Zionism

[Art__Allm]

Still trying to peddle that Khazar lie I see

I am just debunking the lies of Zionists about the "Jewish people". It is enough to look at black and white Jews to see that they do not have anything in common, except the religious mythology. They believe that they are descendants of Hebrews, and that is a dogma of Judaism.

As for racism in Israel, there is racism in every country.

Racism can only exist in multi-racial societies, dude!


There was no racism, say, in Scandinavia, speak the native Scandinavians did not hate each others because of their different races, because they belonged to the same race.

Jews pretend to be one single people, but they hate each others, because they look totally different and have a totally different culture.
Can you get my drift?

Those who don't like Blacks/Non Jews are a minority in Israel, always have been and always will be.

If they were a minority, then there would be a black President in Israel, but the ruling elite of Israel is 100% white.

And if Jews really were a single people, then there would be no black and white Jews, and no reason at all for any racism.

Do you really not understand these simple things?

Most Israelis are secular and have no problem with other religions/races living among them.

If most Israeli Jews are secular, why do they not have an institution of civil marriage in Israel, and why do only white Rabbis have the authority to decide, who is a Jew and who is not a Jew?

These black Jews are not recognized as Jews in Israel, and they do not have Israeli citizenship, though they are practising Jews.

Black Hebrews adhere in varying degrees to the religious beliefs and practices of mainstream Judaism. They are not recognized as Jews by the greater Jewish community unless they undergo acertified conversion

Black Hebrew Israelites - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Why do black Jews have to undergo a "conversion", if most Jewish Israelis are secular?
Why do they not get the citizenship of Israel without converstion?

Does that make any sense?



On the other hand, white Atheists from Russia with "Jewish blood" are recognized as Jews in Israel.

Does that make any sense?

I think that white Zionists just usurped the power in the Jewish community, and they perverted it.

How can somebody be a Jew, if he is secular?

Are there secular Christians or secular Muslims?

Zionism seems to be a crazy ideology that tries to transform a religious group into a race/ethnic group.

 

[Roudy]

Still trying to peddle that Khazar lie I see

I am just debunking the lies of Zionists about the "Jewish people". It is enough to look at black and white Jews to see that they do not have anything in common, except the religious mythology. They believe that they are descendants of Hebrews, and that is a dogma of Judaism.

As for racism in Israel, there is racism in every country.

Racism can only exist in multi-racial societies, dude!


There was no racism, say, in Scandinavia, speak the native Scandinavians did not hate each others because of their different races, because they belonged to the same race.

Jews pretend to be one single people, but they hate each others, because they look totally different and have a totally different culture.
Can you get my drift?

Those who don't like Blacks/Non Jews are a minority in Israel, always have been and always will be.

If they were a minority, then there would be a black President in Israel, but the ruling elite of Israel is 100% white.

And if Jews really were a single people, then there would be no black and whit Jews, and no reason at all for racism.

Can you really not understand these simple things?

Most Israelis are secular and have no problem with other religions/races living among them.

If most Israeli Jews are secular, why do they not have an institution of civil marriage in Israel, and why do only white Rabbis the authority to decide, who is a Jew and who is not a Jew?

These black Jews are not recognized as Jews in Israel, and they do not have Israeli citizenship, though they are practising Jews.

Black Hebrews adhere in varying degrees to the religious beliefs and practices of mainstream Judaism. They are not recognized as Jews by the greater Jewish community unless they undergo acertified conversion

Black Hebrew Israelites - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Why do black Jews have to undergo a "conversion", if most Jewish Israelis are secular?

Does that make any sense?



On the other hand, white Atheists from Russia with "Jewish blood" are recognized as Jews in Israel.

Does that make any sense?

I think that white Zionists just usurped the power in the Jewish community, and they perverted it.

How can somebody be a Jew, if he is secular?

Are there secular Christians or secular Muslims?

Zionism seems to be a crazy ideology that tries to transform a religious group into a race.

That's because you are an idiot who doesn't understand that Jewish can be a race, religion, culture, and national identity.

Are you trying to claim that today's Jews aren't real Jews but the Arabs are? Ha ha ha. Take a hike huckster.

 

[montelatici]

Still trying to peddle that Khazar lie I see

I am just debunking the lies of Zionists about the "Jewish people". It is enough to look at black and white Jews to see that they do not have anything in common, except the religious mythology. They believe that they are descendants of Hebrews, and that is a dogma of Judaism.

