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She was just correcting his version of the facts. He needed correcting.

You mean lack of fact check? Or rather, in haste to save Obama from a rough question and apparently uncomfortable moment, her deceptive statement? The moderator has NO business interjecting ANYTHING like that.

He was just waving her away every so often, I'm sure she just had to tell him he didn't have his facts straight once again. He is a bully and he was quite disrespectful of the president. You might see that at some point today if you can bring yourself to change the channel for 5 minutes.

Fox News is almost as bad as Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck when it comes to factual reporting.

Fail: I don't watch Fox News or listen to Rush & Glen.

I watched the debate on CNN & their timers showed Obama talked 5 minutes longer than Romney. Every time Romney tried to get equal time to make his point the moderator Candice would shut him down. She was defiantly trying to make Romney look bad. Romney had to be assertive & step on her toes because she would have shut him out & let Obama do all the talking.
 
You mean lack of fact check? Or rather, in haste to save Obama from a rough question and apparently uncomfortable moment, her deceptive statement? The moderator has NO business interjecting ANYTHING like that.

Obama didn't need saving. There are recordings of his news conference all over the place. You Republicans are all like Romney, you lie even knowing everyone else already knows the truth.

He did not directly call the Libya attack an act of terror in the Rose garden speech. The video and transcript CLEARLY show he only used the word 'terror' once, in a general statement at the end of the speech.

FAIL.

So you think he should have been more direct about using the term "act of terror" before receiving and reviewing facts? No wonder you liked Bush.
 
No, Romney's other attacks are 'why didn't you heed the ambassadors repeated requests for additional security?' and 'Your own people said in the hearings that budgetary issues had no affect on embassy security in Libya', and 'if you're responsible, then you're responsible for not properly protecting our people and for their deaths.'

Monday Morning Quarterbacking

Like you'd be saying that if the situation were reversed :rolleyes:

Why did Ryan vote against the funding to beef up embassy and consulate security, pissant?
 
Monday Morning Quarterbacking

Like you'd be saying that if the situation were reversed :rolleyes:

Why did Ryan vote against the funding to beef up embassy and consulate security, pissant?

Embassy security was NOT affected by any budgetary concerns or constraints, Dickless, as was specified during the hearings.

As for the cuts you are whining about...
Biden
On the terrorist attacks in Benghazi on the anniversary of 9/11, Biden defended the administration’s failure to protect U.S. diplomatic personnel by pleading ignorance: “We weren’t told they wanted more security again. We did not know they wanted more security again.” In fact, the U.S. security chief in Libya repeatedly asked for additional protection, a fact to which he has testified before Congress. The office of Ambassador Chris Stevens, who was murdered in the attacks, sent a cable specifically detailing concerns about the deteriorating security situation in Benghazi. The embassy put together a memo requesting that its security support team not be withdrawn; both the ambassador and the head of that team argued that its absence would make the functioning of the mission impossible. But the team was nonetheless withdrawn. The administration was told, and told again.

Compounding his mendacity, Biden claimed that Ryan had proposed cuts to embassy security budgets. The proposal in question does not even mention embassy security, only a 19 percent total reduction in nondefense discretionary spending. Nobody ever suggested applying that 19 percent evenly across everything from Sesame Street to diplomatic missions in the Middle East, and Biden knows that.

dumb ass.
 
Obama didn't need saving. There are recordings of his news conference all over the place. You Republicans are all like Romney, you lie even knowing everyone else already knows the truth.

He did not directly call the Libya attack an act of terror in the Rose garden speech. The video and transcript CLEARLY show he only used the word 'terror' once, in a general statement at the end of the speech.

FAIL.

So you think he should have been more direct about using the term "act of terror" before receiving and reviewing facts? No wonder you liked Bush.

So, Obama claims he called it an act of terror in this speech (which he didn't), before receiving and reviewing facts?

You're an idiot... whining about what I supposedly want Obama to say 'before receiving and reviewing facts', and ignoring the fact Obama claims he DID say something before 'receiving and reviewing facts'.

Hypocritical douche.
 
Like you'd be saying that if the situation were reversed :rolleyes:

Why did Ryan vote against the funding to beef up embassy and consulate security, pissant?

Embassy security was NOT affected by any budgetary concerns or constraints, Dickless, as was specified during the hearings.

As for the cuts you are whining about...
Biden
On the terrorist attacks in Benghazi on the anniversary of 9/11, Biden defended the administration’s failure to protect U.S. diplomatic personnel by pleading ignorance: “We weren’t told they wanted more security again. We did not know they wanted more security again.” In fact, the U.S. security chief in Libya repeatedly asked for additional protection, a fact to which he has testified before Congress. The office of Ambassador Chris Stevens, who was murdered in the attacks, sent a cable specifically detailing concerns about the deteriorating security situation in Benghazi. The embassy put together a memo requesting that its security support team not be withdrawn; both the ambassador and the head of that team argued that its absence would make the functioning of the mission impossible. But the team was nonetheless withdrawn. The administration was told, and told again.

Compounding his mendacity, Biden claimed that Ryan had proposed cuts to embassy security budgets. The proposal in question does not even mention embassy security, only a 19 percent total reduction in nondefense discretionary spending. Nobody ever suggested applying that 19 percent evenly across everything from Sesame Street to diplomatic missions in the Middle East, and Biden knows that.

dumb ass.

Hypocricy, wouldn't you say?

Recommending slashing of embassy security funding and then whining about a lack of embassy security

Is Embassy security a priority with Republicans or not?
 
Why did Ryan vote against the funding to beef up embassy and consulate security, pissant?

