81 million Votes?

Biden and his Rats stole this election from the American people.

It's time for them to go to jail.

Jesus Christ. Have we got a nut case here.
Nothing nutty about the truth.

You are right about that but to this point the truth of your allegations hasn't been revealed.

Those who continue to believe trump was dudded are complete nut cases.
History has been written and it correctly records trump was thrown out by his own Republican supporters who changed their mind. Suck it up boys and girls.
 
Biden's Memorial Day speech. 200 likes 1500 dislikes. Only 7,300 watched on WH You Tube channel.

60% approval is a huge lie.

I know this is hard to fathom for somebody who likes Trump, but quite a few people like a president who doesn't stir up controversy every time he opens his mouth. You could even say that quite a few people don't mind the presidency not being treated like a reality show but an actual serious job.

So go ahead think that the likes on a youtube channel mean anything.
They just can't wrap their heads around the fact that a majority of us don't adore Trump, like they do.

It simply doesn't compute. So something must be wrong. He must be right: Someone must have cheated.
You can't wrap you head around overplaying your hand. 81 million votes for a corrupt career politician did not happen. Period.
And there ya go.
When the fraud is proven do you plan on staying?
What fraud?
I mean except for the clearly demonstrated GOP fraud.
and
Where do you get your evidence of this "fraud"
See folks...When Ideology becomes Theology
View attachment 495981
Theology is right. trump is their god now.
It is weird to watch.
I talk to educated folks who claim to believe things like Noah
But I know their belief is more in the parable than the event.
But talk to the Trumpists and there's two groups.
The "True Believers" who know in their hearts Trump is their God.
Not bad people, just confused and not particularly bright.
Their the ones funding the GOP crazy.
AND
Those who CLAIM to be "True Believers"
They would be Trump, his family, and crazies like Gosar and MTG.
They're taking the rubes for all they got by pretending to be followers.

Betcha Gosar, Nunes and that group are among the first to flip when the 1/6 investigation gets rolling.
Noah's ark was real and the worldwide flood really happened, but this isn't the forum for that debate.
I like how you simply dispose of everybody by calling them either dumb or manipulators, without considering that they might have considered the evidence and found Trump a much better option than the alternative, like I did. Sure, a small number of people take their love of Trump too far, but I could say the same thing, possibly more, about several Democrat politicians. Unfortunately for you, I've seen little evidence that the Republican party is largely composed of cultists towards Trump- a lot of people like Trump, even while noting that he has SIGNIFICANT flaws. Furthermore, when you see how much the power people who hate America hates Trump, you tend to start rooting for the guy.
More than half of all Republicans believe the election was "stolen."
A demonstrable lie.
That means that at lease 27 million Trump followers believe the lie.
Most people would not call 27 million a small number
And
Noah's ark was real?
Explain Kangaroos, duck billed platypuses

The defense calls for a directed verdict of "Get the Heck Outta Here with This Stuff!"
(As I said, not the place to debate Noah's Ark, though if you want a decent, understandable online resource, Answer in Genesis has a website with a lot of articles on it, even if the navigation can be a bit clunky)
I will believe that it's a lie (and not a possible exaggeration) when I get enough evidence that the election was fair and aboveboard. Unfortunately, I've got plenty of evidence to the contrary.
I do find it funny that everybody who questions this election is a crazy Trump cultist and everybody who questioned the 2016 election (it was all the rage for a while in certain circles, circles I'm not a part of) was a warrior for democracy and freedom.
WHY do you believe the election was stolen?
WHAT irrefutable evidence do you have that has escaped the eyes of people at every level of Law enforcement and the election hierarchy.
WHERE exactly is this evidence?
WHO is in control of this evidence?
WHEN was this criminality undertaken?
and
HOW were votes changed by the voting machines so that Trump votes became Biden votes then changed back so that they became Trump votes for the manual recount?

I don't remember on Jan 6, 2017 thousands of Clinton supporters plotting to take over the government and kill Biden, McConnell and whoever was the Speaker back then. I must have slept through that part.
OR
Maybe, just maybe, you really are a Trump Cultist.
After all
The behaviors match those of a religious cult.
And your projection is that of a radical cult. You lose.

Hmm.
I note that not one of the WWWWW+H questions were answered.
Why is that?
Are you afraid to answer them?
Or
More likely
There is no answer you care to provide because any TRUTHFUL answer will prove you a nutjob.

Thing about cults, sonny...
Their facts depend on the word of a single person
They only believe what their Savior tells them.
Anything else cannot be true.
Sound familiar?

I thought we covered all this back in When Ideology Becomes Theology.

Why not go back for a refresher?
It's because I don't check this site every day.
I barely know Trump's position on it.
Why? (I saw videos and testimony showing horrific levels of election chicanery- not necessarily proof of fraud in all cases, but proof fraud was likely or possible)(I saw that the bellweather counties almost universally went the wrong way)
What? (I don't have irrefutable evidence that Australia exists, dude. I have seen enough evidence for me to believe that the election was screwy. Why it was never presented, I can't give a concrete answer, though I can give suspicions.)
Where?
Who? (I'll take these as a group. The internet provided me with my evidence because I didn't go on location at the proper time. The evidence is now present on a number of websites.)
When? (vast majority happened on the day of the counting, particularly late at night and in the early morning of the next day)
How? (Qanon is bunk. I believe that the voter machines were entirely possible to hack and affect- one was hacked live during a hearing-, but I don't believe it was a nationwide hack or the primary vector for fraud. Simple ballot harvesting, fake ballots, counting ballots multiple times, etc. was the primary method. Furthermore, audits were only rarely carried out and even those tended to have methodological problems (though I can't give the specifics, it's been over 7 months))

Anybody who believes that the slightly rowdy crowd on Capitol hill Jan 6 were trying to kill people is not looking at all the evidence. All available footage shows that the vast majority of the people merely wanted to be present to ensure their voice was heard; many believed they were invited in (because in many cases they were); the only casualty was a protester (and if you say they couldn't have inflicted casualties, that's nonsense, so they must not have been trying to inflict casualties).
The group that entered the Capitol on Jan 6 were the opposite of insurrectionists- they were not trying to prop up a new government, they were explicitly trying to reinforce the current one.
(Also, crowds have piled into the Capitol hill before, during Trump's time, in opposition to Trump).
If so many people really wanted to kill government officials, you'd think a few assassination attempts would have been made, honestly, and NONE have been undertaken.
There you go friends.
In their own words.
They believe without evidence.

