2016 Arctic sea ice thread

[Old Rocks]

I'll take the word of the people that work in the field of sea ice.

Canadian Scientists that disagree do not count? Now that is objective Science, simply ignore Scientific fact you disagree with. Sorry Matthew, but the Arctic melt was not early, Arctic ice is not at record lows, and Ocean Currents did break up the ice.

Even Mattpews favorite link confirms what the Canadian Scientists report.

Greenland Ice Sheet Today | Surface Melt Data presented by NSIDC

Arctic sea ice has passed its annual maximum extent and is beginning its seasonal decline through the spring and summer. While total extent was not at record low

Ice fracturing continued north of Alaska, and the Arctic Oscillation was in a strongly negative phase during the second half of the month, with unusually high sea level pressure over almost all of the Arctic Ocean.

Arctic sea ice extent in March 2013 averaged 15.04 million square kilometers (5.81 million square miles).
610,000 square kilometers (236,000 square miles) above the record low for the month, which happened in 2006

Early start to Greenland Ice Sheet melt season
April 21, 2016


For six days in early April, unusual weather patterns produced an early season melt event on the Greenland Ice Sheet, covering up to 10 percent of its surface area. Such an event is unusual but not unprecedented; the record surface melt season of 2012 began in a similar manner. Local meteorological records were set in southwestern Greenland towns and at several ice sheet weather stations.

Greenland Ice Sheet Today | Surface Melt Data presented by NSIDC

The site you linked to concerns Greenland, not the Arctic Sea Ice.

 

[Old Rocks]

From your post, Ms. Elektra;

Arctic sea ice has passed its annual maximum extent and is beginning its seasonal decline through the spring and summer. While total extent was not at record low

Ice fracturing continued north of Alaska, and the Arctic Oscillation was in a strongly negative phase during the second half of the month, with unusually high sea level pressure over almost all of the Arctic Ocean.

Arctic sea ice extent in March 2013 averaged 15.04 million square kilometers (5.81 million square miles).
610,000 square kilometers (236,000 square miles) above the record low for the month, which happened in 2006

Perhaps you have not noticed, but it is at present 2016.

 

[elektra]

The site you linked to concerns Greenland, not the Arctic Sea Ice.

No shit, idiot, What do you think you see in all those pictures you post, or anyone else posts, it is called Greenland you moron, which is in the Arctic Circle, and in which has Arctic Ice!

 

[Old Rocks]

Dear little miss Elektra. Look carefully at the title of the thread. "2016 Arctic sea ice thread". Now I know this is very difficult for you to comprehend, but ice on land is not sea ice. And the ice on Greenland is on land. And no one but you has ever referred to it as Arctic sea ice. LOL

 

[elektra]

Dear little miss Elektra. Look carefully at the title of the thread. "2016 Arctic sea ice thread". Now I know this is very difficult for you to comprehend, but ice on land is not sea ice. And the ice on Greenland is on land. And no one but you has ever referred to it as Arctic sea ice. LOL

Not as easy as pie, my post was in reference to sea ice, the Beaufort sea, you are the idiot simply trolling and everyone sees you for that. You made the claim that Greenland has nothing to do with the Arctic, I pointed out you are the idiot old crock.

Those who don't quote are filthy liars, crock!

 

[ScienceRocks]

Satellite imagine of the sea ice. Northern Alaska and Canada open water. Within the next month a lot more of that ice is going to be gone.

This confirms the accuracy of the daily map!

 

[elektra]

From your post, Ms. Elektra;

Arctic sea ice has passed its annual maximum extent and is beginning its seasonal decline through the spring and summer. While total extent was not at record low

Ice fracturing continued north of Alaska, and the Arctic Oscillation was in a strongly negative phase during the second half of the month, with unusually high sea level pressure over almost all of the Arctic Ocean.

Arctic sea ice extent in March 2013 averaged 15.04 million square kilometers (5.81 million square miles).
610,000 square kilometers (236,000 square miles) above the record low for the month, which happened in 2006

Perhaps you have not noticed, but it is at present 2016.

And it also says 2006! In the article, you suppose the article is maybe actually from 2006 or do you need to read the words and not just look at the numbers to understand what the article is stating.

