2015 hottest year ever, 15 of 16 hottest years since 2001...

[Billy_Bob]

For professional climatologists who publish peer-reviewed pagers, 72 of 75 agree with the statement. As you can judge for yourself, that is about as clear a consensus as can be reached among scientists who are incredibly independent and cautious about agreeing to something so general.

Wow! 72/75, that's almost every scientist in the world!!!

Was Franco stupid before his Mom dropped him on his head?
Maybe we should ask 75 people?

Where'd you get that? Link? Ever heard of polling zzzzzzzzzzz?

I followed your top link. Then I searched for the source of the number from your top link.
Did you think the 97% number the warmers have been touting was based on a large sample? LOL!

No, scientists in general. 99% is climatologists. Stop splitting hairs. Only GOP liars and dupes say different in the entire world.

I know, 97%. 75/77.
Very impressive.
Durr.

Durr, yourself, dumbfuck. Those are 77 publishing scientists in the subject. Scientists with degrees specifically in that subject. And the two that dissent, Singer and Lindzen, both testified in front of Congress that cigarettes were harmless. For a goodly fee. And the same front companies that paid them for the testimony on tobacco pays them for their testimony on global warming. Except Singer is now completely senile. Lindzen, still raking in the dough for whoring his credentials.

Speaking of dumb fucks, Your telling me that only your 77 shills matter and the other 11,867 are just too stupid to be included... Fucking idiot moron!

 

[HappyJoy]

Here's the hard truth the leftist wacko media refuses to tell the public:

news.nationalgeographic.com
Sun Headed Into Hibernation, Solar Studies Predicts

By Victoria Jaggard, National Geographic News
Sunspots may disappear altogether in next cycle.

What a quiet sun looks like: Very few active regions are visible in this 2009 satellite picture.