There is no use trying to sway you with facts.
No mountain of facts could change a position held on faith.

Please don't argue with or slam this person.
He holds these positions faithfully
His response was honest and respectful.
But
Read the post and understand
Make a copy and save it somewhere for reference.
Whether this person agreed with what happened on 1/6 or not,
The actors on 1/6 shared his thoughts.

In addition to their opinions about the election, they considered themselves heroes.
They were Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and Roosevelt rolled into one
with a giant Q on their chest and a red-white-blue supersuit.
they were going to make history just like the founding fathers.
This is what makes them so dangerous.

Again, thank you for your honest response.
Many with your beliefs are unwilling to discuss them so openly.
For that, you are to be respected.
There is nothing dangerous about freedom. The danger is losing it.
He was not discussing freedom.
He was discussing fantasized election theories with zero evidence to support those theories.
But he, unlike most of you was willing to discuss his beliefs and his reasoning honestly.
His willingness to step out and speak his truth is to be respected.
Now why don't you give us your honest opinion with the facts to back it up?
 
Biden's Memorial Day speech. 200 likes 1500 dislikes. Only 7,300 watched on WH You Tube channel.

60% approval is a huge lie.

I know this is hard to fathom for somebody who likes Trump, but quite a few people like a president who doesn't stir up controversy every time he opens his mouth. You could even say that quite a few people don't mind the presidency not being treated like a reality show but an actual serious job.

So go ahead think that the likes on a youtube channel mean anything.
They just can't wrap their heads around the fact that a majority of us don't adore Trump, like they do.

It simply doesn't compute. So something must be wrong. He must be right: Someone must have cheated.
You can't wrap you head around overplaying your hand. 81 million votes for a corrupt career politician did not happen. Period.
And there ya go.
When the fraud is proven do you plan on staying?
What fraud?
I mean except for the clearly demonstrated GOP fraud.
and
Where do you get your evidence of this "fraud"
See folks...When Ideology becomes Theology
View attachment 495981
Theology is right. trump is their god now.
It is weird to watch.
I talk to educated folks who claim to believe things like Noah
But I know their belief is more in the parable than the event.
But talk to the Trumpists and there's two groups.
The "True Believers" who know in their hearts Trump is their God.
Not bad people, just confused and not particularly bright.
Their the ones funding the GOP crazy.
AND
Those who CLAIM to be "True Believers"
They would be Trump, his family, and crazies like Gosar and MTG.
They're taking the rubes for all they got by pretending to be followers.

Betcha Gosar, Nunes and that group are among the first to flip when the 1/6 investigation gets rolling.
Noah's ark was real and the worldwide flood really happened, but this isn't the forum for that debate.
I like how you simply dispose of everybody by calling them either dumb or manipulators, without considering that they might have considered the evidence and found Trump a much better option than the alternative, like I did. Sure, a small number of people take their love of Trump too far, but I could say the same thing, possibly more, about several Democrat politicians. Unfortunately for you, I've seen little evidence that the Republican party is largely composed of cultists towards Trump- a lot of people like Trump, even while noting that he has SIGNIFICANT flaws. Furthermore, when you see how much the power people who hate America hates Trump, you tend to start rooting for the guy.
More than half of all Republicans believe the election was "stolen."
A demonstrable lie.
That means that at lease 27 million Trump followers believe the lie.
Most people would not call 27 million a small number
And
Noah's ark was real?
Explain Kangaroos, duck billed platypuses

The defense calls for a directed verdict of "Get the Heck Outta Here with This Stuff!"
(As I said, not the place to debate Noah's Ark, though if you want a decent, understandable online resource, Answer in Genesis has a website with a lot of articles on it, even if the navigation can be a bit clunky)
I will believe that it's a lie (and not a possible exaggeration) when I get enough evidence that the election was fair and aboveboard. Unfortunately, I've got plenty of evidence to the contrary.
I do find it funny that everybody who questions this election is a crazy Trump cultist and everybody who questioned the 2016 election (it was all the rage for a while in certain circles, circles I'm not a part of) was a warrior for democracy and freedom.
WHY do you believe the election was stolen?
WHAT irrefutable evidence do you have that has escaped the eyes of people at every level of Law enforcement and the election hierarchy.
WHERE exactly is this evidence?
WHO is in control of this evidence?
WHEN was this criminality undertaken?
and
HOW were votes changed by the voting machines so that Trump votes became Biden votes then changed back so that they became Trump votes for the manual recount?

I don't remember on Jan 6, 2017 thousands of Clinton supporters plotting to take over the government and kill Biden, McConnell and whoever was the Speaker back then. I must have slept through that part.
OR
Maybe, just maybe, you really are a Trump Cultist.
After all
The behaviors match those of a religious cult.
And your projection is that of a radical cult. You lose.

Hmm.
I note that not one of the WWWWW+H questions were answered.
Why is that?
Are you afraid to answer them?
Or
More likely
There is no answer you care to provide because any TRUTHFUL answer will prove you a nutjob.

