8 Things Women Couldn't Do On The First Women's Equality Day In 1971 -- And 6 They Still Can't

[RKMBrown]

8 Things Women Couldn't Do In 1971...

1. Get credit cards in their own names.
The Equal Credit Opportunity Act of 1974 gave women that right. The law forced credit card companies to issue cards to women without a husband's signature.

2. Legally get an abortion.
The seminal Supreme Court decision on Roe v. Wade, which protected a woman's right to choose, didn't happen until 1973.

3. Access the morning after pill.
The FDA first approved emergency contraception in 1998, and the morning after pill became available over the counter just last year, in 2013.

4. Be guaranteed they wouldn't be fired for getting pregnant.
The Pregnancy Discrimination Act of 1978 added an amendment to the Civil Rights Act of 1964, specificyng that employers could not discriminate "on the basis of pregnancy, childbirth, or related medical conditions."

5. Marry another woman.
Massachusetts became the first U.S. state to legalize same-sex marriage in 2004. Love is love is love.

6. Fight on the front lines.
Women were first admitted into military academies in 1976. And in 2013, the military ban on women in combat (tied to a Pentagon rule from 1994) was lifted by Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta.

7. Take legal action against workplace sexual harassment.
According to The Week, the first time a court recognized office sexual harassment as grounds for legal action was in 1977.

8. Decide not to have sex if their husbands wanted to.
Spousal rape wasn't criminalized in all 50 states until 1993.

6 Things Women Still Can't Do In 2014...

1. Receive equal pay for equal work.
Yes, the gender wage gap still exists. Just ask Joan Halloway.

2. Name a female president.
We're still waiting for the first...

3. Marry another woman in any of the 50 states one chooses to live in.
Since 1971 the tide of public opinion on marriage equality has turned -- same-sex marriage is now legal in 19 states and Washington, D.C. -- but there are still 31 that ban gay marriage, 28 through constitutional amendments.

4. Necessarily access an abortion.
Despite the fact that it is legal for women to terminate their pregnancies in the U.S., states have been enacting more and more restrictions around the procedure and making it harder for clinics to perform it. In July, the Washington Post reported that more than half of Texas' abortion clinics have shut down since newly-restrictive legislation passed last year. And according to NARAL, abortion restrictions disproportionately impact young women and poor women.

5. Be guaranteed paid maternity leave.
Pour another one out for American exceptionalism. The United States is the only developed country that does not guarantee new mothers paid leave. (A devastatingly small percentage of U.S. companies -- 16 percent -- offer fully paid maternity leave.)

6. Be sure their health insurance will cover contraception.
Despite an Obamacare mandate, demanding that employers that are not religious institutions or houses of worship fully cover birth control, some insurers are refusing to do so. (And of course, the Hobby Lobby case gave some for-profit employers exemption from covering contraception.)

8 Things Women Couldn t Do On The First Women s Equality Day In 1971 -- And 6 They Still Can t

Women have come a long way - but they're not there yet. Democrats seem much more willing to help advance women's rights than Republicans. Women should pay very careful attention to which candidates and representatives best support their rights.

Quoted for Stupidity.

 

[Lakhota]

Why do Republicans hate Planned Parenthood?

Planned Parenthood Federation of America

GOP War on Women and Planned Parenthood Continues

House GOP Declares War on Planned Parenthood

Probably because it was founded to decimate the minority population.

What it was and what it is are two different things. The KKK used to be Democrats. Shit happens. Things change. People evolve (most of them).

 

[RKMBrown]

Why do Republicans hate Planned Parenthood?

Planned Parenthood Federation of America

GOP War on Women and Planned Parenthood Continues

House GOP Declares War on Planned Parenthood

Probably because it was founded to decimate the minority population.

What it was and what it is are two different things. The KKK used to be Democrats. Shit happens. Things change.

Why is it that some women are proud of paying doctors to kill innocent defenseless young children? One thing women can't do now? They can't live if their mother decides they would be to much of a burden to carry to term.

 

[Lakhota]

Why do Republicans hate Planned Parenthood?

Planned Parenthood Federation of America

GOP War on Women and Planned Parenthood Continues

House GOP Declares War on Planned Parenthood

Probably because it was founded to decimate the minority population.

What it was and what it is are two different things. The KKK used to be Democrats. Shit happens. Things change.

