3 men charged with federal hate crimes in killing of Ahmaud Arbery in Georgia

[Superbadbrutha]

I think the main thing we can learn from this is that, if you have a construction site near a certain demographic makeup, you need to either hire security or have a secure fence around it. Otherwise, "joggers" may decide to borrow a few things.

I think too much attention is being given to the trespassing aspect of this case....though it is what got the McMicharls involved as in Gregory McMichals a former policeman and investigator had been deputized to handle such problems in the neighborhood since he lived there and stuff had been stolen from his son's truck.

The critical part of this case to me and though I have never practiced law(I did go to Law School in Atlanta) is the way Ahmaud Arbary brazenly attacked Travis McMichael even though he was holding a shotgun.

Some ask would anyone sane do such a thing?

Well we could all conjecture about that...but it is on record that Ahmaud had mental problems and a persecution complex which can be seen in the various videos of his previous encounters with the police.....the enhanced glorious photo of ahmaud circulated by the media does not show the real Amaud....a convicted thief.

This much is certain -- if Ahmaud was white, we'd never have heard of him, and no one would care that he got shot.

The story just has the right racial optics to manipulate the masses.

No if Ahmaud were white they would have never bothered him in the first place, notice that they didn't chase any of the white trespassers on the property. Why is that?

They chased Ahmaud for 2 reasons....Gregory McMichales got a call that there was a trespasser in the housr being built whilst he was out in front yard working on his boat and immediately after the call he sees Ahmaud hauling ass down the street...he recognized him from the security cam video and had dealt with him back when he was a cop and thus knew of his criminal history.....that is why they grabbed their guns.

Thus that is why you are full of shit. Did Gregory McMichaels witness Ahmaud committing a crime?

When did he see security cam video of him and who did he receive it from?

So in a split instance he remembered him from years ago, only a fool would buy that weak ass defense.

unlike low I.Q. Africans whites usually have good memories.

All the material on the security cams has been documented and some of them posted on here that showed Ahmaud wandering around the house in the middle of the night looking like he was in a trance......very bizzare....probably doped up or maybe that is the way people with mental issues look. BTW none of them show him drinking water.

I have heard it said some negroes like to go on white peoples property and masturbate.....dont know if that is true....did you ever do anything like that?

Jimi Hendrix the famous black guitarist was kicked out of the Army for masturbating in public.

Funny how you never mention the white folks on those security cameras that were trespassing, why is that Green Hornet? If they are white it is not trespassing, right? What was the white couple doing on his property after dark?

hehheh I don't know what any of them were doing including ahmaud....I never said I did....all we can do regarding that is to speculate.

Yet stuff had been stolen and Ahmaud was a thief and had served time for it......thieves rarely change their spots.

The white folks are unknown and have nothing to do with the case under discussion as far as I know....thus they are irrelevant to this discussion. duh

The homeowner said nothing had been stolen, so where are you coming up with stuff being stolen from? When did Ahmaud serve time? Post that for us all please.

The white folks are unknown because the racist didn't care to confront any of them.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

I sincerely hope that they are able to get a conviction and that people's eyes are finally open to what's been happening all around them, even if they were unable of it.​

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3 men charged with federal hate crimes in killing of Ahmaud Arbery in Georgia​

April 28, 2021, 2:32 PM PDT / Updated April 28, 2021, 4:08 PM PDT​

By Tim Fitzsimons​

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Three Georgia men previously charged in the killing of Ahmaud Arbery were indicted Wednesday by a federal grand jury and charged with hate crimes and attempted kidnapping.​

Ahmaud Arbery. Courtesy of Family

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Arbery was jogging in Brunswick, Georgia, when Travis McMichael, 35, and his father, Gregory McMichael, 65, pursued him in their truck and shot him dead on Feb. 23, 2020.​

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William "Roddie" Bryan, 51, who was driving behind them in a separate truck, filmed the shooting.​

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Later, Gregory McMichael, a retired police officer, leaked the video because he wanted "the public to know the truth," his attorney said in 2020.​

The Department of Justice alleged on Wednesday that the men confronted Arbery "because of his race."​

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The incident sparked outrage and spurred an international movement to draw attention to racism against Black runners, NBC News reported.​

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Travis and Gregory were also each charged with "carrying, and brandishing—and in Travis’s case, discharging—a firearm during and in relation to a crime of violence," the DOJ said in a press release.​

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Gregory and Travis, father and son, were previously each charged with murder in May 2020 for the death of Arbery.​

​

So now it’s a “hate crime” to confront thieves in your neighborhood. It’s a “hate crime” to defend yourself when they attack you and try to take your gun away.

If these men were police, they would had been 100% justified in shooting him. And there is no reason a citizen can’t make a citizens arrest when catching a criminal in the act.

We’ve seen the video evidence, we know he was guilty.

Oh good. We are starting this again. Ok. What crime was Arbury committing at the time the McMichaels chased him, confronted him, and killed him?

They saw him trespassing on that property. They also recognized him from before, he had been in the neighborhood and stole shit out of cars before.

He attacked the man with the shotgun, tried to take it from him, got blasted.

Nobody ever saw him stealing anything. There is no video of him stealing from the construction site. I repeat. What crime did he commit on the day?

Assault which is the essential element of this case.

Actually no. You might wish it was. But the reason for the pursuit is the root of the case. The McMichaels maintain they were trying to effect a citizens arrest. Since no crime took place that means the pursuit and effort to detain Arbury was criminal.

In Georgia when criminals pursue you we have stand your ground. It means Arbury’s actions under law were defensive. It also means the McMichaels committed murder.

No.....the Senior McMicharls had been designated as the go to guy for the problems with burglaries and trespassing in that neighborhood as he was a former policeman and investigator.

Chasing someone is not a crime......trying to talk to someone is not a crime....telling someone to stop is not an arrest....you remain coinfused.

I am actually thrilled that you are not their lawyer. Because if you were the appeal about your incompetence during the trial would guarantee them another one. This way they have a competent defense. One with a low probability of success. But a chance.

McMichaels claimed it on the day during interviews with police. His lawyer asked Dial the GBI investigator about it on the hearing I posted in this thread.

But you being right is not about truth or facts. It is about your short attention span and ignorance. You won’t read the links. You won’t watch the videos. I could post more but you have not read one yet.

The McMichaels are almost certainly going to be convicted. If convicted they will get 20 to life in prison. For Daddy that is life. Roddy might get out as an old man. Travis will never leave Prison alive.

Honestly the one with the best chance to avoid prison is Roddy. And his chances are not good. Say ten percent. The Jury might buy his argument that he was trying to help neighbors who he thought were in the right. Maybe. As I said. One chance in ten.

You of course being ignorant of the law, the facts, or anything will blame it on Liberals and all that.

You let your bias delude you.....your understanding of law is thus compromised.

Well a Defense attorney says so.

Another attorney. He says no too.



Odd isn’t it. All the actual legal people seem to be who I am quoting and you are quoting. Yourself and other right wing radicals. Not actual lawyers. You know. Who know the law. And make their living with the law. Ah. What do they know.