Thing about cults, sonny...
Their facts depend on the word of a single person
They only believe what their Savior tells them.
Anything else cannot be true.
Sound familiar?

I thought we covered all this back in When Ideology Becomes Theology.

Why not go back for a refresher?
It's because I don't check this site every day.
I barely know Trump's position on it.
Why? (I saw videos and testimony showing horrific levels of election chicanery- not necessarily proof of fraud in all cases, but proof fraud was likely or possible)(I saw that the bellweather counties almost universally went the wrong way)
What? (I don't have irrefutable evidence that Australia exists, dude. I have seen enough evidence for me to believe that the election was screwy. Why it was never presented, I can't give a concrete answer, though I can give suspicions.)
Where?
Who? (I'll take these as a group. The internet provided me with my evidence because I didn't go on location at the proper time. The evidence is now present on a number of websites.)
When? (vast majority happened on the day of the counting, particularly late at night and in the early morning of the next day)
How? (Qanon is bunk. I believe that the voter machines were entirely possible to hack and affect- one was hacked live during a hearing-, but I don't believe it was a nationwide hack or the primary vector for fraud. Simple ballot harvesting, fake ballots, counting ballots multiple times, etc. was the primary method. Furthermore, audits were only rarely carried out and even those tended to have methodological problems (though I can't give the specifics, it's been over 7 months))

Anybody who believes that the slightly rowdy crowd on Capitol hill Jan 6 were trying to kill people is not looking at all the evidence. All available footage shows that the vast majority of the people merely wanted to be present to ensure their voice was heard; many believed they were invited in (because in many cases they were); the only casualty was a protester (and if you say they couldn't have inflicted casualties, that's nonsense, so they must not have been trying to inflict casualties).
The group that entered the Capitol on Jan 6 were the opposite of insurrectionists- they were not trying to prop up a new government, they were explicitly trying to reinforce the current one.
(Also, crowds have piled into the Capitol hill before, during Trump's time, in opposition to Trump).
If so many people really wanted to kill government officials, you'd think a few assassination attempts would have been made, honestly, and NONE have been undertaken.
There you go friends.
In their own words.
They believe without evidence.

There is no use trying to sway you with facts.
No mountain of facts could change a position held on faith.

Please don't argue with or slam this person.
He holds these positions faithfully
His response was honest and respectful.
But
Read the post and understand
Make a copy and save it somewhere for reference.
Whether this person agreed with what happened on 1/6 or not,
The actors on 1/6 shared his thoughts.

In addition to their opinions about the election, they considered themselves heroes.
They were Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and Roosevelt rolled into one
with a giant Q on their chest and a red-white-blue supersuit.
they were going to make history just like the founding fathers.
This is what makes them so dangerous.

Again, thank you for your honest response.
Many with your beliefs are unwilling to discuss them so openly.
For that, you are to be respected.
There is nothing dangerous about freedom. The danger is losing it.
He was not discussing freedom.
He was discussing fantasized election theories with zero evidence to support those theories.
But he, unlike most of you was willing to discuss his beliefs and his reasoning honestly.
His willingness to step out and speak his truth is to be respected.
Now why don't you give us your honest opinion with the facts to back it up?
Freedom is the elephant in the room. It depends how much you can get people to stomach. 81 million is hard to swallow.
 
Biden's Memorial Day speech. 200 likes 1500 dislikes. Only 7,300 watched on WH You Tube channel.

60% approval is a huge lie.

I know this is hard to fathom for somebody who likes Trump, but quite a few people like a president who doesn't stir up controversy every time he opens his mouth. You could even say that quite a few people don't mind the presidency not being treated like a reality show but an actual serious job.

So go ahead think that the likes on a youtube channel mean anything.
They just can't wrap their heads around the fact that a majority of us don't adore Trump, like they do.

It simply doesn't compute. So something must be wrong. He must be right: Someone must have cheated.
You can't wrap you head around overplaying your hand. 81 million votes for a corrupt career politician did not happen. Period.
And there ya go.
When the fraud is proven do you plan on staying?
What fraud?
I mean except for the clearly demonstrated GOP fraud.
and
Where do you get your evidence of this "fraud"
See folks...When Ideology becomes Theology
View attachment 495981
Theology is right. trump is their god now.
It is weird to watch.
I talk to educated folks who claim to believe things like Noah
But I know their belief is more in the parable than the event.
But talk to the Trumpists and there's two groups.
The "True Believers" who know in their hearts Trump is their God.
Not bad people, just confused and not particularly bright.
Their the ones funding the GOP crazy.
AND
Those who CLAIM to be "True Believers"
They would be Trump, his family, and crazies like Gosar and MTG.
They're taking the rubes for all they got by pretending to be followers.

Betcha Gosar, Nunes and that group are among the first to flip when the 1/6 investigation gets rolling.
Noah's ark was real and the worldwide flood really happened, but this isn't the forum for that debate.
I like how you simply dispose of everybody by calling them either dumb or manipulators, without considering that they might have considered the evidence and found Trump a much better option than the alternative, like I did. Sure, a small number of people take their love of Trump too far, but I could say the same thing, possibly more, about several Democrat politicians. Unfortunately for you, I've seen little evidence that the Republican party is largely composed of cultists towards Trump- a lot of people like Trump, even while noting that he has SIGNIFICANT flaws. Furthermore, when you see how much the power people who hate America hates Trump, you tend to start rooting for the guy.
More than half of all Republicans believe the election was "stolen."
A demonstrable lie.
That means that at lease 27 million Trump followers believe the lie.
Most people would not call 27 million a small number
And
Noah's ark was real?
Explain Kangaroos, duck billed platypuses

