and immigration. The great increase in the Jewish population is due in the main to immigration. From 1920 to 1946, the total number of recorded Jewish immigrants into Palestine was about 376,000, or an average of over 8,000 per year.

16. The Arab population has increased almost entirely as a result of an excess of births over deaths."

A 364 of 3 September 1947

also

On page 212 Vol. 1 Survey of Palestine

"58. The second misconception relates to the movement of certain inhabitants from the Lebanon and Syria into Palestine. The northern frontier between Palestine on the south and Syria and the Lebanon on the north intersects some properties and in other cases separates an owner or a tenant from the land in his possession. As a consequence of this state of fact a Bon Voisinage Agreement between Syria and Palestine was concluded in 1924 between the authorities of the two territories in virtue of which certain persons living on either side of the frontier might cross that frontier at will for the normal pursuit of their occupations. Such persons are required to hold border passes which they are required to produce on challenge. If the Lebanese and Syrian holders of these border passes travel beyond the sub-districts in Palestine that lie along the frontier they become illegal immigrants. These people have no intention of permanent settlement in Palestine since their homes lie to the north of the frontier. .

59. The conclusion is that Arab illegal immigration for the purposes of permanent settlement is insignificant.


http://www.bjpa.org/Publications/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=17184

That's just more bullshit. If the Arab invasion wasn't significant then it wouldn't be noted by the British officials, and Jerusalem that had a Jewish majority in the 1800's would suddenly become Muslim majority in about 50 years. How did it happen? Arab invasion.

No one is discussing Jerusalem that was invaded by European Jews starting in the 1800s. We are discussing Palestine.

I post the facts and provide the links to official British and/or UN documents and you just make things up with no back up whatsoever. I am not sure whether you or Phoney is the biggest bullshitter, punk.

Biggest bullshitter? That would definitely be you, and it's not even close. You don't even know what a simple word like 'invasion' means.

Biggest propagandist? Guess what, you are only number 2 in that category after the emergence of your Nazi buddy Penelope. But with the immense amount of propaganda you've been spewing lately, you can take over the number one spot easily !

You have a problem recognizing the difference between documented facts and propaganda. To you, presenting inconvenient truths is equal to propagating propaganda.

There you go again, accusing me of exactly what you are guilty of . Why do you always attack me when I post the truth about your lies and propaganda?? It's not my fault you are like that. I am simply saying what everyone who reads your posts can see.

If you stop spewing Palestinian propaganda every day, then we'll see.

What lie Toast. What lie. I only post fact.

 

[montelatici]

You run along you ignorant little twat.. You can go ahead and define Jews by blood as the Nazis did, it's your decision. Jews are adherents to a particular religion. The concept of a Jewish race is as ridiculous as the concept of an Aryan race.

Aw look how cute! The whiny Nazi boy is telling us who is and isn't a Jew. Ha ha ha.

Just telling you that Jew is not a race, punk.

Jew can be a race but doesn't have to be. Get it? Now run along, you Nazi dickhead.

"Jew can be a race, but doesn't have to be." Precious.

Yes, Jews who are of Iraqi or Persian background have been of the same race for over 2000 years, which is very different from their Muslim counterparts. They are Jewish by race, religion, and culture.

Muslims are not a race, neither are Jews. You are simply supporting Nazi racist ideology. Arab Jews were culturally Arab and spoke Arabic and were racially the same as their Christian and Muslim neighbors. It was just a religious difference.

 

[toastman]

Aw look how cute! The whiny Nazi boy is telling us who is and isn't a Jew. Ha ha ha.

Just telling you that Jew is not a race, punk.

Jew can be a race but doesn't have to be. Get it? Now run along, you Nazi dickhead.

"Jew can be a race, but doesn't have to be." Precious.

Yes, Jews who are of Iraqi or Persian background have been of the same race for over 2000 years, which is very different from their Muslim counterparts. They are Jewish by race, religion, and culture.

Muslims are not a race, neither are Jews. You are simply supporting Nazi racist ideology. Arab Jews were culturally Arab and spoke Arabic and were racially the same as their Christian and Muslim neighbors. It was just a religious difference.

How the fuck did you come to the conclusion that Roudy is supporting 'racist Nazi Ideology' ???