Why is it that some women are proud of paying doctors to kill innocent defenseless young children? One thing women can't do now? They can't live if their mother decides they would be to much of a burden to carry to term.

Typical NaziCon bullshit. You don't give a shit about the financial/mental/physical health of pregnant women. They're just an incubator. Their lives are disposable. God bless the fetus - until it's born. Then, fuck the baby.

 

[Dana7360]

Which political party tries hardest to limit/regulate/stifle female reproductive rights by undermining Roe v. Wade? Hint: it ain't Democrats.

There is a legitimate fundamental difference that you are ignoring. Millions of women agree that abortion kills a living human being and that it is not a reproductive rights issue.

Millions more disagree! What about the financial/mental/physical health of pregnant women? Righties don't seem to give a shit about that - or after a child is born. Why is that? Righties act like a pregnant woman is just an expendable incubator.

The point remains that abortion is not universally regarded as a reproductive rights issue. You may not like what people think, but it doesn't change what they think as regards the law.

Think it all you want.

Just don't force anyone else to agree with you.

That's what you're doing when you deny voters the right to oppose abortion mills in their neighborhoods.

When did I deny voters the right to oppose abortion clinics?

People have a right to regulate what sorts of businesses are in their area. That's what zoning laws are.

As long as the business follows the law, no one has the right to prevent them from being there.

However you're forcing your beliefs on people when you advocate and support laws banning abortion. You're forcing your beliefs on people when you advocate closing legal clinics that perform abortions or offer family planning.

 

[RKMBrown]

Why do Republicans hate Planned Parenthood?

Planned Parenthood Federation of America

GOP War on Women and Planned Parenthood Continues

House GOP Declares War on Planned Parenthood

Probably because it was founded to decimate the minority population.

What it was and what it is are two different things. The KKK used to be Democrats. Shit happens. Things change.

Why is it that some women are proud of paying doctors to kill innocent defenseless young children? One thing women can't do now? They can't live if their mother decides they would be to much of a burden to carry to term.

Typical NaziCon bullshit.

Yeah cause defending children from a murder rampage by a bile spewing wench such as yourself is the same as burning jews in ovens...

You don't give a shit about the financial/mental/physical health of pregnant women.

Yeah cause defending children from a murder rampage by a bile spewing wench such as yourself is the same as not giving a shit about the financial/mental/physical health of pregnant women...

They're just an incubator.

Yeah cause carrying a baby to term for a very small fraction of a woman's life is the same as the woman being forced to be an incubator...

Their lives are disposable.

Yeah cause carrying a baby to term is the same as disposing the life of the mother...

God bless the fetus - until it's born. Then, fuck the baby.

Yeah cause defending children from a murder rampage by a bile spewing wench such as yourself is the same as "fucking the baby..."

You're sick.

 

[rightwinger]

Why do Republicans hate Planned Parenthood?

Planned Parenthood Federation of America

GOP War on Women and Planned Parenthood Continues

House GOP Declares War on Planned Parenthood

Planned parenthood has prevented more abortions than republicans ever have

 

[thereisnospoon]

Men have it made regarding Viagra, penis pumps, and other erectile dysfunction products. However, women are constantly being denied abortion and contraception rights. Male and female insurance coverage is not EQUAL - even when it's supposed to be part of their overall compensation package. Then comes the religious lunacy to make it even more UNEQUAL.

Perhaps because Viagra, Penis Pumps, and other erectile dysfunction products are there to correct a medical problem. Abortion on Demand and contraceptives do not correct health problems.

O

There isn't enough space in this reply box to list all the ways you're wrong.

No one will die of men can't have sex. It's not a health problem that a man can't live with or that will kill him. If you can't have sex, then pay for your own insurance or devices that make you able to have sex.

I would be dead today without the pill. There is a condition, endometriosis and severe ovarian cysts that I have. That's where the lining of the uterus comes out in big clumps, the woman is in severe pain and the woman bleeds for weeks. Ovarian cysts are growths on the ovaries that are extremely painful and that will kill the woman if they rupture and she doesn't get to a hospital immediately.

I nearly died once because of ruptured cysts.

The standard medication for those conditions is the pill. And not just any pill will do. There are many types and strengths of contraceptive pills out there and the one that I had to take for those conditions wasn't cheap. In fact it was over a hundred dollars a month to buy those pills.