Embassy security was NOT affected by any budgetary concerns or constraints, Dickless, as was specified during the hearings.

As for the cuts you are whining about...
Biden
On the terrorist attacks in Benghazi on the anniversary of 9/11, Biden defended the administration’s failure to protect U.S. diplomatic personnel by pleading ignorance: “We weren’t told they wanted more security again. We did not know they wanted more security again.” In fact, the U.S. security chief in Libya repeatedly asked for additional protection, a fact to which he has testified before Congress. The office of Ambassador Chris Stevens, who was murdered in the attacks, sent a cable specifically detailing concerns about the deteriorating security situation in Benghazi. The embassy put together a memo requesting that its security support team not be withdrawn; both the ambassador and the head of that team argued that its absence would make the functioning of the mission impossible. But the team was nonetheless withdrawn. The administration was told, and told again.

Compounding his mendacity, Biden claimed that Ryan had proposed cuts to embassy security budgets. The proposal in question does not even mention embassy security, only a 19 percent total reduction in nondefense discretionary spending. Nobody ever suggested applying that 19 percent evenly across everything from Sesame Street to diplomatic missions in the Middle East, and Biden knows that.

dumb ass.

Hypocricy, wouldn't you say?

Recommending slashing of embassy security funding and then whining about a lack of embassy security

Is Embassy security a priority with Republicans or not?

Did you even read what you BOLDED? I put the important part in RED for you. maybe you'll see that.
 
No, Romney's other attacks are 'why didn't you heed the ambassadors repeated requests for additional security?' and 'Your own people said in the hearings that budgetary issues had no affect on embassy security in Libya', and 'if you're responsible, then you're responsible for not properly protecting our people and for their deaths.'

Monday Morning Quarterbacking

Like you'd be saying that if the situation were reversed :rolleyes:

Like most Americans, I gave Bush the benefit of the doubt after 9-11

It is obvious that Republicans would not have done the same
 
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Embassy security was NOT affected by any budgetary concerns or constraints, Dickless, as was specified during the hearings.

As for the cuts you are whining about...
Biden


dumb ass.

Hypocricy, wouldn't you say?

Recommending slashing of embassy security funding and then whining about a lack of embassy security

Is Embassy security a priority with Republicans or not?

Did you even read what you BOLDED? I put the important part in RED for you. maybe you'll see that.

Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'

On Wednesday morning, CNN anchor Soledad O'Brien asked the Utah Republican if he had "voted to cut the funding for embassy security."

"Absolutely," Chaffetz said. "Look we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have…15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, a private army there, for President Obama, in Baghdad. And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces. When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices. You have to prioritize things.”

For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million.
 
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He did not directly call the Libya attack an act of terror in the Rose garden speech. The video and transcript CLEARLY show he only used the word 'terror' once, in a general statement at the end of the speech.

FAIL.

So you think he should have been more direct about using the term "act of terror" before receiving and reviewing facts? No wonder you liked Bush.

So, Obama claims he called it an act of terror in this speech (which he didn't), before receiving and reviewing facts?

You're an idiot... whining about what I supposedly want Obama to say 'before receiving and reviewing facts', and ignoring the fact Obama claims he DID say something before 'receiving and reviewing facts'.

Hypocritical douche.

What a lying little pissant you are. He did say it was an act of terror. It was, regardless whether it was a spontaneous vigilante mob or a directed act of the right wing theocrats of al Qaeda.
 
Like you'd be saying that if the situation were reversed :rolleyes:

Why did Ryan vote against the funding to beef up embassy and consulate security, pissant?

Embassy security was NOT affected by any budgetary concerns or constraints, Dickless, as was specified during the hearings.

As for the cuts you are whining about...
Biden
On the terrorist attacks in Benghazi on the anniversary of 9/11, Biden defended the administration’s failure to protect U.S. diplomatic personnel by pleading ignorance: “We weren’t told they wanted more security again. We did not know they wanted more security again.” In fact, the U.S. security chief in Libya repeatedly asked for additional protection, a fact to which he has testified before Congress. The office of Ambassador Chris Stevens, who was murdered in the attacks, sent a cable specifically detailing concerns about the deteriorating security situation in Benghazi. The embassy put together a memo requesting that its security support team not be withdrawn; both the ambassador and the head of that team argued that its absence would make the functioning of the mission impossible. But the team was nonetheless withdrawn. The administration was told, and told again.

Compounding his mendacity, Biden claimed that Ryan had proposed cuts to embassy security budgets. The proposal in question does not even mention embassy security, only a 19 percent total reduction in nondefense discretionary spending. Nobody ever suggested applying that 19 percent evenly across everything from Sesame Street to diplomatic missions in the Middle East, and Biden knows that.

dumb ass.

Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) says you're a lying little suck ass.

What Ryan didn't mention is the fact that House Republicans cut funding for embassy security, as Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged this week.

"Absolutely," Chaffetz told CNN when asked whether he voted to lower funds. "Look we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have … 15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, a private army there, for President Obama, in Baghdad. And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces. When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices. You have to prioritize things.”

In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million. As the Washington Post noted, for fiscal year 2013, "the GOP-controlled House proposed spending $1.934 billion for the State Department’s Worldwide Security Protection program -- well below the $2.15 billion requested by the Obama administration."
 
Like most Americans, I gave Bush the benefit of the doubt after 9-11

It is obvious that Republicans would not have done the same

I also thought Obama's point about Romney being more socially extreme than Bush was well taken.

True

Bush was not concerned over whether women could get contraceptives

Yeah, I don't believe Romney is that concerned it's just that damn pandering to the teaparty. Nobody ever took them that seriously before, how could real Conservatives let them take over like this.
 

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