Image courtesy STEREO/NASA
Enjoy our stormy sun while it lasts. When our star drops out of its latest sunspot activity cycle, the sun is most likely going into hibernation, scientists announced today.
Three independent studies of the sun's insides, surface, and upper atmosphere all predict that the next solar cycle will be significantly delayed—if it happens at all. Normally, the next cycle would be expected to start roughly around 2020.
The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity.
The predicted solar "sleep" is being compared to the last grand minimum on record, which occurred between 1645 and 1715.
Known as the Maunder Minimum, the roughly 70-year period coincided with the coldest spell of the Little Ice Age, when European canals regularly froze solid and Alpine glaciers encroached on mountain villages.
(See "Sun Oddly Quiet—Hints at Next 'Little Ice Age?'")
"We have some interesting hints that solar activity is associated with climate, but we don't understand the association," said Dean Pesnell, project scientist for NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO).
Also, even if there is a climate link, Pesnell doesn't think another grand minimum is likely to trigger a cold snap.
"With what's happening in current times—we've added considerable amounts of carbon dioxide and methane and other greenhouse gases to the atmosphere," said Pesnell, who wasn't involved in the suite of new sun studies.
"I don't think you'd see the same cooling effects today if the sun went into another Maunder Minimum-type behavior."
Sunspots Losing Strength
Sunspots are cool, dark blemishes visible on the sun's surface that indicate regions of intense magnetic activity.
For centuries scientists have been using sunspots—some of which can be wider than Earth—to track the sun's magnetic highs and lows.
(See the sharpest pictures yet of sunspots snapped in visible light.)
For instance, 17th-century astronomers Galileo Galilei and Giovanni Cassini separately tracked sunspots and noticed a lack of activity during the Maunder Minimum.
In the 1800s scientists recognized that sunspots come and go on a regular cycle that lasts about 11 years. We're now in Solar Cycle 24, heading for a maximum in the sun's activity sometime in 2013.
Recently, the National Solar Observatory's Matt Penn and colleagues analyzed more than 13 years of sunspot data collected at the McMath-Pierce Telescope at Kitt Peak, Arizona.
They noticed a long-term trend of sunspot weakening, and if the trend continues, the sun's magnetic field won't be strong enough to produce sunspots during Solar Cycle 25, Penn and colleagues predict.
"The dark spots are getting brighter," Penn said today during a press briefing. Based on their data, the team predicts that, by the time it's over, the current solar cycle will have been "half as strong as Cycle 23, and the next cycle may have no sunspots at all."
(Related: "Sunspot Cycles—Deciphering the Butterfly Pattern.")
Sun's "Jet Streams," Coronal Rush Also Sluggish
Separately, the National Solar Observatory's Frank Hill and colleagues have been monitoring solar cycles via a technique called helioseismology. This method uses surface vibrations caused by acoustic waves inside the star to map interior structure.
Specifically, Hill and colleagues have been tracking buried "jet streams" encircling the sun called torsional oscillations. These bands of flowing material first appear near the sun's poles and migrate toward the equator. The bands are thought to play a role in generating the sun's magnetic field.
(Related: "Sunspot Delay Due to Sluggish Solar 'Jet Stream?'")
Sunspots tend to occur along the pathways of these subsurface bands, and the sun generally becomes more active as the bands near its equator, so they act as good indicators for the timing of solar cycles.
"The torsional oscillation ... pattern for Solar Cycle 24 first appeared in 1997," Hill said today during the press briefing. "That means the flow for Cycle 25 should have appeared in 2008 or 2009, but it has not shown up yet."
According to Hill, their data suggest that the start of Solar Cycle 25 may be delayed until 2022—about two years late—or the cycle may simply not happen.
Adding to the evidence, Richard Altrock, manager of the U.S. Air Force's coronal research program for the National Solar Observatory (NSO), has observed telltale changes in a magnetic phenomenon in the sun's corona—its faint upper atmosphere.
Known as the rush to the poles, the rapid poleward movement of magnetic features in the corona has been linked to an increase in sunspot activity, with a solar cycle hitting its maximum around the time the features reach about 76 degrees latitude north and south of the sun's equator.
The rush to the poles is also linked to the sun "sweeping away" the magnetic field associated with a given solar cycle, making way for a new magnetic field and a new round of sunspot activity.
This time, however, the rush to the poles is more of a crawl, which means we could be headed toward a very weak solar maximum in 2013—and it may delay or even prevent the start of the next solar cycle.
Quiet Sun Exciting for Science
Taken together, the three lines of evidence strongly hint that Solar Cycle 25 may be a bust, the scientists said today during a meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Las Cruces, New Mexico.
But a solar lull is no cause for alarm, NSO's Hill said: "It's happened before, and life seems to go on. I'm not concerned but excited."
In many ways a lack of magnetic activity is a boon for science. Strong solar storms can emit blasts of charged particles that interfere with radio communications, disrupt power grids, and can even put excess drag on orbiting satellites.
"Drag is important for people like me at NASA," SDO's Pesnell said, "because we like to keep our satellites in space."
What's more, a decrease in sunspots doesn't necessarily mean a drop in other solar features such as prominences, which can produce aurora-triggering coronal mass ejections. In fact, records show that auroras continued to appear on a regular basis even during the Maunder Minimum, Pesnell said.
(See "Solar Flare Sparks Biggest Eruption Ever Seen on Sun.")
Instead, he said, the unusual changes to the sun's activity cycles offer an unprecedented opportunity for scientists to test theories about how the sun makes and destroys its magnetic field.
"Right now we have so many sun-watching satellites and advanced ground-based observatories ready to spring into action," Pesnell said. "If the sun is going to do something different, this is a great time for it to happen."

© 1996-2016 National Geographic Society.

Your link says global warming is a problem.

You guys are just pranking, right? People can't be this fucking stupid.

On the sun... Global warming is a problem.... your a fucking idiot..

This article says nothing about global warming not being a problem.

The article also says nothing about unicorns not being real either. LOL.

However, it does very clearly say that the Sun will be going through an extended period of inactivity which can even lead to a mini ice age.

Low sun activity = lower temperatures on earth and Solar System in general.

Get it? I bet not.

What the moron doesn't get, the sun just might be going cold for about 90,000 years..

View attachment 60860
IF you measure the average width in time of the previous four glacial periods, were in deep trouble and right on time for the end of our current interglaical.

Looks like that chart is saying there is a strong relationship to temperature and co2 levels. What's that red line practically shooting off the chart saying?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We have seen several articles recently about global warming countering the next mini-ice age. I think the GHGs will win.