The defense calls for a directed verdict of "Get the Heck Outta Here with This Stuff!"
(As I said, not the place to debate Noah's Ark, though if you want a decent, understandable online resource, Answer in Genesis has a website with a lot of articles on it, even if the navigation can be a bit clunky)
I will believe that it's a lie (and not a possible exaggeration) when I get enough evidence that the election was fair and aboveboard. Unfortunately, I've got plenty of evidence to the contrary.
I do find it funny that everybody who questions this election is a crazy Trump cultist and everybody who questioned the 2016 election (it was all the rage for a while in certain circles, circles I'm not a part of) was a warrior for democracy and freedom.
WHY do you believe the election was stolen?
WHAT irrefutable evidence do you have that has escaped the eyes of people at every level of Law enforcement and the election hierarchy.
WHERE exactly is this evidence?
WHO is in control of this evidence?
WHEN was this criminality undertaken?
and
HOW were votes changed by the voting machines so that Trump votes became Biden votes then changed back so that they became Trump votes for the manual recount?

I don't remember on Jan 6, 2017 thousands of Clinton supporters plotting to take over the government and kill Biden, McConnell and whoever was the Speaker back then. I must have slept through that part.
OR
Maybe, just maybe, you really are a Trump Cultist.
After all
The behaviors match those of a religious cult.
And your projection is that of a radical cult. You lose.

Hmm.
I note that not one of the WWWWW+H questions were answered.
Why is that?
Are you afraid to answer them?
Or
More likely
There is no answer you care to provide because any TRUTHFUL answer will prove you a nutjob.

Thing about cults, sonny...
Their facts depend on the word of a single person
They only believe what their Savior tells them.
Anything else cannot be true.
Sound familiar?

I thought we covered all this back in When Ideology Becomes Theology.

Why not go back for a refresher?
It's because I don't check this site every day.
I barely know Trump's position on it.
Why? (I saw videos and testimony showing horrific levels of election chicanery- not necessarily proof of fraud in all cases, but proof fraud was likely or possible)(I saw that the bellweather counties almost universally went the wrong way)
What? (I don't have irrefutable evidence that Australia exists, dude. I have seen enough evidence for me to believe that the election was screwy. Why it was never presented, I can't give a concrete answer, though I can give suspicions.)
Where?
Who? (I'll take these as a group. The internet provided me with my evidence because I didn't go on location at the proper time. The evidence is now present on a number of websites.)
When? (vast majority happened on the day of the counting, particularly late at night and in the early morning of the next day)
How? (Qanon is bunk. I believe that the voter machines were entirely possible to hack and affect- one was hacked live during a hearing-, but I don't believe it was a nationwide hack or the primary vector for fraud. Simple ballot harvesting, fake ballots, counting ballots multiple times, etc. was the primary method. Furthermore, audits were only rarely carried out and even those tended to have methodological problems (though I can't give the specifics, it's been over 7 months))

Anybody who believes that the slightly rowdy crowd on Capitol hill Jan 6 were trying to kill people is not looking at all the evidence. All available footage shows that the vast majority of the people merely wanted to be present to ensure their voice was heard; many believed they were invited in (because in many cases they were); the only casualty was a protester (and if you say they couldn't have inflicted casualties, that's nonsense, so they must not have been trying to inflict casualties).
The group that entered the Capitol on Jan 6 were the opposite of insurrectionists- they were not trying to prop up a new government, they were explicitly trying to reinforce the current one.
(Also, crowds have piled into the Capitol hill before, during Trump's time, in opposition to Trump).
If so many people really wanted to kill government officials, you'd think a few assassination attempts would have been made, honestly, and NONE have been undertaken.
There you go friends.
In their own words.
They believe without evidence.

There is no use trying to sway you with facts.
No mountain of facts could change a position held on faith.

Please don't argue with or slam this person.
He holds these positions faithfully
His response was honest and respectful.
But
Read the post and understand
Make a copy and save it somewhere for reference.
Whether this person agreed with what happened on 1/6 or not,
The actors on 1/6 shared his thoughts.

In addition to their opinions about the election, they considered themselves heroes.
They were Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and Roosevelt rolled into one
with a giant Q on their chest and a red-white-blue supersuit.
they were going to make history just like the founding fathers.
This is what makes them so dangerous.

Again, thank you for your honest response.
Many with your beliefs are unwilling to discuss them so openly.
For that, you are to be respected.
There is nothing dangerous about freedom. The danger is losing it.
He was not discussing freedom.
He was discussing fantasized election theories with zero evidence to support those theories.
But he, unlike most of you was willing to discuss his beliefs and his reasoning honestly.
His willingness to step out and speak his truth is to be respected.
Now why don't you give us your honest opinion with the facts to back it up?
Freedom is the elephant in the room. It depends how much you can get people to stomach. 81 million is hard to swallow.

When has your freedom ever been restricted by any governments?
 
Biden's Memorial Day speech. 200 likes 1500 dislikes. Only 7,300 watched on WH You Tube channel.

60% approval is a huge lie.

I know this is hard to fathom for somebody who likes Trump, but quite a few people like a president who doesn't stir up controversy every time he opens his mouth. You could even say that quite a few people don't mind the presidency not being treated like a reality show but an actual serious job.

So go ahead think that the likes on a youtube channel mean anything.
They just can't wrap their heads around the fact that a majority of us don't adore Trump, like they do.

