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Getting back to the topic of this thread, dependency on government has definitely hurt blacks as well as whites who have refused to pursue jobs as a means of paying for their own support.
Government dependency is the lowest common denominator and they will continue to fuss that they are poor and need more. But it is their own choice to be on the government's tit so I have no solace for them, just disdain.
As I said before dependency is normally at its very essence a negative thing. Giving handouts without requiring some sort of payback is just another form of the slavery system in my opinion. The difference between dependency and support is that at some juncture you are expected to contribute equally once the playing field is equal. In the meantime you contribute what you can to help yourself. Right now we are in a support stage. When the day comes where 2 people of the same socio-economic status, ability, and potential can succeed regardless of race at that point support will become dependency. Fix society and the system don't complain about those that use it to even the odds a little.
Dependency of ANY sort is slavery. And this escapes you how cupcake?
hand ups are fine...safety net is fine...but when that net becomes a hammock? Guess what you have?
GUESS where we are, and by design?
I used to have to do public relations speaking for one of my jobs...it usually involved standing up in front of a couple hundred people and giving an introduction to someone who was promoting their latest book or film. Pretty straight forward stuff which was usually a walk in the park. But ever once in awhile you have one of those days when you're a bumbling, stumbling idiot who can't keep your train of thought or forgets someone's name or the title of their project. It's embarrassing. The good thing is that people are usually rather understanding about that sort of thing.
Then you've got politicians. Someone like W. is in office for 8 years and makes tens of thousands of speeches on every topic there is. They get asked countless questions by the media. And if they make a mess of it...God help them because they will see that clip played over and over and over again in a "greatest hits" collection of their speaking gaffes. You base your opinion on Bush's intelligence based on such a clip. It's not a fair way to judge someone.
So you understand preparation on a subject and the concept of a green room to get your thoughts together then? An opinion is not a fact. if i said Bush is stupid and I can prove it I could see you getting upset. Thats not what I said and you know it.
And once again...I'm not getting upset. I find your habit of stating something you can't support and then saying "Hey, that's just my opinion...I don't have to PROVE it!" amusing. When someone's opinion is worthless why would anyone waste time listening to it? Yet here you are, continuing to hold forth...
As I said before dependency is normally at its very essence a negative thing. Giving handouts without requiring some sort of payback is just another form of the slavery system in my opinion. The difference between dependency and support is that at some juncture you are expected to contribute equally once the playing field is equal. In the meantime you contribute what you can to help yourself. Right now we are in a support stage. When the day comes where 2 people of the same socio-economic status, ability, and potential can succeed regardless of race at that point support will become dependency. Fix society and the system don't complain about those that use it to even the odds a little.
Dependency of ANY sort is slavery. And this escapes you how cupcake?
hand ups are fine...safety net is fine...but when that net becomes a hammock? Guess what you have?
GUESS where we are, and by design?
Thats a dumb opinion. I give to families less fortunate than mine and I dont consider it slavery. You were dependent on your parents was that slavery? You were dependent on you teachers teaching you what you needed to know so you could graduate. Was that slavery?
Well, GOODIE FOR YOU, sport...*I* think he screwed us all with his compassionate conservatism (which was Socialism underneath a cloak of feel-good horsepuckey)...as he failed with the VETO PEN to spending on the same.I think George Bush is a idiot
Dependency of ANY sort is slavery. And this escapes you how cupcake?
hand ups are fine...safety net is fine...but when that net becomes a hammock? Guess what you have?
GUESS where we are, and by design?
Thats a dumb opinion. I give to families less fortunate than mine and I dont consider it slavery. You were dependent on your parents was that slavery? You were dependent on you teachers teaching you what you needed to know so you could graduate. Was that slavery?
NO it's PRUDENT. Every AMERICAN has OPPRITUNITY if they work hard...WHAT YOU are speaking of is Equality of result...which is ludicrous, and can't happen without unduly TAXING people by force of acceptance, since people ALL are different.
YOU support a welfare state...perpetual. *I* do NOT.
I refuse to pay for moochers...YOU? Not so much.
39.8% of people on public assistence are black. Blacks constitute 13.1% of the population. So their representation on assistance rolls is far out of proportion to their presence in the general population.BEcause welfare disproportionately affects blacks since a disproportionate percentage of the black community is on gov't assistance of some sort.
But nice try at deflection.
What percentage is that?
because welfare disproportionately affects blacks since a disproportionate percentage of the black community is on gov't assistance of some sort.
but nice try at deflection.
what percentage is that?
25%
It just struck me what the relationship between Black society and white society parallels. Its one big abusive family where white society is like the parents who physically beat, lied to, created division, and mentally abused their children. Now as the children are growing up the parents are clueless as to why some of the children are violent and others do things to hold themselves back.
And voted into office for one reason, and ONE reason only...so the Statists could say that THEY were the first to get a black elected to POTUS. Nevermind as you so aptly point out that he was uniquely unqualified for the job to start with...but hasn't affirmative action ALWAYS been like that?He is incredibly stupid. But a talented phony
I wouldn't say he's stupid. I certainly don't think he is as "brilliant" as some fawning acolytes and wannabes would have their fellow sheep believe, but not stupid. He is just remarkably unqualified and unsuited to the job he currently holds.
WE as a nation have to suffer as a consequence of stupid people.
Thank you for your answer.
It just struck me what the relationship between Black society and white society parallels. Its one big abusive family where white society is like the parents who physically beat, lied to, created division, and mentally abused their children. Now as the children are growing up the parents are clueless as to why some of the children are violent and others do things to hold themselves back.
what percentage is that?
