100,000 people shot in the US per year! Good guy saving lives?

[Wry Catcher]

Gun Control - ProCon.org

Worth a read ^^^

 

[Wry Catcher]

Gun Control - ProCon.org

Worth a read ^^^

Here are some stats on all gun deaths:

US Gun Deaths, 1999-2015 - Gun Control - ProCon.org

Sounds like y'all need a constitutional amendment.

Gun Control - ProCon.org

Worth a read ^^^

 

[Skull Pilot]

NO ONE is calling for the banning of ALL guns....our country is too invested in the macho image......BUT, sane folks SHOULD call for the banning of military-style, assault weapons with extensive ammo clips whose ONLY purpose is to kill as many people as possible in the shortest number of minutes.....

All that you gun nuts are doing is FACILITATING murderous wackos' jobs for them.

As who grew up in no guns country, we say ban all....we know what's it like to live in peace.

What country would that be?

Morocco baby gun free, lived there for 23 Yeats 0 mass shootings and our news have 0 gun crimes or killed people due to guns. Last incident was gang related 1 killed and the gangsters from Holland of Dominican origins were arreted few hours later. And people still in shock there was a gun in the country LOL

Repubtards claim crime exploded in England without guns.

Crime rate in England and Wales falls 7% to lowest level since 1981

And yet, the Violent Crime Rate is still higher than the United States.

No it is not.

United Kingdom vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

The UK has 3 times more crime per capita than the US
Twice as many assaults and twice as many rapes

 

[KissMy]

Violent crime murder rate in the USA is 18 times higher than in UK

 

[Skull Pilot]

Violent crime murder rate in the USA is 18 times higher than in UK

Murder isn't the only violent crime you know

 

[KissMy]

5,625,000 people get bullied with guns by current or former romantic partner. An estimated 4.5 million of those are women being bullied with guns by abusive partners.

America’s gun homicide rate is 25 times higher than those in other comparable nations.

500,000 guns are stolen every year.

 

[2aguy]

5,625,000 people get bullied with guns by current or former romantic partner. An estimated 4.5 million of those are women being bullied with guns by abusive partners.

America’s gun homicide rate is 25 times higher than those in other comparable nations.

500,000 guns are stolen every year.

And you don't really understand the issue....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...

-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.


These are studies on how often Americans use guns to stop violent criminals......according to bill clinton's Department of Justice study....1,500,000 times a year.

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops, military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

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If you take the studies from that Kleck cites in his paper, 16 of them....and you only average the ones that exclude military and police shootings..the average becomes 2 million...I use those studies because I have the details on them...and they are still 10 studies (including Kleck's)....

 

[2aguy]

5,625,000 people get bullied with guns by current or former romantic partner. An estimated 4.5 million of those are women being bullied with guns by abusive partners.

America’s gun homicide rate is 25 times higher than those in other comparable nations.

500,000 guns are stolen every year.

It wouldn't take a gun to bully a domestic partner, the problem isn't the gun... the problem is picking a violent, abusive male, often with a criminal background, as your boyfriend or husband.....plenty of women are stabbed to death, strangled to death....so guns aren't the issue...and if those women had their own gun, they wouldn't be bullied...or picking horrible men...

 

[2aguy]

Violent crime murder rate in the USA is 18 times higher than in UK

They banned and confiscated guns in Britain...their violent crime rate is higher than ours and London is now more violent than New York city......their gun crime rate and their violent crime rate went up after they banned guns...ours went down as more Americans now own and carry guns...

Your point?

 

[2aguy]

5,625,000 people get bullied with guns by current or former romantic partner. An estimated 4.5 million of those are women being bullied with guns by abusive partners.

America’s gun homicide rate is 25 times higher than those in other comparable nations.

500,000 guns are stolen every year.

And what happens to people without guns when their government decides to murder them...

WILLIAMS: Fascism And Communism

The People's Republic of China tops the list, with 76 million lives lost at the hands of the government from 1949 to 1987.

The Soviet Union follows, with 62 million lives lost from 1917 to 1987.

Adolf Hitler's Nazi German government killed 21 million people between 1933 and 1945.

Then there are lesser murdering regimes, such as Nationalist China, Japan, Turkey, Vietnam and Mexico. According to Rummel's research, the 20th century saw 262 millionpeople's lives lost at the hands of their own governments.

Since you like to put you posts in bold.....

People without guns murdered by their governments.....


The People's Republic of China tops the list, with 76 million lives lost at the hands of the government from 1949 to 1987.

