5 ways we know that yes, they want to ban guns and end the 2nd Amendment...

[2aguy]

/----/ There was a famous gun grabber I read about. His name slips my mind.

Nazi Germany loosened the gun laws imposed by the Weimar republic.

and not a one of those "Good Germans' ran out with their guns to save the Jews... because when your major religious leader wrote a book called 'The Jews and their Lies", you probably aren't too keen on that.

No...actually, it doesn't. Like Britain....they banned and confiscated guns, and their gun crime rate is going up, not down, their violent crime rate is going up, not down...

More Americans now own and carry guns.....and our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, our violent crime rate went down 72%....please explain how this happened...

and 2 Tiny Guy learns - HOW TO LIE WITH STATISTICS>

America had 11,000 Gun homicides every year.

The UK has 51.

Our Gun murder rate isn't going down, Too Tiny.

And in all things...you are wrong.....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[Mac1958]

A majority on the Left certainly wants to keep the 2nd and just add some restrictions. There's a reasonable argument on both sides of that issue. Fair enough.

The problem is - and we've seen them on this board, not to mention elsewhere - that there are indeed those who would repeal it. And those people make an easy target - um, no pun intended - for the Right, which can then issue accusations like this.

Yet another example of why the wings in the country are impeding progress. I wonder how many more we'll tolerate before the middle has had enough.
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[2aguy]

/----/ There was a famous gun grabber I read about. His name slips my mind.

Nazi Germany loosened the gun laws imposed by the Weimar republic.

and not a one of those "Good Germans' ran out with their guns to save the Jews... because when your major religious leader wrote a book called 'The Jews and their Lies", you probably aren't too keen on that.

No...actually, it doesn't. Like Britain....they banned and confiscated guns, and their gun crime rate is going up, not down, their violent crime rate is going up, not down...

More Americans now own and carry guns.....and our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, our violent crime rate went down 72%....please explain how this happened...

and 2 Tiny Guy learns - HOW TO LIE WITH STATISTICS>

America had 11,000 Gun homicides every year.

The UK has 51.

Our Gun murder rate isn't going down, Too Tiny.

the nazis allowed their party members to have guns....they took guns away from the people they wanted to murder.....

The British had a low gun murder rate before they banned guns..... that didn't change after they banned guns...... and now their gun crime rate is going up, and their violent crime rate is going up, while our gun murder rate is going down and our gun crime rate is going down.....

 

[Silent Warrior]

A majority on the Left certainly wants to keep the 2nd and just add some restrictions. There's a reasonable argument on both sides of that issue. Fair enough.

The problem is - and we've seen them on this board, not to mention elsewhere - that there are indeed those who would repeal it. And those people make an easy target - um, no pun intended - for the Right, which can then issue accusations like this.

Yet another example of why the wings in the country are impeding progress. I wonder how many more we'll tolerate before the middle has had enough.
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This is true as far as it goes, but it ignores our history. We have a history of “foot in the door” politics. We seem to follow the same series of steps.

1. If we only regulate X or make it legal we will solve all our problems and we promise to go no further.
2. We just need to increase the regulations a tiny bit to fine tune it to remove any racial disparity.
3. We now need to tighten the regulations again for the children.
4. You are now required to use X (or give up X) for true equality.
5. The government will now increase taxes to pay for X for those that can't afford it.

Every thing we do seems to proceed this way and still wonder how our liberties are eroded.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Yes....they want to ban guns and they want to end the 2nd Amendment...how do we know? They keep telling us they want to ban guns and end the 2nd Amendment....

5 Facts Proving "They Are Coming For Your Guns" Is Not A Conspiracy Theory

1. The mainstream media is openly calling for the repeal of the Second Amendment
It is no secret that every time there are reports of a mass shooting, there are a number of politicians who openly call for gun control, but there has recently been an increase in media outlets joining the anti-gun bandwagon. The Miami Herald published an Op-Ed titled, “Repeal The Second Amendment—It’s Not A Crazy Idea.” Rolling Stone published an explanation on “Why It’s Time To Repeal The Second Amendment.” And USA Today stated, “Repeal The Second Amendment. It’s The Only Way Towards Real Change.”

