Zionism

[Phoenall]

ART. 7.
The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law. There shall be included in this law provisions framed so as to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine.

Yes International law of 1923 in the Mandate of Palestine. The arab muslims had already received 78% of the land of Palestine to be ruled over by a Saudi prince.

 

[Phoenall]

Everyone uses the word "Zionism" like it's a dirty word. I really just cannot understand it. If you look at a map of the world or a globe, Israel is just a dot. People speak of it as if it had as much territory as Russia. There are twenty-five nations that have a cross on their flags, fifteen that have a crescent. Why does it bother everyone so much that a tiny strip of land become the only nation with a star of David on its flag? Leaving aside history or religion for the moment, Jews have suffered as the "guests" of other countries for 2,000 years. I'm not even talking about the Holocaust for the moment. There were mass expulsions, pogroms, blood libels, inquisitions, ghettos, forced baptisms, etc. These weren't dim memories from the past either. My own parents were victims. My dad lost his whole family in the Holocaust before he came to America. My mom's family were deported to Siberia by the Russians from Poland. After the war, they had nowhere to go. Today it's very easy to immigrate to America, but at that time they were denied visas. So they made their way to Israel. (Later my dad, as a tourist in Israel, met my mom and took her to America.) Israel was the only place the Ethiopian Jews could go to escape famine, where Russian Jews could go to escape Communism, etc. Many people would now be asking why the Palestinians had to suffer to make room for the Jews. But the Arabs have 22 countries, rich in oil and other resources, where they can eat Arabic food, wear their clothes, practice their culture and religions, listen to their music, etc. It's not Israel's fault that they can't get their shit together. Look how well the Eastern European countries adapted to democracy and normalcy after Communism fell in 1989 and compare that to what happened after the Arab Spring. People on the Board keep on debating over and over and over again about Israel's creation in 1947-1948. Get over it already! It's been 2 or 3 generations since then and the people there think of themselves as Israelis, not Europeans or Yemenis or anything else. Just accept the fact that Israel exists and work for a peaceful resolution to the conflict. Get a life and don't be more "Palestinian" than the Palestinians themselves! End of rant.

Many people would now be asking why the Palestinians had to suffer to make room for the Jews. But the Arabs have 22 countries,...​

So? The Palestinians only had Palestine.

Which was partitioned in 1923 into two unequal parts, arab Palestine for the arabs and Jewish Palestine for the rest. So the majority of Jews also only had Jewish Palestine.

Why did Europeans have a right to take any land away from Christians and Muslims that had lived in Palestine for over dozens of generations?

There was no partition in 1923. Trans-Jordania was a completely separate territory, there was no need for partition, it was populated (and ruled) by very different people.

Because that was the law at that time, just as it was the law when you went to America and took the first nations lands away from them.

And as the evidence shows the arab muslims are recent arrivals after the European Jews invited by the Ottomans to make the land fertile again.

Read the Mandate for Palestine article 25.

In the territories lying between the Jordan and the eastern boundary of Palestine as ultimately determined, the Mandatory shall be entitled, with the consent of the Council of the League of Nations, to postpone or withhold application of such provisions of this mandate as he may consider inapplicable to the existing local conditions, and to make such provision for the administration of the territories as he may consider suitable to those conditions, provided that no action shall be taken which is inconsistent with the provisions of Articles 15, 16 and 18.

So you see up until 1923 trans Jordan was part of the mandate of Palestine, and was granted to the minor prince of a Saudi royal family. He had no ties to trans Jordan, and was as foreign to the arab muslims living there as the Jews were. He was given the land as his kingdom because he had the intelligence and ability to stand alone and make trans Jordan a viable nation. Seems that you are lacking in your intelligence on the history of Palestine in the modern era because your Catholic brainwashing into hating all Jews based on a blood libel clouds your thought process

Article 25 does not support any position it simple states that Trans-Jordania had nothing to do with Palestine and was a separate territory with different people living in the area called Jordanians. Not Palestinians.

In fact, there are addenda/noted to the Mandate that make this crystal clear. To wit:

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Would you understand it better if it was in Italian. In 1917 the original mandate of Palestine included what is now Jordan. In 1923 the LoN decided that Palestine was not to become a wholly arab muslim or Jewish state so partitioned it into Jewish Palestine and arab muslim Palestine. This is what article 25 refers to.

I see you have refused to put to paper the actual provisions of the mandate that do not apply to trans Jordan. And your link is nothing more than an invite by the Mandated power to the LoN to decide on. It is not the decision of the LoN as you are trying to imply.

Caught out LYING again freddy boy, another black mark against your name.

 

[Phoenall]

I am proud to be a Zionist.

I am proud to be a Zionist.

Your IDF's are pitiful and their singing sucks. One more thing , tell them the bible is not historical. Tell the rapper that there never was a exodus. Do you live in Israel , if not please go, I hear they are building more row apartments.

And that still doesn't explain why there isn't any mention of this fake Palestine or Palestinians in any of the three religious books, the Old Testament, the New Testament, and even in the Koran.