Excellent! The only thing worse than retreating glaciers are advancing glaciers.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

For professional climatologists who publish peer-reviewed pagers, 72 of 75 agree with the statement. As you can judge for yourself, that is about as clear a consensus as can be reached among scientists who are incredibly independent and cautious about agreeing to something so general.

Wow! 72/75, that's almost every scientist in the world!!!

Was Franco stupid before his Mom dropped him on his head?
Maybe we should ask 75 people?

Where'd you get that? Link? Ever heard of polling zzzzzzzzzzz?

I followed your top link. Then I searched for the source of the number from your top link.
Did you think the 97% number the warmers have been touting was based on a large sample? LOL!

No, scientists in general. 99% is climatologists. Stop splitting hairs. Only GOP liars and dupes say different in the entire world.

I know, 97%. 75/77.
Very impressive.
Durr.

Durr, yourself, dumbfuck. Those are 77 publishing scientists in the subject. Scientists with degrees specifically in that subject. And the two that dissent, Singer and Lindzen, both testified in front of Congress that cigarettes were harmless. For a goodly fee. And the same front companies that paid them for the testimony on tobacco pays them for their testimony on global warming. Except Singer is now completely senile. Lindzen, still raking in the dough for whoring his credentials.

Those are 77 publishing scientists in the subject.

You are mistaken.

And the same front companies that paid them for the testimony on tobacco pays them for their testimony on global warming.

Who got paid for their testimony on Alar? That still makes me laugh.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Your link says global warming is a problem.

You guys are just pranking, right? People can't be this fucking stupid.

On the sun... Global warming is a problem.... your a fucking idiot..

This article says nothing about global warming not being a problem.

The article also says nothing about unicorns not being real either. LOL.

However, it does very clearly say that the Sun will be going through an extended period of inactivity which can even lead to a mini ice age.

Low sun activity = lower temperatures on earth and Solar System in general.

Get it? I bet not.

What the moron doesn't get, the sun just might be going cold for about 90,000 years..

View attachment 60860
IF you measure the average width in time of the previous four glacial periods, were in deep trouble and right on time for the end of our current interglaical.

Looks like that chart is saying there is a strong relationship to temperature and co2 levels. What's that red line practically shooting off the chart saying?

It's saying, we should release more, because ice ages really suck.

 

[skookerasbil]

Just to kinda make a perfect illustration about how much information like this is mattering in the real world and outside the nether-regions of the intanets.............

In football terms, of course, given this glorious football weekend >>>



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[HappyJoy]

On the sun... Global warming is a problem.... your a fucking idiot..

This article says nothing about global warming not being a problem.

The article also says nothing about unicorns not being real either. LOL.

However, it does very clearly say that the Sun will be going through an extended period of inactivity which can even lead to a mini ice age.

Low sun activity = lower temperatures on earth and Solar System in general.

Get it? I bet not.

What the moron doesn't get, the sun just might be going cold for about 90,000 years..

View attachment 60860
IF you measure the average width in time of the previous four glacial periods, were in deep trouble and right on time for the end of our current interglaical.

Looks like that chart is saying there is a strong relationship to temperature and co2 levels. What's that red line practically shooting off the chart saying?

It's saying, we should release more, because ice ages really suck.

Actually, it's saying no such thing. If you look at the chart we are in very, very new territory. Ice ages won't be a problem, nor would they have been for thousands of years.

 

[Vigilante]

• How NOAA used fuzzy math to make 2015 the ‘hottest year on record’
  
  Blasting News ^ | Jan 23, 2016 | Mark R. Whittington
  Recently, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency (NOAA) announced that 2015 had the hottest global average temperature ever measured, shattering the previous record held in 2014. The news was widely reported in the media, including the New York Times, which declared that global warming, which had paused since 1998, is back and with a vengeance. The clear implication was that the sooner we stop using fossil fuels and putting all that carbon dioxide in the air, the better

 

[skookerasbil]

• How NOAA used fuzzy math to make 2015 the ‘hottest year on record’
  
  Blasting News ^ | Jan 23, 2016 | Mark R. Whittington
  Recently, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency (NOAA) announced that 2015 had the hottest global average temperature ever measured, shattering the previous record held in 2014. The news was widely reported in the media, including the New York Times, which declared that global warming, which had paused since 1998, is back and with a vengeance. The clear implication was that the sooner we stop using fossil fuels and putting all that carbon dioxide in the air, the better

yep.....fuzzy math is ghey. They know it too.............. Look up the word "deception" in Wikipedia and you see a pic of a progressive!! Just total fraud fuckery all the time with these people.