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2. Students are parroting the claims and using their platforms as victims of gun violence to push for a ban on guns
Parkland Shooting survivor David Hogg has become the face of the student activist movement against guns, and the demands are troubling. The students are openly supporting a ban on guns that have been deemed “assault rifles,” a ban on high-capacity magazines, a federal background check “on every gun sale,” increasing taxes on gun sales and raising the minimum age to own a gun to 21.

In a speech at a March For Our Lives rally, Stoneman Douglas student Delaney Tarr revealed that even if the students achieve individual bans, they will continue to push until the Second Amendment is fully dismantled. “We will take the big and we will take the small, but we will keep fighting. When they give us that inch, that bump stock ban, we will take a mile. We are not here for breadcrumbs. We are here for real change,” she said.
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3. Law Enforcement officials are also calling for a ban on guns—which means they would be the only ones with guns
It is no secret that a ban on guns would result in law enforcement officers and criminals being the only individuals who have guns. Daryl Fisher, a candidate for Buncombe County Sheriff in North Carolina, recently addressed the issue of how police would confiscate the firearms, and when proposed with the quote “you’ll have to pry my guns from my cold, dead hands,” he shrugged his shoulders and said “OK!”

I sure hope you're locked and loaded with that much paranoia.

/-----/ These famous leaders agree with you 100%. What could possibly go wrong?
View attachment 197959

Actually, gun control works in other civilized countries. Maybe when we're civilized for real...

No it doesn't

 

[Skull Pilot]

Yes....they want to ban guns and they want to end the 2nd Amendment...how do we know? They keep telling us they want to ban guns and end the 2nd Amendment....

5 Facts Proving "They Are Coming For Your Guns" Is Not A Conspiracy Theory

1. The mainstream media is openly calling for the repeal of the Second Amendment
It is no secret that every time there are reports of a mass shooting, there are a number of politicians who openly call for gun control, but there has recently been an increase in media outlets joining the anti-gun bandwagon. The Miami Herald published an Op-Ed titled, “Repeal The Second Amendment—It’s Not A Crazy Idea.” Rolling Stone published an explanation on “Why It’s Time To Repeal The Second Amendment.” And USA Today stated, “Repeal The Second Amendment. It’s The Only Way Towards Real Change.”

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2. Students are parroting the claims and using their platforms as victims of gun violence to push for a ban on guns
Parkland Shooting survivor David Hogg has become the face of the student activist movement against guns, and the demands are troubling. The students are openly supporting a ban on guns that have been deemed “assault rifles,” a ban on high-capacity magazines, a federal background check “on every gun sale,” increasing taxes on gun sales and raising the minimum age to own a gun to 21.

In a speech at a March For Our Lives rally, Stoneman Douglas student Delaney Tarr revealed that even if the students achieve individual bans, they will continue to push until the Second Amendment is fully dismantled. “We will take the big and we will take the small, but we will keep fighting. When they give us that inch, that bump stock ban, we will take a mile. We are not here for breadcrumbs. We are here for real change,” she said.
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3. Law Enforcement officials are also calling for a ban on guns—which means they would be the only ones with guns
It is no secret that a ban on guns would result in law enforcement officers and criminals being the only individuals who have guns. Daryl Fisher, a candidate for Buncombe County Sheriff in North Carolina, recently addressed the issue of how police would confiscate the firearms, and when proposed with the quote “you’ll have to pry my guns from my cold, dead hands,” he shrugged his shoulders and said “OK!”

I sure hope you're locked and loaded with that much paranoia.

/-----/ These famous leaders agree with you 100%. What could possibly go wrong?
View attachment 197959

Actually, gun control works in other civilized countries. Maybe when we're civilized for real...