It simply doesn't compute. So something must be wrong. He must be right: Someone must have cheated.
You can't wrap you head around overplaying your hand. 81 million votes for a corrupt career politician did not happen. Period.
And there ya go.
When the fraud is proven do you plan on staying?
What fraud?
I mean except for the clearly demonstrated GOP fraud.
and
Where do you get your evidence of this "fraud"
See folks...When Ideology becomes Theology
View attachment 495981
Theology is right. trump is their god now.
It is weird to watch.
I talk to educated folks who claim to believe things like Noah
But I know their belief is more in the parable than the event.
But talk to the Trumpists and there's two groups.
The "True Believers" who know in their hearts Trump is their God.
Not bad people, just confused and not particularly bright.
Their the ones funding the GOP crazy.
AND
Those who CLAIM to be "True Believers"
They would be Trump, his family, and crazies like Gosar and MTG.
They're taking the rubes for all they got by pretending to be followers.

Betcha Gosar, Nunes and that group are among the first to flip when the 1/6 investigation gets rolling.
Noah's ark was real and the worldwide flood really happened, but this isn't the forum for that debate.
I like how you simply dispose of everybody by calling them either dumb or manipulators, without considering that they might have considered the evidence and found Trump a much better option than the alternative, like I did. Sure, a small number of people take their love of Trump too far, but I could say the same thing, possibly more, about several Democrat politicians. Unfortunately for you, I've seen little evidence that the Republican party is largely composed of cultists towards Trump- a lot of people like Trump, even while noting that he has SIGNIFICANT flaws. Furthermore, when you see how much the power people who hate America hates Trump, you tend to start rooting for the guy.
More than half of all Republicans believe the election was "stolen."
A demonstrable lie.
That means that at lease 27 million Trump followers believe the lie.
Most people would not call 27 million a small number
And
Noah's ark was real?
Explain Kangaroos, duck billed platypuses

The defense calls for a directed verdict of "Get the Heck Outta Here with This Stuff!"
(As I said, not the place to debate Noah's Ark, though if you want a decent, understandable online resource, Answer in Genesis has a website with a lot of articles on it, even if the navigation can be a bit clunky)
I will believe that it's a lie (and not a possible exaggeration) when I get enough evidence that the election was fair and aboveboard. Unfortunately, I've got plenty of evidence to the contrary.
I do find it funny that everybody who questions this election is a crazy Trump cultist and everybody who questioned the 2016 election (it was all the rage for a while in certain circles, circles I'm not a part of) was a warrior for democracy and freedom.
WHY do you believe the election was stolen?
WHAT irrefutable evidence do you have that has escaped the eyes of people at every level of Law enforcement and the election hierarchy.
WHERE exactly is this evidence?
WHO is in control of this evidence?
WHEN was this criminality undertaken?
and
HOW were votes changed by the voting machines so that Trump votes became Biden votes then changed back so that they became Trump votes for the manual recount?

I don't remember on Jan 6, 2017 thousands of Clinton supporters plotting to take over the government and kill Biden, McConnell and whoever was the Speaker back then. I must have slept through that part.
OR
Maybe, just maybe, you really are a Trump Cultist.
After all
The behaviors match those of a religious cult.
And your projection is that of a radical cult. You lose.

Hmm.
I note that not one of the WWWWW+H questions were answered.
Why is that?
Are you afraid to answer them?
Or
More likely
There is no answer you care to provide because any TRUTHFUL answer will prove you a nutjob.

Thing about cults, sonny...
Their facts depend on the word of a single person
They only believe what their Savior tells them.
Anything else cannot be true.
Sound familiar?

I thought we covered all this back in When Ideology Becomes Theology.

Why not go back for a refresher?
It's because I don't check this site every day.
I barely know Trump's position on it.
Why? (I saw videos and testimony showing horrific levels of election chicanery- not necessarily proof of fraud in all cases, but proof fraud was likely or possible)(I saw that the bellweather counties almost universally went the wrong way)
What? (I don't have irrefutable evidence that Australia exists, dude. I have seen enough evidence for me to believe that the election was screwy. Why it was never presented, I can't give a concrete answer, though I can give suspicions.)
Where?
Who? (I'll take these as a group. The internet provided me with my evidence because I didn't go on location at the proper time. The evidence is now present on a number of websites.)
When? (vast majority happened on the day of the counting, particularly late at night and in the early morning of the next day)
How? (Qanon is bunk. I believe that the voter machines were entirely possible to hack and affect- one was hacked live during a hearing-, but I don't believe it was a nationwide hack or the primary vector for fraud. Simple ballot harvesting, fake ballots, counting ballots multiple times, etc. was the primary method. Furthermore, audits were only rarely carried out and even those tended to have methodological problems (though I can't give the specifics, it's been over 7 months))

Anybody who believes that the slightly rowdy crowd on Capitol hill Jan 6 were trying to kill people is not looking at all the evidence. All available footage shows that the vast majority of the people merely wanted to be present to ensure their voice was heard; many believed they were invited in (because in many cases they were); the only casualty was a protester (and if you say they couldn't have inflicted casualties, that's nonsense, so they must not have been trying to inflict casualties).
The group that entered the Capitol on Jan 6 were the opposite of insurrectionists- they were not trying to prop up a new government, they were explicitly trying to reinforce the current one.
(Also, crowds have piled into the Capitol hill before, during Trump's time, in opposition to Trump).
If so many people really wanted to kill government officials, you'd think a few assassination attempts would have been made, honestly, and NONE have been undertaken.
There you go friends.
In their own words.
They believe without evidence.

There is no use trying to sway you with facts.
No mountain of facts could change a position held on faith.

Please don't argue with or slam this person.
He holds these positions faithfully
His response was honest and respectful.
But
Read the post and understand
Make a copy and save it somewhere for reference.
Whether this person agreed with what happened on 1/6 or not,
The actors on 1/6 shared his thoughts.

In addition to their opinions about the election, they considered themselves heroes.
They were Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and Roosevelt rolled into one
with a giant Q on their chest and a red-white-blue supersuit.
they were going to make history just like the founding fathers.
This is what makes them so dangerous.