"The names "Palestine" and "Palestina" occur four times in the Old Testament portion of the King James Bible (1611), the most influential English translation in history.



Hebrew Streams Palestine in the Bible

Another CATHOLIC lie as the most influential is either the Gideon or the New English, the King James is of no relevance today and contains many errors.

 

[Phoenall]

Well, there is a large population of Palestinians in Jordan now, they are the majority. They were evicted from Palestine as you well know. The people of Trans-Jordania were desert people belonging to bedouin tribes:

From the same British report of 1921:

Palestine:

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews.

Trans-Jordania:

"Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people. It contains a few small towns and large areas of fertile land, producing excellent wheat and barley. The people are partly settled townsmen and agriculturists, partly wandering Bedouin; the latter, however, cultivate areas, more or less fixed, during certain seasons of the year. -

See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

Correct 700,000 in Palestine as it stood at that time, which included trans Jordan. It was not a separate entity until 1923, and still came under the British Mandate.

 

[Phoenall]

I am proud to be a Zionist.

I am proud to be a Zionist.

Your IDF's are pitiful and their singing sucks. One more thing , tell them the bible is not historical. Tell the rapper that there never was a exodus. Do you live in Israel , if not please go, I hear they are building more row apartments.

And that still doesn't explain why there isn't any mention of this fake Palestine or Palestinians in any of the three religious books, the Old Testament, the New Testament, and even in the Koran.

"The names "Palestine" and "Palestina" occur four times in the Old Testament portion of the King James Bible (1611), the most influential English translation in history.



Hebrew Streams Palestine in the Bible

There you go providing once again that you are nothing but a sick bigot.

The fake translation where they fraudulently put Palestina instead of what it's supposed to be PHILISTIA. Ha ha ha. Go kill yourself.

Joel 3 4 Now what have you against me Tyre and Sidon and all you regions of Philistia Are you repaying me for something I have done If you are paying me back I will swiftly and speedily return on your own heads what you have done.
"Now what have you against me, Tyre and Sidon and all you regions of Philistia? Are you repaying me for something I have done? If you are paying me back, I will swiftly and speedily return on your own heads what you have done.

Exodus 15 14 The nations will hear and tremble anguish will grip the people of Philistia.
The nations will hear and tremble; anguish will grip the people of Philistia.

Isaiah 14 29 Do not rejoice all you Philistines that the rod that struck you is broken from the root of that snake will spring up a viper its fruit will be a darting venomous serpent.
Do not rejoice, all you Philistines, that the rod that struck you is broken; from the root of that snake will spring up a viper, its fruit will be a darting, venomous serpent.

Damn! That's a pretty damn condemnation.

Maybe you should read your own link, MORON:


Conclusion
In the Hebrew Bible, the coastal land Peleshet (Philistia) is occupied by the Pelishtim (Philistines) who originated from the Aegean Sea area, including Cyprus and Caphtor-Ceret-Crete.

“Palestine” in Christian Bibles
Neither "Palestina" or "Philistia" occur in the Greek New Testament.

Doesn't matter, as all students of latin know. Palestina was the Latin word for "
Filistei" . Only punk propagandists like you promulgate the Zionist propaganda.

"Palestina: terra dei Filistei

Palestina significa "Terra dei Filistei". In arabo Filastin (o Falastin) vuol dire sia "Palestina" che "Filistei", filastiyy o falastiyy vuol dire sia "filisteo" sia "palestinese".

Nelle nostre lingue la differenza deriva dalle diverse tradizioni. Infatti la Bibbia, partendo da un termine ebraico trascritto in latino, ci ha tramandato "Filistei", mentre la tradizione classica ci ha trasmesso "Palestina", dal latino Palaestina, e "Palestinesi"."



Palestina La terra dei Filistei

Keep trying it is just CATHOLIC propaganda that is proven to be anti Jewish. The correct term is philista as the direct translation from the Hebrew scrolls show.

 

[Phoenall]

Luckily we have film to demonstrate that Ruddy is a propagandist punk.

So where are the signs saying I am a muslim and I am a Christian to prove your claims ?

 

[Penelope]

If any of you Zionist were right there would of never been a need for the Zionist movement, the Balfour Declaration, and well the exaggeration of the what happened to the Jews of Poland in WWII. Obviously few Jews lived in Palestine and fewer yet wanted to move there. Therefore, we have Shamir working with the Nazis, and the worst one can make the holocaust seem the more the Jews would want to move to Israel, since for a middle class Jew there was no work there and the wealthy Jews didn't want to move there, but the poor young Jews , willing to work the land and build roads and fight is just what was needed.

Before that the Jews, Christians, and Arab Muslims living there were mainly peaceful.

It high time you Zionist admit to facts and those listed above are facts.