I repeat. I am happy the McMichaels are not represented by you. Your understanding of the law would get them the death penalty.

I wish he was representing them.

I love the Constitution so much I want them to have a competent and vigorous defense. Even though I believe they are murdering idiots I want every conviction no matter who the defendant is to be hard won. I want every defendant to have the best defense possible.

You said you watched the video of Ahmaud getting kilt........could you give us your take on it?

Are you black?

Oh For Fucks Sake.

Yes I saw the video. And as I already said the video showed them doing everything I was told not to do.

I started to read. News articles. Reports of court filings. I watched the hearing. I gathered information. And you know what? My initial impression was confirmed by the charges handed down by the Grand Jury. The blithering idiots did everything they were not supposed to do.

As more of the story and sequence of events came down it was confirmed. Then I spent some time considering why these two morons would do this?

Part of my training in the Army was to estimate what people would do. Enemy soldiers, but people. My Sergeants taught me and they stressed that people react according to their nature. You go with what you know. And what you believe.

It clicked. My estimation about what happened. When it was reported that they used derogatory words to describe Arbury online and in discussions with Roddy. I would guess that they felt about Blacks as you do. Generally speaking.

My Father and Mother worked with people from every imaginable background. During parties and such there were always what would be called Minorities around. I never heard my parents speak ill of a race. I was taught to treat every adult as someone important. Yes sir. No sir. All that sort of thing.

I had black, brown, and white friends growing up. My Confirmation Sponsor is a Hispanic man who is a first generation American. I hold him in the greatest esteem. A finer man I have rarely made the acquaintance of.

My focus is always the truth. And the first truth is that anyone who claims to be able to judge a people based upon skin color is a fool. Anyone who claims science backs up such nonsense is heir to the throne of the kingdom of fools.

You see a Black Man. I see a man. You see a race of criminals. I see people. You claim an advantage of IQ. I doubt you are smarter than most minorities. I doubt you are as smart as most to be honest.

It is said that you should be careful of what you hate. You become that which you hate. You become it.

I don’t hate you or any one. I would avoid associating myself with you as your outlook is intolerably offensive to good sense and logic.

And my IQ is 135. I maxed out several sections of the ASVAB and qualified for Nuclear Power if I had joined the Navy instead of the Army.

Color does not matter. And using another’s hate to justify your own is childish and petty. I was taught better than that.

All of that and you still could not properly analyze a video that was not complicated at all....BTW regarding racial slurs...few living people that have never done that and blacks moreso than anyone.......you claim not to be biased yet it definitely appears you are biased against whites......lot of yankees in Georgia now....especially from New Yawk....I say that to say this......you sound like either a black or a Damn Yankee.

But you could just be the product of a public school indoctrination.....very sad.

The video shows clearly two people waiting to do some harm to a man running. The man is being pursued by another unknown number of thugs.

no they were waiting for the police....Gregory standing in the back of the truck was on the phone wid 911 the precise moment ahmaud jogged up and attacked Travis.....whereupon he threw down his phone and pulled our his pistol...but Travis needed no help.

The man in the truck (1 man) was recording ahmaud on his cell phone......he was just a neighbor who saw something going on and decided to film it like a lot of folks do these days.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I have looked extensively and I can't find any source of information at all that might suggest that he was "jogging" as so dutifully reported.

Liar. No you haven't.

I found this.
View attachment 485026

But I was asking about evidence that he was actually jogging. YOu gonna help, or just going to continue to be a dick?

Where did you find that? Why not post the link?

Dipshit pissed me off so I aint posting links. Google it.
View attachment 485033

You didn't post a link, because it's a lie coming from a lying POS.

Everybody who thinks differently from you all are liars. And the name calling. Got it. Your Google works the same as mine. I even gave you a picture.

So no one has any evidence that he was actually jogging.

What part of they have EVIDENCE that these 3 racist hillbillies murdered the man. He wasn't on any of the 3's property, he did not approach any of them, non of them were LE, so they had no business bothering that young man at all.

I didn't ask anything about that. I keep seeing these news reports about him out jogging and the word jogging keeps appearing. Just wanted to know if anyone else besides his mom thought he was jogging.

and the word jogging

Is absolutely irrelevant to any salient point.
The play of a supremacist moron. Nothing more.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

I think the main thing we can learn from this is that, if you have a construction site near a certain demographic makeup, you need to either hire security or have a secure fence around it. Otherwise, "joggers" may decide to borrow a few things.

I think too much attention is being given to the trespassing aspect of this case....though it is what got the McMicharls involved as in Gregory McMichals a former policeman and investigator had been deputized to handle such problems in the neighborhood since he lived there and stuff had been stolen from his son's truck.

The critical part of this case to me and though I have never practiced law(I did go to Law School in Atlanta) is the way Ahmaud Arbary brazenly attacked Travis McMichael even though he was holding a shotgun.

Some ask would anyone sane do such a thing?

Well we could all conjecture about that...but it is on record that Ahmaud had mental problems and a persecution complex which can be seen in the various videos of his previous encounters with the police.....the enhanced glorious photo of ahmaud circulated by the media does not show the real Amaud....a convicted thief.

This much is certain -- if Ahmaud was white, we'd never have heard of him, and no one would care that he got shot.

The story just has the right racial optics to manipulate the masses.

No if Ahmaud were white they would have never bothered him in the first place, notice that they didn't chase any of the white trespassers on the property. Why is that?

They chased Ahmaud for 2 reasons....Gregory McMichales got a call that there was a trespasser in the housr being built whilst he was out in front yard working on his boat and immediately after the call he sees Ahmaud hauling ass down the street...he recognized him from the security cam video and had dealt with him back when he was a cop and thus knew of his criminal history.....that is why they grabbed their guns.

Thus that is why you are full of shit. Did Gregory McMichaels witness Ahmaud committing a crime?

When did he see security cam video of him and who did he receive it from?

So in a split instance he remembered him from years ago, only a fool would buy that weak ass defense.

unlike low I.Q. Africans whites usually have good memories.

All the material on the security cams has been documented and some of them posted on here that showed Ahmaud wandering around the house in the middle of the night looking like he was in a trance......very bizzare....probably doped up or maybe that is the way people with mental issues look. BTW none of them show him drinking water.

I have heard it said some negroes like to go on white peoples property and masturbate.....dont know if that is true....did you ever do anything like that?

Jimi Hendrix the famous black guitarist was kicked out of the Army for masturbating in public.

Funny how you never mention the white folks on those security cameras that were trespassing, why is that Green Hornet? If they are white it is not trespassing, right? What was the white couple doing on his property after dark?

hehheh I don't know what any of them were doing including ahmaud....I never said I did....all we can do regarding that is to speculate.

Yet stuff had been stolen and Ahmaud was a thief and had served time for it......thieves rarely change their spots.

The white folks are unknown and have nothing to do with the case under discussion as far as I know....thus they are irrelevant to this discussion. duh

The homeowner said nothing had been stolen, so where are you coming up with stuff being stolen from? When did Ahmaud serve time? Post that for us all please.

