12 Dead in Mass Shooting at So.Cal Bar

[bodecea]

Countries that don`t have 300 million of these OBJECTS don`t have the problem that we do. The more there are of these OBJECTS the easier it is for crazies to get them. That`s a 9th grade Economics lesson.

I'm so glad you made that failed argument.....now, here's where you failed miserably........

In the United states we have a thing called the 2nd Amendment. (look it up)

In a nutshell, it empowers average citizens with the means to repeal government tyranny.
in the course of history, hundreds of millions of unarmed, innocent people have been liquidated by tyrants.

The more of these objects, the more capable a population is to defend itself, and the less likely tyranny can arise.

Name ONE country where an unarmed population can itself, defend itself in the case that the government turns tyrannical. You can't, dumb ass, because there isn't ONE.

And before you knee-jerk and say that can't happen, I remind you of 3 recent cases where it did just that....China, Venezuela and russia ALL of which have dictators now and vast, unarmed populations.

So you see, there is a price to pay for freedom. But overall it is well worth it even if tragic for a very small number.

Now, the actual number of people killed in mass shootings is statistically extremely low. You're more likely to be struck by lightning. Afraid of lightning on a clear day? Your hoplophobia is comparable.

So as anyone can see, your argument is weak at best, silly in fact. (And you were patting yourself on the back over your stupidity and ignorance I'd bet)

You and morons like yourself feel it is better for 300,000,000 people should be at risk rather than understand that in a FREE society, there will always be some violence.

Again, rather than focusing on OBJECTS, If you really give a damn about others safety, which is seriously in doubt, then go read post #93 of this thread.

Thousand Oaks shooting suspect: What we know

Yep. Turns out he’s a white guy. Aren’t they all?

What is it with white guys committing mass murder? Want to bet he’s a Republican?

Another mass murderer that a wall wouldn`t have stopped. I won`t take that bet. The Trumpsters have been on a killing and bomb sending spree lately. We`re not free if we can`t shoot people by the dozens some idiot is telling us.

------------------------------------- i hear and assume that the shooter was from a pervert community , had been picked on and then looked for revenge .

A former Marine. You were talking about perverts?

------------------------------------- talking about this ' kalifornia marine that is a murderer ' and i hear that he was from a community of Perverts . There are lots of Pervert communities in Kalifornia . See 'hollywood' for one Bode .

You hear, eh? What's your source for hearing this?

 

[Asclepias]

PTSD is real and sad. Our vets need help. Those poor victims. Should never have happened.

The frustrating thing is -- how do we improve it?

Vets that come back from overseas need to have consistent medical tests and their guns must be taken away until they are given a 100% bill of health. If they show ANY signs of PTSD they should immediately be placed under medical care, medications monitored and GUNS TAKEN AWAY!!!

Thats going to need money and government interference.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Another mass shooter known to authorities. Obviously we cannot trust the authorities.

If he was Black they would have planted some crack on him and he would already be in prison. They need to start doing the same to white males.

He is dead. How would he be in prison?

I think he means he would have been in prison awhile ago -- since the shooter had multiple run ins with the law -- and it didn't result in him not being able to legally purchase a firearm....

He should have been in an insane asylum!

 

[bodecea]

Pismoe thinks this situation is hilarious, based on the funnies I'm getting from him.
What is wrong with you, man? Say what you want, but this is not a laughing matter.

Of course Pismoe thinks this is funny. Does that surprise you?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

PTSD is real and sad. Our vets need help. Those poor victims. Should never have happened.

The frustrating thing is -- how do we improve it?

still, this guy doesn't get to be innocent. He is still a coward and a murderer. Or was until he shot himself.

I agree but that is in the past. We need a solution to prevent future incidents like these.

 

[Asclepias]

Another mass shooter known to authorities. Obviously we cannot trust the authorities.

If he was Black they would have planted some crack on him and he would already be in prison. They need to start doing the same to white males.

He is dead. How would he be in prison?

If they had planted some crack on him when they knew about him then he would have been in prison.