The Soviet Union follows, with 62 million lives lost from 1917 to 1987.

Adolf Hitler's Nazi German government killed 21 million people between 1933 and 1945.

Then there are lesser murdering regimes, such as Nationalist China, Japan, Turkey, Vietnam and Mexico. According to Rummel's research, the 20th century saw 262 millionpeople's lives lost at the hands of their own governments.

 

[2aguy]

5,625,000 people get bullied with guns by current or former romantic partner. An estimated 4.5 million of those are women being bullied with guns by abusive partners.

America’s gun homicide rate is 25 times higher than those in other comparable nations.

500,000 guns are stolen every year.

Britain banned and confiscated guns in 1996......

2017...

Firearms amnesty as UK gun crime rises 27% this year

The amnesty comes less than a month after national figures revealed the number of crimes involving firearms in England and Wales increased by 27% to 6,696 in the year ending June 2017.

2009...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .

2016

Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

And violent crime across Britain...after the took guns away from law abiding people...

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.

 

[Wry Catcher]

5,625,000 people get bullied with guns by current or former romantic partner. An estimated 4.5 million of those are women being bullied with guns by abusive partners.

America’s gun homicide rate is 25 times higher than those in other comparable nations.

500,000 guns are stolen every year.

And you don't really understand the issue....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...

-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.


These are studies on how often Americans use guns to stop violent criminals......according to bill clinton's Department of Justice study....1,500,000 times a year.

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops, military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

*****************************************
If you take the studies from that Kleck cites in his paper, 16 of them....and you only average the ones that exclude military and police shootings..the average becomes 2 million...I use those studies because I have the details on them...and they are still 10 studies (including Kleck's)....

Two points to consider:

1. "Correlation does not imply causation" is a phrase used in statistics to emphasize that a correlationbetween two variables does not imply that one causes the other. Many statistical tests calculatecorrelation between variables.
   
2. There are liars, damn liars and statistics.

Keep these two points in your mind's eye, whenever reading a post by the obsessive and compulsive 2aguy.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

100,000 people are shot in the USA every year!

How many were shot by a good guy with a gun saving lives?

The only good guys / hero's are the the people saving more & more lives of gunshot victims thereby reducing the murder rate. Gee I wonder why medical cost keep rising?

And I bet 80% of those are in the ghettos of our most liberal cities with the strictest gun control.

Face it, we don't have a gun problem. We have a cultural problem.

 

[usmcstinger]

Chicago is the center of gun violence and has very strict Gun Laws. So what's causing this Lib Democrat run city's high murder rate? What exactly is the mayor doing to stem the flow of murders?

 

[KissMy]

Chicago is the center of gun violence and has very strict Gun Laws. So what's causing this Lib Democrat run city's high murder rate? What exactly is the mayor doing to stem the flow of murders?

Total bullshit. Chicago don't rank in the top 15 violent homicide crime cities. St. Louis is the worst & they have the least restrictive gun laws in the country & the highest number of police per resident of any city except DC. The problem are the cops who only police for profit by ignoring destitute violent thieves & heavily ticketing home owners & people driving vehicles.

The police costing more than the criminals.

 

[boedicca]

I wonder how many were shot last year because Obabble sponsored Hezbollah's drug trade in the United States....

 

[yiostheoy]

100,000 people are shot in the USA every year!

How many were shot by a good guy with a gun saving lives?

The only good guys / hero's are the the people saving more & more lives of gunshot victims thereby reducing the murder rate. Gee I wonder why medical cost keep rising?

Mostly in Chicago.

And Chicago is a very anti gun town.

 

[yiostheoy]

Chicago is the center of gun violence and has very strict Gun Laws. So what's causing this Lib Democrat run city's high murder rate? What exactly is the mayor doing to stem the flow of murders?

Total bullshit. Chicago don't rank in the top 15 violent homicide crime cities. St. Louis is the worst & they have the least restrictive gun laws in the country & the highest number of police per resident of any city except DC. The problem are the cops who only police for profit by ignoring destitute violent thieves & heavily ticketing home owners & people driving vehicles.

The police costing more than the criminals.

St. Louis is another sh!t hole yah.

Not as bad as Chicago though.

 

[PredFan]

No matter how many times you idiots post this stuff, no matter how many times we debunk it, you never stop.

Basically it comes down to this:

Fuck you, you will never get my guns. Ever.

 

[KissMy]

St Louis has more guns per person & no gun restrictions. Policing for profit is the cause of high crime.