The white folks are unknown because the racist didn't care to confront any of them.

He only said that after all the publicity kicked in....which he wanted no part of ....can hardly blame him for that.....why do you think he installed cameras....why do you think the police dept. deputized Gregory to handle all the complaints?????

You can look it up ....it has been posted....I am not going back over ploughed ground....ahmaud was sentenced to 5 yrs.

While you are at it research his mental history....which probably had a lot of influence regarding the bad decisions he made that day and look at the videos of other confrontations he had with police....he was very aggressive and beligerent....they tried to taze him but it malfunctioned. He is a prime example of why so many young blacks get shot by the police.....they will not listen and they have no respect for the police.

The MacMichaels were never notified about white people being on the property under question....either they had some reason to be there or no one noticed them....Ahmaud had been there several times but was noticed only once....that is when Grergory got the call to check it out.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Why in the hell would he be jogging?

Hurr, dunno, cant figure out why people jog, herpaderp

Hurr, dunno, cant figure out why people jog, herpaderp

In his mind. To be more fair than he deserves.
Animals don’t jog.

His calculus doesn’t account for the subject to be human. In any way.

 

[John T. Ford]

Political prisoners??? Are you kidding me. So you ass clowns think they can murder a black man and it is supposed to be just swept under the rug because they CLAIM he was committing a crime. Hate to tell your pasty, white, racist ass this but those days are coming to an end.

Dude ...

You are so far dimissed from reality ......

 

[TheGreenHornet]

What crime did he commit on the day?

Trespassing.

Ok. You understand that under Georgia Law he wasn’t actually trespassing. The police could not have arrested him for that. For that the owner or a designated representative would have to have told him to leave.

Further. The McMichaels had no authority to enforce that. So now according to you the attempt to arrest Arbury was criminal and they are murderers.

There was no attempt to arrest Ahmaud....you are a liar and you keep repeating the lie.

The McMichaels say they were. Are they lying too? Their lawyers say that the citizens arrest law is the centerpiece of their defense. Are the defense attorneys lying too?

Georgia to Weaken Citizen’s Arrest Law Cited in Ahmaud Arbery’s Death (Published 2021)

The governor supports a bill passed on Wednesday that repeals language allowing people to arrest someone who they witnessed committing a crime.

www.nytimes.com

I posted that before. Shame you didn’t read it.

The McMichaels said that when they headed out..they intended to make a citizens arrest....but no attempt to arrest was made.

The new law is not applicable to the McMicharls as it was enacted after the incident and their arrest....it is just another example of how this nation is being torn apart by wokeness.

I have no idea what the defense team is doing.

Rocker Johnny Rotten: 'Wokeness' Pushed by 'Children Coming Out of Colleges With Sh*t for Brains'

Sex Pistols frontman Johnny Rotten says "wokeness" is a divisive political weapon being wielded by privileged, "tempestuous, spoilt children," whom the media offer a platform to push their unpopular politically correct opinions.

www.breitbart.com

What crime did they see him commit?

If it was known he committed a crime they would have arrested him....but since he was just a person of interest.....they followed him and caled 911

No they chased him and murdered him, I know you have to put the racist spin to it.

Have you ever known a black man to be guilty of anything?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

I think the main thing we can learn from this is that, if you have a construction site near a certain demographic makeup, you need to either hire security or have a secure fence around it. Otherwise, "joggers" may decide to borrow a few things.

I think too much attention is being given to the trespassing aspect of this case....though it is what got the McMicharls involved as in Gregory McMichals a former policeman and investigator had been deputized to handle such problems in the neighborhood since he lived there and stuff had been stolen from his son's truck.

The critical part of this case to me and though I have never practiced law(I did go to Law School in Atlanta) is the way Ahmaud Arbary brazenly attacked Travis McMichael even though he was holding a shotgun.

Some ask would anyone sane do such a thing?

Well we could all conjecture about that...but it is on record that Ahmaud had mental problems and a persecution complex which can be seen in the various videos of his previous encounters with the police.....the enhanced glorious photo of ahmaud circulated by the media does not show the real Amaud....a convicted thief.

This much is certain -- if Ahmaud was white, we'd never have heard of him, and no one would care that he got shot.

The story just has the right racial optics to manipulate the masses.

No if Ahmaud were white they would have never bothered him in the first place, notice that they didn't chase any of the white trespassers on the property. Why is that?

They chased Ahmaud for 2 reasons....Gregory McMichales got a call that there was a trespasser in the housr being built whilst he was out in front yard working on his boat and immediately after the call he sees Ahmaud hauling ass down the street...he recognized him from the security cam video and had dealt with him back when he was a cop and thus knew of his criminal history.....that is why they grabbed their guns.

Thus that is why you are full of shit. Did Gregory McMichaels witness Ahmaud committing a crime?

When did he see security cam video of him and who did he receive it from?

So in a split instance he remembered him from years ago, only a fool would buy that weak ass defense.

unlike low I.Q. Africans whites usually have good memories.

All the material on the security cams has been documented and some of them posted on here that showed Ahmaud wandering around the house in the middle of the night looking like he was in a trance......very bizzare....probably doped up or maybe that is the way people with mental issues look. BTW none of them show him drinking water.

I have heard it said some negroes like to go on white peoples property and masturbate.....dont know if that is true....did you ever do anything like that?

Jimi Hendrix the famous black guitarist was kicked out of the Army for masturbating in public.

Funny how you never mention the white folks on those security cameras that were trespassing, why is that Green Hornet? If they are white it is not trespassing, right? What was the white couple doing on his property after dark?

hehheh I don't know what any of them were doing including ahmaud....I never said I did....all we can do regarding that is to speculate.

Yet stuff had been stolen and Ahmaud was a thief and had served time for it......thieves rarely change their spots.

The white folks are unknown and have nothing to do with the case under discussion as far as I know....thus they are irrelevant to this discussion. duh

The homeowner said nothing had been stolen, so where are you coming up with stuff being stolen from? When did Ahmaud serve time? Post that for us all please.

The white folks are unknown because the racist didn't care to confront any of them.

He only said that after all the publicity kicked in....which he wanted no part of ....can hardly blame him for that.....why do you think he installed cameras....why do you think the police dept. deputized Gregory to handle all the complaints?????

You can look it up ....it has been posted....I am not going back over ploughed ground....ahmaud was sentenced to 5 yrs.

While you are at it research his mental history....which probably had a lot of influence regarding the bad decisions he made that day and look at the videos of other confrontations he had with police....he was very aggressive and beligerent....they tried to taze him but it malfunctioned. He is a prime example of why so many young blacks get shot by the police.....they will not listen and they have no respect for the police.

The MacMichaels were never notified about white people being on the property under question....either they had some reason to be there or no one noticed them....Ahmaud had been there several times but was noticed only once....that is when Grergory got the call to check it out.

I have been on top of this case since Day 1, You are posting nothing but garbage, McMichaels wasn't deputized that is a lie and you can't show where Arbery did 5yrs.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

What crime did he commit on the day?

Trespassing.