 

[Phoenall]

Everyone uses the word "Zionism" like it's a dirty word. I really just cannot understand it. If you look at a map of the world or a globe, Israel is just a dot. People speak of it as if it had as much territory as Russia. There are twenty-five nations that have a cross on their flags, fifteen that have a crescent. Why does it bother everyone so much that a tiny strip of land become the only nation with a star of David on its flag? Leaving aside history or religion for the moment, Jews have suffered as the "guests" of other countries for 2,000 years.

That doesn't give you carte blanche to make the Palestinian's suffer.

I'm not even talking about the Holocaust for the moment. There were mass expulsions, pogroms, blood libels, inquisitions, ghettos, forced baptisms, etc. These weren't dim memories from the past either.

Yeah. And one of them was Deir Yassin.

My own parents were victims. My dad lost his whole family in the Holocaust before he came to America. My mom's family were deported to Siberia by the Russians from Poland. After the war, they had nowhere to go.

Just like Gazans today after you bombed them back to the stone age.

Today it's very easy to immigrate to America, but at that time they were denied visas.

Just like the spouses of Arab-Israeli's.

So they made their way to Israel. (Later my dad, as a tourist in Israel, met my mom and took her to America.) Israel was the only place the Ethiopian Jews could go to escape famine, where Russian Jews could go to escape Communism, etc. Many people would now be asking why the Palestinians had to suffer to make room for the Jews.

Because you're a sick and selfish society, that cannot live with others.

But the Arabs have 22 countries, rich in oil and other resources, where they can eat Arabic food, wear their clothes, practice their culture and religions, listen to their music, etc. It's not Israel's fault that they can't get their shit together. Oh, fuck you! It is you fault you stole their land! It is you fault you took more land that you were given.

Look how well the Eastern European countries adapted to democracy and normalcy after Communism fell in 1989 and compare that to what happened after the Arab Spring. People on the Board keep on debating over and over and over again about Israel's creation in 1947-1948. Get over it already! It's been 2 or 3 generations since then and the people there think of themselves as Israelis, not Europeans or Yemenis or anything else. Just accept the fact that Israel exists and work for a peaceful resolution to the conflict. Get a life and don't be more "Palestinian" than the Palestinians themselves! End of rant.

We've accepted the fact Israel exists. That's not the issue. It's now time for Israel to let the Palestinian's exist.

Their violent actions do

Now proven to be arab muslim propaganda and the numbers are out by at least 500%

I see that America is still denying entry to the spouses of known terrorists, so when will you start a campaign of anti American hatred ?

As your words show you are the one who comes from a sick and selfish society that just cant get along with the Jews, in fact you are consumed by your hatred of the Jews.

Actually it is the arab muslims that have taken more land than they were allocated as the west bank and gaza were granted to the Jews under International law. The arab muslims stole that land from the Jews because they want everything as promised by their religion.

Get it right as it is the Palestinians that are refusing to allow themselves to exist. Why wont they take the next step on the road to a nation and free determination, could it be that they would lose blood money and have to start raising taxes. Or is it because they would have to negotiate in good faith a lasting peace and mutual borders with their neighbours ?

 

[Phoenall]

And that still doesn't explain why there isn't any mention of this fake Palestine or Palestinians in any of the three religious books, the Old Testament, the New Testament, and even in the Koran.

"The names "Palestine" and "Palestina" occur four times in the Old Testament portion of the King James Bible (1611), the most influential English translation in history.



Hebrew Streams Palestine in the Bible

There you go providing once again that you are nothing but a sick bigot.

The fake translation where they fraudulently put Palestina instead of what it's supposed to be PHILISTIA. Ha ha ha. Go kill yourself.

Joel 3 4 Now what have you against me Tyre and Sidon and all you regions of Philistia Are you repaying me for something I have done If you are paying me back I will swiftly and speedily return on your own heads what you have done.
"Now what have you against me, Tyre and Sidon and all you regions of Philistia? Are you repaying me for something I have done? If you are paying me back, I will swiftly and speedily return on your own heads what you have done.

Exodus 15 14 The nations will hear and tremble anguish will grip the people of Philistia.
The nations will hear and tremble; anguish will grip the people of Philistia.

Isaiah 14 29 Do not rejoice all you Philistines that the rod that struck you is broken from the root of that snake will spring up a viper its fruit will be a darting venomous serpent.
Do not rejoice, all you Philistines, that the rod that struck you is broken; from the root of that snake will spring up a viper, its fruit will be a darting, venomous serpent.

Damn! That's a pretty damn condemnation.

Maybe you should read your own link, MORON:


Conclusion
In the Hebrew Bible, the coastal land Peleshet (Philistia) is occupied by the Pelishtim (Philistines) who originated from the Aegean Sea area, including Cyprus and Caphtor-Ceret-Crete.

“Palestine” in Christian Bibles
Neither "Palestina" or "Philistia" occur in the Greek New Testament.

Doesn't matter, as all students of latin know. Palestina was the Latin word for "
Filistei" . Only punk propagandists like you promulgate the Zionist propaganda.

"Palestina: terra dei Filistei

Palestina significa "Terra dei Filistei". In arabo Filastin (o Falastin) vuol dire sia "Palestina" che "Filistei", filastiyy o falastiyy vuol dire sia "filisteo" sia "palestinese".

