8 Things Women Couldn't Do On The First Women's Equality Day In 1971 -- And 6 They Still Can't

[JT8691]

8 Things Women Couldn't Do In 1971...

1. Get credit cards in their own names.
The Equal Credit Opportunity Act of 1974 gave women that right. The law forced credit card companies to issue cards to women without a husband's signature.

2. Legally get an abortion.
The seminal Supreme Court decision on Roe v. Wade, which protected a woman's right to choose, didn't happen until 1973.

3. Access the morning after pill.
The FDA first approved emergency contraception in 1998, and the morning after pill became available over the counter just last year, in 2013.

4. Be guaranteed they wouldn't be fired for getting pregnant.
The Pregnancy Discrimination Act of 1978 added an amendment to the Civil Rights Act of 1964, specificyng that employers could not discriminate "on the basis of pregnancy, childbirth, or related medical conditions."

5. Marry another woman.
Massachusetts became the first U.S. state to legalize same-sex marriage in 2004. Love is love is love.

6. Fight on the front lines.
Women were first admitted into military academies in 1976. And in 2013, the military ban on women in combat (tied to a Pentagon rule from 1994) was lifted by Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta.

7. Take legal action against workplace sexual harassment.
According to The Week, the first time a court recognized office sexual harassment as grounds for legal action was in 1977.

8. Decide not to have sex if their husbands wanted to.
Spousal rape wasn't criminalized in all 50 states until 1993.

6 Things Women Still Can't Do In 2014...

1. Receive equal pay for equal work.
Yes, the gender wage gap still exists. Just ask Joan Halloway.

2. Name a female president.
We're still waiting for the first...

3. Marry another woman in any of the 50 states one chooses to live in.
Since 1971 the tide of public opinion on marriage equality has turned -- same-sex marriage is now legal in 19 states and Washington, D.C. -- but there are still 31 that ban gay marriage, 28 through constitutional amendments.

4. Necessarily access an abortion.
Despite the fact that it is legal for women to terminate their pregnancies in the U.S., states have been enacting more and more restrictions around the procedure and making it harder for clinics to perform it. In July, the Washington Post reported that more than half of Texas' abortion clinics have shut down since newly-restrictive legislation passed last year. And according to NARAL, abortion restrictions disproportionately impact young women and poor women.

5. Be guaranteed paid maternity leave.
Pour another one out for American exceptionalism. The United States is the only developed country that does not guarantee new mothers paid leave. (A devastatingly small percentage of U.S. companies -- 16 percent -- offer fully paid maternity leave.)

6. Be sure their health insurance will cover contraception.
Despite an Obamacare mandate, demanding that employers that are not religious institutions or houses of worship fully cover birth control, some insurers are refusing to do so. (And of course, the Hobby Lobby case gave some for-profit employers exemption from covering contraception.)

8 Things Women Couldn t Do On The First Women s Equality Day In 1971 -- And 6 They Still Can t

Women have come a long way - but they're not there yet. Democrats seem much more willing to help advance women's rights than Republicans. Women should pay very careful attention to which candidates and representatives best support their rights.

1. I agree to an extent. It IS getting better, I don't think anybody can deny that. But yes women should be paid the same amount as men as long as that's the only difference (their gender).

2. Women make up more than half of the population. Women CAN vote. I don't think it's fair to blame the lack of a woman president solely on men.

3. Men can't either. This isn't unique to females.

4. Women tend to be more pro-life than men do (fact-go do your research). Also the babys are both male and female that are being aborted. Those babies don't have access to something more much vital than abortions--life.

5. Women aren't forced to take specific jobs. If a woman takes a job and is denied paid maternity leave after being informed that they could take it-that's an issue. But you knowingly take a job. You know what the policies are at that job. You willingly have a child (remember if it's a "choice" woman don't have to keep the baby).

Men don't get paid leave. What if the mother dies during childbirth? Why aren't you up in arms that the father doesn't get paid leave? Are mothers the only parent to a child?