No...actually, it doesn't. Like Britain....they banned and confiscated guns, and their gun crime rate is going up, not down, their violent crime rate is going up, not down...

More Americans now own and carry guns.....and our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, our violent crime rate went down 72%....please explain how this happened...

It’s still a long way from what our gun violence is.

and it has nothing to do with their gun laws

 

[Taz]

I sure hope you're locked and loaded with that much paranoia.

/-----/ These famous leaders agree with you 100%. What could possibly go wrong?
View attachment 197959

Actually, gun control works in other civilized countries. Maybe when we're civilized for real...

No...actually, it doesn't. Like Britain....they banned and confiscated guns, and their gun crime rate is going up, not down, their violent crime rate is going up, not down...

More Americans now own and carry guns.....and our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, our violent crime rate went down 72%....please explain how this happened...

It’s still a long way from what our gun violence is.

They were promised that gun violence would decrease if they gave up their guns....guns they did not use to commit crime. What they got in return? More gun violence and more violent crime.....

What did we get as more Americans own and actually carry guns? Gun murder, down 49%.....gun crime down 75%....violent crime down 72%.....please explain how that happened......

Their gun violence rate is way less than here, look it up.

 

[Taz]

Yes....they want to ban guns and they want to end the 2nd Amendment...how do we know? They keep telling us they want to ban guns and end the 2nd Amendment....

5 Facts Proving "They Are Coming For Your Guns" Is Not A Conspiracy Theory

1. The mainstream media is openly calling for the repeal of the Second Amendment
It is no secret that every time there are reports of a mass shooting, there are a number of politicians who openly call for gun control, but there has recently been an increase in media outlets joining the anti-gun bandwagon. The Miami Herald published an Op-Ed titled, “Repeal The Second Amendment—It’s Not A Crazy Idea.” Rolling Stone published an explanation on “Why It’s Time To Repeal The Second Amendment.” And USA Today stated, “Repeal The Second Amendment. It’s The Only Way Towards Real Change.”

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2. Students are parroting the claims and using their platforms as victims of gun violence to push for a ban on guns
Parkland Shooting survivor David Hogg has become the face of the student activist movement against guns, and the demands are troubling. The students are openly supporting a ban on guns that have been deemed “assault rifles,” a ban on high-capacity magazines, a federal background check “on every gun sale,” increasing taxes on gun sales and raising the minimum age to own a gun to 21.

In a speech at a March For Our Lives rally, Stoneman Douglas student Delaney Tarr revealed that even if the students achieve individual bans, they will continue to push until the Second Amendment is fully dismantled. “We will take the big and we will take the small, but we will keep fighting. When they give us that inch, that bump stock ban, we will take a mile. We are not here for breadcrumbs. We are here for real change,” she said.
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3. Law Enforcement officials are also calling for a ban on guns—which means they would be the only ones with guns
It is no secret that a ban on guns would result in law enforcement officers and criminals being the only individuals who have guns. Daryl Fisher, a candidate for Buncombe County Sheriff in North Carolina, recently addressed the issue of how police would confiscate the firearms, and when proposed with the quote “you’ll have to pry my guns from my cold, dead hands,” he shrugged his shoulders and said “OK!”

I sure hope you're locked and loaded with that much paranoia.

/-----/ These famous leaders agree with you 100%. What could possibly go wrong?
View attachment 197959

Actually, gun control works in other civilized countries. Maybe when we're civilized for real...

No it doesn't

Yes it does.

 

[Skull Pilot]

/----/ There was a famous gun grabber I read about. His name slips my mind.

Nazi Germany loosened the gun laws imposed by the Weimar republic.

and not a one of those "Good Germans' ran out with their guns to save the Jews... because when your major religious leader wrote a book called 'The Jews and their Lies", you probably aren't too keen on that.