Ok. You understand that under Georgia Law he wasn’t actually trespassing. The police could not have arrested him for that. For that the owner or a designated representative would have to have told him to leave.

Further. The McMichaels had no authority to enforce that. So now according to you the attempt to arrest Arbury was criminal and they are murderers.

There was no attempt to arrest Ahmaud....you are a liar and you keep repeating the lie.

The McMichaels say they were. Are they lying too? Their lawyers say that the citizens arrest law is the centerpiece of their defense. Are the defense attorneys lying too?

Georgia to Weaken Citizen’s Arrest Law Cited in Ahmaud Arbery’s Death (Published 2021)

The governor supports a bill passed on Wednesday that repeals language allowing people to arrest someone who they witnessed committing a crime.

www.nytimes.com

I posted that before. Shame you didn’t read it.

The McMichaels said that when they headed out..they intended to make a citizens arrest....but no attempt to arrest was made.

The new law is not applicable to the McMicharls as it was enacted after the incident and their arrest....it is just another example of how this nation is being torn apart by wokeness.

I have no idea what the defense team is doing.

Rocker Johnny Rotten: 'Wokeness' Pushed by 'Children Coming Out of Colleges With Sh*t for Brains'

Sex Pistols frontman Johnny Rotten says "wokeness" is a divisive political weapon being wielded by privileged, "tempestuous, spoilt children," whom the media offer a platform to push their unpopular politically correct opinions.

www.breitbart.com

What crime did they see him commit?

If it was known he committed a crime they would have arrested him....but since he was just a person of interest.....they followed him and caled 911

No they chased him and murdered him, I know you have to put the racist spin to it.

Have you ever known a black man to be guilty of anything?

Known some to be, have you ever known a white racist to be guilty of anything other than being a racist.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

I think the main thing we can learn from this is that, if you have a construction site near a certain demographic makeup, you need to either hire security or have a secure fence around it. Otherwise, "joggers" may decide to borrow a few things.

I think too much attention is being given to the trespassing aspect of this case....though it is what got the McMicharls involved as in Gregory McMichals a former policeman and investigator had been deputized to handle such problems in the neighborhood since he lived there and stuff had been stolen from his son's truck.

The critical part of this case to me and though I have never practiced law(I did go to Law School in Atlanta) is the way Ahmaud Arbary brazenly attacked Travis McMichael even though he was holding a shotgun.

Some ask would anyone sane do such a thing?

Well we could all conjecture about that...but it is on record that Ahmaud had mental problems and a persecution complex which can be seen in the various videos of his previous encounters with the police.....the enhanced glorious photo of ahmaud circulated by the media does not show the real Amaud....a convicted thief.

This much is certain -- if Ahmaud was white, we'd never have heard of him, and no one would care that he got shot.

The story just has the right racial optics to manipulate the masses.

No if Ahmaud were white they would have never bothered him in the first place, notice that they didn't chase any of the white trespassers on the property. Why is that?

They chased Ahmaud for 2 reasons....Gregory McMichales got a call that there was a trespasser in the housr being built whilst he was out in front yard working on his boat and immediately after the call he sees Ahmaud hauling ass down the street...he recognized him from the security cam video and had dealt with him back when he was a cop and thus knew of his criminal history.....that is why they grabbed their guns.

Thus that is why you are full of shit. Did Gregory McMichaels witness Ahmaud committing a crime?

When did he see security cam video of him and who did he receive it from?

So in a split instance he remembered him from years ago, only a fool would buy that weak ass defense.

unlike low I.Q. Africans whites usually have good memories.

All the material on the security cams has been documented and some of them posted on here that showed Ahmaud wandering around the house in the middle of the night looking like he was in a trance......very bizzare....probably doped up or maybe that is the way people with mental issues look. BTW none of them show him drinking water.

I have heard it said some negroes like to go on white peoples property and masturbate.....dont know if that is true....did you ever do anything like that?

Jimi Hendrix the famous black guitarist was kicked out of the Army for masturbating in public.

Funny how you never mention the white folks on those security cameras that were trespassing, why is that Green Hornet? If they are white it is not trespassing, right? What was the white couple doing on his property after dark?

hehheh I don't know what any of them were doing including ahmaud....I never said I did....all we can do regarding that is to speculate.

Yet stuff had been stolen and Ahmaud was a thief and had served time for it......thieves rarely change their spots.

The white folks are unknown and have nothing to do with the case under discussion as far as I know....thus they are irrelevant to this discussion. duh

The homeowner said nothing had been stolen, so where are you coming up with stuff being stolen from? When did Ahmaud serve time? Post that for us all please.

The white folks are unknown because the racist didn't care to confront any of them.

He only said that after all the publicity kicked in....which he wanted no part of ....can hardly blame him for that.....why do you think he installed cameras....why do you think the police dept. deputized Gregory to handle all the complaints?????

You can look it up ....it has been posted....I am not going back over ploughed ground....ahmaud was sentenced to 5 yrs.

While you are at it research his mental history....which probably had a lot of influence regarding the bad decisions he made that day and look at the videos of other confrontations he had with police....he was very aggressive and beligerent....they tried to taze him but it malfunctioned. He is a prime example of why so many young blacks get shot by the police.....they will not listen and they have no respect for the police.

The MacMichaels were never notified about white people being on the property under question....either they had some reason to be there or no one noticed them....Ahmaud had been there several times but was noticed only once....that is when Grergory got the call to check it out.

I have been on top of this case since Day 1, You are posting nothing but garbage, McMichaels wasn't deputized that is a lie and you can't show where Arbery did 5yrs.

It has been posted....I am sitting here chit chatting with Jack Daniels and not in a mood to do research.

I did not say Ahmaud did 5 yrs.

What is it with you and the English language.....would ebonics work better foe you?

Whut I say bro dat da man wuz SENTENCED to 5yrs. he plead guilty....which means he got a plea deal and most likely did not actually serve much time if any....dat why dese young young black males all have long rap sheets whilst running the streets all hours of the night committing more crimes.....get real you know it better than me boyo.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

What crime did he commit on the day?

Trespassing.

Ok. You understand that under Georgia Law he wasn’t actually trespassing. The police could not have arrested him for that. For that the owner or a designated representative would have to have told him to leave.

Further. The McMichaels had no authority to enforce that. So now according to you the attempt to arrest Arbury was criminal and they are murderers.

There was no attempt to arrest Ahmaud....you are a liar and you keep repeating the lie.

The McMichaels say they were. Are they lying too? Their lawyers say that the citizens arrest law is the centerpiece of their defense. Are the defense attorneys lying too?

Georgia to Weaken Citizen’s Arrest Law Cited in Ahmaud Arbery’s Death (Published 2021)

The governor supports a bill passed on Wednesday that repeals language allowing people to arrest someone who they witnessed committing a crime.

www.nytimes.com

I posted that before. Shame you didn’t read it.

The McMichaels said that when they headed out..they intended to make a citizens arrest....but no attempt to arrest was made.

The new law is not applicable to the McMicharls as it was enacted after the incident and their arrest....it is just another example of how this nation is being torn apart by wokeness.