Nelle nostre lingue la differenza deriva dalle diverse tradizioni. Infatti la Bibbia, partendo da un termine ebraico trascritto in latino, ci ha tramandato "Filistei", mentre la tradizione classica ci ha trasmesso "Palestina", dal latino Palaestina, e "Palestinesi"."



Palestina La terra dei Filistei

Philistine have nothing to do with Palestina you fucking lying moron.

Philistines are an Aegean people the ancient Hebrews defeated and are considered extinct. Having nothing to do with today's invading Arabs who started calling themselves Palestinians as of the 1960's Besides both the Old and New Testaments condemn the Philistines.

Keep trying, you sick bigot. It's fun watching all the blind hate oozing out of you.

What blind hate, punk. Stating fact, is not "blind hate". You are the blind hater. Trying to use myth to justify the European colonization of Palestine is "blind hate".

The Christian and Muslim Palestinians were calling themselves the people of Palestine since Palestine was made a territory of the Mandate at least. What is entertaining is watching you try to deny the facts. It is hilarious, punk.

In 1922 the Europeans called themselves the Zionists and the Palestinians called themselves Palestinian. Facts are a bitch, aren't they punk. Notice how even then the European Jew invasion was called alien.

"
PALESTINE.
CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB
DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION.


No. 1.
The Palestine Arab Delegation to the Secretary of State for the Colonies.

"......If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration..........."
- See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

Means nothing as it is not legally binding, demanding that they be given full control of the world is a non starter. Stop pushing your anti Jewish Catholic propaganda it no longer works.

 

[Phoenall]

There you go providing once again that you are nothing but a sick bigot.

The fake translation where they fraudulently put Palestina instead of what it's supposed to be PHILISTIA. Ha ha ha. Go kill yourself.

Joel 3 4 Now what have you against me Tyre and Sidon and all you regions of Philistia Are you repaying me for something I have done If you are paying me back I will swiftly and speedily return on your own heads what you have done.
"Now what have you against me, Tyre and Sidon and all you regions of Philistia? Are you repaying me for something I have done? If you are paying me back, I will swiftly and speedily return on your own heads what you have done.

Exodus 15 14 The nations will hear and tremble anguish will grip the people of Philistia.
The nations will hear and tremble; anguish will grip the people of Philistia.

Isaiah 14 29 Do not rejoice all you Philistines that the rod that struck you is broken from the root of that snake will spring up a viper its fruit will be a darting venomous serpent.
Do not rejoice, all you Philistines, that the rod that struck you is broken; from the root of that snake will spring up a viper, its fruit will be a darting, venomous serpent.

Damn! That's a pretty damn condemnation.

Maybe you should read your own link, MORON:


Conclusion
In the Hebrew Bible, the coastal land Peleshet (Philistia) is occupied by the Pelishtim (Philistines) who originated from the Aegean Sea area, including Cyprus and Caphtor-Ceret-Crete.

“Palestine” in Christian Bibles
Neither "Palestina" or "Philistia" occur in the Greek New Testament.

Doesn't matter, as all students of latin know. Palestina was the Latin word for "
Filistei" . Only punk propagandists like you promulgate the Zionist propaganda.

"Palestina: terra dei Filistei

Palestina significa "Terra dei Filistei". In arabo Filastin (o Falastin) vuol dire sia "Palestina" che "Filistei", filastiyy o falastiyy vuol dire sia "filisteo" sia "palestinese".

Nelle nostre lingue la differenza deriva dalle diverse tradizioni. Infatti la Bibbia, partendo da un termine ebraico trascritto in latino, ci ha tramandato "Filistei", mentre la tradizione classica ci ha trasmesso "Palestina", dal latino Palaestina, e "Palestinesi"."



Palestina La terra dei Filistei

Philistine have nothing to do with Palestina you fucking lying moron.

Philistines are an Aegean people the ancient Hebrews defeated and are considered extinct. Having nothing to do with today's invading Arabs who started calling themselves Palestinians as of the 1960's Besides both the Old and New Testaments condemn the Philistines.

Keep trying, you sick bigot. It's fun watching all the blind hate oozing out of you.

What blind hate, punk. Stating fact, is not "blind hate". You are the blind hater. Trying to use myth to justify the European colonization of Palestine is "blind hate".

The Christian and Muslim Palestinians were calling themselves the people of Palestine since Palestine was made a territory of the Mandate at least. What is entertaining is watching you try to deny the facts. It is hilarious, punk.

In 1922 the Europeans called themselves the Zionists and the Palestinians called themselves Palestinian. Facts are a bitch, aren't they punk. Notice how even then the European Jew invasion was called alien.

"
PALESTINE.
CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB
DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION.


No. 1.
The Palestine Arab Delegation to the Secretary of State for the Colonies.

"......If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration..........."
- See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

Yeah facts are a bitch and so are you, you lying dickhead:

A 364 of 3 September 1947


163. The Arabs of Palestine consider themselves as having a "natural" right to that country, although they have not been in possession of it as a sovereign nation.