Again, thank you for your honest response.
Many with your beliefs are unwilling to discuss them so openly.
For that, you are to be respected.
There is nothing dangerous about freedom. The danger is losing it.
He was not discussing freedom.
He was discussing fantasized election theories with zero evidence to support those theories.
But he, unlike most of you was willing to discuss his beliefs and his reasoning honestly.
His willingness to step out and speak his truth is to be respected.
Now why don't you give us your honest opinion with the facts to back it up?
Freedom is the elephant in the room. It depends how much you can get people to stomach. 81 million is hard to swallow.

When has your freedom ever been restricted by any governments?
During the scamdemic. Doh!
 
Biden's Memorial Day speech. 200 likes 1500 dislikes. Only 7,300 watched on WH You Tube channel.

60% approval is a huge lie.

I know this is hard to fathom for somebody who likes Trump, but quite a few people like a president who doesn't stir up controversy every time he opens his mouth. You could even say that quite a few people don't mind the presidency not being treated like a reality show but an actual serious job.

So go ahead think that the likes on a youtube channel mean anything.
They just can't wrap their heads around the fact that a majority of us don't adore Trump, like they do.

It simply doesn't compute. So something must be wrong. He must be right: Someone must have cheated.
You can't wrap you head around overplaying your hand. 81 million votes for a corrupt career politician did not happen. Period.
And there ya go.
When the fraud is proven do you plan on staying?
What fraud?
I mean except for the clearly demonstrated GOP fraud.
and
Where do you get your evidence of this "fraud"
See folks...When Ideology becomes Theology
View attachment 495981
Theology is right. trump is their god now.
It is weird to watch.
I talk to educated folks who claim to believe things like Noah
But I know their belief is more in the parable than the event.
But talk to the Trumpists and there's two groups.
The "True Believers" who know in their hearts Trump is their God.
Not bad people, just confused and not particularly bright.
Their the ones funding the GOP crazy.
AND
Those who CLAIM to be "True Believers"
They would be Trump, his family, and crazies like Gosar and MTG.
They're taking the rubes for all they got by pretending to be followers.

Betcha Gosar, Nunes and that group are among the first to flip when the 1/6 investigation gets rolling.
Noah's ark was real and the worldwide flood really happened, but this isn't the forum for that debate.
I like how you simply dispose of everybody by calling them either dumb or manipulators, without considering that they might have considered the evidence and found Trump a much better option than the alternative, like I did. Sure, a small number of people take their love of Trump too far, but I could say the same thing, possibly more, about several Democrat politicians. Unfortunately for you, I've seen little evidence that the Republican party is largely composed of cultists towards Trump- a lot of people like Trump, even while noting that he has SIGNIFICANT flaws. Furthermore, when you see how much the power people who hate America hates Trump, you tend to start rooting for the guy.
More than half of all Republicans believe the election was "stolen."
A demonstrable lie.
That means that at lease 27 million Trump followers believe the lie.
Most people would not call 27 million a small number
And
Noah's ark was real?
Explain Kangaroos, duck billed platypuses

The defense calls for a directed verdict of "Get the Heck Outta Here with This Stuff!"
(As I said, not the place to debate Noah's Ark, though if you want a decent, understandable online resource, Answer in Genesis has a website with a lot of articles on it, even if the navigation can be a bit clunky)
I will believe that it's a lie (and not a possible exaggeration) when I get enough evidence that the election was fair and aboveboard. Unfortunately, I've got plenty of evidence to the contrary.
I do find it funny that everybody who questions this election is a crazy Trump cultist and everybody who questioned the 2016 election (it was all the rage for a while in certain circles, circles I'm not a part of) was a warrior for democracy and freedom.
WHY do you believe the election was stolen?
WHAT irrefutable evidence do you have that has escaped the eyes of people at every level of Law enforcement and the election hierarchy.
WHERE exactly is this evidence?
WHO is in control of this evidence?
WHEN was this criminality undertaken?
and
HOW were votes changed by the voting machines so that Trump votes became Biden votes then changed back so that they became Trump votes for the manual recount?

I don't remember on Jan 6, 2017 thousands of Clinton supporters plotting to take over the government and kill Biden, McConnell and whoever was the Speaker back then. I must have slept through that part.
OR
Maybe, just maybe, you really are a Trump Cultist.
After all
The behaviors match those of a religious cult.
And your projection is that of a radical cult. You lose.

Hmm.
I note that not one of the WWWWW+H questions were answered.
Why is that?
Are you afraid to answer them?
Or
More likely
There is no answer you care to provide because any TRUTHFUL answer will prove you a nutjob.

Thing about cults, sonny...
Their facts depend on the word of a single person
They only believe what their Savior tells them.
Anything else cannot be true.
Sound familiar?

I thought we covered all this back in When Ideology Becomes Theology.