No...actually, it doesn't. Like Britain....they banned and confiscated guns, and their gun crime rate is going up, not down, their violent crime rate is going up, not down...

More Americans now own and carry guns.....and our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, our violent crime rate went down 72%....please explain how this happened...

and 2 Tiny Guy learns - HOW TO LIE WITH STATISTICS>

America had 11,000 Gun homicides every year.

The UK has 51.

Our Gun murder rate isn't going down, Too Tiny.

And you don't use murders per capita so you too are misrepresenting

 

[Taz]

I sure hope you're locked and loaded with that much paranoia.

/-----/ These famous leaders agree with you 100%. What could possibly go wrong?
View attachment 197959

Actually, gun control works in other civilized countries. Maybe when we're civilized for real...

No...actually, it doesn't. Like Britain....they banned and confiscated guns, and their gun crime rate is going up, not down, their violent crime rate is going up, not down...

More Americans now own and carry guns.....and our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, our violent crime rate went down 72%....please explain how this happened...

It’s still a long way from what our gun violence is.

and it has nothing to do with their gun laws

 

[Skull Pilot]

Yes....they want to ban guns and they want to end the 2nd Amendment...how do we know? They keep telling us they want to ban guns and end the 2nd Amendment....

5 Facts Proving "They Are Coming For Your Guns" Is Not A Conspiracy Theory

1. The mainstream media is openly calling for the repeal of the Second Amendment
It is no secret that every time there are reports of a mass shooting, there are a number of politicians who openly call for gun control, but there has recently been an increase in media outlets joining the anti-gun bandwagon. The Miami Herald published an Op-Ed titled, “Repeal The Second Amendment—It’s Not A Crazy Idea.” Rolling Stone published an explanation on “Why It’s Time To Repeal The Second Amendment.” And USA Today stated, “Repeal The Second Amendment. It’s The Only Way Towards Real Change.”

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2. Students are parroting the claims and using their platforms as victims of gun violence to push for a ban on guns
Parkland Shooting survivor David Hogg has become the face of the student activist movement against guns, and the demands are troubling. The students are openly supporting a ban on guns that have been deemed “assault rifles,” a ban on high-capacity magazines, a federal background check “on every gun sale,” increasing taxes on gun sales and raising the minimum age to own a gun to 21.

In a speech at a March For Our Lives rally, Stoneman Douglas student Delaney Tarr revealed that even if the students achieve individual bans, they will continue to push until the Second Amendment is fully dismantled. “We will take the big and we will take the small, but we will keep fighting. When they give us that inch, that bump stock ban, we will take a mile. We are not here for breadcrumbs. We are here for real change,” she said.
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3. Law Enforcement officials are also calling for a ban on guns—which means they would be the only ones with guns
It is no secret that a ban on guns would result in law enforcement officers and criminals being the only individuals who have guns. Daryl Fisher, a candidate for Buncombe County Sheriff in North Carolina, recently addressed the issue of how police would confiscate the firearms, and when proposed with the quote “you’ll have to pry my guns from my cold, dead hands,” he shrugged his shoulders and said “OK!”

I sure hope you're locked and loaded with that much paranoia.

/-----/ These famous leaders agree with you 100%. What could possibly go wrong?
View attachment 197959

Actually, gun control works in other civilized countries. Maybe when we're civilized for real...

No it doesn't

Yes it does.

Then tell me why the murder rate in the UK today is not lower than it was before all their gun laws were passed

 

[Skull Pilot]

/-----/ These famous leaders agree with you 100%. What could possibly go wrong?
View attachment 197959

Actually, gun control works in other civilized countries. Maybe when we're civilized for real...

No...actually, it doesn't. Like Britain....they banned and confiscated guns, and their gun crime rate is going up, not down, their violent crime rate is going up, not down...

More Americans now own and carry guns.....and our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, our violent crime rate went down 72%....please explain how this happened...

