12 Dead in Mass Shooting at So.Cal Bar

[OldLady]

Pismoe, why do you find my comment funny?

------------------------------------ because Americans can't be forced to be incarecerated or forced to take their meds unless they are incarcerated after breaking the law Depotoo ,

Incarcerated? Getting a mental health hold on those that are known to be a danger is next to impossible in this country. In a hospital, not a jail cell, where so many end up.

Our Sheriff calls our local jail the detox center. And it is. When I was in social work, the waiting list for a substance abuse counselor was months long. The wait to become a suboxone patient was months long, as well. I hope that has gotten better, but it isn't likely with all the cuts to mental health funding that have been enacted by the Republicans over the past eight years here. Fortunately, we just did a clean sweep and got them outta here.

 

[depotoo]

They called out mental health specialists to his home in April. He had had previous police encounters displaying his anger issues.

That was the same way the Pulse nightclub shooter entered, btw.

The Pulse shooter was an islamonazi soldier for allah. Not really a domestic situation at all, which was unaffected by domestic laws.

Apparently the Mullahs chose Pulse because they hated America and our freedoms.

I was talking about a metal detector being a solution at bars.

Or how about we actually treat mental illness

-------------------------------------------- go ahead but why is it assumed that this former 'marine' guy was mentally ill ?? The muslim shooter at PULSE or the muslim husband and wife shooting team at 'san berdoo' were not mentally ill were they ??

 

[Asclepias]

Nope. It's more fun to watch you hood rats trying to run and keep your pants from falling down. It's REALLY funny when they bring the dog.

So youd rather have fun instead of stopping white men from killing crowds of innocent people. Figures.

Why is it a big deal? Every weekend in Chicago black dudes shoot more then 11 black dudes every weekend.

2nd Amendment solutions....but why focus only on Chicago?

Lots of scary Black people live there of course.

Oh....is that why they are fixated on Chicago?

Well that and they dont want to become a victim of Black on Black crime.

 

[pismoe]

That is not a police state.
Unless you feel it’s ok for the mentally ill that are a danger, to just do as they please...

We want whatever it takes. Many mentally ill refuse their medications. They should not be allowed to roam the streets, off their meds, if they have ever proven to be a danger to themselves or others.

Or at least let us commit the obvious crazies. Its a mental health crisis, IMO.

Unfortunately, mental healthcare is an "Entitlement", and must never be considered.

Conservatives do not want mental healthcare. They want mental institutions

--------------------------------------------- i think that this is the post i was laughing at Depotoo . See the first of you post where you say that you want WHATEVER IT TAKES and then a bit further as you finish your post as you advocate for a Police State Depotoo .

----------------------------------------------- sure it would be a police state . You can't decide who is mentally ill because YOU think they are mentally ill and then after you or your experts decide on who is mentally ill you would need POLICE to take them into custody and then strap them done and feed them drugs Depotoo .

 

[debbiedowner]

I suspect the shooter is Antifa or an Antifa Wannabe.

- Dressed in black
- Lower part of face covered up
- Targeted Christians
- Heavily tattooed young white man

Maybe already said in posts past this one but he was an ex marine.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

-------------------------------------------- go ahead but why is it assumed that this former 'marine' guy was mentally ill ?? The muslim shooter at PULSE or the muslim husband and wife shooting team at 'san berdoo' were not mentally ill were they ??

Yes, the Pulse shooter had a lot of emotional problems, it was revealed. So did the Parkland kid. Do sane people commit atrocities like this?

 

[depotoo]

Don’t go there, Old Lady. It is a problem, both left and right. Trying to blame one side is ridiculous. I could just as easily state that the lefts policies are responsible, but won’t, because it is a problem with all govt.

Pismoe, why do you find my comment funny?

------------------------------------ because Americans can't be forced to be incarecerated or forced to take their meds unless they are incarcerated after breaking the law Depotoo ,

Incarcerated? Getting a mental health hold on those that are known to be a danger is next to impossible in this country. In a hospital, not a jail cell, where so many end up.

Our Sheriff calls our local jail the detox center. And it is. When I was in social work, the waiting list for a substance abuse counselor was months long. The wait to become a suboxone patient was months long, as well. I hope that has gotten better, but it isn't likely with all the cuts to mental health funding that have been enacted by the Republicans over the past eight years here. Fortunately, we just did a clean sweep and got them outta here.

 

[boedicca]

I suspect the shooter is Antifa or an Antifa Wannabe.

- Dressed in black
- Lower part of face covered up
- Targeted Christians
- Heavily tattooed young white man

Maybe already said in posts past this one but he was an ex marine.

That news broke after I made my post. The new info is that he suffered from PTSD, lived with his mother, and that there was an incident back in April.

 

[depotoo]

Who said I would decide? Your post is simply ridiculous.

That is not a police state.
Unless you feel it’s ok for the mentally ill that are a danger, to just do as they please...

We want whatever it takes. Many mentally ill refuse their medications. They should not be allowed to roam the streets, off their meds, if they have ever proven to be a danger to themselves or others.

Unfortunately, mental healthcare is an "Entitlement", and must never be considered.