25%
Thank you for your answer. So that means that the majority (75%) of the Black population is not on government assistance. I would also venture to state that the majority (75%) is not in poverty. That's why I ask people when they criticize "the Blacks","why define the majority of "the Blacks", by the minority of the Blacks?". If 25% percent of your group was not doing well, and I claim that my ideology believes in the INDIVIDUAL, would it be fair to make a generalization that includes you and the majority of your people that aren't doing bad?
And as bad as it sounds? THEY have no clue how fortunate they are to be born here...and change their culture. Instead? We get excuses...and anger. It sits right in front of them...and ALL they do and their leaders do is WHINE.
Thank you for your answer. So that means that the majority (75%) of the Black population is not on government assistance. I would also venture to state that the majority (75%) is not in poverty. That's why I ask people when they criticize "the Blacks","why define the majority of "the Blacks", by the minority of the Blacks?". If 25% percent of your group was not doing well, and I claim that my ideology believes in the INDIVIDUAL, would it be fair to make a generalization that includes you and the majority of your people that aren't doing bad?
Do you even understand what the hell you're talking about?
The issue is that the black community is over run with poverty, dependence, drug use and violence. This has been the result of 40 years of Democratic policies that only increase the factors that cause all those conditions. Some of us want to see the black community do better by changing or eliminating those prorgams. We believe blacks can compete with whites on equal basis for education and jobs and opinions to the contrary are racist and unproductive.
The facts are the facts. Blacks are grossly over represented in gov't welfare rolls of whatever type, prison populations, and murders both as victim and perp. That has to stop. The first step is figuring out what the problem is. It isnt genetic. Blacks from the Caribbean who come here do far better than American born blacks. It is cultural. And we must change that culture.
START with MY OPINION and work it out...or didn't YOU read it?Thats a dumb opinion. I give to families less fortunate than mine and I dont consider it slavery. You were dependent on your parents was that slavery? You were dependent on you teachers teaching you what you needed to know so you could graduate. Was that slavery?
NO it's PRUDENT. Every AMERICAN has OPPRITUNITY if they work hard...WHAT YOU are speaking of is Equality of result...which is ludicrous, and can't happen without unduly TAXING people by force of acceptance, since people ALL are different.
YOU support a welfare state...perpetual. *I* do NOT.
I refuse to pay for moochers...YOU? Not so much.
Hell no I dont support a perpetual welfare state for those not in need. Where did you get that from?
Thank you for your answer. So that means that the majority (75%) of the Black population is not on government assistance. I would also venture to state that the majority (75%) is not in poverty. That's why I ask people when they criticize "the Blacks","why define the majority of "the Blacks", by the minority of the Blacks?". If 25% percent of your group was not doing well, and I claim that my ideology believes in the INDIVIDUAL, would it be fair to make a generalization that includes you and the majority of your people that aren't doing bad?
Do you even understand what the hell you're talking about?
The issue is that the black community is over run with poverty, dependence, drug use and violence. This has been the result of 40 years of Democratic policies that only increase the factors that cause all those conditions. Some of us want to see the black community do better by changing or eliminating those prorgams. We believe blacks can compete with whites on equal basis for education and jobs and opinions to the contrary are racist and unproductive.
The facts are the facts. Blacks are grossly over represented in gov't welfare rolls of whatever type, prison populations, and murders both as victim and perp. That has to stop. The first step is figuring out what the problem is. It isnt genetic. Blacks from the Caribbean who come here do far better than American born blacks. It is cultural. And we must change that culture.
Who is "they"? What "culture"? All I hear is a bunch of people from all groups "whine" about each other. Judging from your post, you seem to be WHINING yourself.And as bad as it sounds? THEY have no clue how fortunate they are to be born here...and change their culture. Instead? We get excuses...and anger. It sits right in front of them...and ALL they do and their leaders do is WHINE.Thank you for your answer. So that means that the majority (75%) of the Black population is not on government assistance. I would also venture to state that the majority (75%) is not in poverty. That's why I ask people when they criticize "the Blacks","why define the majority of "the Blacks", by the minority of the Blacks?". If 25% percent of your group was not doing well, and I claim that my ideology believes in the INDIVIDUAL, would it be fair to make a generalization that includes you and the majority of your people that aren't doing bad?
Do you even understand what the hell you're talking about?
The issue is that the black community is over run with poverty, dependence, drug use and violence. This has been the result of 40 years of Democratic policies that only increase the factors that cause all those conditions. Some of us want to see the black community do better by changing or eliminating those prorgams. We believe blacks can compete with whites on equal basis for education and jobs and opinions to the contrary are racist and unproductive.
The facts are the facts. Blacks are grossly over represented in gov't welfare rolls of whatever type, prison populations, and murders both as victim and perp. That has to stop. The first step is figuring out what the problem is. It isnt genetic. Blacks from the Caribbean who come here do far better than American born blacks. It is cultural. And we must change that culture.
*I* have ZERO sympathy.
Removing government support will do little to solve the problem because most of the people receiving welfare have jobs already. They just do not pay enough to support the family. Taking away government support does not make these jobs pay any more and does not qualify the workers for better jobs. The result of eliminating government support would not produce more workers but rather 3rd world poverty in the US.Getting back to the topic of this thread, dependency on government has definitely hurt blacks as well as whites who have refused to pursue jobs as a means of paying for their own support.
Government dependency is the lowest common denominator and they will continue to fuss that they are poor and need more. But it is their own choice to be on the government's tit so I have no solace for them, just disdain.
what percentage is that?
25%
Thank you for your answer. So that means that the majority (75%) of the Black population is not on government assistance. I would also venture to state that the majority (75%) is not in poverty. That's why I ask people when they criticize "the Blacks","why define the majority of "the Blacks", by the minority of the Blacks?". If 25% percent of your group was not doing well, and I claim that my ideology believes in the INDIVIDUAL, would it be fair to make a generalization that includes you and the majority of your people that aren't doing bad?