It’s still a long way from what our gun violence is.

and it has nothing to do with their gun laws

Then tell me why the murder rate in the UK today is not lower than it was before all their gun laws were passed

 

[Taz]

I sure hope you're locked and loaded with that much paranoia.

/-----/ These famous leaders agree with you 100%. What could possibly go wrong?
View attachment 197959

Actually, gun control works in other civilized countries. Maybe when we're civilized for real...

No it doesn't

Yes it does.

Then tell me why the murder rate in the UK today is not lower than it was before all their gun laws were passed

It's still very low, much lower than ours.

 

[Skull Pilot]

/-----/ These famous leaders agree with you 100%. What could possibly go wrong?
View attachment 197959

Actually, gun control works in other civilized countries. Maybe when we're civilized for real...

No...actually, it doesn't. Like Britain....they banned and confiscated guns, and their gun crime rate is going up, not down, their violent crime rate is going up, not down...

More Americans now own and carry guns.....and our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, our violent crime rate went down 72%....please explain how this happened...

It’s still a long way from what our gun violence is.

They were promised that gun violence would decrease if they gave up their guns....guns they did not use to commit crime. What they got in return? More gun violence and more violent crime.....

What did we get as more Americans own and actually carry guns? Gun murder, down 49%.....gun crime down 75%....violent crime down 72%.....please explain how that happened......

Their gun violence rate is way less than here, look it up.

They just have more knife violence per capita than we do.

They have more assaults per capita than we do
More rapes per capita than we do

 

[Skull Pilot]

/-----/ These famous leaders agree with you 100%. What could possibly go wrong?
View attachment 197959

Actually, gun control works in other civilized countries. Maybe when we're civilized for real...

No it doesn't

Yes it does.

Then tell me why the murder rate in the UK today is not lower than it was before all their gun laws were passed

It's still very low, much lower than ours.

You didn't answer the question as usual

The UK gun laws did nothing to lower their murder rate

 

[Taz]

Yes....they want to ban guns and they want to end the 2nd Amendment...how do we know? They keep telling us they want to ban guns and end the 2nd Amendment....

5 Facts Proving "They Are Coming For Your Guns" Is Not A Conspiracy Theory

1. The mainstream media is openly calling for the repeal of the Second Amendment
It is no secret that every time there are reports of a mass shooting, there are a number of politicians who openly call for gun control, but there has recently been an increase in media outlets joining the anti-gun bandwagon. The Miami Herald published an Op-Ed titled, “Repeal The Second Amendment—It’s Not A Crazy Idea.” Rolling Stone published an explanation on “Why It’s Time To Repeal The Second Amendment.” And USA Today stated, “Repeal The Second Amendment. It’s The Only Way Towards Real Change.”

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2. Students are parroting the claims and using their platforms as victims of gun violence to push for a ban on guns
Parkland Shooting survivor David Hogg has become the face of the student activist movement against guns, and the demands are troubling. The students are openly supporting a ban on guns that have been deemed “assault rifles,” a ban on high-capacity magazines, a federal background check “on every gun sale,” increasing taxes on gun sales and raising the minimum age to own a gun to 21.

In a speech at a March For Our Lives rally, Stoneman Douglas student Delaney Tarr revealed that even if the students achieve individual bans, they will continue to push until the Second Amendment is fully dismantled. “We will take the big and we will take the small, but we will keep fighting. When they give us that inch, that bump stock ban, we will take a mile. We are not here for breadcrumbs. We are here for real change,” she said.
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3. Law Enforcement officials are also calling for a ban on guns—which means they would be the only ones with guns
It is no secret that a ban on guns would result in law enforcement officers and criminals being the only individuals who have guns. Daryl Fisher, a candidate for Buncombe County Sheriff in North Carolina, recently addressed the issue of how police would confiscate the firearms, and when proposed with the quote “you’ll have to pry my guns from my cold, dead hands,” he shrugged his shoulders and said “OK!”

I sure hope you're locked and loaded with that much paranoia.