166. The desire of the Arab people of Palestine to safeguard their national existence is a very natural desire. However, Palestinian nationalism, as distinct from Arab nationalism, is itself a relatively new phenomenon, which appeared only after the division of the "Arab rectangle" by the settlement of the First World War.

It just says that "The desire of the Arab people of Palestine to safeguard their national existence is a very natural desire."

Why do you post something that makes my point. Certainly, European Jews had no right to remove the indigenous people of Palestine. You are not the sharpest knife in the drawer, punk.

They didn't remove those arab muslims that were not involved in violence against Israel and the Jews prior to 1948. As the videos show the arab muslims themselves admit they where advised to leave by the arab armies. The arab muslims had no right to remove 1 million Jews from Palestine and other places, but they did and we don't see you making a big song and dance about that atrocity

 

[Phoenall]

By the way the same document you linked states:

"(1) Although paragraph 4 of Article 22 stipulated that certain communities had reached a stage of development where their existence as "independent nations" could be provisionally recognized, subject only to a limited period of tutelage under a mandatory Power in the form of administrative advice and assistance until such time as these communities would be able to stand alone, the Palestine Mandate violated this stipulation by deliberately omitting immediate provisional recognition of the independence of the territory and by granting to the mandatory Power in article 1 of the Mandate "full powers of legislation and administration".

(2) The wishes of the Palestine community had not been "a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory", as provided for in Article 22, paragraph 4 of the Covenant.

(b) The principle and right of national self-determination were violated....."A 364 of 3 September 1947

You lose as usual, punk.

Missing the fact that this is not a legal document shows that you are afraid of posting the truth. Your Jew Hatred is showing again

 

[montelatici]

By the way the same document you linked states:

"(1) Although paragraph 4 of Article 22 stipulated that certain communities had reached a stage of development where their existence as "independent nations" could be provisionally recognized, subject only to a limited period of tutelage under a mandatory Power in the form of administrative advice and assistance until such time as these communities would be able to stand alone, the Palestine Mandate violated this stipulation by deliberately omitting immediate provisional recognition of the independence of the territory and by granting to the mandatory Power in article 1 of the Mandate "full powers of legislation and administration".

(2) The wishes of the Palestine community had not been "a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory", as provided for in Article 22, paragraph 4 of the Covenant.

(b) The principle and right of national self-determination were violated....."A 364 of 3 September 1947

You lose as usual, punk.

Missing the fact that this is not a legal document shows that you are afraid of posting the truth. Your Jew Hatred is showing again

No, it is part and parcel of the Mandate. A primary legal document. How does presenting the facts translate into "Jew hate"? The only hater here is you. Your pathological hate for Muslims (and Roman Catholics) is a sign of serious emotional issues. Your pathological bullshitting is another symptom of deeper issues you have.

 

[Phoenall]

By the way the same document you linked states:

"(1) Although paragraph 4 of Article 22 stipulated that certain communities had reached a stage of development where their existence as "independent nations" could be provisionally recognized, subject only to a limited period of tutelage under a mandatory Power in the form of administrative advice and assistance until such time as these communities would be able to stand alone, the Palestine Mandate violated this stipulation by deliberately omitting immediate provisional recognition of the independence of the territory and by granting to the mandatory Power in article 1 of the Mandate "full powers of legislation and administration".

(2) The wishes of the Palestine community had not been "a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory", as provided for in Article 22, paragraph 4 of the Covenant.

(b) The principle and right of national self-determination were violated....."A 364 of 3 September 1947

You lose as usual, punk.

Missing the fact that this is not a legal document shows that you are afraid of posting the truth. Your Jew Hatred is showing again

No, it is part and parcel of the Mandate. A primary legal document. How does presenting the facts translate into "Jew hate"? The only hater here is you. Your pathological hate for Muslims (and Roman Catholics) is a sign of serious emotional issues. Your pathological bullshitting is another symptom of deeper issues you have.

Then why was it headed CORESPONDENCE in other words letters

 

[P F Tinmore]

By the way the same document you linked states:

"(1) Although paragraph 4 of Article 22 stipulated that certain communities had reached a stage of development where their existence as "independent nations" could be provisionally recognized, subject only to a limited period of tutelage under a mandatory Power in the form of administrative advice and assistance until such time as these communities would be able to stand alone, the Palestine Mandate violated this stipulation by deliberately omitting immediate provisional recognition of the independence of the territory and by granting to the mandatory Power in article 1 of the Mandate "full powers of legislation and administration".

(2) The wishes of the Palestine community had not been "a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory", as provided for in Article 22, paragraph 4 of the Covenant.

(b) The principle and right of national self-determination were violated....."A 364 of 3 September 1947

You lose as usual, punk.