Why not go back for a refresher?
It's because I don't check this site every day.
I barely know Trump's position on it.
Why? (I saw videos and testimony showing horrific levels of election chicanery- not necessarily proof of fraud in all cases, but proof fraud was likely or possible)(I saw that the bellweather counties almost universally went the wrong way)
What? (I don't have irrefutable evidence that Australia exists, dude. I have seen enough evidence for me to believe that the election was screwy. Why it was never presented, I can't give a concrete answer, though I can give suspicions.)
Where?
Who? (I'll take these as a group. The internet provided me with my evidence because I didn't go on location at the proper time. The evidence is now present on a number of websites.)
When? (vast majority happened on the day of the counting, particularly late at night and in the early morning of the next day)
How? (Qanon is bunk. I believe that the voter machines were entirely possible to hack and affect- one was hacked live during a hearing-, but I don't believe it was a nationwide hack or the primary vector for fraud. Simple ballot harvesting, fake ballots, counting ballots multiple times, etc. was the primary method. Furthermore, audits were only rarely carried out and even those tended to have methodological problems (though I can't give the specifics, it's been over 7 months))

Anybody who believes that the slightly rowdy crowd on Capitol hill Jan 6 were trying to kill people is not looking at all the evidence. All available footage shows that the vast majority of the people merely wanted to be present to ensure their voice was heard; many believed they were invited in (because in many cases they were); the only casualty was a protester (and if you say they couldn't have inflicted casualties, that's nonsense, so they must not have been trying to inflict casualties).
The group that entered the Capitol on Jan 6 were the opposite of insurrectionists- they were not trying to prop up a new government, they were explicitly trying to reinforce the current one.
(Also, crowds have piled into the Capitol hill before, during Trump's time, in opposition to Trump).
If so many people really wanted to kill government officials, you'd think a few assassination attempts would have been made, honestly, and NONE have been undertaken.
There you go friends.
In their own words.
They believe without evidence.

There is no use trying to sway you with facts.
No mountain of facts could change a position held on faith.

Please don't argue with or slam this person.
He holds these positions faithfully
His response was honest and respectful.
But
Read the post and understand
Make a copy and save it somewhere for reference.
Whether this person agreed with what happened on 1/6 or not,
The actors on 1/6 shared his thoughts.

In addition to their opinions about the election, they considered themselves heroes.
They were Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and Roosevelt rolled into one
with a giant Q on their chest and a red-white-blue supersuit.
they were going to make history just like the founding fathers.
This is what makes them so dangerous.

Again, thank you for your honest response.
Many with your beliefs are unwilling to discuss them so openly.
For that, you are to be respected.
There is nothing dangerous about freedom. The danger is losing it.
He was not discussing freedom.
He was discussing fantasized election theories with zero evidence to support those theories.
But he, unlike most of you was willing to discuss his beliefs and his reasoning honestly.
His willingness to step out and speak his truth is to be respected.
Now why don't you give us your honest opinion with the facts to back it up?
Freedom is the elephant in the room. It depends how much you can get people to stomach. 81 million is hard to swallow.
No. What YOU perceive as "freedom" is a fantasy you've allowed yourself to become enthralled over.

Your view of "freedom" is turning over our democracy to a "man who would be king," LITERALLY.

Beyond that your post is unintelligible.
 
Biden's Memorial Day speech. 200 likes 1500 dislikes. Only 7,300 watched on WH You Tube channel.

60% approval is a huge lie.

I know this is hard to fathom for somebody who likes Trump, but quite a few people like a president who doesn't stir up controversy every time he opens his mouth. You could even say that quite a few people don't mind the presidency not being treated like a reality show but an actual serious job.

So go ahead think that the likes on a youtube channel mean anything.
They just can't wrap their heads around the fact that a majority of us don't adore Trump, like they do.

It simply doesn't compute. So something must be wrong. He must be right: Someone must have cheated.
You can't wrap you head around overplaying your hand. 81 million votes for a corrupt career politician did not happen. Period.
And there ya go.
When the fraud is proven do you plan on staying?
What fraud?
I mean except for the clearly demonstrated GOP fraud.
and
Where do you get your evidence of this "fraud"
See folks...When Ideology becomes Theology
View attachment 495981
Theology is right. trump is their god now.
It is weird to watch.
I talk to educated folks who claim to believe things like Noah
But I know their belief is more in the parable than the event.
But talk to the Trumpists and there's two groups.
The "True Believers" who know in their hearts Trump is their God.
Not bad people, just confused and not particularly bright.
Their the ones funding the GOP crazy.
AND
Those who CLAIM to be "True Believers"
They would be Trump, his family, and crazies like Gosar and MTG.
They're taking the rubes for all they got by pretending to be followers.

Betcha Gosar, Nunes and that group are among the first to flip when the 1/6 investigation gets rolling.
Noah's ark was real and the worldwide flood really happened, but this isn't the forum for that debate.
I like how you simply dispose of everybody by calling them either dumb or manipulators, without considering that they might have considered the evidence and found Trump a much better option than the alternative, like I did. Sure, a small number of people take their love of Trump too far, but I could say the same thing, possibly more, about several Democrat politicians. Unfortunately for you, I've seen little evidence that the Republican party is largely composed of cultists towards Trump- a lot of people like Trump, even while noting that he has SIGNIFICANT flaws. Furthermore, when you see how much the power people who hate America hates Trump, you tend to start rooting for the guy.
More than half of all Republicans believe the election was "stolen."
A demonstrable lie.
That means that at lease 27 million Trump followers believe the lie.
Most people would not call 27 million a small number
And
Noah's ark was real?
Explain Kangaroos, duck billed platypuses

The defense calls for a directed verdict of "Get the Heck Outta Here with This Stuff!"
(As I said, not the place to debate Noah's Ark, though if you want a decent, understandable online resource, Answer in Genesis has a website with a lot of articles on it, even if the navigation can be a bit clunky)
I will believe that it's a lie (and not a possible exaggeration) when I get enough evidence that the election was fair and aboveboard. Unfortunately, I've got plenty of evidence to the contrary.
I do find it funny that everybody who questions this election is a crazy Trump cultist and everybody who questioned the 2016 election (it was all the rage for a while in certain circles, circles I'm not a part of) was a warrior for democracy and freedom.
WHY do you believe the election was stolen?
WHAT irrefutable evidence do you have that has escaped the eyes of people at every level of Law enforcement and the election hierarchy.
WHERE exactly is this evidence?
WHO is in control of this evidence?
WHEN was this criminality undertaken?
and
HOW were votes changed by the voting machines so that Trump votes became Biden votes then changed back so that they became Trump votes for the manual recount?