/-----/ These famous leaders agree with you 100%. What could possibly go wrong?
View attachment 197959

Actually, gun control works in other civilized countries. Maybe when we're civilized for real...

The 130 dead in Paris would disagree with you.

So because of terrorism, everyone should be armed? Wow, that's pretty dumb, even for you.

 

[Mac1958]

A majority on the Left certainly wants to keep the 2nd and just add some restrictions. There's a reasonable argument on both sides of that issue. Fair enough.

The problem is - and we've seen them on this board, not to mention elsewhere - that there are indeed those who would repeal it. And those people make an easy target - um, no pun intended - for the Right, which can then issue accusations like this.

Yet another example of why the wings in the country are impeding progress. I wonder how many more we'll tolerate before the middle has had enough.
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This is true as far as it goes, but it ignores our history. We have a history of “foot in the door” politics. We seem to follow the same series of steps.

1. If we only regulate X or make it legal we will solve all our problems and we promise to go no further.
2. We just need to increase the regulations a tiny bit to fine tune it to remove any racial disparity.
3. We now need to tighten the regulations again for the children.
4. You are now required to use X (or give up X) for true equality.
5. The government will now increase taxes to pay for X for those that can't afford it.

Every thing we do seems to proceed this way and still wonder how our liberties are eroded.

Well, this opens up one helluva can o' worms.

First of all, I understand and agree. The "slippery slope" argument is a fair one, particularly given our current, almost child-like political environment.

That said, I think we need to try to avoid broad extrapolations, i.e., assumptions about the future based on current information. The danger with that is that we lapse into binary thinking on virtually every important issue. My opinion -- um, theory -- is that the strongest and longest-lasting rules are created by collaboration, because each party has significant skin in the game.

Look at the ACA, for example. It was crammed through by one party, and now it's being dismantled by the other. Had this been a broad, bipartisan law, it would have been much less likely to fall apart after one election. Now, all we're going to see is continued chaos, more back-and-forth yanking.

I do get the slippery slope thing. My feeling is that the way to inoculate ourselves from it is broad-based collaboration, in which every gets some, everyone gives some, and everyone has something to lose.
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[there4eyeM]

Here we go again. Just how many times are you going to keep doing this. One one hand you keep perpetuating the gun "They are trying to take all my guns" culture. And on the other hand, you are glorifying the Mass Shooters. Then you complain that everyone else is glorifying the mass shooters. Newsflash: That someone is YOU.

Now, let's take a look at your Cite. It's listed on the Net as a conspiracy site. It's degree of truth is rated as low. What it does is puts in enough truth to sound true but then scatters falsehoods to take it another direction. The Activist Post is nothing more than a Blog and part of a large group of conspiracy sites. If you stay with it, it puts it's hand out for money. For instance, Dr. Otto Warburg did exist. HE was a Nobel Prize Winner in Nazi Germany. That part is true. But he did NOT find the one and only true cure for cancer. This is where the conspiracy breaks down. He published a few things and was finally debunked in 1962 when he stated that Cancer was only caused by Pollution. He was only partially correct. We know now that some people are born with the cancer built into their dna and even without Pollution, they will end up with Cancer. Meanwhile, the clip continues to scare people that scare already scared people to send them money for this revolutionary cure. This is sad.