I have no idea what the defense team is doing.

Rocker Johnny Rotten: 'Wokeness' Pushed by 'Children Coming Out of Colleges With Sh*t for Brains'

Sex Pistols frontman Johnny Rotten says "wokeness" is a divisive political weapon being wielded by privileged, "tempestuous, spoilt children," whom the media offer a platform to push their unpopular politically correct opinions.

www.breitbart.com

What crime did they see him commit?

If it was known he committed a crime they would have arrested him....but since he was just a person of interest.....they followed him and caled 911

No they chased him and murdered him, I know you have to put the racist spin to it.

Have you ever known a black man to be guilty of anything?

Known some to be, have you ever known a white racist to be guilty of anything other than being a racist.

Nothing wrong with racism per se.

"Racism" Saves Lives! "Racism" is Love!

Anti-Racism kills, "Racism" is Love

4racism.org

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Why in the hell would he be jogging?

Hurr, dunno, cant figure out why people jog, herpaderp

Hurr, dunno, cant figure out why people jog, herpaderp

In his mind. To be more fair than he deserves.
Animals don’t jog.

His calculus doesn’t account for the subject to be human. In any way.

I saw a negro jogging once.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

What crime did he commit on the day?

Trespassing.

Ok. You understand that under Georgia Law he wasn’t actually trespassing. The police could not have arrested him for that. For that the owner or a designated representative would have to have told him to leave.

Further. The McMichaels had no authority to enforce that. So now according to you the attempt to arrest Arbury was criminal and they are murderers.

There was no attempt to arrest Ahmaud....you are a liar and you keep repeating the lie.

The McMichaels say they were. Are they lying too? Their lawyers say that the citizens arrest law is the centerpiece of their defense. Are the defense attorneys lying too?

Georgia to Weaken Citizen’s Arrest Law Cited in Ahmaud Arbery’s Death (Published 2021)

The governor supports a bill passed on Wednesday that repeals language allowing people to arrest someone who they witnessed committing a crime.

www.nytimes.com

I posted that before. Shame you didn’t read it.

The McMichaels said that when they headed out..they intended to make a citizens arrest....but no attempt to arrest was made.

The new law is not applicable to the McMicharls as it was enacted after the incident and their arrest....it is just another example of how this nation is being torn apart by wokeness.

I have no idea what the defense team is doing.

Rocker Johnny Rotten: 'Wokeness' Pushed by 'Children Coming Out of Colleges With Sh*t for Brains'

Sex Pistols frontman Johnny Rotten says "wokeness" is a divisive political weapon being wielded by privileged, "tempestuous, spoilt children," whom the media offer a platform to push their unpopular politically correct opinions.

www.breitbart.com

What crime did they see him commit?

If it was known he committed a crime they would have arrested him....but since he was just a person of interest.....they followed him and caled 911

No they chased him and murdered him, I know you have to put the racist spin to it.

Have you ever known a black man to be guilty of anything?

Known some to be, have you ever known a white racist to be guilty of anything other than being a racist.

I will have to take the 5th on dat....i have known some bad mudda ruckers but none worse than me ----but I have never served any time or been convicted of anything.

Let my clarify that....I am just speaking in philosophical terms if yo git mah drift NigNog

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Why in the hell would he be jogging?

Hurr, dunno, cant figure out why people jog, herpaderp

Hurr, dunno, cant figure out why people jog, herpaderp

In his mind. To be more fair than he deserves.
Animals don’t jog.

His calculus doesn’t account for the subject to be human. In any way.

I saw a negro jogging once.

I saw a negro jogging once.

I bet you saw an opportunity as well. I also bet you were a pussy and did nothing. Your white brothers hate you for that.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I think the main thing we can learn from this is that, if you have a construction site near a certain demographic makeup, you need to either hire security or have a secure fence around it. Otherwise, "joggers" may decide to borrow a few things.

I think too much attention is being given to the trespassing aspect of this case....though it is what got the McMicharls involved as in Gregory McMichals a former policeman and investigator had been deputized to handle such problems in the neighborhood since he lived there and stuff had been stolen from his son's truck.

The critical part of this case to me and though I have never practiced law(I did go to Law School in Atlanta) is the way Ahmaud Arbary brazenly attacked Travis McMichael even though he was holding a shotgun.

Some ask would anyone sane do such a thing?

Well we could all conjecture about that...but it is on record that Ahmaud had mental problems and a persecution complex which can be seen in the various videos of his previous encounters with the police.....the enhanced glorious photo of ahmaud circulated by the media does not show the real Amaud....a convicted thief.

This much is certain -- if Ahmaud was white, we'd never have heard of him, and no one would care that he got shot.

The story just has the right racial optics to manipulate the masses.

No if Ahmaud were white they would have never bothered him in the first place, notice that they didn't chase any of the white trespassers on the property. Why is that?

They chased Ahmaud for 2 reasons....Gregory McMichales got a call that there was a trespasser in the housr being built whilst he was out in front yard working on his boat and immediately after the call he sees Ahmaud hauling ass down the street...he recognized him from the security cam video and had dealt with him back when he was a cop and thus knew of his criminal history.....that is why they grabbed their guns.

Thus that is why you are full of shit. Did Gregory McMichaels witness Ahmaud committing a crime?

When did he see security cam video of him and who did he receive it from?

So in a split instance he remembered him from years ago, only a fool would buy that weak ass defense.

unlike low I.Q. Africans whites usually have good memories.

All the material on the security cams has been documented and some of them posted on here that showed Ahmaud wandering around the house in the middle of the night looking like he was in a trance......very bizzare....probably doped up or maybe that is the way people with mental issues look. BTW none of them show him drinking water.

I have heard it said some negroes like to go on white peoples property and masturbate.....dont know if that is true....did you ever do anything like that?

Jimi Hendrix the famous black guitarist was kicked out of the Army for masturbating in public.

Funny how you never mention the white folks on those security cameras that were trespassing, why is that Green Hornet? If they are white it is not trespassing, right? What was the white couple doing on his property after dark?

hehheh I don't know what any of them were doing including ahmaud....I never said I did....all we can do regarding that is to speculate.

Yet stuff had been stolen and Ahmaud was a thief and had served time for it......thieves rarely change their spots.

The white folks are unknown and have nothing to do with the case under discussion as far as I know....thus they are irrelevant to this discussion. duh

The homeowner said nothing had been stolen, so where are you coming up with stuff being stolen from? When did Ahmaud serve time? Post that for us all please.

The white folks are unknown because the racist didn't care to confront any of them.

He only said that after all the publicity kicked in....which he wanted no part of ....can hardly blame him for that.....why do you think he installed cameras....why do you think the police dept. deputized Gregory to handle all the complaints?????

You can look it up ....it has been posted....I am not going back over ploughed ground....ahmaud was sentenced to 5 yrs.

While you are at it research his mental history....which probably had a lot of influence regarding the bad decisions he made that day and look at the videos of other confrontations he had with police....he was very aggressive and beligerent....they tried to taze him but it malfunctioned. He is a prime example of why so many young blacks get shot by the police.....they will not listen and they have no respect for the police.