Missing the fact that this is not a legal document shows that you are afraid of posting the truth. Your Jew Hatred is showing again

No, it is part and parcel of the Mandate. A primary legal document. How does presenting the facts translate into "Jew hate"? The only hater here is you. Your pathological hate for Muslims (and Roman Catholics) is a sign of serious emotional issues. Your pathological bullshitting is another symptom of deeper issues you have.

Then why was it headed CORESPONDENCE in other words letters

Indeed, and the Balfour Declaration was just a letter with no legal standing.

 

[Phoenall]

By the way the same document you linked states:

"(1) Although paragraph 4 of Article 22 stipulated that certain communities had reached a stage of development where their existence as "independent nations" could be provisionally recognized, subject only to a limited period of tutelage under a mandatory Power in the form of administrative advice and assistance until such time as these communities would be able to stand alone, the Palestine Mandate violated this stipulation by deliberately omitting immediate provisional recognition of the independence of the territory and by granting to the mandatory Power in article 1 of the Mandate "full powers of legislation and administration".

(2) The wishes of the Palestine community had not been "a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory", as provided for in Article 22, paragraph 4 of the Covenant.

(b) The principle and right of national self-determination were violated....."A 364 of 3 September 1947

You lose as usual, punk.

Missing the fact that this is not a legal document shows that you are afraid of posting the truth. Your Jew Hatred is showing again

No, it is part and parcel of the Mandate. A primary legal document. How does presenting the facts translate into "Jew hate"? The only hater here is you. Your pathological hate for Muslims (and Roman Catholics) is a sign of serious emotional issues. Your pathological bullshitting is another symptom of deeper issues you have.

Then why was it headed CORESPONDENCE in other words letters

Indeed, and the Balfour Declaration was just a letter with no legal standing.

Until the LoN took charge and made it International law in 1923, giving it a legal standing

 

[Art__Allm]

Jewish history isn't an invention, it's a fact.

Well, the history of the "Jewish people" is an invention, because the "Jewish people" is an invention. As simple as that.

Even honest Israel professors admit that, and their books are best-sellers even in Israel:

The Invention of the Jewish People Shlomo Sand Yael Lotan 9781844676231 Amazon.com Books

Yes, there is a history of Judaism, no problems with that, and there is a history of different ethnic groups, like Ashkenazi (the descendants of Khazars) or the Sephardic Jews, the Arab Jews, the Chinese Jews, Ethiopian Jews etc.

All these different ethnic groups adopted Judaism, but they are different people.

Zionists try to melt them into one single people, but this does work.

There is racism in Israel, white Ashkenazi Jews hate swarthy, black or slant-eyed Jews, and vice versa.

White Jews were successful in reducing the fertility of black Jews:

Ethiopian women in Israel given contraceptive without consent World news The Guardian

If white and black Jews in Israel were the same people, why would white Jews be so eager to reduce the number of black Jews?

BTW, Sepahrdic and Ashkenazi Jewish communities in Europe were totally separated from each other, they did not intermarry, they had different Synagogues, and even different cemeteries. If they were one single people, why would they have separated communities in Europe?

Although France expelled its original Jewish population in the Middle Ages, by the time of the French Revolution, there were two distinct Jewish populations. One consisted of Sephardic Jews, originally refugees from the Inquisition and concentrated in the southwest, while the other community was Ashkenazi, concentrated in formerly German Alsace, and speaking mainly Yiddish. The two communities were so separate and different that the National Assembly emancipated them separately in 1790 and 1791.[89]
Ashkenazi Jews - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

As we see, even in 1790 these two Jewish communities were different ethnic groups, with different spoken languages, and they hated each other and never intermixed.

And even today in Israel Ashkenazi Jews still believe that the swarthy oriental Jews are inferior, they protest and do not permit their children to go to the same schools with black and swarthy Jews.

If Jews were one single ethnic group, these things would never happen.

"No court ruling or Education Ministry decision can bring the two groups together," an Immanuel resident said Wednesday.

"It's like putting Americans and Africans together. They can't study together with such huge mental differences," he said.

Some 70 Ashkenazi students of the Beit Yaakov girls' school stopped attending classes two days before the Hanukkah holiday - in protest of the ministry's efforts to force the ultra-Orthodox school to rescind the segregation, in keeping with the High Court ruling.

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As we see, they still have racial segregated schools in Israel, and white Jews refuse to let their children to racially mixes schools.

How on earth can this happen, if the "Jewish people" is not an invention?

There are many different Jewish people, with totally different histories, and the same is true with different Muslim and Jewish people.

To talk about the "History of Jewish people" is as idiotic as to talk about the "History of Christian people" or the "History of Muslim people". Every ethnic group has a different history, and different ethnic groups who adopted Judaism also have different histories.

BTW, the history of different ethnic group, that converted to Judaism, has nothing to to with the legends about the Kingdom of Israel or other fairy tales from the Old Testament, because these ethnic groups have nothing in common with the Hebrews, except the religious mythology.

 

[toastman]

Jewish history isn't an invention, it's a fact.

Well, the history of the "Jewish people" is an invention, because the "Jewish people" is an invention. As simple as that.