Repeal The Second Amendment

You have misrepresented this. The fact remains that the FFS had no idea what would happen AFTER 1850 where our weapons would outgrow our 2nd amendment. The Constitution is a living document. Meaning, it is supposed to be updated as the nation matures. The 2nd amendment was left vague so that it could be updated. It hasn't been. For instance, the first half of it referring to the need for the Organized Militia went by the way in 1917 with the National Guard Act. The 2nd amendment needed to be updated for that. Then our weapons outgrew the safe personal usage of the individual. We now had the full Automatic Weapons, Grenade Launchers and more. And let's not forget the rifle that started it all, the Browning Model 1917 Automatic Rifle. This rifle was so good that the US decided NOT to send it to Europe during WWI in fear that it would be copied by the Germans and used against us. The BAR (Browning Automatic Rifle) brought us the M-1, M-14 and Mini-14. But the Civilian versions of the M-1, M-14 and MIni-14 were semi-auto and really made lousy military weapons as they were a bit cumbersome. The Thompson and other Automatic Rifles were found to be just too destructive for civilian life. What brought them down was that fact that they were used in spray and pray and more innocents were being killed than the bad guys that were intended to be killed. Something had to be done.

What was done was the Firearms Act of 1934. Rather than go out and completely outlaw them, they stopped manufacture of them. They also stopped manufacture of replacement parts. You could no longer sell them, transfer them, give them away or even will them to your children. Every time they found one used in a crime, they destroyed the weapon. In about a 10 year time, the Thompson was completely off the streets and out of the Criminals hands. And when they broke, they became a wall hangar. You can sell, give away, bequeath a wall hanger if you disable it from ever being used as a firearm again. Many went into firearms collectors hands who had FFL Licenses who could buy and sell them legally to others with FFL licenses. They weren't banned at all.

The question remains, is the creation of the FFL regulation against the 2nd amendment? Why was it not then but it is now? And do we need to keep the vagueness of the 2nd amendment, repeal it and replace it or just amend it like we have with other amendments? We do need something to protect our personal firearms but we need a clear idea of what we need those firearms to be used for and then match the class of firearms to the need. I can use a Bazooka to hunt deer with but it's not the best tool. But that Remington Model 700 is a much better choice.

Students are parroting the claims and using their platforms as victims of gun violence to push for a ban on guns

Could it be that they just don't want to be next on the kill list? I can see how the Little Girl scares the living hell out of you. She just turned Voting Age as does millions of other graduating High School Seniors that don't wish for their younger brothers, sisters and friends to be the next victims. You can't buy their votes. You can't buy their support. The Bought and Paid for Politicians are having to do a complete rethink. Some are starting to do a rethink. But first they have to sever the pig trough they have been eating at and that is hard to do. Here are most of the students are going for:

1. Increasing the buying age of firearms to 21
2. decreasing the number of rounds in a magazine
3. comprehensive background checks with NO exceptions
4. Classifying firearms to what is for personal protection, hunting and what is not

Look for this to become nationwide state to state. It's happening already. Those Piggies are going to have to go find jobs. Not to worry, the Corporations they have been working for all along have jobs waiting for them. They certainly don't work for the American People. This is what those Young Adults are saying.

Law Enforcement officials are also calling for a ban on guns—which means they would be the only ones with guns

Your site showed just a few seconds of what this Sheriff said. it's called taking it out of context. Here is an interview by a Republican Newsman afterwards.



States are chipping away at the constitutional rights granted by the Second Amendment by passing laws banning guns that have been deemed “assault rifles”

They used Boulder as an example. Once again, misinformation. Yes, the ordinance passed but it's not in affect. They are still trying to hammer out the details. It''s complicated. For instance, some parts of it goes just a bit too far while other parts are just impossible to enforce. While the idea is good, the final product may look completely different than the beginning document.

Congress recently passed legislation that gives federal agencies power over gun control, effectively putting every American’s Second Amendment rights at risk

Horsepucky. The Federall Government has very little rights to regulate firearms outside off the extreme weapons. The States hold those rights.

I just love your scare tactics. And that is all they are. Misinformation of the worst kind. Please stop this nonsense. It's getting people killed.

Obviously, there must be some remuneration he receives. No one could be so repetitive for so long so unnecessarily without monetary gain.

 

[LOki]

Yes....they want to ban guns and they want to end the 2nd Amendment...how do we know? They keep telling us they want to ban guns and end the 2nd Amendment....