As for racism in Israel, there is racism in every country.

Racism can only exist in multi-racial societies, dude!


There was no racism, say, in Scandinavia, speak the native Scandinavians did not hate each others because of their different races, because they belonged to the same race.

Jews pretend to be one single people, but they hate each others, because they look totally different and have a totally different culture.
Can you get my drift?

Those who don't like Blacks/Non Jews are a minority in Israel, always have been and always will be.

If they were a minority, then there would be a black President in Israel, but the ruling elite of Israel is 100% white.

And if Jews really were a single people, then there would be no black and whit Jews, and no reason at all for racism.

Can you really not understand these simple things?

Most Israelis are secular and have no problem with other religions/races living among them.

If most Israeli Jews are secular, why do they not have an institution of civil marriage in Israel, and why do only white Rabbis the authority to decide, who is a Jew and who is not a Jew?

These black Jews are not recognized as Jews in Israel, and they do not have Israeli citizenship, though they are practising Jews.

Black Hebrews adhere in varying degrees to the religious beliefs and practices of mainstream Judaism. They are not recognized as Jews by the greater Jewish community unless they undergo acertified conversion

Black Hebrew Israelites - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Why do black Jews have to undergo a "conversion", if most Jewish Israelis are secular?

Does that make any sense?



On the other hand, white Atheists from Russia with "Jewish blood" are recognized as Jews in Israel.

Does that make any sense?

I think that white Zionists just usurped the power in the Jewish community, and they perverted it.

How can somebody be a Jew, if he is secular?

Are there secular Christians or secular Muslims?

Zionism seems to be a crazy ideology that tries to transform a religious group into a race.

That's because you are an idiot who doesn't understand that Jewish can be a race, religion, culture, and national identity.

Are you trying to claim that today's Jews aren't real Jews but the Arabs are? Ha ha ha. Take a hike huckster.

Jews are people that practice a religion. Just as Catholics are people that practice a religion. This racist fantasy that there is a Jewish race is as grotesque as the Nazi claim that there is an Aryan race. Ruddy, the propagandist punk calling someone an idiot. You take a hike you little cowardly punk.

 

[Roudy]

Still trying to peddle that Khazar lie I see

I am just debunking the lies of Zionists about the "Jewish people". It is enough to look at black and white Jews to see that they do not have anything in common, except the religious mythology. They believe that they are descendants of Hebrews, and that is a dogma of Judaism.

As for racism in Israel, there is racism in every country.

Racism can only exist in multi-racial societies, dude!


There was no racism, say, in Scandinavia, speak the native Scandinavians did not hate each others because of their different races, because they belonged to the same race.

Jews pretend to be one single people, but they hate each others, because they look totally different and have a totally different culture.
Can you get my drift?

Those who don't like Blacks/Non Jews are a minority in Israel, always have been and always will be.

If they were a minority, then there would be a black President in Israel, but the ruling elite of Israel is 100% white.

And if Jews really were a single people, then there would be no black and whit Jews, and no reason at all for racism.

Can you really not understand these simple things?

Most Israelis are secular and have no problem with other religions/races living among them.

If most Israeli Jews are secular, why do they not have an institution of civil marriage in Israel, and why do only white Rabbis the authority to decide, who is a Jew and who is not a Jew?

These black Jews are not recognized as Jews in Israel, and they do not have Israeli citizenship, though they are practising Jews.

Black Hebrews adhere in varying degrees to the religious beliefs and practices of mainstream Judaism. They are not recognized as Jews by the greater Jewish community unless they undergo acertified conversion

Black Hebrew Israelites - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Why do black Jews have to undergo a "conversion", if most Jewish Israelis are secular?

Does that make any sense?



On the other hand, white Atheists from Russia with "Jewish blood" are recognized as Jews in Israel.

Does that make any sense?

I think that white Zionists just usurped the power in the Jewish community, and they perverted it.

How can somebody be a Jew, if he is secular?

Are there secular Christians or secular Muslims?

Zionism seems to be a crazy ideology that tries to transform a religious group into a race.

That's because you are an idiot who doesn't understand that Jewish can be a race, religion, culture, and national identity.