If the Queen had balls she would be the King. I don't have time for your hypothetical situations, Assfaceias.

If you dont have time dont reply. Since you replied we know you have all the time in the world Azzdefiler.

 

[Crixus]

Another mass shooter known to authorities. Obviously we cannot trust the authorities.

If he was Black they would have planted some crack on him and he would already be in prison. They need to start doing the same to white males.

Nope. It's more fun to watch you hood rats trying to run and keep your pants from falling down. It's REALLY funny when they bring the dog.

So youd rather have fun instead of stopping white men from killing crowds of innocent people. Figures.

Why is it a big deal? Every weekend in Chicago black dudes shoot more then 11 black dudes every weekend.

 

[depotoo]

Pismoe, why do you find my comment funny?

 

[pismoe]

How about requiring metal detectors in bars? There are bars already that require it from patrons. Security guards who are instructed to perform body cavity searches on the patrons is another idea.

Many penitentiaries have that to protect the inmates. What kind of society do we have that we value the lives of Child Molesters doing time more than we value the life of young people getting drunk?

------------------------------------------- big city right next to 'los angeles' . I hear that shooter was from a wierdo 'community' and that he had been picked on . Might be revenge for being picked on .

Ex Marine

----------------------------------------- Once a ' marine , always a marine' RWinger .

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

PTSD is real and sad. Our vets need help. Those poor victims. Should never have happened.

The frustrating thing is -- how do we improve it?

Vets that come back from overseas need to have consistent medical tests and their guns must be taken away until they are given a 100% bill of health. If they show ANY signs of PTSD they should immediately be placed under medical care, medications monitored and GUNS TAKEN AWAY!!!

Thats going to need money and government interference.

The military budget needs to have a line item for post deployment medical needs both physical and mental

 

[deanrd]

California mass shooting gunman identified

"The suspect behind America’s latest mass shooting has been identified as Ian David Long, who law enforcement officials have accused of killing at least 12 people inside the Borderline Bar & Grill in California.

The gunman, identified by NBC News as a heavily-tattooed, 28-year-old white male, used a .45 caliber handgun and was found dead after storming the bar that’s commonly frequented by country music fans on Wednesday nights. Details surrounding the suspect began flooding in from neighbours who told ABC News he was a veteran who may have suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Police said he was an ex-Marine who had multiple run-ins with law enforcement in recent years and likely shot himself Wednesday night in the bar."

Now we have a little more information about the shooter, not much information about what lead him to do it -- seems at this point it is mental illness -- I have also seen others speculate that since he was wearing black and targeted country music fans -- he may be ANTIFA..

Or he may be a republican thinking the club was filled with Jews.
You know how violent Republicans are. Just listen to what Trump says.

 

[bodecea]

California mass shooting gunman identified

"The suspect behind America’s latest mass shooting has been identified as Ian David Long, who law enforcement officials have accused of killing at least 12 people inside the Borderline Bar & Grill in California.

The gunman, identified by NBC News as a heavily-tattooed, 28-year-old white male, used a .45 caliber handgun and was found dead after storming the bar that’s commonly frequented by country music fans on Wednesday nights. Details surrounding the suspect began flooding in from neighbours who told ABC News he was a veteran who may have suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Police said he was an ex-Marine who had multiple run-ins with law enforcement in recent years and likely shot himself Wednesday night in the bar."

Now we have a little more information about the shooter, not much information about what lead him to do it -- seems at this point it is mental illness -- I have also seen others speculate that since he was wearing black and targeted country music fans -- he may be ANTIFA..

This comment should come with a "Trumper Trigger Warning"

Why? Did you listen to what he had to say? I agree with his comments.

 

[Asclepias]

PTSD is real and sad. Our vets need help. Those poor victims. Should never have happened.

The frustrating thing is -- how do we improve it?

Vets that come back from overseas need to have consistent medical tests and their guns must be taken away until they are given a 100% bill of health. If they show ANY signs of PTSD they should immediately be placed under medical care, medications monitored and GUNS TAKEN AWAY!!!

Thats going to need money and government interference.

