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I was pretty clear that No the 3rd ammendment wouldn't apply. The 4th might. But not the 3rd. The 3rd is pretty specific.
Scott Lupton, the general manager of the Manassas Buffalo Wild Wings location, sent an email to LaClair, apologizing for any confusion caused by the incident, which he calls a huge misunderstanding.
End of story.
Wherever I worked..whether it was my own shops or for someone else...cops, sheriffs, CHP...always got HUGE discounts on goods and/or free coffee, fries, burgers, etc. if they were in uniform. Creaky leather holsters, walkies on their shoulders...the whole shebang. And in my shops, I left orders for my employees if an officer came in...they get 50 per cent off (antique store), IF in uniform. Same with soldiers.
But I am retired now, so....doesn't matter what I did. But I wanted THEM to know I appreciate them.
I was pretty clear that No the 3rd ammendment wouldn't apply. The 4th might. But not the 3rd. The 3rd is pretty specific.
Let's break this down to a single question (and then evolve the situation with a more complex question after each iteration):
If the police were ordered (by the local or state government) to live on your property, but to neither search nor seize any of your possessions or property, would the Third Amendment be applicable to remove them from your property?
You have the right to deny "Soldiers" the right to remain on your property. A police officer is considered an "agent of the state," from Griswold vs Connecticut (right to privacy), and the 14th Amendment applies the 3rd Amendment to the State and local governments.
I think he is right. The police are classified as a paramilitary organization, not an army. The 3rd applies to the standing federal army.
I was pretty clear that No the 3rd ammendment wouldn't apply. The 4th might. But not the 3rd. The 3rd is pretty specific.
Let's break this down to a single question (and then evolve the situation with a more complex question after each iteration):
If the police were ordered (by the local or state government) to live on your property, but to neither search nor seize any of your possessions or property, would the Third Amendment be applicable to remove them from your property?
No. Because the police are not soldiers. I don't know why this is difficult to understand.
I was pretty clear that No the 3rd ammendment wouldn't apply. The 4th might. But not the 3rd. The 3rd is pretty specific.
Let's break this down to a single question (and then evolve the situation with a more complex question after each iteration):
If the police were ordered (by the local or state government) to live on your property, but to neither search nor seize any of your possessions or property, would the Third Amendment be applicable to remove them from your property?
No. Because the police are not soldiers. I don't know why this is difficult to understand.
The Fourth amendment would apply since the police are not allowed on your property without a warrant and without permission regardless of what their reason is.
The 3rd amendment applies to soldiers being quartered on private property agains the owners will. That's all.
I have no clue why you think my response is going to change when the text of the 3rd amendment hasnt.
So the company has a double standard.
If you are a citizen, you may NEVER bring your gun into their place.
but if your a cop
well that's just different
Buffalo wild wings will never see my face again.
Did you read the link or do you have short term memory issues?
So the company has a double standard.
If you are a citizen, you may NEVER bring your gun into their place.
but if your a cop
well that's just different
Buffalo wild wings will never see my face again.
Thats right. You are not a cop. Cops....well, are cops. Cops also have blue lights and sirens on their cars, and you dont. Cops can do a lot of things you cant due to their job and the specifics that come with it.
Dont like it? Go be a cop. Hear starting pay is 30K and you might even get shot on duty!
Did you read the link or do you have short term memory issues?So the company has a double standard.
If you are a citizen, you may NEVER bring your gun into their place.
but if your a cop
well that's just different
Buffalo wild wings will never see my face again.
Thats right. You are not a cop. Cops....well, are cops. Cops also have blue lights and sirens on their cars, and you dont. Cops can do a lot of things you cant due to their job and the specifics that come with it.
Dont like it? Go be a cop. Hear starting pay is 30K and you might even get shot on duty!
They were off duty, and therefore no special rights apply to them.
Of course your to fucking dumb to understand my initial point of the stewpudity of the anti-gun rule.
Did you read the link or do you have short term memory issues?Thats right. You are not a cop. Cops....well, are cops. Cops also have blue lights and sirens on their cars, and you dont. Cops can do a lot of things you cant due to their job and the specifics that come with it.
Dont like it? Go be a cop. Hear starting pay is 30K and you might even get shot on duty!
They were off duty, and therefore no special rights apply to them.
Of course your to fucking dumb to understand my initial point of the stewpudity of the anti-gun rule.
Cops are never "off duty". If they have their ID, badge and gun, then they have 100% of the same authority as if they were on-duty.
I dont find the rule stupid at all.
Buffalo Wild Wings doesnt want random, untrained rednecks or thugs toting guns into their business.
However, if cops (on or off duty) come in, not only does that provide some protection, but they know the cops are trained with those guns, they are not just random yahoos with pistols.
I know the right wing is on a radical jihad of hatred for any and all government employees. But, you'll never change the fact that cops and military people get a few special perks that the rest of us dont. You dont like that, go sign up for their job.
You can make a case that the Police officers were unfairly treated but you have to consider that they were behaving badly by flashing their weapons while they were in plain clothes. The weather is cool and there is no excuse to run around with a weapon showing.