Are you trying to claim that today's Jews aren't real Jews but the Arabs are? Ha ha ha. Take a hike huckster.

Jews are people that practice a religion. Just as Catholics are people that practice a religion. This racist fantasy that there is a Jewish race is as grotesque as the Nazi claim that there is an Aryan race. Ruddy, the propagandist punk calling someone an idiot. You take a hike you little cowardly punk.

Zzzzzzzzz.

 

[Phoenall]

Still trying to peddle that Khazar lie I see

I am just debunking the lies of Zionists about the "Jewish people". It is enough to look at black and white Jews to see that they do not have anything in common, except the religious mythology. They believe that they are descendants of Hebrews, and that is a dogma of Judaism.

As for racism in Israel, there is racism in every country.

Racism can only exist in multi-racial societies, dude!


There was no racism, say, in Scandinavia, speak the native Scandinavians did not hate each others because of their different races, because they belonged to the same race.

Jews pretend to be one single people, but they hate each others, because they look totally different and have a totally different culture.
Can you get my drift?

Those who don't like Blacks/Non Jews are a minority in Israel, always have been and always will be.

If they were a minority, then there would be a black President in Israel, but the ruling elite of Israel is 100% white.

And if Jews really were a single people, then there would be no black and whit Jews, and no reason at all for racism.

Can you really not understand these simple things?

Most Israelis are secular and have no problem with other religions/races living among them.

If most Israeli Jews are secular, why do they not have an institution of civil marriage in Israel, and why do only white Rabbis the authority to decide, who is a Jew and who is not a Jew?

These black Jews are not recognized as Jews in Israel, and they do not have Israeli citizenship, though they are practising Jews.

Black Hebrews adhere in varying degrees to the religious beliefs and practices of mainstream Judaism. They are not recognized as Jews by the greater Jewish community unless they undergo acertified conversion

Black Hebrew Israelites - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Why do black Jews have to undergo a "conversion", if most Jewish Israelis are secular?

Does that make any sense?



On the other hand, white Atheists from Russia with "Jewish blood" are recognized as Jews in Israel.

Does that make any sense?

I think that white Zionists just usurped the power in the Jewish community, and they perverted it.

How can somebody be a Jew, if he is secular?

Are there secular Christians or secular Muslims?

Zionism seems to be a crazy ideology that tries to transform a religious group into a race.

That's because you are an idiot who doesn't understand that Jewish can be a race, religion, culture, and national identity.

Are you trying to claim that today's Jews aren't real Jews but the Arabs are? Ha ha ha. Take a hike huckster.

Jews are people that practice a religion. Just as Catholics are people that practice a religion. This racist fantasy that there is a Jewish race is as grotesque as the Nazi claim that there is an Aryan race. Ruddy, the propagandist punk calling someone an idiot. You take a hike you little cowardly punk.

YOU ARE WRONG and the world disagrees with you. Your hero's the Nazi's showed that Jews were a race and could smell a Jew from across a room.

 

[montelatici]

Still trying to peddle that Khazar lie I see

I am just debunking the lies of Zionists about the "Jewish people". It is enough to look at black and white Jews to see that they do not have anything in common, except the religious mythology. They believe that they are descendants of Hebrews, and that is a dogma of Judaism.

As for racism in Israel, there is racism in every country.

Racism can only exist in multi-racial societies, dude!


There was no racism, say, in Scandinavia, speak the native Scandinavians did not hate each others because of their different races, because they belonged to the same race.

Jews pretend to be one single people, but they hate each others, because they look totally different and have a totally different culture.
Can you get my drift?

Those who don't like Blacks/Non Jews are a minority in Israel, always have been and always will be.

If they were a minority, then there would be a black President in Israel, but the ruling elite of Israel is 100% white.

And if Jews really were a single people, then there would be no black and whit Jews, and no reason at all for racism.

Can you really not understand these simple things?

Most Israelis are secular and have no problem with other religions/races living among them.

If most Israeli Jews are secular, why do they not have an institution of civil marriage in Israel, and why do only white Rabbis the authority to decide, who is a Jew and who is not a Jew?

These black Jews are not recognized as Jews in Israel, and they do not have Israeli citizenship, though they are practising Jews.