Men won't die if they can't have sex. Some women will die or be left infertile without the pill.

As for abortion on demand, yes it can prevent a health problem including death.

My cousin's wife is a very good example of that. She was in the middle of the 3rd trimester of a very planned and wanted pregnancy. The cord got wrapped around the neck of the fetus and it basically died. In that it was probably brain dead and there was a faint heartbeat. She had a late term abortion to save her life.

If she had not had that abortion, peritonitis would have set in and killed her. Or she would have been lucky and left infertile. Their 2 children who were born years later would have never been born.

I just want to know what life there is in an ectopic pregnancy? That pregnancy is very much a health problem with only 2 possible outcomes.

1. The woman has an abortion and lives.
2. The woman dies without the abortion.

Please learn something about the pill. It's not just for contraception. Abortions save lives. No woman should die just because her pregnancy goes wrong.

My question to you is why can't you be happy with the freedom you have to live your life as you choose? Why do you need to take other people's freedom from them and force them to live as you want them to live?

Yeah yeah yeah.....That is not the issue here.
It is my understanding that if a medical diagnosis is performed by a physician for which he prescribes Estrogen( The pill) it can be covered under a health insurance policy.
My point, the one that the libs on here keep battling against is that this issue has been taken over by left wing feminists who are concerned ONLY with "reproductive freedom".

 

[thereisnospoon]

Men have it made regarding Viagra, penis pumps, and other erectile dysfunction products. However, women are constantly being denied abortion and contraception rights. Male and female insurance coverage is not EQUAL - even when it's supposed to be part of their overall compensation package. Then comes the religious lunacy to make it even more UNEQUAL.

Perhaps because Viagra, Penis Pumps, and other erectile dysfunction products are there to correct a medical problem. Abortion on Demand and contraceptives do not correct health problems.

O

There isn't enough space in this reply box to list all the ways you're wrong.

No one will die of men can't have sex. It's not a health problem that a man can't live with or that will kill him. If you can't have sex, then pay for your own insurance or devices that make you able to have sex.

I would be dead today without the pill. There is a condition, endometriosis and severe ovarian cysts that I have. That's where the lining of the uterus comes out in big clumps, the woman is in severe pain and the woman bleeds for weeks. Ovarian cysts are growths on the ovaries that are extremely painful and that will kill the woman if they rupture and she doesn't get to a hospital immediately.

I nearly died once because of ruptured cysts.

The standard medication for those conditions is the pill. And not just any pill will do. There are many types and strengths of contraceptive pills out there and the one that I had to take for those conditions wasn't cheap. In fact it was over a hundred dollars a month to buy those pills.

Men won't die if they can't have sex. Some women will die or be left infertile without the pill.

As for abortion on demand, yes it can prevent a health problem including death.

My cousin's wife is a very good example of that. She was in the middle of the 3rd trimester of a very planned and wanted pregnancy. The cord got wrapped around the neck of the fetus and it basically died. In that it was probably brain dead and there was a faint heartbeat. She had a late term abortion to save her life.

If she had not had that abortion, peritonitis would have set in and killed her. Or she would have been lucky and left infertile. Their 2 children who were born years later would have never been born.

I just want to know what life there is in an ectopic pregnancy? That pregnancy is very much a health problem with only 2 possible outcomes.

1. The woman has an abortion and lives.
2. The woman dies without the abortion.

Please learn something about the pill. It's not just for contraception. Abortions save lives. No woman should die just because her pregnancy goes wrong.

My question to you is why can't you be happy with the freedom you have to live your life as you choose? Why do you need to take other people's freedom from them and force them to live as you want them to live?

And by LAW if your doctor prescribes the pill to you your insurance company MUST cover it. Do you fucking get that?

I posted the law in this thread. It's not even up for debate. So the idea that ANYONE is trying to keep you form having access to the pill is ludicrous and dishonest.

So then why are you griping about women having access to contraception with their insurance company paying for it?

Why did you say that the pill and abortion aren't used for a health problems?

Why should penis pumps and viagra for men be covered and the pill not covered for women? Why did you state that women should buy their own contraception and insurance if you have no problem with it?