 

[IanC]

Your link says global warming is a problem.

You guys are just pranking, right? People can't be this fucking stupid.

On the sun... Global warming is a problem.... your a fucking idiot..

This article says nothing about global warming not being a problem.

The article also says nothing about unicorns not being real either. LOL.

However, it does very clearly say that the Sun will be going through an extended period of inactivity which can even lead to a mini ice age.

Low sun activity = lower temperatures on earth and Solar System in general.

Get it? I bet not.

What the moron doesn't get, the sun just might be going cold for about 90,000 years..

View attachment 60860
IF you measure the average width in time of the previous four glacial periods, were in deep trouble and right on time for the end of our current interglaical.

Looks like that chart is saying there is a strong relationship to temperature and co2 levels. What's that red line practically shooting off the chart saying?

You make a good point, that I have also made in the past. While natural CO2 levels are tied to temperature with CO2 rising after temperature increase, there much less reason to believe that the same relationship holds true today because we are the ones artificially raising CO2.

It is unexplored territory.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Your link says global warming is a problem.

You guys are just pranking, right? People can't be this fucking stupid.

On the sun... Global warming is a problem.... your a fucking idiot..

This article says nothing about global warming not being a problem.

The article also says nothing about unicorns not being real either. LOL.

However, it does very clearly say that the Sun will be going through an extended period of inactivity which can even lead to a mini ice age.

Low sun activity = lower temperatures on earth and Solar System in general.

Get it? I bet not.

What the moron doesn't get, the sun just might be going cold for about 90,000 years..

View attachment 60860
IF you measure the average width in time of the previous four glacial periods, were in deep trouble and right on time for the end of our current interglaical.

Looks like that chart is saying there is a strong relationship to temperature and co2 levels. What's that red line practically shooting off the chart saying?

CO2 lags by 200 years... it drives nothing moron

 

[HappyJoy]

On the sun... Global warming is a problem.... your a fucking idiot..

This article says nothing about global warming not being a problem.

The article also says nothing about unicorns not being real either. LOL.

However, it does very clearly say that the Sun will be going through an extended period of inactivity which can even lead to a mini ice age.

Low sun activity = lower temperatures on earth and Solar System in general.

Get it? I bet not.

What the moron doesn't get, the sun just might be going cold for about 90,000 years..

View attachment 60860
IF you measure the average width in time of the previous four glacial periods, were in deep trouble and right on time for the end of our current interglaical.

Looks like that chart is saying there is a strong relationship to temperature and co2 levels. What's that red line practically shooting off the chart saying?

CO2 lags by 200 years... it drives nothing moron

Find a source to prove that. In the mean time, we're off the charts.

 

[Billy_Bob]

On the sun... Global warming is a problem.... your a fucking idiot..

This article says nothing about global warming not being a problem.

The article also says nothing about unicorns not being real either. LOL.

However, it does very clearly say that the Sun will be going through an extended period of inactivity which can even lead to a mini ice age.

Low sun activity = lower temperatures on earth and Solar System in general.

Get it? I bet not.

What the moron doesn't get, the sun just might be going cold for about 90,000 years..

View attachment 60860
IF you measure the average width in time of the previous four glacial periods, were in deep trouble and right on time for the end of our current interglaical.

Looks like that chart is saying there is a strong relationship to temperature and co2 levels. What's that red line practically shooting off the chart saying?

You make a good point, that I have also made in the past. While natural CO2 levels are tied to temperature with CO2 rising after temperature increase, there much less reason to believe that the same relationship holds true today because we are the ones artificially raising CO2.

It is unexplored territory.

IF the end point was properly averaged there would be no spike at all. Spatial resolution changes, like Mann does on the end of records to insinuate some man induced crap, is pure fantasy when place in proper context. Our current swings have been seen before without man in high resolution proxies.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

This article says nothing about global warming not being a problem.