Black Hebrews adhere in varying degrees to the religious beliefs and practices of mainstream Judaism. They are not recognized as Jews by the greater Jewish community unless they undergo acertified conversion

Black Hebrew Israelites - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Why do black Jews have to undergo a "conversion", if most Jewish Israelis are secular?

Does that make any sense?



On the other hand, white Atheists from Russia with "Jewish blood" are recognized as Jews in Israel.

Does that make any sense?

I think that white Zionists just usurped the power in the Jewish community, and they perverted it.

How can somebody be a Jew, if he is secular?

Are there secular Christians or secular Muslims?

Zionism seems to be a crazy ideology that tries to transform a religious group into a race.

That's because you are an idiot who doesn't understand that Jewish can be a race, religion, culture, and national identity.

Are you trying to claim that today's Jews aren't real Jews but the Arabs are? Ha ha ha. Take a hike huckster.

Jews are people that practice a religion. Just as Catholics are people that practice a religion. This racist fantasy that there is a Jewish race is as grotesque as the Nazi claim that there is an Aryan race. Ruddy, the propagandist punk calling someone an idiot. You take a hike you little cowardly punk.

YOU ARE WRONG and the world disagrees with you. Your hero's the Nazi's showed that Jews were a race and could smell a Jew from across a room.

So, you agree with the Nazis. Figures. I don't agree with the Nazis.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Still trying to peddle that Khazar lie I see

I am just debunking the lies of Zionists about the "Jewish people". It is enough to look at black and white Jews to see that they do not have anything in common, except the religious mythology. They believe that they are descendants of Hebrews, and that is a dogma of Judaism.

As for racism in Israel, there is racism in every country.

Racism can only exist in multi-racial societies, dude!


There was no racism, say, in Scandinavia, speak the native Scandinavians did not hate each others because of their different races, because they belonged to the same race.

Jews pretend to be one single people, but they hate each others, because they look totally different and have a totally different culture.
Can you get my drift?

Those who don't like Blacks/Non Jews are a minority in Israel, always have been and always will be.

If they were a minority, then there would be a black President in Israel, but the ruling elite of Israel is 100% white.

And if Jews really were a single people, then there would be no black and whit Jews, and no reason at all for racism.

Can you really not understand these simple things?

Most Israelis are secular and have no problem with other religions/races living among them.

If most Israeli Jews are secular, why do they not have an institution of civil marriage in Israel, and why do only white Rabbis the authority to decide, who is a Jew and who is not a Jew?

These black Jews are not recognized as Jews in Israel, and they do not have Israeli citizenship, though they are practising Jews.

Black Hebrews adhere in varying degrees to the religious beliefs and practices of mainstream Judaism. They are not recognized as Jews by the greater Jewish community unless they undergo acertified conversion

Black Hebrew Israelites - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Why do black Jews have to undergo a "conversion", if most Jewish Israelis are secular?

Does that make any sense?



On the other hand, white Atheists from Russia with "Jewish blood" are recognized as Jews in Israel.

Does that make any sense?

I think that white Zionists just usurped the power in the Jewish community, and they perverted it.

How can somebody be a Jew, if he is secular?

Are there secular Christians or secular Muslims?

Zionism seems to be a crazy ideology that tries to transform a religious group into a race.

There is some antagonism among Jews, just as in other religious groups. Catholics and Protestants fought a 30-year war, and Shiite and Sunni Muslims are slaughtering each other today. I don't know what you are trying to prove.
Black Hebrews aren't the same as Ethiopian black Jews. They (Black Hebrews) are a cult. Ethiopian black Jews are the descendants of King Solomon's affair with the black queen of Sheba. Their son was Menelik, King of Sheba. Some say that the missing Ark of the Covenant is hidden in Ethiopia.

 

[Art__Allm]

Question: "If they were one single people, why would they have separated communities in Europe?"

Extremely stupid question. The three main religions have branches out other religions. Christianity has Catholicism, Protestantism, Calvinism etc..

So you agree that Judaism is just a religion, like Christianity?

They have different churches, but they still consider themselves to be Christian. It's just that their beliefs differ a bit.

Agree, but they do not pretend to be a single people, and do not call themselves "THE Christian people". Can you get my drift?

Islam has Sunni's and Shiite's. Again, different mosque's, different communities.

It seems that you agree with me, that Jews are not a people, but just a religious group, like Muslims or Christians.