Even honest Israel professors admit that, and there books are best-sellers even in Israel:

The Invention of the Jewish People Shlomo Sand Yael Lotan 9781844676231 Amazon.com Books

Yes, there is a history of Judaism, no problems with that, and there is a history of different ethnic groups, like Ashkenazi (the descendants of Khazars) or the Sephardic Jews, the Arab Jews, the Chinese Jews, Ethiopian Jews etc.

All these different ethnic groups adopted Judaism, but they are different people.

Zionists try to melt them into one single people, but this does work.

There is racism in Israel, white Ashkenazi Jews hate swarthy, black or slant-eye Jews, and vice versa.

White Jews were successful in reducing the fertility of black Jews:

Ethiopian women in Israel given contraceptive without consent World news The Guardian

If white and black Jews in Israel were the same people, why would white Jews be so eager to reduce the number of black Jews?

BTW, Sepahrdic and Ashkenazi Jewish communities in Europe were totally separated from each other, they did not intermarry, they had different Synagogues, and even different cemeteries. If they were one single people, why would they have separated communities in Europe?

Although France expelled its original Jewish population in the Middle Ages, by the time of the French Revolution, there were two distinct Jewish populations. One consisted of Sephardic Jews, originally refugees from the Inquisition and concentrated in the southwest, while the other community was Ashkenazi, concentrated in formerly German Alsace, and speaking mainly Yiddish. The two communities were so separate and different that the National Assembly emancipated them separately in 1790 and 1791.[89]
Ashkenazi Jews - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

As we see, even in 1790 these two Jewish communities were different ethnic groups, with different spoken languages, and they hated each other and never intermixed.

And even today in Israel Ashkenazi Jews still believe that the swarthy oriental Jews are inferior, they protest and do not permit their children to go to the same schools with black and swarthy Jews.

If Jews were one single ethnic group, these things would never happen.

"No court ruling or Education Ministry decision can bring the two groups together," an Immanuel resident said Wednesday.

"It's like putting Americans and Africans together. They can't study together with such huge mental differences," he said.

Some 70 Ashkenazi students of the Beit Yaakov girls' school stopped attending classes two days before the Hanukkah holiday - in protest of the ministry's efforts to force the ultra-Orthodox school to rescind the segregation, in keeping with the High Court ruling.

Advertisement

As we see, they still have racial segregated schools in Israel, and white Jews refuse to let their children to racially mixes schools.

How on earth can this happen, if the "Jewish people" is not an invention?

There are many different Jewish people, with totally different histories, and the same is true for different Muslim and Jewish people.

To talk about the "History of Jewish people" is as idiotic as to talk about the History of Christian people or the History of Muslim people. Every ethnic group has a different history, and different ethnic groups who adopted Judaism also have different histories.

Still trying to peddle that Khazar lie I see

As for racism in Israel, there is racism in every country. Those who don't like Blacks/Non Jews are a minority in Israel, always have been and always will be.
Most Israelis are secular and have no problem with other religions/races living among them.

Sorry, but you're not going to fool us with your bigotry.

 

[toastman]

Where is your proof that Israel successfully reduced the Black population in Israel ?

 

[toastman]

Jewish history isn't an invention, it's a fact.

Well, the history of the "Jewish people" is an invention, because the "Jewish people" is an invention. As simple as that.

Even honest Israel professors admit that, and their books are best-sellers even in Israel:

The Invention of the Jewish People Shlomo Sand Yael Lotan 9781844676231 Amazon.com Books

Yes, there is a history of Judaism, no problems with that, and there is a history of different ethnic groups, like Ashkenazi (the descendants of Khazars) or the Sephardic Jews, the Arab Jews, the Chinese Jews, Ethiopian Jews etc.

All these different ethnic groups adopted Judaism, but they are different people.

Zionists try to melt them into one single people, but this does work.

There is racism in Israel, white Ashkenazi Jews hate swarthy, black or slant-eyed Jews, and vice versa.

White Jews were successful in reducing the fertility of black Jews:

Ethiopian women in Israel given contraceptive without consent World news The Guardian

If white and black Jews in Israel were the same people, why would white Jews be so eager to reduce the number of black Jews?

BTW, Sepahrdic and Ashkenazi Jewish communities in Europe were totally separated from each other, they did not intermarry, they had different Synagogues, and even different cemeteries. If they were one single people, why would they have separated communities in Europe?

Although France expelled its original Jewish population in the Middle Ages, by the time of the French Revolution, there were two distinct Jewish populations. One consisted of Sephardic Jews, originally refugees from the Inquisition and concentrated in the southwest, while the other community was Ashkenazi, concentrated in formerly German Alsace, and speaking mainly Yiddish. The two communities were so separate and different that the National Assembly emancipated them separately in 1790 and 1791.[89]
Ashkenazi Jews - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

As we see, even in 1790 these two Jewish communities were different ethnic groups, with different spoken languages, and they hated each other and never intermixed.

And even today in Israel Ashkenazi Jews still believe that the swarthy oriental Jews are inferior, they protest and do not permit their children to go to the same schools with black and swarthy Jews.