The MacMichaels were never notified about white people being on the property under question....either they had some reason to be there or no one noticed them....Ahmaud had been there several times but was noticed only once....that is when Grergory got the call to check it out.

I have been on top of this case since Day 1, You are posting nothing but garbage, McMichaels wasn't deputized that is a lie and you can't show where Arbery did 5yrs.

It has been posted....I am sitting here chit chatting with Jack Daniels and not in a mood to do research.

I did not say Ahmaud did 5 yrs.

What is it with you and the English language.....would ebonics work better foe you?

Whut I say bro dat da man wuz SENTENCED to 5yrs. he plead guilty....which means he got a plea deal and most likely did not actually serve much time if any....dat why dese young young black males all have long rap sheets whilst running the streets all hours of the night committing more crimes.....get real you know it better than me boyo.

I am sitting here chit chatting with Jack Daniels and not in a mood to do research.

Riiiiiight!
Internet mush mouth is so much more your style.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

I think the main thing we can learn from this is that, if you have a construction site near a certain demographic makeup, you need to either hire security or have a secure fence around it. Otherwise, "joggers" may decide to borrow a few things.

I think too much attention is being given to the trespassing aspect of this case....though it is what got the McMicharls involved as in Gregory McMichals a former policeman and investigator had been deputized to handle such problems in the neighborhood since he lived there and stuff had been stolen from his son's truck.

The critical part of this case to me and though I have never practiced law(I did go to Law School in Atlanta) is the way Ahmaud Arbary brazenly attacked Travis McMichael even though he was holding a shotgun.

Some ask would anyone sane do such a thing?

Well we could all conjecture about that...but it is on record that Ahmaud had mental problems and a persecution complex which can be seen in the various videos of his previous encounters with the police.....the enhanced glorious photo of ahmaud circulated by the media does not show the real Amaud....a convicted thief.

This much is certain -- if Ahmaud was white, we'd never have heard of him, and no one would care that he got shot.

The story just has the right racial optics to manipulate the masses.

No if Ahmaud were white they would have never bothered him in the first place, notice that they didn't chase any of the white trespassers on the property. Why is that?

They chased Ahmaud for 2 reasons....Gregory McMichales got a call that there was a trespasser in the housr being built whilst he was out in front yard working on his boat and immediately after the call he sees Ahmaud hauling ass down the street...he recognized him from the security cam video and had dealt with him back when he was a cop and thus knew of his criminal history.....that is why they grabbed their guns.

Thus that is why you are full of shit. Did Gregory McMichaels witness Ahmaud committing a crime?

When did he see security cam video of him and who did he receive it from?

So in a split instance he remembered him from years ago, only a fool would buy that weak ass defense.

unlike low I.Q. Africans whites usually have good memories.

All the material on the security cams has been documented and some of them posted on here that showed Ahmaud wandering around the house in the middle of the night looking like he was in a trance......very bizzare....probably doped up or maybe that is the way people with mental issues look. BTW none of them show him drinking water.

I have heard it said some negroes like to go on white peoples property and masturbate.....dont know if that is true....did you ever do anything like that?

Jimi Hendrix the famous black guitarist was kicked out of the Army for masturbating in public.

Funny how you never mention the white folks on those security cameras that were trespassing, why is that Green Hornet? If they are white it is not trespassing, right? What was the white couple doing on his property after dark?

hehheh I don't know what any of them were doing including ahmaud....I never said I did....all we can do regarding that is to speculate.

Yet stuff had been stolen and Ahmaud was a thief and had served time for it......thieves rarely change their spots.

The white folks are unknown and have nothing to do with the case under discussion as far as I know....thus they are irrelevant to this discussion. duh

The homeowner said nothing had been stolen, so where are you coming up with stuff being stolen from? When did Ahmaud serve time? Post that for us all please.

The white folks are unknown because the racist didn't care to confront any of them.

He only said that after all the publicity kicked in....which he wanted no part of ....can hardly blame him for that.....why do you think he installed cameras....why do you think the police dept. deputized Gregory to handle all the complaints?????

You can look it up ....it has been posted....I am not going back over ploughed ground....ahmaud was sentenced to 5 yrs.

While you are at it research his mental history....which probably had a lot of influence regarding the bad decisions he made that day and look at the videos of other confrontations he had with police....he was very aggressive and beligerent....they tried to taze him but it malfunctioned. He is a prime example of why so many young blacks get shot by the police.....they will not listen and they have no respect for the police.

The MacMichaels were never notified about white people being on the property under question....either they had some reason to be there or no one noticed them....Ahmaud had been there several times but was noticed only once....that is when Grergory got the call to check it out.

I have been on top of this case since Day 1, You are posting nothing but garbage, McMichaels wasn't deputized that is a lie and you can't show where Arbery did 5yrs.

It has been posted....I am sitting here chit chatting with Jack Daniels and not in a mood to do research.

I did not say Ahmaud did 5 yrs.

What is it with you and the English language.....would ebonics work better foe you?

Whut I say bro dat da man wuz SENTENCED to 5yrs. he plead guilty....which means he got a plea deal and most likely did not actually serve much time if any....dat why dese young young black males all have long rap sheets whilst running the streets all hours of the night committing more crimes.....get real you know it better than me boyo.

I am sitting here chit chatting with Jack Daniels and not in a mood to do research.

Riiiiiight!
Internet mush mouth is so much more your style.

Kiddo you should have moe respect for your elders......kids just aint brought right dese days.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I think the main thing we can learn from this is that, if you have a construction site near a certain demographic makeup, you need to either hire security or have a secure fence around it. Otherwise, "joggers" may decide to borrow a few things.

I think too much attention is being given to the trespassing aspect of this case....though it is what got the McMicharls involved as in Gregory McMichals a former policeman and investigator had been deputized to handle such problems in the neighborhood since he lived there and stuff had been stolen from his son's truck.

The critical part of this case to me and though I have never practiced law(I did go to Law School in Atlanta) is the way Ahmaud Arbary brazenly attacked Travis McMichael even though he was holding a shotgun.

Some ask would anyone sane do such a thing?

Well we could all conjecture about that...but it is on record that Ahmaud had mental problems and a persecution complex which can be seen in the various videos of his previous encounters with the police.....the enhanced glorious photo of ahmaud circulated by the media does not show the real Amaud....a convicted thief.

This much is certain -- if Ahmaud was white, we'd never have heard of him, and no one would care that he got shot.

The story just has the right racial optics to manipulate the masses.

No if Ahmaud were white they would have never bothered him in the first place, notice that they didn't chase any of the white trespassers on the property. Why is that?

They chased Ahmaud for 2 reasons....Gregory McMichales got a call that there was a trespasser in the housr being built whilst he was out in front yard working on his boat and immediately after the call he sees Ahmaud hauling ass down the street...he recognized him from the security cam video and had dealt with him back when he was a cop and thus knew of his criminal history.....that is why they grabbed their guns.

Thus that is why you are full of shit. Did Gregory McMichaels witness Ahmaud committing a crime?