But Sunni and Shiites do not pretend to be a "single Muslim" people, they are different ethnic groups who share a common religion. On the other hand Zionists claim that different ethnic groups, that converted to Judaism in different times and different places, are a single people that can trace their bloodline back to the Hebrews, and that is really idiotic.

Judaism has Ashkenazis and Sephardics. Then there are those who are Orthodox etc....

There are black Ethiopian Jews, Chinese Jews who look like Mongolians, etc. etc. There are a lot of different ethnic groups that converted to Judaism.

Once again, they have different synagogues. That doesn't mean that they are not one people.

Wow!

They have different spoken languages, they look totally different, they have different histories, different cultures, and even different varieties of Judaism. And they hate each others because of these differences, and white Jews try to reduce the number of black Jews in Israel.

But you still call them "one people"?

Does that make any sense?



In this case the Jehovah's Witnesses are also a people, but they are not crazy enough to claim that there is some land that belongs to them, and they do not expel the native population of this land.

 

[Lipush]

Everyone uses the word "Zionism" like it's a dirty word. I really just cannot understand it. If you look at a map of the world or a globe, Israel is just a dot. People speak of it as if it had as much territory as Russia. There are twenty-five nations that have a cross on their flags, fifteen that have a crescent. Why does it bother everyone so much that a tiny strip of land become the only nation with a star of David on its flag? Leaving aside history or religion for the moment, Jews have suffered as the "guests" of other countries for 2,000 years. I'm not even talking about the Holocaust for the moment. There were mass expulsions, pogroms, blood libels, inquisitions, ghettos, forced baptisms, etc. These weren't dim memories from the past either. My own parents were victims. My dad lost his whole family in the Holocaust before he came to America. My mom's family were deported to Siberia by the Russians from Poland. After the war, they had nowhere to go. Today it's very easy to immigrate to America, but at that time they were denied visas. So they made their way to Israel. (Later my dad, as a tourist in Israel, met my mom and took her to America.) Israel was the only place the Ethiopian Jews could go to escape famine, where Russian Jews could go to escape Communism, etc. Many people would now be asking why the Palestinians had to suffer to make room for the Jews. But the Arabs have 22 countries, rich in oil and other resources, where they can eat Arabic food, wear their clothes, practice their culture and religions, listen to their music, etc. It's not Israel's fault that they can't get their shit together. Look how well the Eastern European countries adapted to democracy and normalcy after Communism fell in 1989 and compare that to what happened after the Arab Spring. People on the Board keep on debating over and over and over again about Israel's creation in 1947-1948. Get over it already! It's been 2 or 3 generations since then and the people there think of themselves as Israelis, not Europeans or Yemenis or anything else. Just accept the fact that Israel exists and work for a peaceful resolution to the conflict. Get a life and don't be more "Palestinian" than the Palestinians themselves! End of rant.

Many people would now be asking why the Palestinians had to suffer to make room for the Jews. But the Arabs have 22 countries,...​

So? The Palestinians only had Palestine.

And the Jews have only Israel.

Wouldn't it be nice if we could share it peacefully.

Oh wait, The Palestinians DIDN'T like that peaceful solution. They started a war and LOST.

Look at how many times they got screwed due to one silly decision.

 

[toastman]

Still trying to peddle that Khazar lie I see


I am just debunking the lies of Zionists about the "Jewish people". It is enough to look at black and white Jews to see that they do not have anything in common, except the religious mythology. They believe that they are descendants of Hebrews, and that is a dogma of Judaism.



As for racism in Israel, there is racism in every country.


Racism can only exist in multi-racial societies, dude!


There was no racism, say, in Scandinavia, speak the native Scandinavians did not hate each others because of their different races, because they belonged to the same race.

Jews pretend to be one single people, but they hate each others, because they look totally different and have a totally different culture.
Can you get my drift?


Those who don't like Blacks/Non Jews are a minority in Israel, always have been and always will be.
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If they were a minority, then there would be a black President in Israel, but the ruling elite of Israel is 100% white.

So your logic is that because there is no Black President, the Majority of Israelis are racist. Wow man, just...wow.

And if Jews really were a single people, then there would be no black and white Jews, and no reason at all for any racism.

Do you really not understand these simple things?