It's only now that anyone has had any problem with it. I believe it's only because they hate Obamacare.

two entirely separate issues.
If it's simply for birth control, the insurance should not cover it because that is a CHOICE...Plus there are several forms of birth control available that would never be covered by any insurance policy. For example, prophylactics.
If the estrogen treatments are for a MEDICAL reason, then sure. Cover away. No problem.
The issue here is once again the feminist movement's "wanting it all"....Sorry, we don't get to "have it all"..
I just do not see an issue here. Birth control pills are so inexpensive that 99% of insurance policies would have a year's supply fall far under any deductible.
Bottom line here is one does not get to make choices then expect others to cover the expense. And by "others" I mean other policy holders and in the case of those participating in taxpayer funded social programs, the taxpayers.
I am NOT going to fund someone's desire to have unprotected sex with no sense of responsibility or concern for the consequences of those acts.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Men have it made regarding Viagra, penis pumps, and other erectile dysfunction products. However, women are constantly being denied abortion and contraception rights. Male and female insurance coverage is not EQUAL - even when it's supposed to be part of their overall compensation package. Then comes the religious lunacy to make it even more UNEQUAL.

Perhaps because Viagra, Penis Pumps, and other erectile dysfunction products are there to correct a medical problem. Abortion on Demand and contraceptives do not correct health problems.

O

There isn't enough space in this reply box to list all the ways you're wrong.

No one will die of men can't have sex. It's not a health problem that a man can't live with or that will kill him. If you can't have sex, then pay for your own insurance or devices that make you able to have sex.

I would be dead today without the pill. There is a condition, endometriosis and severe ovarian cysts that I have. That's where the lining of the uterus comes out in big clumps, the woman is in severe pain and the woman bleeds for weeks. Ovarian cysts are growths on the ovaries that are extremely painful and that will kill the woman if they rupture and she doesn't get to a hospital immediately.

I nearly died once because of ruptured cysts.

The standard medication for those conditions is the pill. And not just any pill will do. There are many types and strengths of contraceptive pills out there and the one that I had to take for those conditions wasn't cheap. In fact it was over a hundred dollars a month to buy those pills.

Men won't die if they can't have sex. Some women will die or be left infertile without the pill.

As for abortion on demand, yes it can prevent a health problem including death.

My cousin's wife is a very good example of that. She was in the middle of the 3rd trimester of a very planned and wanted pregnancy. The cord got wrapped around the neck of the fetus and it basically died. In that it was probably brain dead and there was a faint heartbeat. She had a late term abortion to save her life.

If she had not had that abortion, peritonitis would have set in and killed her. Or she would have been lucky and left infertile. Their 2 children who were born years later would have never been born.

I just want to know what life there is in an ectopic pregnancy? That pregnancy is very much a health problem with only 2 possible outcomes.

1. The woman has an abortion and lives.
2. The woman dies without the abortion.

Please learn something about the pill. It's not just for contraception. Abortions save lives. No woman should die just because her pregnancy goes wrong.

My question to you is why can't you be happy with the freedom you have to live your life as you choose? Why do you need to take other people's freedom from them and force them to live as you want them to live?

And by LAW if your doctor prescribes the pill to you your insurance company MUST cover it. Do you fucking get that?

I posted the law in this thread. It's not even up for debate. So the idea that ANYONE is trying to keep you form having access to the pill is ludicrous and dishonest.

So then why are you griping about women having access to contraception with their insurance company paying for it?

Why did you say that the pill and abortion aren't used for a health problems?

Why should penis pumps and viagra for men be covered and the pill not covered for women? Why did you state that women should buy their own contraception and insurance if you have no problem with it?

It's only now that anyone has had any problem with it. I believe it's only because they hate Obamacare.

BTW Obama care SUCKS....Just ask anyone who is participating...And BTW, even IF birth control were to be covered under Obamacare, the Pill would not be considered "well care" and therefore the expense would be well under the deductible. So the cost would be out of pocket anyway...
Where's the problem?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Anyone who tries to stifle women's rights has a neanderthal TeaTard mentality.

Insults and name calling are always good ways to support your biased opinions. Continue.

whats funny is when Lakota gets called a name by a "righty".....he will say the same thing to the poster...

 

[thereisnospoon]

And conservatives still trivialize womens rights

The entire list of 6 is horseshit, bullshit and fucking lies!