The military budget needs to have a line item for post deployment medical needs both physical and mental

That sounds like money and government interference to me. Who administers the military budget? I guarantee you its not a private party.

 

[deanrd]

Another mass shooter known to authorities. Obviously we cannot trust the authorities.

If he was Black they would have planted some crack on him and he would already be in prison. They need to start doing the same to white males.

Nope. It's more fun to watch you hood rats trying to run and keep your pants from falling down. It's REALLY funny when they bring the dog.

So youd rather have fun instead of stopping white men from killing crowds of innocent people. Figures.

Why is it a big deal? Every weekend in Chicago black dudes shoot more then 11 black dudes every weekend.

In the meantime in Appalachia infant mortality is skyrocketing and life expectancy is dropping.
And if Republicans have their way, nobody in Appalachia will have healthcare. They’ll just die.

 

[pismoe]

Pismoe, why do you find my comment funny?

------------------------------------ because Americans can't be forced to be incarecerated or forced to take their meds unless they are incarcerated after breaking the law Depotoo ,

 

[Asclepias]

Another mass shooter known to authorities. Obviously we cannot trust the authorities.

If he was Black they would have planted some crack on him and he would already be in prison. They need to start doing the same to white males.

Nope. It's more fun to watch you hood rats trying to run and keep your pants from falling down. It's REALLY funny when they bring the dog.

So youd rather have fun instead of stopping white men from killing crowds of innocent people. Figures.

Why is it a big deal? Every weekend in Chicago black dudes shoot more then 11 black dudes every weekend.

White on white violence is always a big deal. Dont you wonder why white conservative men are always the mass shooters?

 

[bodecea]

California mass shooting gunman identified

"The suspect behind America’s latest mass shooting has been identified as Ian David Long, who law enforcement officials have accused of killing at least 12 people inside the Borderline Bar & Grill in California.

The gunman, identified by NBC News as a heavily-tattooed, 28-year-old white male, used a .45 caliber handgun and was found dead after storming the bar that’s commonly frequented by country music fans on Wednesday nights. Details surrounding the suspect began flooding in from neighbours who told ABC News he was a veteran who may have suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Police said he was an ex-Marine who had multiple run-ins with law enforcement in recent years and likely shot himself Wednesday night in the bar."

Now we have a little more information about the shooter, not much information about what lead him to do it -- seems at this point it is mental illness -- I have also seen others speculate that since he was wearing black and targeted country music fans -- he may be ANTIFA..

And? He wants to help them. What's your point.

I agree with his comments. That's my point.

 

[Polishprince]

That was the same way the Pulse nightclub shooter entered, btw.

The Pulse shooter was an islamonazi soldier for allah. Not really a domestic situation at all, which was unaffected by domestic laws.

Apparently the Mullahs chose Pulse because they hated America and our freedoms.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Another mass shooter known to authorities. Obviously we cannot trust the authorities.

If he was Black they would have planted some crack on him and he would already be in prison. They need to start doing the same to white males.

He is dead. How would he be in prison?

I think he means he would have been in prison awhile ago -- since the shooter had multiple run ins with the law -- and it didn't result in him not being able to legally purchase a firearm....

He should have been in an insane asylum!

Well here is the problem....

"The sheriff also described an incident in April of this year in which deputies were called to Long’s house. “He was somewhat irate” and “acting irrationally,” Dean said, but a mental health specialist who spoke with him at the time ultimately “did not feel that he was qualified to be taken” into custody at the time."

So how can we force people to be committed to asylums when the mental health professionals don't see them a threat...



Mass shooting at a bar in Thousand Oaks, California: what we know so far

 

[bodecea]

PTSD is real and sad. Our vets need help. Those poor victims. Should never have happened.

The frustrating thing is -- how do we improve it?

Vets that come back from overseas need to have consistent medical tests and their guns must be taken away until they are given a 100% bill of health. If they show ANY signs of PTSD they should immediately be placed under medical care, medications monitored and GUNS TAKEN AWAY!!!

You are saying that vets should have their guns confiscated?