Do YOU not understand that the 'logic' of these racists has nothing to do with anything. What you posted has nothing to do with the fact that Jews are one people. Another very weak argument.


Most Israelis are secular and have no problemn with other religions/races living among them.


If most Israeli Jews are secular, why do they not have an institution of civil marriage in Israel, and why do only white Rabbis have the authority to decide, who is a Jew and who is not a Jew?

How does this change the fact that most Israelis are secular? I've been to Israel 12 times and my entire family lives there (except my parents who used to live there and brother, who live here in Canada).

These black Jews are not recognized as Jews in Israel, and they do not have Israeli citizenship, though they are practising Jews.

Where the hell did you read this ? Of course they are recognized as Jews in Israel and have Israeli citizenship. Just because Israel doesn't accept all Black refugees, doesn't change the fact that there are PLENTY of Black Ethiopian Israeli citizens.

Black Hebrews adhere in varying degrees to the religious beliefs and practices of mainstream Judaism. They are not recognized as Jews by the greater Jewish community unless they undergo acertified conversion

It's possible that there are ultra Orthodox Jews who believe this, but again, they are a minority. Most Israelis are secular. BTW, you could be a secular Jew in Israel and still practice certain parts of the religions, like Shabbat dinner, Fasting on Yom Kippur. I'm secular but I still have Shabbat dinner every Friday, mainly for traditional reasons.

Black Hebrew Israelites - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Why do black Jews have to undergo a "conversion", if most Jewish Israelis are secular?
Why do they not get the citizenship of Israel without converstion?

Does that make any sense?

Again, WTF are you talking about??



On the other hand, white Atheists from Russia with "Jewish blood" are recognized as Jews in Israel.

Does that make any sense?

I think that white Zionists just usurped the power in the Jewish community, and they perverted it.

How can somebody be a Jew, if he is secular?

Are there secular Christians or secular Muslims? What a stupid question. Of course they are.

Zionism seems to be a crazy ideology that tries to transform a religious group into a race/ethnic group

The only crazy thing here is your demented ideology and lies about Israel.

 

[toastman]

Still trying to peddle that Khazar lie I see

I am just debunking the lies of Zionists about the "Jewish people". It is enough to look at black and white Jews to see that they do not have anything in common, except the religious mythology. They believe that they are descendants of Hebrews, and that is a dogma of Judaism.

As for racism in Israel, there is racism in every country.

Racism can only exist in multi-racial societies, dude!


There was no racism, say, in Scandinavia, speak the native Scandinavians did not hate each others because of their different races, because they belonged to the same race.

Jews pretend to be one single people, but they hate each others, because they look totally different and have a totally different culture.
Can you get my drift?

Those who don't like Blacks/Non Jews are a minority in Israel, always have been and always will be.

If they were a minority, then there would be a black President in Israel, but the ruling elite of Israel is 100% white.

So your logic is that because there is no Black President, the Majority of Israelis are racist. Wow man, just...wow.

And if Jews really were a single people, then there would be no black and white Jews, and no reason at all for any racism.

Do you really not understand these simple things?

Do YOU not understand that the 'logic' of these racists has nothing to do with anything. What you posted has nothing to do with the fact that Jews are one people. Another very weak argument.

Most Israelis are secular and have no problemn with other religions/races living among them.


If most Israeli Jews are secular, why do they not have an institution of civil marriage in Israel, and why do only white Rabbis have the authority to decide, who is a Jew and who is not a Jew?

How does this change the fact that most Israelis are secular? I've been to Israel 12 times and my entire family lives there (except my parents who used to live there and brother, who live here in Canada).

These black Jews are not recognized as Jews in Israel, and they do not have Israeli citizenship, though they are practising Jews.

Where the hell did you read this ? Of course they are recognized as Jews in Israel and have Israeli citizenship. Just because Israel doesn't accept all Black refugees, doesn't change the fact that there are PLENTY of Black Ethiopian Israeli citizens.

Black Hebrews adhere in varying degrees to the religious beliefs and practices of mainstream Judaism. They are not recognized as Jews by the greater Jewish community unless they undergo acertified conversion

It's possible that there are ultra Orthodox Jews who believe this, but again, they are a minority. Most Israelis are secular. BTW, you could be a secular Jew in Israel and still practice certain parts of the religions, like Shabbat dinner, Fasting on Yom Kippur. I'm secular but I still have Shabbat dinner every Friday, mainly for traditional reasons.