5 Facts Proving "They Are Coming For Your Guns" Is Not A Conspiracy Theory

1. The mainstream media is openly calling for the repeal of the Second Amendment
It is no secret that every time there are reports of a mass shooting, there are a number of politicians who openly call for gun control, but there has recently been an increase in media outlets joining the anti-gun bandwagon. The Miami Herald published an Op-Ed titled, “Repeal The Second Amendment—It’s Not A Crazy Idea.” Rolling Stone published an explanation on “Why It’s Time To Repeal The Second Amendment.” And USA Today stated, “Repeal The Second Amendment. It’s The Only Way Towards Real Change.”

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2. Students are parroting the claims and using their platforms as victims of gun violence to push for a ban on guns
Parkland Shooting survivor David Hogg has become the face of the student activist movement against guns, and the demands are troubling. The students are openly supporting a ban on guns that have been deemed “assault rifles,” a ban on high-capacity magazines, a federal background check “on every gun sale,” increasing taxes on gun sales and raising the minimum age to own a gun to 21.

In a speech at a March For Our Lives rally, Stoneman Douglas student Delaney Tarr revealed that even if the students achieve individual bans, they will continue to push until the Second Amendment is fully dismantled. “We will take the big and we will take the small, but we will keep fighting. When they give us that inch, that bump stock ban, we will take a mile. We are not here for breadcrumbs. We are here for real change,” she said.
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3. Law Enforcement officials are also calling for a ban on guns—which means they would be the only ones with guns
It is no secret that a ban on guns would result in law enforcement officers and criminals being the only individuals who have guns. Daryl Fisher, a candidate for Buncombe County Sheriff in North Carolina, recently addressed the issue of how police would confiscate the firearms, and when proposed with the quote “you’ll have to pry my guns from my cold, dead hands,” he shrugged his shoulders and said “OK!”

I sure hope you're locked and loaded with that much paranoia.

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Actually, gun control works in other civilized countries. Maybe when we're civilized for real...

A society that's actually civilized, has no problem with it's members possessing machine guns, rifles, shotguns, handguns, machetes, knives, etc...

Uncivilized societies--whose members are continuously on the brink of bloody savagery over the smallest of trivialities--are those that see civilian disarmament as a solution to mass murder in their streets.

Anti-rights advocates can now stop holding up these nations as civilized societies.

The consequences of gun control legislation are predictable; and have been predicted by the opponents of such legislation every time it's brought up. It is then fair to conclude that those consequences are the actual objective of such measures. Gun control works here... it works exactly as intended. I submit Columbine, Sandy Hook, Pulse, Parkland, etc. as evidence.

The targets of those atrocities were obeying the "common sense" gun laws governing the possession of such at those venues.

There is only one motive in the desire to see the targets of criminal violence undefended.

There is only one kind of person who desires to see the targets of criminal violence disarmed.

The people who desire to see the targets of criminal violence disarmed are the problem; they are the entire problem, and they are making their intentions clear.

Arrest them, prosecute them, and imprison them.. .and all the rest who would see the targets of their violence disarmed and undefended--and you'll see the end of these atrocities.

 

[Taz]

Actually, gun control works in other civilized countries. Maybe when we're civilized for real...

No...actually, it doesn't. Like Britain....they banned and confiscated guns, and their gun crime rate is going up, not down, their violent crime rate is going up, not down...

More Americans now own and carry guns.....and our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, our violent crime rate went down 72%....please explain how this happened...

It’s still a long way from what our gun violence is.

They were promised that gun violence would decrease if they gave up their guns....guns they did not use to commit crime. What they got in return? More gun violence and more violent crime.....

What did we get as more Americans own and actually carry guns? Gun murder, down 49%.....gun crime down 75%....violent crime down 72%.....please explain how that happened......

Their gun violence rate is way less than here, look it up.

They just have more knife violence per capita than we do.

They have more assaults per capita than we do
More rapes per capita than we do

Do you have a link, or is this just more fake shit?