6. I do believe in access to contraception. I agree.


But men also do have their disadvantages in society (albeit not as many):

Try finding a baby changing station in men's bathrooms. They're not there many times. Are they trying to say that fathers don't take care of their babies?

Why does the mother usually automatically get the child during custody cases?

Why do women tend to get more alimony than men do?

Why aren't women executed as much as men for the same crimes?

Why do women who molest young boys get off easier than men who molest young girls?

I'm not suggesting that men have it worse than women. I'm just saying that let's keep an open mind. Things are completely one-sided.

 

[rightwinger]

This thread never was anything more than an extension of "If you disagree with Obama, it's because you're a racist"

Who said that?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Necessarily access an abortion.

This is among the more egregious examples of conservative authoritarianism, the right's hostility toward the privacy rights of women.


For more than 40 years, exhibiting blatant contempt for the Constitution and its case law, republican lawmakers have sought to afford the state the authority to compel a woman to have a child against her will, to completely disregard her right to individual liberty, allowing the state to interfere with the personal, private matters of free and private citizens.

That is a question of "when does life begin" not of "does a woman have a right to do with her body as she chooses"

How dishonest that you would pretend otherwise.

A simple law stating unequivocally when life begins for legal purposes would solve everything. Yet neither Democrats nor Republicans have passed such a law.

There are several problems with your statements.

It's not about when life begins. The supreme court ruled on the right to privacy. Women have the right to privately talk to their doctor and have medical procedures without the government or anyone else being involved or knowing about it. We have further enacted laws to protect people's privacy in medical situations. The HIPPA law is one of them.

If you want to follow the laws and constitution then you should not believe that you or anyone else has the right to invade a woman's privacy.

You may believe that life begins at conception. That's well and fine for you. No one should ever tell you that you have to believe otherwise.

In the same respect, I have the same right to not believe that life begins at conception.

Please tell me what life exists in an ectopic pregnancy?

Millions of people in this world don't believe as you do and we have that right to believe as we choose just like you do.

So why not be happy to live freely as you choose? Why do you have to force your beliefs on everyone else?

If I have the right to believe that life begins at conception, do I not then have the right to pursue policy that protects that life? Should I instead just say, "I believe this is a life, but your privacy is obviously much more important than protecting that life, so go ahead and do anything you want to because it is 'private.'"

Is that what you are trying to say?

No it's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying that you have the freedom and right to believe and live your life as you choose. If you believe that life begins at conception then for heaven's sake you should never ever get an abortion. I personally would take you to the OB appointments and be in the hospital every minute until that new life enters this world. Then I would celebrate your new life.

However, you don't have the right to force other people to believe that and live that way.

You don't have the right to take that freedom from anyone else.

That's what I'm saying.

Freedom. It's not just for those who agree with you.

here's the rub..This has nothing to do with one's feelings or beliefs.
It is unfortunate that this issue has turned so emotional. Because it isn't.
Let's be clear here. No one is going to take away the right to terminate a pregnancy. We're past that now. so there is no sense in discussing the issue.
And trying to silence those with differing points of view does not do your cause any good.
Just as you expect others to respect your point of view, you must respect the the views of others. No matter how strongly you disagree.
And be advised, you cannot sit there and state that just because one has an opinion with which you agree, they are trying to compel you to agree.
That juts does not wash.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

This thread never was anything more than an extension of "If you disagree with Obama, it's because you're a racist"

Who said that?

Several, several, several have said it. YOU personally may not believe it, but if you aren't honest enough to admit that yes many liberals have implied and even said that then I see no need for us to discuss further. I am here for HONEST debate. The sky is blue sir, if I posted that would you ask me to prove it? Come on now.

 

[Lakhota]

Being pro-birth is not the same as being pro-life.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Men have it made regarding Viagra, penis pumps, and other erectile dysfunction products. However, women are constantly being denied abortion and contraception rights. Male and female insurance coverage is not EQUAL - even when it's supposed to be part of their overall compensation package. Then comes the religious lunacy to make it even more UNEQUAL.

Perhaps because Viagra, Penis Pumps, and other erectile dysfunction products are there to correct a medical problem. Abortion on Demand and contraceptives do not correct health problems.