If Jews were one single ethnic group, these things would never happen.

"No court ruling or Education Ministry decision can bring the two groups together," an Immanuel resident said Wednesday.

"It's like putting Americans and Africans together. They can't study together with such huge mental differences," he said.

Some 70 Ashkenazi students of the Beit Yaakov girls' school stopped attending classes two days before the Hanukkah holiday - in protest of the ministry's efforts to force the ultra-Orthodox school to rescind the segregation, in keeping with the High Court ruling.

Advertisement

As we see, they still have racial segregated schools in Israel, and white Jews refuse to let their children to racially mixes schools.

How on earth can this happen, if the "Jewish people" is not an invention?

There are many different Jewish people, with totally different histories, and the same is true for different Muslim and Jewish people.

To talk about the "History of Jewish people" is as idiotic as to talk about the History of Christian people or the History of Muslim people. Every ethnic group has a different history, and different ethnic groups who adopted Judaism also have different histories.

"BTW, Sepahrdic and Ashkenazi Jewish communities in Europe were totally separated from each other, they did not intermarry, they had different Synagogues, and even different cemeteries. If they were one single people, why would they have separated communities in Europe?"

Extremely stupid question. The three main religions have branches out other religions. Christianity has Catholicism, Protestantism, Calvinism etc.. They have different churches, but they still consider themselves to be Christian. It's just that their beliefs differ a bit.

Islam has Sunni's and Shiite's. Again, different mosque's, different communities.

Judaism has Ashkenazis and Sephardics. Then there are those who are Orthodox etc....
Once again, they have different synagogues. That doesn't mean that they are not one people.

 

[Roudy]

Jewish history isn't an invention, it's a fact.

Well, the history of the "Jewish people" is an invention, because the "Jewish people" is an invention. As simple as that.

Even honest Israel professors admit that, and their books are best-sellers even in Israel:

The Invention of the Jewish People Shlomo Sand Yael Lotan 9781844676231 Amazon.com Books

Yes, there is a history of Judaism, no problems with that, and there is a history of different ethnic groups, like Ashkenazi (the descendants of Khazars) or the Sephardic Jews, the Arab Jews, the Chinese Jews, Ethiopian Jews etc.

All these different ethnic groups adopted Judaism, but they are different people.

Zionists try to melt them into one single people, but this does work.

There is racism in Israel, white Ashkenazi Jews hate swarthy, black or slant-eyed Jews, and vice versa.

White Jews were successful in reducing the fertility of black Jews:

Ethiopian women in Israel given contraceptive without consent World news The Guardian

If white and black Jews in Israel were the same people, why would white Jews be so eager to reduce the number of black Jews?

BTW, Sepahrdic and Ashkenazi Jewish communities in Europe were totally separated from each other, they did not intermarry, they had different Synagogues, and even different cemeteries. If they were one single people, why would they have separated communities in Europe?

Although France expelled its original Jewish population in the Middle Ages, by the time of the French Revolution, there were two distinct Jewish populations. One consisted of Sephardic Jews, originally refugees from the Inquisition and concentrated in the southwest, while the other community was Ashkenazi, concentrated in formerly German Alsace, and speaking mainly Yiddish. The two communities were so separate and different that the National Assembly emancipated them separately in 1790 and 1791.[89]
Ashkenazi Jews - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

As we see, even in 1790 these two Jewish communities were different ethnic groups, with different spoken languages, and they hated each other and never intermixed.

And even today in Israel Ashkenazi Jews still believe that the swarthy oriental Jews are inferior, they protest and do not permit their children to go to the same schools with black and swarthy Jews.

If Jews were one single ethnic group, these things would never happen.

"No court ruling or Education Ministry decision can bring the two groups together," an Immanuel resident said Wednesday.

"It's like putting Americans and Africans together. They can't study together with such huge mental differences," he said.

Some 70 Ashkenazi students of the Beit Yaakov girls' school stopped attending classes two days before the Hanukkah holiday - in protest of the ministry's efforts to force the ultra-Orthodox school to rescind the segregation, in keeping with the High Court ruling.

Advertisement

As we see, they still have racial segregated schools in Israel, and white Jews refuse to let their children to racially mixes schools.

How on earth can this happen, if the "Jewish people" is not an invention?

There are many different Jewish people, with totally different histories, and the same is true with different Muslim and Jewish people.

To talk about the "History of Jewish people" is as idiotic as to talk about the "History of Christian people" or the "History of Muslim people". Every ethnic group has a different history, and different ethnic groups who adopted Judaism also have different histories.

BTW, the history of different ethnic group, that converted to Judaism, has nothing to to with the legends about the Kingdom of Israel or other fairy tales from the Old Testament, because these ethnic groups have nothing in common with the Hebrews, except the religious mythology.

Shlomo Sand has been disproved and debunked. Remove the sand from your ass I mean head. One moron named sand doesn't change thousands of years of factual Jewish history, you are an idiot.