The article also says nothing about unicorns not being real either. LOL.

However, it does very clearly say that the Sun will be going through an extended period of inactivity which can even lead to a mini ice age.

Low sun activity = lower temperatures on earth and Solar System in general.

Get it? I bet not.

What the moron doesn't get, the sun just might be going cold for about 90,000 years..

View attachment 60860
IF you measure the average width in time of the previous four glacial periods, were in deep trouble and right on time for the end of our current interglaical.

Looks like that chart is saying there is a strong relationship to temperature and co2 levels. What's that red line practically shooting off the chart saying?

It's saying, we should release more, because ice ages really suck.

Actually, it's saying no such thing. If you look at the chart we are in very, very new territory. Ice ages won't be a problem, nor would they have been for thousands of years.

Ice ages won't be a problem, nor would they have been for thousands of years.

Cool! You have a link to the "Next Ice Age Countdown Clock"?

 

[HappyJoy]

This article says nothing about global warming not being a problem.

The article also says nothing about unicorns not being real either. LOL.

However, it does very clearly say that the Sun will be going through an extended period of inactivity which can even lead to a mini ice age.

Low sun activity = lower temperatures on earth and Solar System in general.

Get it? I bet not.

What the moron doesn't get, the sun just might be going cold for about 90,000 years..

View attachment 60860
IF you measure the average width in time of the previous four glacial periods, were in deep trouble and right on time for the end of our current interglaical.

Looks like that chart is saying there is a strong relationship to temperature and co2 levels. What's that red line practically shooting off the chart saying?

You make a good point, that I have also made in the past. While natural CO2 levels are tied to temperature with CO2 rising after temperature increase, there much less reason to believe that the same relationship holds true today because we are the ones artificially raising CO2.

It is unexplored territory.

IF the end point was properly averaged there would be no spike at all. Spatial resolution changes, like Mann does on the end of records to insinuate some man induced crap, is pure fantasy when place in proper context. Our current swings have been seen before without man in high resolution proxies.

FYI, the chart you provided, that group of people, they believe in manmade climate change due to increased level of co2 and other green house gases.

 

[Billy_Bob]

This article says nothing about global warming not being a problem.

The article also says nothing about unicorns not being real either. LOL.

However, it does very clearly say that the Sun will be going through an extended period of inactivity which can even lead to a mini ice age.

Low sun activity = lower temperatures on earth and Solar System in general.

Get it? I bet not.

What the moron doesn't get, the sun just might be going cold for about 90,000 years..

View attachment 60860
IF you measure the average width in time of the previous four glacial periods, were in deep trouble and right on time for the end of our current interglaical.

Looks like that chart is saying there is a strong relationship to temperature and co2 levels. What's that red line practically shooting off the chart saying?

CO2 lags by 200 years... it drives nothing moron

Find a source to prove that. In the mean time, we're off the charts.

But by 2003 new data came in and it was clear that carbon lagged behind temperature. The link was back to front. Temperatures appear to control carbon, and while it’s possible that carbon also influences temperature these ice cores don’t show much evidence of that. After temperatures rise, on average it takes 800 years before carbon starts to move.

Widely held by the scientific community...

Source

 

[IanC]

This article says nothing about global warming not being a problem.

The article also says nothing about unicorns not being real either. LOL.

However, it does very clearly say that the Sun will be going through an extended period of inactivity which can even lead to a mini ice age.

Low sun activity = lower temperatures on earth and Solar System in general.

Get it? I bet not.

What the moron doesn't get, the sun just might be going cold for about 90,000 years..

View attachment 60860
IF you measure the average width in time of the previous four glacial periods, were in deep trouble and right on time for the end of our current interglaical.

Looks like that chart is saying there is a strong relationship to temperature and co2 levels. What's that red line practically shooting off the chart saying?

You make a good point, that I have also made in the past. While natural CO2 levels are tied to temperature with CO2 rising after temperature increase, there much less reason to believe that the same relationship holds true today because we are the ones artificially raising CO2.

It is unexplored territory.

IF the end point was properly averaged there would be no spike at all. Spatial resolution changes, like Mann does on the end of records to insinuate some man induced crap, is pure fantasy when place in proper context. Our current swings have been seen before without man in high resolution proxies.