Black Hebrew Israelites - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Why do black Jews have to undergo a "conversion", if most Jewish Israelis are secular?
Why do they not get the citizenship of Israel without converstion?

Does that make any sense?

Again, WTF are you talking about??



On the other hand, white Atheists from Russia with "Jewish blood" are recognized as Jews in Israel.

Does that make any sense?

I think that white Zionists just usurped the power in the Jewish community, and they perverted it.

How can somebody be a Jew, if he is secular?

Are there secular Christians or secular Muslims? What a stupid question. Of course they are.

Zionism seems to be a crazy ideology that tries to transform a religious group into a race/ethnic group

The only crazy thing here is your demented ideology and lies about Israel.

 

[toastman]

Watch the whole video, but pay close attention to what the Ethiopian man at 3:50 says.

He has lived in Israel his whole life and he says that 99.99% of Israelis feel that he is just as much a Jew as white Jews and that signs of racism do exist, but are rare.

 

[montelatici]

Happy Ethiopian Jews:

 

[Art__Allm]

Jews are people that practice a religion. Just as Catholics are people that practice a religion.

There are many different people that practice Catholicism. No Catholics claim that they all represent "ONE people", the Catholic people.

Zionists claim that different ethnic groups that practice Judaism (and even the Atheists who stem from people who once practised Judaism) are "THE Jewish people".
That is a big difference.

This racist fantasy that there is a Jewish race is as grotesque as the Nazi claim that there is an Aryan race.

The National Socialists did not claim that all Jews belonged to the same race, in this regard the Zionists are even more extreme than it was the case National-Socialists, who believed in the existence of the "Jewish" and "Aryan" races.

The avowal of Mosaic or Jewish faith is also no foolproof evidence, because as a result of the former Jewish missionary movement with its conversion of masses of heathens and Christians, also because of changes of faith in modern times via mixed marriages and conversions, there are more than a few people of Jewish faith who are not racially Jewish.

...

Finally, the Lithuanian Jew Brutzkus goes so far as to classify the Berlin Jews on the basis of their blood composition as being purer Europeans than the Germans in Berlin.

The Korherr Report www.HolocaustResearchProject.org

 

[Art__Allm]

Where is your proof that Israel successfully reduced the Black population in Israel ?

The statistics. The population of white Orthodox Jews grows exponentially, the population of black Ethiopian Jews does not grow at all, because their women were made sterile by white Jewish doctors.

Even though Ethiopians hardly make 3% of the entire Israeli population, research done by local Feminist group named Isha L’isha (5) proves 60% of state sponsored birth controls were given to Ethiopian women.

The treatment is said to have resulted in an almost 50% decline of the population of Ethiopian Jews in Israel within the last decade.

The population decline of Black Jews in Israel

 

[jillian]

Everyone uses the word "Zionism" like it's a dirty word. I really just cannot understand it. If you look at a map of the world or a globe, Israel is just a dot. People speak of it as if it had as much territory as Russia. There are twenty-five nations that have a cross on their flags, fifteen that have a crescent. Why does it bother everyone so much that a tiny strip of land become the only nation with a star of David on its flag? Leaving aside history or religion for the moment, Jews have suffered as the "guests" of other countries for 2,000 years. I'm not even talking about the Holocaust for the moment. There were mass expulsions, pogroms, blood libels, inquisitions, ghettos, forced baptisms, etc. These weren't dim memories from the past either. My own parents were victims. My dad lost his whole family in the Holocaust before he came to America. My mom's family were deported to Siberia by the Russians from Poland. After the war, they had nowhere to go. Today it's very easy to immigrate to America, but at that time they were denied visas. So they made their way to Israel. (Later my dad, as a tourist in Israel, met my mom and took her to America.) Israel was the only place the Ethiopian Jews could go to escape famine, where Russian Jews could go to escape Communism, etc. Many people would now be asking why the Palestinians had to suffer to make room for the Jews. But the Arabs have 22 countries, rich in oil and other resources, where they can eat Arabic food, wear their clothes, practice their culture and religions, listen to their music, etc. It's not Israel's fault that they can't get their shit together. Look how well the Eastern European countries adapted to democracy and normalcy after Communism fell in 1989 and compare that to what happened after the Arab Spring. People on the Board keep on debating over and over and over again about Israel's creation in 1947-1948. Get over it already! It's been 2 or 3 generations since then and the people there think of themselves as Israelis, not Europeans or Yemenis or anything else. Just accept the fact that Israel exists and work for a peaceful resolution to the conflict. Get a life and don't be more "Palestinian" than the Palestinians themselves! End of rant.