Go troll old crock.

And as usual, you lose, every single time, crock

 

[Crick]

Daily sea ice extent updates resume with provisional data
May 6, 2016


NSIDC has obtained data from the DMSP F-18 satellite and is in the process of intercalibrating the F-18 data with F-17 data. Intercalibration addresses differences between the series of sensors, in order to provide a long-term, consistent sea ice record. While this work continues, we are displaying the uncalibrated F-18 data in the daily extent image. The daily time series graph shows F-17 data through March 31, and F-18 data from April 1 forward. Initial evaluation of the uncalibrated F-18 data indicates reasonable agreement with F-17, but the data should be considered provisional and quantitative comparisons with other data should not be done at this time.

Because these are provisional data, the Sea Ice Index has not been updated and continues to display only F-17 data through March 31. We expect to make the F-18 data available in Charctic soon.

For general information on the intercalibration of sensors, see the documentation for Sea Ice Concentrations from Nimbus-7 SMMR and DMSP SSM/I-SSMIS Passive Microwave Data. This documentation will be updated when the intercalibration to F-18 is complete.

 

[Old Rocks]

Satellite imagine of the sea ice. Northern Alaska and Canada open water. Within the next month a lot more of that ice is going to be gone.

This confirms the accuracy of the daily map!

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The amount of broken ice is also quite impressive for this time of year.

 

[elektra]

The amount of broken ice is also quite impressive for this time of year.

Sure, the argument has gone from, "all the ice is gone", to "The amount of broken ice is also quite impressive for this time of year."

Damn, that ice may not be gone, but it sure is broken!

 

[elektra]

The amount of broken ice is also quite impressive for this time of year.

The broken ice has nothing to do with Global Warming

Beaufort Sea fractured ice due to strong Beaufort Gyre action – not early melt

The caption for the NASA video says this (my bold):

“MODIS Terra imagery taken between April 4 and May 3, 2016 of the Beaufort Sea. The animation highlights the gradual ice breakup due to the Beaufort gyre.”

So, early breakup here is due to Beaufort Gyre action – not early seasonal melt.

 

[Crick]

You've just told us that "those who don't quote are filthy liars". You've just quoted someone as having said "all the ice is gone". Who would that have been?

 

[elektra]

You've just told us that "those who don't quote are filthy liars". You've just quoted someone as having said "all the ice is gone". Who would that have been?

Quote, so I know which post you are referring to, otherwise you are a filthy liar, as Old Crock states.

 

[Crick]

You've just told us that "those who don't quote are filthy liars". You've just quoted someone as having said "all the ice is gone". Who would that have been?

Quote, so I know which post you are referring to, otherwise you are a filthy liar, as Old Crock states.

You are a reeking piece of shit, aren't you.

 

[elektra]

Quote, so I know which post you are referring to, otherwise you are a filthy liar, as Old Crock states.

You are a reeking piece of shit, aren't you.

Quote, is that so hard, I quote your posts, you can quote mine, otherwise, you are as Old Crock states, a filthy liar.

 

[Crick]

Here you go.

Those who don't quote are filthy liars, crock!

Sure, the argument has gone from, "all the ice is gone", to "The amount of broken ice is also quite impressive for this time of year."

Damn, that ice may not be gone, but it sure is broken!

So, who said "all the ice is gone"?

 

[Old Rocks]

Nobody said the ice was gone. What is being observed is less ice than we have ever seen at this time of year. And much of the ice that is still there is broken up, which means that it is more easily melted. That this has to be explained to you is indicative of your lack of intellect.

 

[ScienceRocks]

IJIS:

10,704,953 km2（May 25, 2016）

 

[SSDD]

There seems to be a discrepancy between the claims of lost ice and the actual lost ice...

This is the claim...

This is the reality...

The visual of the ice lost and gained doesn't seem to support the claimed loss.

 

[jc456]

IJIS:

10,704,953 km2（May 25, 2016）

you do know that sunlight is now hitting the arctic right? Are you suggesting that during full sunshine that ice doesn't melt in the arctic? hahaahhahahaahahhahahaha s0n go learn about climate and season and axis and sunlight. wow.