Here's one thing a woman can't do: Walk by herself on a dark night on a city street. Thank a Liberal!

I sure can walk the city streets at night. Alone. I've done it countless times.

I live in a liberal city and there's no problem with anyone, woman or man, with walking down any city streets at night. It's done every single night of the year here.

Right...Until one day you make the mistake of taking your evening constitutional in the wrong neighborhood.
And please..don't give us this nonsense that you live in some shangrilla city of peace and harmony....
And oh..... the US cities that consistently show up at the top of the heap( most dangerous) in the FBI crime stats are controlled by.......wait for it.....democrats.
Even pink shirt wearing body pierced artsy fartsy Asheville, NC has a bad neighborhood where crime is rampant.
Of course you libs 'pretend' crime doesn't exist as long as it doesn't come crawling across your front lawn.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Which political party tries hardest to limit/regulate/stifle female reproductive rights by undermining Roe v. Wade? Hint: it ain't Democrats.

Umm. Playing mind checkers trying to change the narrative gets you no mileage here.
Still waiting on that list.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Playing Politics with the Pay Gap

Republican Rep. Marsha Blackburn took a page from Democrats when she wrongly claimed that “the White House [is] paying women 88 cents for every dollar that a guy earns in comparable positions.” That’s not true for the same reason Democrats have been wrong when they’ve said women in the U.S. earn 77 cents for every dollar earned by men for doing the same work. Neither is a direct comparison of pay for doing the same job.

Blackburn’s claim was based on an analysis of White House staff members’ pay by the conservative American Enterprise Institute that concluded female staffers earn 88 cents on the dollar compared with men. The analysis, by Mark Perry, an AEI scholar and a professor of economics at the Flint campus of the University of Michigan, looked at salary data from the “2013 Annual Report to Congress on White House Staff.” He found that the 229 women employed in the Obama White House earned a median salary of $65,000 last year, compared with a median salary of nearly $73,729 for the 229 men on the White House staff.

The AEI study didn’t compare wages for similar positions, but the AEI’s Perry told us in an email that Carney is “probably basically correct” when he says the pay for men and women in the same positions with the same experience level is likely the same. As a New York Times graphic on such salaries said, most White House salaries are set by a pay schedule. “So it’s probably a matter of just following a formula based on job title, previous job experience, and maybe level of education,” Perry said.

The New York Times breakdown of the jobs by pay scale shows that women slightly outnumber men in the bottom two income categories, while men slightly outnumber women in the top two. Perry agreed that the pay gap in the White House is “partly/mostly explained” by that graphic. There are simply more women in lower-paying junior positions, and so the median salary lags that of men.

And that is why Blackburn’s comment that “the White House [is] paying women 88 cents for every dollar that a guy earns in comparable positions,” (our emphasis) is incorrect. The comparison is for all jobs, not comparable ones, and men hold more of the upper-level positions.

Playing Politics with the Pay Gap

Another NaziCon myth destroyed.

Obfuscation.....A disconnect from the facts...

 

[thereisnospoon]

Which political party tries hardest to limit/regulate/stifle female reproductive rights by undermining Roe v. Wade? Hint: it ain't Democrats.

There is a legitimate fundamental difference that you are ignoring. Millions of women agree that abortion kills a living human being and that it is not a reproductive rights issue.

Millions more disagree! What about the financial/mental/physical health of pregnant women? Righties don't seem to give a shit about that - or after a child is born. Why is that? Righties act like a pregnant woman is just an expendable incubator.

You don't know that. You made it up.
Still waiting on that list.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Necessarily access an abortion.

This is among the more egregious examples of conservative authoritarianism, the right's hostility toward the privacy rights of women.


For more than 40 years, exhibiting blatant contempt for the Constitution and its case law, republican lawmakers have sought to afford the state the authority to compel a woman to have a child against her will, to completely disregard her right to individual liberty, allowing the state to interfere with the personal, private matters of free and private citizens.

That is a question of "when does life begin" not of "does a woman have a right to do with her body as she chooses"

How dishonest that you would pretend otherwise.

A simple law stating unequivocally when life begins for legal purposes would solve everything. Yet neither Democrats nor Republicans have passed such a law.

There are several problems with your statements.