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There isn't enough space in this reply box to list all the ways you're wrong.

No one will die of men can't have sex. It's not a health problem that a man can't live with or that will kill him. If you can't have sex, then pay for your own insurance or devices that make you able to have sex.

I would be dead today without the pill. There is a condition, endometriosis and severe ovarian cysts that I have. That's where the lining of the uterus comes out in big clumps, the woman is in severe pain and the woman bleeds for weeks. Ovarian cysts are growths on the ovaries that are extremely painful and that will kill the woman if they rupture and she doesn't get to a hospital immediately.

I nearly died once because of ruptured cysts.

The standard medication for those conditions is the pill. And not just any pill will do. There are many types and strengths of contraceptive pills out there and the one that I had to take for those conditions wasn't cheap. In fact it was over a hundred dollars a month to buy those pills.

Men won't die if they can't have sex. Some women will die or be left infertile without the pill.

As for abortion on demand, yes it can prevent a health problem including death.

My cousin's wife is a very good example of that. She was in the middle of the 3rd trimester of a very planned and wanted pregnancy. The cord got wrapped around the neck of the fetus and it basically died. In that it was probably brain dead and there was a faint heartbeat. She had a late term abortion to save her life.

If she had not had that abortion, peritonitis would have set in and killed her. Or she would have been lucky and left infertile. Their 2 children who were born years later would have never been born.

I just want to know what life there is in an ectopic pregnancy? That pregnancy is very much a health problem with only 2 possible outcomes.

1. The woman has an abortion and lives.
2. The woman dies without the abortion.

Please learn something about the pill. It's not just for contraception. Abortions save lives. No woman should die just because her pregnancy goes wrong.

My question to you is why can't you be happy with the freedom you have to live your life as you choose? Why do you need to take other people's freedom from them and force them to live as you want them to live?

And by LAW if your doctor prescribes the pill to you your insurance company MUST cover it. Do you fucking get that?

I posted the law in this thread. It's not even up for debate. So the idea that ANYONE is trying to keep you form having access to the pill is ludicrous and dishonest.

If you have insurance now. Not all women have insurance now.

When I went through that nightmare it wasn't required by law for everyone and only for medical purposes.

When I was in my early 20s I worked jobs that didn't provide health insurance and I wasn't paid enough to pay for it myself. After I was diagnosed with those conditions, no private insurance would cover me because of that preexisting condition. I went though hell just to find a doctor who would actually see me. Since I didn't have insurance and the condition I had they didn't want a malpractice suit.

I nearly died because I couldn't afford the pills and I played russian roulette with my health. Like so many did before Obamacare and so many still do in many states that didn't expand medicare or set up their own exchange.

Today there are women without insurance who can't afford the pills that will save their lives. Too many states have closed down clinics using the excuse of abortion that now many women in some states no longer have access to medication that will save their lives.

Dana7360, thank you most sincerely for your input on this thread. I wish you well.

Thank you for your very nice post.

I just wish that people would understand this isn't a one size fits all situation. No two human beings are exactly alike in every way.

I also wish people would see that while they have the right to believe what they want, so does everyone else.

I also would love to know why they think they can take other people's freedom from them. While screaming about their own freedom at the same time.

One size fits all. Glad you brought that up.
it is liberal law and order that has given us these zero tolerance rules in public schools.
And of course a whioe host of other nonsense tied up in political correctness.
Liberalism has turned many of us into a bunch of whiny hypersensitive douche bags who go through their mundane lives looking for things with which to bother themselves

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Dana believes people have a right to decide for themselves when life legally begins.

That is scary. What's next ? Drunks have the right to decide the BAC limit for themselves? Can we all set our own personal speed limits now?

 

[Lakhota]

Dana believes people have a right to decide for themselves when life legally begins.

That is scary. What's next ? Drunks have the right to decide the BAC limit for themselves? Can we all set our own personal speed limits now?

Dana believes she has the right to control her own body. I agree.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Dana believes people have a right to decide for themselves when life legally begins.