Conservatives do not want mental healthcare. They want mental institutions

--------------------------------------------- i think that this is the post i was laughing at Depotoo . See the first of you post where you say that you want WHATEVER IT TAKES and then a bit further as you finish your post as you advocate for a Police State Depotoo .

----------------------------------------------- sure it would be a police state . You can't decide who is mentally ill because YOU think they are mentally ill and then after you or your experts decide on who is mentally ill you would need POLICE to take them into custody and then strap them done and feed them drugs Depotoo .

 

[pismoe]

and you'd even need POLICE to even take the suspected mentally ill into custody as a preventative measure and then to evaluate them Depotoo .

 

[bodecea]

A country bar?

So Republicans were the targets?

Was the gunman a Democrat?

Was this caused by WATERS AND PELOSI?

These are all very relevant questions that we must ask all over the news immediately.

Former Marine with PTSD, it appears to be.

 

[OldLady]

That was the same way the Pulse nightclub shooter entered, btw.

The Pulse shooter was an islamonazi soldier for allah. Not really a domestic situation at all, which was unaffected by domestic laws.

Apparently the Mullahs chose Pulse because they hated America and our freedoms.

I was talking about a metal detector being a solution at bars.

Or how about we actually treat mental illness

You obviously haven't read the thread. That's okay. It was someone else's idea. I am 100% behind the obvious solution of treating mental illness and making it harder for a mentally ill person with homicidal ideation to keep wandering the community unsupervised and untreated, as is his "right."
I feel for veterans who come home torn up psychologically. A lot of people go into the service for the career and educational opportunities they offer, and some just to get a JOB.

 

[Crixus]

Nope. It's more fun to watch you hood rats trying to run and keep your pants from falling down. It's REALLY funny when they bring the dog.

So youd rather have fun instead of stopping white men from killing crowds of innocent people. Figures.

Why is it a big deal? Every weekend in Chicago black dudes shoot more then 11 black dudes every weekend.

2nd Amendment solutions....but why focus only on Chicago?

Lots of scary Black people live there of course.

Oh....is that why they are fixated on Chicago?

Look at you saying black on black violence is no big deal. Typical honky.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Time for the left to vilify to military.

Obama would have already made political hay out of this.

We need to be taking care of African Americans and our Veterans. Not brining in new people to help.

 

[there4eyeM]

That was the same way the Pulse nightclub shooter entered, btw.

The Pulse shooter was an islamonazi soldier for allah. Not really a domestic situation at all, which was unaffected by domestic laws.

Apparently the Mullahs chose Pulse because they hated America and our freedoms.

I was talking about a metal detector being a solution at bars.

Looks as if it better be a 'mental' detector.
Uh, by the way (not addressed to quoted poster), where does the Constitution say anything is a god-given right?
Anyone?

 

[pismoe]

They called out mental health specialists to his home in April. He had had previous police encounters displaying his anger issues.

That was the same way the Pulse nightclub shooter entered, btw.

The Pulse shooter was an islamonazi soldier for allah. Not really a domestic situation at all, which was unaffected by domestic laws.

Apparently the Mullahs chose Pulse because they hated America and our freedoms.

I was talking about a metal detector being a solution at bars.

Or how about we actually treat mental illness

-------------------------------------------- go ahead but why is it assumed that this former 'marine' guy was mentally ill ?? The muslim shooter at PULSE or the muslim husband and wife shooting team at 'san berdoo' were not mentally ill were they ??

------------------------------------------------- lotta good those overvalued so called expert mental health doktors did eh Dpotoo ??

 

[Asclepias]

So youd rather have fun instead of stopping white men from killing crowds of innocent people. Figures.

Why is it a big deal? Every weekend in Chicago black dudes shoot more then 11 black dudes every weekend.

2nd Amendment solutions....but why focus only on Chicago?

Lots of scary Black people live there of course.

Oh....is that why they are fixated on Chicago?

Look at you saying black on black violence is no big deal. Typical honky.

Its not a big deal in this case. This is about a white boy shooting other whites. Your comment is a typical deflection from the OP.

 

[pismoe]

That was the same way the Pulse nightclub shooter entered, btw.

The Pulse shooter was an islamonazi soldier for allah. Not really a domestic situation at all, which was unaffected by domestic laws.

Apparently the Mullahs chose Pulse because they hated America and our freedoms.

I was talking about a metal detector being a solution at bars.

Looks as if it better be a 'mental' detector.
Uh, by the way (not addressed to quoted poster), where does the Constitution say anything is a god-given right?
Anyone?

---------------------------------------------- i think its specific as to What is GOD GIVEN and doesn't say that ANYTHING is a GOD GIVEN RIGHT '4eye' .

 

[depotoo]

and you'd even need POLICE to even take the suspected mentally ill into custody as a preventative measure and then to evaluate them Depotoo .

Yeah, police usually do respond when someone is threatening another. Or do you wish them not to respond? Your argument is once again ridiculous. That is not a police state.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Laws are for the law abiding.

How do Dimms not get this?

Murder is already fucking illegal.

Obama sold guns to Mexican drug cartels that were used against our very own DEA agents.

Guns aren’t going anywhere.