When did he see security cam video of him and who did he receive it from?

So in a split instance he remembered him from years ago, only a fool would buy that weak ass defense.

unlike low I.Q. Africans whites usually have good memories.

All the material on the security cams has been documented and some of them posted on here that showed Ahmaud wandering around the house in the middle of the night looking like he was in a trance......very bizzare....probably doped up or maybe that is the way people with mental issues look. BTW none of them show him drinking water.

I have heard it said some negroes like to go on white peoples property and masturbate.....dont know if that is true....did you ever do anything like that?

Jimi Hendrix the famous black guitarist was kicked out of the Army for masturbating in public.

Funny how you never mention the white folks on those security cameras that were trespassing, why is that Green Hornet? If they are white it is not trespassing, right? What was the white couple doing on his property after dark?

hehheh I don't know what any of them were doing including ahmaud....I never said I did....all we can do regarding that is to speculate.

Yet stuff had been stolen and Ahmaud was a thief and had served time for it......thieves rarely change their spots.

The white folks are unknown and have nothing to do with the case under discussion as far as I know....thus they are irrelevant to this discussion. duh

The homeowner said nothing had been stolen, so where are you coming up with stuff being stolen from? When did Ahmaud serve time? Post that for us all please.

The white folks are unknown because the racist didn't care to confront any of them.

He only said that after all the publicity kicked in....which he wanted no part of ....can hardly blame him for that.....why do you think he installed cameras....why do you think the police dept. deputized Gregory to handle all the complaints?????

You can look it up ....it has been posted....I am not going back over ploughed ground....ahmaud was sentenced to 5 yrs.

While you are at it research his mental history....which probably had a lot of influence regarding the bad decisions he made that day and look at the videos of other confrontations he had with police....he was very aggressive and beligerent....they tried to taze him but it malfunctioned. He is a prime example of why so many young blacks get shot by the police.....they will not listen and they have no respect for the police.

The MacMichaels were never notified about white people being on the property under question....either they had some reason to be there or no one noticed them....Ahmaud had been there several times but was noticed only once....that is when Grergory got the call to check it out.

I have been on top of this case since Day 1, You are posting nothing but garbage, McMichaels wasn't deputized that is a lie and you can't show where Arbery did 5yrs.

It has been posted....I am sitting here chit chatting with Jack Daniels and not in a mood to do research.

I did not say Ahmaud did 5 yrs.

What is it with you and the English language.....would ebonics work better foe you?

Whut I say bro dat da man wuz SENTENCED to 5yrs. he plead guilty....which means he got a plea deal and most likely did not actually serve much time if any....dat why dese young young black males all have long rap sheets whilst running the streets all hours of the night committing more crimes.....get real you know it better than me boyo.

I am sitting here chit chatting with Jack Daniels and not in a mood to do research.

Riiiiiight!
Internet mush mouth is so much more your style.

Kiddo you should have moe respect for your elders......kids just aint brought right dese days.

Kiddo you should have moe respect for your elders......kids just aint brought right dese days

You should have more respect for yourself.

 

[SavannahMann]

I sincerely hope that they are able to get a conviction and that people's eyes are finally open to what's been happening all around them, even if they were unable of it.​

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3 men charged with federal hate crimes in killing of Ahmaud Arbery in Georgia​

April 28, 2021, 2:32 PM PDT / Updated April 28, 2021, 4:08 PM PDT​

By Tim Fitzsimons​

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Three Georgia men previously charged in the killing of Ahmaud Arbery were indicted Wednesday by a federal grand jury and charged with hate crimes and attempted kidnapping.​

Ahmaud Arbery. Courtesy of Family

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Arbery was jogging in Brunswick, Georgia, when Travis McMichael, 35, and his father, Gregory McMichael, 65, pursued him in their truck and shot him dead on Feb. 23, 2020.​

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William "Roddie" Bryan, 51, who was driving behind them in a separate truck, filmed the shooting.​

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Later, Gregory McMichael, a retired police officer, leaked the video because he wanted "the public to know the truth," his attorney said in 2020.​

The Department of Justice alleged on Wednesday that the men confronted Arbery "because of his race."​

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The incident sparked outrage and spurred an international movement to draw attention to racism against Black runners, NBC News reported.​

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Travis and Gregory were also each charged with "carrying, and brandishing—and in Travis’s case, discharging—a firearm during and in relation to a crime of violence," the DOJ said in a press release.​

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Gregory and Travis, father and son, were previously each charged with murder in May 2020 for the death of Arbery.​

​

So now it’s a “hate crime” to confront thieves in your neighborhood. It’s a “hate crime” to defend yourself when they attack you and try to take your gun away.

If these men were police, they would had been 100% justified in shooting him. And there is no reason a citizen can’t make a citizens arrest when catching a criminal in the act.

We’ve seen the video evidence, we know he was guilty.

Oh good. We are starting this again. Ok. What crime was Arbury committing at the time the McMichaels chased him, confronted him, and killed him?

They saw him trespassing on that property. They also recognized him from before, he had been in the neighborhood and stole shit out of cars before.

He attacked the man with the shotgun, tried to take it from him, got blasted.

Nobody ever saw him stealing anything. There is no video of him stealing from the construction site. I repeat. What crime did he commit on the day?

Assault which is the essential element of this case.

Actually no. You might wish it was. But the reason for the pursuit is the root of the case. The McMichaels maintain they were trying to effect a citizens arrest. Since no crime took place that means the pursuit and effort to detain Arbury was criminal.

In Georgia when criminals pursue you we have stand your ground. It means Arbury’s actions under law were defensive. It also means the McMichaels committed murder.

No.....the Senior McMicharls had been designated as the go to guy for the problems with burglaries and trespassing in that neighborhood as he was a former policeman and investigator.

Chasing someone is not a crime......trying to talk to someone is not a crime....telling someone to stop is not an arrest....you remain coinfused.

I am actually thrilled that you are not their lawyer. Because if you were the appeal about your incompetence during the trial would guarantee them another one. This way they have a competent defense. One with a low probability of success. But a chance.

McMichaels claimed it on the day during interviews with police. His lawyer asked Dial the GBI investigator about it on the hearing I posted in this thread.

But you being right is not about truth or facts. It is about your short attention span and ignorance. You won’t read the links. You won’t watch the videos. I could post more but you have not read one yet.

The McMichaels are almost certainly going to be convicted. If convicted they will get 20 to life in prison. For Daddy that is life. Roddy might get out as an old man. Travis will never leave Prison alive.

Honestly the one with the best chance to avoid prison is Roddy. And his chances are not good. Say ten percent. The Jury might buy his argument that he was trying to help neighbors who he thought were in the right. Maybe. As I said. One chance in ten.

You of course being ignorant of the law, the facts, or anything will blame it on Liberals and all that.

You let your bias delude you.....your understanding of law is thus compromised.

Well a Defense attorney says so.

Another attorney. He says no too.



Odd isn’t it. All the actual legal people seem to be who I am quoting and you are quoting. Yourself and other right wing radicals. Not actual lawyers. You know. Who know the law. And make their living with the law. Ah. What do they know.