That is scary. What's next ? Drunks have the right to decide the BAC limit for themselves? Can we all set our own personal speed limits now?

Dana believes she has the right to control her own body. I agree.

That isn't what we were discussing troll.

Dana explicitly said she has a right to her opinion of when life starts , and that is incorrect, the LAW supersedes your opinion, my opinion, her opinion.

If it didn't then all these drunks who blow a .15 and declare they are fine to drive could just walk away scot free with a "its my body, my opinion" defense

 

[PredFan]

Anyone who tries to stifle women's rights has a neanderthal TeaTard mentality.

Anyone who makes a statement like this is an idiot and a joke, not to be taken seriously.

 

[Lakhota]

Anyone who tries to stifle women's rights has a neanderthal TeaTard mentality.

Anyone who makes a statement like this is an idiot and a joke, not to be taken seriously.

Are you also a God-fearing Bible thumper?

 

[Rikurzhen]

When will women have total equality with men? When Republican men can get pregnant.

You still haven't given your opinion on how the Obama administration pays women less than men. Why not?

They pay in accordance with Civil Service rules and regulations. Those rules are established by Congress and the President has no authority to bypass them

He must have the authority to do so , else how did he issue an EO stating that no federal contractor could be paid less than $10/Hr?

Also, there are no laws that state that Women who work in the White House must be paid less than men who do

So in EITHER case,your argument is a fail.

He does not have the authority to alter Civil Service rules. All executive branch employees are covered under Civil Service rules established by Congress

Rules that apply to contractors seeking a Government Contract can be altered by the President. If a prospective contractor does not like them, he does not have to bid

There are no rules in Civil Service saying "women must be paid less than men". But Civil Service rules relating to time in grade and the grades assigned to positions can affect women differently than men

If Republicans are outraged by male/female pay disparity in the Civil Service, they are welcome to change the rules......I doubt if they will attempt

Explain that.Because it's BS. Unless you're saying the Obama Administration is purposely not promoting women so that they don't have to pay them as much.

Much of your pay is established by longevity. Time in grade moves you up the Civil Service payscale. Women are more likely to enter the workforce after having children or to leave for a few years while they raise children and then return. This affects their time in grade and resulting pay

To show you what a big hearted and compassionate guy I am, I'll lend my support to efforts do abolish this system of personnel management in the Civil Service. Time to institute merit promotions which are gender and reace blind. Let the most qualified and productive person win the promotion. This way women are not at a disadvantage.

Let's fire all civil servants, like Saint Reagan did with the Air Traffic Controllers and start afresh - Merit Über Alles. Solves the problem for women, right?

 

[Avatar4321]

Which political party tries hardest to limit/regulate/stifle female reproductive rights by undermining Roe v. Wade? Hint: it ain't Democrats.

you still don't have a right to kill your children.

and quite frankly I don't believe that all women want to kill their children. Most women I know oppose it

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Anyone who tries to stifle women's rights has a neanderthal TeaTard mentality.

Anyone who makes a statement like this is an idiot and a joke, not to be taken seriously.

Are you also a God-fearing Bible thumper?

Are you a nasty, vile, lying, racist, hateful troll?

Don't answer , it's a rhetorical question. The answer obviously is yes.

 

[Rikurzhen]

There is no war on women.

The majority of white women voted for Republicans. The majority of married women voted for Republicans.

It seems it's the "Independent" women, those who choose to marry the government rather than a man, who are the big supporters of the Democrats.

 

[Rikurzhen]

Necessarily access an abortion.

This is among the more egregious examples of conservative authoritarianism, the right's hostility toward the privacy rights of women.


For more than 40 years, exhibiting blatant contempt for the Constitution and its case law, republican lawmakers have sought to afford the state the authority to compel a woman to have a child against her will, to completely disregard her right to individual liberty, allowing the state to interfere with the personal, private matters of free and private citizens.

That is a question of "when does life begin" not of "does a woman have a right to do with her body as she chooses"

How dishonest that you would pretend otherwise.