It's not about when life begins. The supreme court ruled on the right to privacy. Women have the right to privately talk to their doctor and have medical procedures without the government or anyone else being involved or knowing about it. We have further enacted laws to protect people's privacy in medical situations. The HIPPA law is one of them.

If you want to follow the laws and constitution then you should not believe that you or anyone else has the right to invade a woman's privacy.

You may believe that life begins at conception. That's well and fine for you. No one should ever tell you that you have to believe otherwise.

In the same respect, I have the same right to not believe that life begins at conception.

Please tell me what life exists in an ectopic pregnancy?

Millions of people in this world don't believe as you do and we have that right to believe as we choose just like you do.

So why not be happy to live freely as you choose? Why do you have to force your beliefs on everyone else?

Ok...In reading that post here is the conundrum...
The OP has an opinion. You have a differing opinion.
The problem occurs when you decide YOUR opinion is the only one that matters.
And THAT is the problem with the liberal ideology. The belief among liberals that aside form their point of view, there is NO OTHER OPINION......

 

[thereisnospoon]

Men have it made regarding Viagra, penis pumps, and other erectile dysfunction products. However, women are constantly being denied abortion and contraception rights. Male and female insurance coverage is not EQUAL - even when it's supposed to be part of their overall compensation package. Then comes the religious lunacy to make it even more UNEQUAL.

Perhaps because Viagra, Penis Pumps, and other erectile dysfunction products are there to correct a medical problem. Abortion on Demand and contraceptives do not correct health problems.

O

There isn't enough space in this reply box to list all the ways you're wrong.

No one will die of men can't have sex. It's not a health problem that a man can't live with or that will kill him. If you can't have sex, then pay for your own insurance or devices that make you able to have sex.

I would be dead today without the pill. There is a condition, endometriosis and severe ovarian cysts that I have. That's where the lining of the uterus comes out in big clumps, the woman is in severe pain and the woman bleeds for weeks. Ovarian cysts are growths on the ovaries that are extremely painful and that will kill the woman if they rupture and she doesn't get to a hospital immediately.

I nearly died once because of ruptured cysts.

The standard medication for those conditions is the pill. And not just any pill will do. There are many types and strengths of contraceptive pills out there and the one that I had to take for those conditions wasn't cheap. In fact it was over a hundred dollars a month to buy those pills.

Men won't die if they can't have sex. Some women will die or be left infertile without the pill.

As for abortion on demand, yes it can prevent a health problem including death.

My cousin's wife is a very good example of that. She was in the middle of the 3rd trimester of a very planned and wanted pregnancy. The cord got wrapped around the neck of the fetus and it basically died. In that it was probably brain dead and there was a faint heartbeat. She had a late term abortion to save her life.

If she had not had that abortion, peritonitis would have set in and killed her. Or she would have been lucky and left infertile. Their 2 children who were born years later would have never been born.

I just want to know what life there is in an ectopic pregnancy? That pregnancy is very much a health problem with only 2 possible outcomes.

1. The woman has an abortion and lives.
2. The woman dies without the abortion.

Please learn something about the pill. It's not just for contraception. Abortions save lives. No woman should die just because her pregnancy goes wrong.

My question to you is why can't you be happy with the freedom you have to live your life as you choose? Why do you need to take other people's freedom from them and force them to live as you want them to live?

And by LAW if your doctor prescribes the pill to you your insurance company MUST cover it. Do you fucking get that?

I posted the law in this thread. It's not even up for debate. So the idea that ANYONE is trying to keep you form having access to the pill is ludicrous and dishonest.

If you have insurance now. Not all women have insurance now.

When I went through that nightmare it wasn't required by law for everyone and only for medical purposes.

When I was in my early 20s I worked jobs that didn't provide health insurance and I wasn't paid enough to pay for it myself. After I was diagnosed with those conditions, no private insurance would cover me because of that preexisting condition. I went though hell just to find a doctor who would actually see me. Since I didn't have insurance and the condition I had they didn't want a malpractice suit.

I nearly died because I couldn't afford the pills and I played russian roulette with my health. Like so many did before Obamacare and so many still do in many states that didn't expand medicare or set up their own exchange.

Today there are women without insurance who can't afford the pills that will save their lives. Too many states have closed down clinics using the excuse of abortion that now many women in some states no longer have access to medication that will save their lives.