I repeat. I am happy the McMichaels are not represented by you. Your understanding of the law would get them the death penalty.

I wish he was representing them.

I love the Constitution so much I want them to have a competent and vigorous defense. Even though I believe they are murdering idiots I want every conviction no matter who the defendant is to be hard won. I want every defendant to have the best defense possible.

You said you watched the video of Ahmaud getting kilt........could you give us your take on it?

Are you black?

Oh For Fucks Sake.

Yes I saw the video. And as I already said the video showed them doing everything I was told not to do.

I started to read. News articles. Reports of court filings. I watched the hearing. I gathered information. And you know what? My initial impression was confirmed by the charges handed down by the Grand Jury. The blithering idiots did everything they were not supposed to do.

As more of the story and sequence of events came down it was confirmed. Then I spent some time considering why these two morons would do this?

Part of my training in the Army was to estimate what people would do. Enemy soldiers, but people. My Sergeants taught me and they stressed that people react according to their nature. You go with what you know. And what you believe.

It clicked. My estimation about what happened. When it was reported that they used derogatory words to describe Arbury online and in discussions with Roddy. I would guess that they felt about Blacks as you do. Generally speaking.

My Father and Mother worked with people from every imaginable background. During parties and such there were always what would be called Minorities around. I never heard my parents speak ill of a race. I was taught to treat every adult as someone important. Yes sir. No sir. All that sort of thing.

I had black, brown, and white friends growing up. My Confirmation Sponsor is a Hispanic man who is a first generation American. I hold him in the greatest esteem. A finer man I have rarely made the acquaintance of.

My focus is always the truth. And the first truth is that anyone who claims to be able to judge a people based upon skin color is a fool. Anyone who claims science backs up such nonsense is heir to the throne of the kingdom of fools.

You see a Black Man. I see a man. You see a race of criminals. I see people. You claim an advantage of IQ. I doubt you are smarter than most minorities. I doubt you are as smart as most to be honest.

It is said that you should be careful of what you hate. You become that which you hate. You become it.

I don’t hate you or any one. I would avoid associating myself with you as your outlook is intolerably offensive to good sense and logic.

And my IQ is 135. I maxed out several sections of the ASVAB and qualified for Nuclear Power if I had joined the Navy instead of the Army.

Color does not matter. And using another’s hate to justify your own is childish and petty. I was taught better than that.

All of that and you still could not properly analyze a video that was not complicated at all....BTW regarding racial slurs...few living people that have never done that and blacks moreso than anyone.......you claim not to be biased yet it definitely appears you are biased against whites......lot of yankees in Georgia now....especially from New Yawk....I say that to say this......you sound like either a black or a Damn Yankee.

But you could just be the product of a public school indoctrination.....very sad.

The video shows clearly two people waiting to do some harm to a man running. The man is being pursued by another unknown number of thugs.

no they were waiting for the police....Gregory standing in the back of the truck was on the phone wid 911 the precise moment ahmaud jogged up and attacked Travis.....whereupon he threw down his phone and pulled our his pistol...but Travis needed no help.

The man in the truck (1 man) was recording ahmaud on his cell phone......he was just a neighbor who saw something going on and decided to film it like a lot of folks do these days.

You asked my immediate impression. Of course. Now we are certain that the McMichaels are in fact murderers.

 

[SavannahMann]

What crime did he commit on the day?

Trespassing.

Ok. You understand that under Georgia Law he wasn’t actually trespassing. The police could not have arrested him for that. For that the owner or a designated representative would have to have told him to leave.

Further. The McMichaels had no authority to enforce that. So now according to you the attempt to arrest Arbury was criminal and they are murderers.

There was no attempt to arrest Ahmaud....you are a liar and you keep repeating the lie.

The McMichaels say they were. Are they lying too? Their lawyers say that the citizens arrest law is the centerpiece of their defense. Are the defense attorneys lying too?

Georgia to Weaken Citizen’s Arrest Law Cited in Ahmaud Arbery’s Death (Published 2021)

The governor supports a bill passed on Wednesday that repeals language allowing people to arrest someone who they witnessed committing a crime.

www.nytimes.com

I posted that before. Shame you didn’t read it.

The McMichaels said that when they headed out..they intended to make a citizens arrest....but no attempt to arrest was made.

The new law is not applicable to the McMicharls as it was enacted after the incident and their arrest....it is just another example of how this nation is being torn apart by wokeness.

I have no idea what the defense team is doing.

Rocker Johnny Rotten: 'Wokeness' Pushed by 'Children Coming Out of Colleges With Sh*t for Brains'

Sex Pistols frontman Johnny Rotten says "wokeness" is a divisive political weapon being wielded by privileged, "tempestuous, spoilt children," whom the media offer a platform to push their unpopular politically correct opinions.

www.breitbart.com

What crime did they see him commit?

If it was known he committed a crime they would have arrested him....but since he was just a person of interest.....they followed him and caled 911

No they chased him and murdered him, I know you have to put the racist spin to it.

Have you ever known a black man to be guilty of anything?

Known some to be, have you ever known a white racist to be guilty of anything other than being a racist.

I will have to take the 5th on dat....i have known some bad mudda ruckers but none worse than me ----but I have never served any time or been convicted of anything.

Let my clarify that....I am just speaking in philosophical terms if yo git mah drift NigNog

Oh please. You are a basement dwelling douche. You ain’t bad.
You ain’t even tough enough to stand in bad’s shadow. If you were a tenth as tough as you talk you would be in those cities where BLM and Antifa are showing us a Kyle Rittenhouse move or two.

I’ve crapped tougher turds than you.

Nah. You ain’t bad. You are just a pathetic twit blaming others for his own miserable life.

 

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I have looked extensively and I can't find any source of information at all that might suggest that he was "jogging" as so dutifully reported.

Liar. No you haven't.

I found this.
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But I was asking about evidence that he was actually jogging. YOu gonna help, or just going to continue to be a dick?

Where did you find that? Why not post the link?

Dipshit pissed me off so I aint posting links. Google it.
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You didn't post a link, because it's a lie coming from a lying POS.

Everybody who thinks differently from you all are liars. And the name calling. Got it. Your Google works the same as mine. I even gave you a picture.

So no one has any evidence that he was actually jogging.

What part of they have EVIDENCE that these 3 racist hillbillies murdered the man. He wasn't on any of the 3's property, he did not approach any of them, non of them were LE, so they had no business bothering that young man at all.

I didn't ask anything about that. I keep seeing these news reports about him out jogging and the word jogging keeps appearing. Just wanted to know if anyone else besides his mom thought he was jogging.

and the word jogging

Is absolutely irrelevant to any salient point.
The play of a supremacist moron. Nothing more.

I think you have me confused with your mom. Your mom is a supremacist moron.
My point has sailed over your head. (shocker I know)
Or you have chosen to not pay attention.
Probably the latter.
I dont give a shit really. You and most of your USMB ilk are obviously already inoculated.
Denial is the most predictable of all human responses.