A simple law stating unequivocally when life begins for legal purposes would solve everything. Yet neither Democrats nor Republicans have passed such a law.

There are several problems with your statements.

It's not about when life begins. The supreme court ruled on the right to privacy. Women have the right to privately talk to their doctor and have medical procedures without the government or anyone else being involved or knowing about it. We have further enacted laws to protect people's privacy in medical situations. The HIPPA law is one of them.

If you want to follow the laws and constitution then you should not believe that you or anyone else has the right to invade a woman's privacy.

You may believe that life begins at conception. That's well and fine for you. No one should ever tell you that you have to believe otherwise.

In the same respect, I have the same right to not believe that life begins at conception.

Please tell me what life exists in an ectopic pregnancy?

Millions of people in this world don't believe as you do and we have that right to believe as we choose just like you do.

So why not be happy to live freely as you choose? Why do you have to force your beliefs on everyone else?

If I have the right to believe that life begins at conception, do I not then have the right to pursue policy that protects that life? Should I instead just say, "I believe this is a life, but your privacy is obviously much more important than protecting that life, so go ahead and do anything you want to because it is 'private.'"

Is that what you are trying to say?

No it's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying that you have the freedom and right to believe and live your life as you choose. If you believe that life begins at conception then for heaven's sake you should never ever get an abortion. I personally would take you to the OB appointments and be in the hospital every minute until that new life enters this world. Then I would celebrate your new life.

However, you don't have the right to force other people to believe that and live that way.

You don't have the right to take that freedom from anyone else.

That's what I'm saying.

Freedom. It's not just for those who agree with you.

How about if I believe like Obama - that life begins 24 hours AFTER birth? Can I kill the baby and not be charged with murder if I claim as my defense "Don't impose your beliefs on me!!11!!!!!!!!"

 

[Lakhota]

Roe v. Wade is the law of the land. What's wrong with that? NaziCon anti-choicers don't have the political muscle to overturn it - so they sneak through the back door to undermine it.

 

[Avatar4321]

Which political party tries hardest to limit/regulate/stifle female reproductive rights by undermining Roe v. Wade? Hint: it ain't Democrats.

There is a legitimate fundamental difference that you are ignoring. Millions of women agree that abortion kills a living human being and that it is not a reproductive rights issue.

Millions more disagree! What about the financial/mental/physical health of pregnant women? Righties don't seem to give a shit about that - or after a child is born. Why is that? Righties act like a pregnant woman is just an expendable incubator.

righties don't care about the health of pregnant women or the child? Because we don't kill the children? Are you freaking serious? And because we actually take care of our wives while they are pregnant instead of running away from responsibility?

how the heck does killing a child help take care of a pregnant woman?

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Roe v. Wade is the law of the land. What's wrong with that? NaziCon anti-choicers don't have the political muscle to overturn it - so they sneak through the back door to undermine it.

Roe V Wade does not set any limit on at what point a fetus becomes life. Jesus Christ.

Do you ever think ANYTHING you type through?

If laws were absolute then you couldn't touch the right to bear arms with a 10 ' pole, yet you fully support abridging gun rights.....

Oh also how come you didn't address the 8 things women can do that men can't?

Also, how come you never listed the people in this thread who you claimed were for violating women's rights?

 

[Lakhota]

Which political party tries hardest to limit/regulate/stifle female reproductive rights by undermining Roe v. Wade? Hint: it ain't Democrats.

There is a legitimate fundamental difference that you are ignoring. Millions of women agree that abortion kills a living human being and that it is not a reproductive rights issue.

Millions more disagree! What about the financial/mental/physical health of pregnant women? Righties don't seem to give a shit about that - or after a child is born. Why is that? Righties act like a pregnant woman is just an expendable incubator.

righties don't care about the health of pregnant women or the child? Because we don't kill the children? Are you freaking serious? And because we actually take care of our wives while they are pregnant instead of running away from responsibility?

how the heck does killing a child help take care of a pregnant woman?

You mean fetus. And how would you know about the financial/mental/physical health of pregnant women seeking an abortion without knowing them personally?