I think you are insane if you believe that mankind's use of fossil fuels hasn't affected the concentration of CO2 in the air.

 

[HappyJoy]

From your source:

The complicated nature of past climate has lead some people to suggest that changing levels of greenhouse gases have only a small effect on temperature, especially when compared with other causes of temperature change. To test whether this is so, it is important to know whether a rapid increase in greenhouse gases, such as is now occurring, can actually cause significant climate change. Two events in the past suggest that this is, indeed, the case.
KT Boundary (65 million years ago)
The KT Boundary is the name given to the a thin geological layer that marks the impact of a gigantic meteorite – the same meteorite that caused the extinction of the dinosaurs. In the short term, this meteorite caused great clouds of dust that obscured the sun. However, it also released huge amounts of CO2 by vaporising carbonate-rich rocks. This lead to a massive increase in the greenhouse effect, as described in this BBC News article and, for more detail, the scientific paper (Beerling et al, 2002).
Late Palaeocene Thermal Maximum (LPTM, 55 million years ago)
Scientists have long known that there was a short, but dramatic period of warming at the end of the Palaeocene era. This is now believed to have resulted from several massive releases of methane from the sea floor, probably as a result of continental drift, but possibly as a result of volcanic activity. For more information, see Earth 's ancient heat wave gives a taste of things to come, this NASA story and the paper by Bains et al, Science 1999. The changes in sea surface temperatures fit well with predictions from climate models, according to research published in 2003. Although there are several similarities to today's warming, one major difference is the timescale: the release of methane took place over a period of several thousand years. There was no mass extinction, probably because plants had sufficient time to 'migrate' northwards to more hospitable climates.

 

[Billy_Bob]

The article also says nothing about unicorns not being real either. LOL.

However, it does very clearly say that the Sun will be going through an extended period of inactivity which can even lead to a mini ice age.

Low sun activity = lower temperatures on earth and Solar System in general.

Get it? I bet not.

What the moron doesn't get, the sun just might be going cold for about 90,000 years..

View attachment 60860
IF you measure the average width in time of the previous four glacial periods, were in deep trouble and right on time for the end of our current interglaical.

Looks like that chart is saying there is a strong relationship to temperature and co2 levels. What's that red line practically shooting off the chart saying?

You make a good point, that I have also made in the past. While natural CO2 levels are tied to temperature with CO2 rising after temperature increase, there much less reason to believe that the same relationship holds true today because we are the ones artificially raising CO2.

It is unexplored territory.

IF the end point was properly averaged there would be no spike at all. Spatial resolution changes, like Mann does on the end of records to insinuate some man induced crap, is pure fantasy when place in proper context. Our current swings have been seen before without man in high resolution proxies.

I think you are insane if you believe that mankind's use of fossil fuels hasn't affected the concentration of CO2 in the air.

There is most certainly an effect... its how much and what it actually does in our atmosphere that I question, for good reason.

 

[IanC]

The article also says nothing about unicorns not being real either. LOL.

However, it does very clearly say that the Sun will be going through an extended period of inactivity which can even lead to a mini ice age.

Low sun activity = lower temperatures on earth and Solar System in general.

Get it? I bet not.

What the moron doesn't get, the sun just might be going cold for about 90,000 years..

View attachment 60860
IF you measure the average width in time of the previous four glacial periods, were in deep trouble and right on time for the end of our current interglaical.

Looks like that chart is saying there is a strong relationship to temperature and co2 levels. What's that red line practically shooting off the chart saying?

You make a good point, that I have also made in the past. While natural CO2 levels are tied to temperature with CO2 rising after temperature increase, there much less reason to believe that the same relationship holds true today because we are the ones artificially raising CO2.

It is unexplored territory.

IF the end point was properly averaged there would be no spike at all. Spatial resolution changes, like Mann does on the end of records to insinuate some man induced crap, is pure fantasy when place in proper context. Our current swings have been seen before without man in high resolution proxies.

I think you are insane if you believe that mankind's use of fossil fuels hasn't affected the concentration of CO2 in the air.

But don't forget that 1/3 of all CO2 emissions have happened in the last two decades, a time of little to no temperature increase.