" There were mass expulsions, pogroms, blood libels, inquisitions, ghettos, forced baptisms, etc. "

Why do you think this was the case so often?

because people are bigots and feel threatened by anyone who isn't in the majority.

 

[jillian]

Still trying to peddle that Khazar lie I see

I am just debunking the lies of Zionists about the "Jewish people". It is enough to look at black and white Jews to see that they do not have anything in common, except the religious mythology. They believe that they are descendants of Hebrews, and that is a dogma of Judaism.

As for racism in Israel, there is racism in every country.

Racism can only exist in multi-racial societies, dude!


There was no racism, say, in Scandinavia, speak the native Scandinavians did not hate each others because of their different races, because they belonged to the same race.

Jews pretend to be one single people, but they hate each others, because they look totally different and have a totally different culture.
Can you get my drift?

Those who don't like Blacks/Non Jews are a minority in Israel, always have been and always will be.

If they were a minority, then there would be a black President in Israel, but the ruling elite of Israel is 100% white.

And if Jews really were a single people, then there would be no black and whit Jews, and no reason at all for racism.

Can you really not understand these simple things?

Most Israelis are secular and have no problem with other religions/races living among them.

If most Israeli Jews are secular, why do they not have an institution of civil marriage in Israel, and why do only white Rabbis the authority to decide, who is a Jew and who is not a Jew?

These black Jews are not recognized as Jews in Israel, and they do not have Israeli citizenship, though they are practising Jews.

Black Hebrews adhere in varying degrees to the religious beliefs and practices of mainstream Judaism. They are not recognized as Jews by the greater Jewish community unless they undergo acertified conversion

Black Hebrew Israelites - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Why do black Jews have to undergo a "conversion", if most Jewish Israelis are secular?

Does that make any sense?



On the other hand, white Atheists from Russia with "Jewish blood" are recognized as Jews in Israel.

Does that make any sense?

I think that white Zionists just usurped the power in the Jewish community, and they perverted it.

How can somebody be a Jew, if he is secular?

Are there secular Christians or secular Muslims?

Zionism seems to be a crazy ideology that tries to transform a religious group into a race.

That's because you are an idiot who doesn't understand that Jewish can be a race, religion, culture, and national identity.

Are you trying to claim that today's Jews aren't real Jews but the Arabs are? Ha ha ha. Take a hike huckster.

Jews are people that practice a religion. Just as Catholics are people that practice a religion. This racist fantasy that there is a Jewish race is as grotesque as the Nazi claim that there is an Aryan race. Ruddy, the propagandist punk calling someone an idiot. You take a hike you little cowardly punk.

you know, you jewhating imbecile, your argument might have some sanity if the Nazi's hadn't defined jews by blood.

now run along and piss off.

 

[jillian]

Where is your proof that Israel successfully reduced the Black population in Israel ?

The statistics. The population of white Orthodox Jews grows exponentially, the population of black Ethiopian Jews does not grow at all, because their women were made sterile by white Jewish doctors.

Even though Ethiopians hardly make 3% of the entire Israeli population, research done by local Feminist group named Isha L’isha (5) proves 60% of state sponsored birth controls were given to Ethiopian women.

The treatment is said to have resulted in an almost 50% decline of the population of Ethiopian Jews in Israel within the last decade.

The population decline of Black Jews in Israel

wow... it's so interesting watching anti-semites play.

 

[Art__Allm]

Question:
Are there secular Christians or secular Muslims?
Answer:
What a stupid question. Of course they are.

Really?
Give me an example of one self-proclaimed Atheist that is accepted into the Christian or Muslim communities.

I do not mean fake communities, I mean real religious communities.

 

[Art__Allm]

wow... it's so interesting watching anti-semites play.

What Semites are you talking about?
Are you a wannabe Semite?
What to me, I am pro-Semitic, I support the Palestinian Semites in their struggle against the white European occupants, who call themselves Zionists.