The fact that your insurance plan would not cover estrogen for a medical condition is a tragedy.
I will repeat myself for the nth time....If the Pill is necessary for treatment of a medical condition, then it must be covered by health plans.....

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

This thread never was anything more than an extension of "If you disagree with Obama, it's because you're a racist"

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Men have it made regarding Viagra, penis pumps, and other erectile dysfunction products. However, women are constantly being denied abortion and contraception rights. Male and female insurance coverage is not EQUAL - even when it's supposed to be part of their overall compensation package. Then comes the religious lunacy to make it even more UNEQUAL.

Perhaps because Viagra, Penis Pumps, and other erectile dysfunction products are there to correct a medical problem. Abortion on Demand and contraceptives do not correct health problems.

O

There isn't enough space in this reply box to list all the ways you're wrong.

No one will die of men can't have sex. It's not a health problem that a man can't live with or that will kill him. If you can't have sex, then pay for your own insurance or devices that make you able to have sex.

I would be dead today without the pill. There is a condition, endometriosis and severe ovarian cysts that I have. That's where the lining of the uterus comes out in big clumps, the woman is in severe pain and the woman bleeds for weeks. Ovarian cysts are growths on the ovaries that are extremely painful and that will kill the woman if they rupture and she doesn't get to a hospital immediately.

I nearly died once because of ruptured cysts.

The standard medication for those conditions is the pill. And not just any pill will do. There are many types and strengths of contraceptive pills out there and the one that I had to take for those conditions wasn't cheap. In fact it was over a hundred dollars a month to buy those pills.

Men won't die if they can't have sex. Some women will die or be left infertile without the pill.

As for abortion on demand, yes it can prevent a health problem including death.

My cousin's wife is a very good example of that. She was in the middle of the 3rd trimester of a very planned and wanted pregnancy. The cord got wrapped around the neck of the fetus and it basically died. In that it was probably brain dead and there was a faint heartbeat. She had a late term abortion to save her life.

If she had not had that abortion, peritonitis would have set in and killed her. Or she would have been lucky and left infertile. Their 2 children who were born years later would have never been born.

I just want to know what life there is in an ectopic pregnancy? That pregnancy is very much a health problem with only 2 possible outcomes.

1. The woman has an abortion and lives.
2. The woman dies without the abortion.

Please learn something about the pill. It's not just for contraception. Abortions save lives. No woman should die just because her pregnancy goes wrong.

My question to you is why can't you be happy with the freedom you have to live your life as you choose? Why do you need to take other people's freedom from them and force them to live as you want them to live?

And by LAW if your doctor prescribes the pill to you your insurance company MUST cover it. Do you fucking get that?

I posted the law in this thread. It's not even up for debate. So the idea that ANYONE is trying to keep you form having access to the pill is ludicrous and dishonest.

If you have insurance now. Not all women have insurance now.

When I went through that nightmare it wasn't required by law for everyone and only for medical purposes.

When I was in my early 20s I worked jobs that didn't provide health insurance and I wasn't paid enough to pay for it myself. After I was diagnosed with those conditions, no private insurance would cover me because of that preexisting condition. I went though hell just to find a doctor who would actually see me. Since I didn't have insurance and the condition I had they didn't want a malpractice suit.

I nearly died because I couldn't afford the pills and I played russian roulette with my health. Like so many did before Obamacare and so many still do in many states that didn't expand medicare or set up their own exchange.

Today there are women without insurance who can't afford the pills that will save their lives. Too many states have closed down clinics using the excuse of abortion that now many women in some states no longer have access to medication that will save their lives.

The fact that your insurance plan would not cover estrogen for a medical condition is a tragedy.
I will repeat myself for the nth time....If the Pill is necessary for treatment of a medical condition, then it must be covered by health plans.....[/QUOTE]

I've counted ten times where that's been pointed out in this thread and shim hasn't acknowledged it yet.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Eight things men still can't do it 2014


1. Use vague terms such as "female problems" as a way to get out of work

2. Use their tits to get out of speeding tickets

3. Cry at a bar

4. Sit in a park alone

5. Wear their partners clothes in public (assuming straight)

6. Openly own sex toys

7. Make sweeping denouncements of the entire opposite sex

8. Choose not to care for or provide for a child they don't want if the mother says "yes you will" - or conversely keep a child they want if the mother says "no you won't"