I don't remember on Jan 6, 2017 thousands of Clinton supporters plotting to take over the government and kill Biden, McConnell and whoever was the Speaker back then. I must have slept through that part.
OR
Maybe, just maybe, you really are a Trump Cultist.
After all
The behaviors match those of a religious cult.
And your projection is that of a radical cult. You lose.

Hmm.
I note that not one of the WWWWW+H questions were answered.
Why is that?
Are you afraid to answer them?
Or
More likely
There is no answer you care to provide because any TRUTHFUL answer will prove you a nutjob.

Thing about cults, sonny...
Their facts depend on the word of a single person
They only believe what their Savior tells them.
Anything else cannot be true.
Sound familiar?

I thought we covered all this back in When Ideology Becomes Theology.

Why not go back for a refresher?
It's because I don't check this site every day.
I barely know Trump's position on it.
Why? (I saw videos and testimony showing horrific levels of election chicanery- not necessarily proof of fraud in all cases, but proof fraud was likely or possible)(I saw that the bellweather counties almost universally went the wrong way)
What? (I don't have irrefutable evidence that Australia exists, dude. I have seen enough evidence for me to believe that the election was screwy. Why it was never presented, I can't give a concrete answer, though I can give suspicions.)
Where?
Who? (I'll take these as a group. The internet provided me with my evidence because I didn't go on location at the proper time. The evidence is now present on a number of websites.)
When? (vast majority happened on the day of the counting, particularly late at night and in the early morning of the next day)
How? (Qanon is bunk. I believe that the voter machines were entirely possible to hack and affect- one was hacked live during a hearing-, but I don't believe it was a nationwide hack or the primary vector for fraud. Simple ballot harvesting, fake ballots, counting ballots multiple times, etc. was the primary method. Furthermore, audits were only rarely carried out and even those tended to have methodological problems (though I can't give the specifics, it's been over 7 months))

Anybody who believes that the slightly rowdy crowd on Capitol hill Jan 6 were trying to kill people is not looking at all the evidence. All available footage shows that the vast majority of the people merely wanted to be present to ensure their voice was heard; many believed they were invited in (because in many cases they were); the only casualty was a protester (and if you say they couldn't have inflicted casualties, that's nonsense, so they must not have been trying to inflict casualties).
The group that entered the Capitol on Jan 6 were the opposite of insurrectionists- they were not trying to prop up a new government, they were explicitly trying to reinforce the current one.
(Also, crowds have piled into the Capitol hill before, during Trump's time, in opposition to Trump).
If so many people really wanted to kill government officials, you'd think a few assassination attempts would have been made, honestly, and NONE have been undertaken.
There you go friends.
In their own words.
They believe without evidence.

There is no use trying to sway you with facts.
No mountain of facts could change a position held on faith.

Please don't argue with or slam this person.
He holds these positions faithfully
His response was honest and respectful.
But
Read the post and understand
Make a copy and save it somewhere for reference.
Whether this person agreed with what happened on 1/6 or not,
The actors on 1/6 shared his thoughts.

In addition to their opinions about the election, they considered themselves heroes.
They were Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and Roosevelt rolled into one
with a giant Q on their chest and a red-white-blue supersuit.
they were going to make history just like the founding fathers.
This is what makes them so dangerous.

Again, thank you for your honest response.
Many with your beliefs are unwilling to discuss them so openly.
For that, you are to be respected.
There is nothing dangerous about freedom. The danger is losing it.
He was not discussing freedom.
He was discussing fantasized election theories with zero evidence to support those theories.
But he, unlike most of you was willing to discuss his beliefs and his reasoning honestly.
His willingness to step out and speak his truth is to be respected.
Now why don't you give us your honest opinion with the facts to back it up?
Freedom is the elephant in the room. It depends how much you can get people to stomach. 81 million is hard to swallow.

When has your freedom ever been restricted by any governments?
Government has always had only two purposes.
To protect the rich from the poor
and
To ensure the rich enjoy their freedoms at the expense of the poor.
Freedoms? Nothing do do with it.
 
Biden's Memorial Day speech. 200 likes 1500 dislikes. Only 7,300 watched on WH You Tube channel.

60% approval is a huge lie.

I know this is hard to fathom for somebody who likes Trump, but quite a few people like a president who doesn't stir up controversy every time he opens his mouth. You could even say that quite a few people don't mind the presidency not being treated like a reality show but an actual serious job.

So go ahead think that the likes on a youtube channel mean anything.
They just can't wrap their heads around the fact that a majority of us don't adore Trump, like they do.

It simply doesn't compute. So something must be wrong. He must be right: Someone must have cheated.
You can't wrap you head around overplaying your hand. 81 million votes for a corrupt career politician did not happen. Period.
And there ya go.
When the fraud is proven do you plan on staying?
What fraud?
I mean except for the clearly demonstrated GOP fraud.
and
Where do you get your evidence of this "fraud"
See folks...When Ideology becomes Theology
View attachment 495981
Theology is right. trump is their god now.
It is weird to watch.
I talk to educated folks who claim to believe things like Noah
But I know their belief is more in the parable than the event.
But talk to the Trumpists and there's two groups.
The "True Believers" who know in their hearts Trump is their God.
Not bad people, just confused and not particularly bright.
Their the ones funding the GOP crazy.
AND
Those who CLAIM to be "True Believers"
They would be Trump, his family, and crazies like Gosar and MTG.
They're taking the rubes for all they got by pretending to be followers.

Betcha Gosar, Nunes and that group are among the first to flip when the 1/6 investigation gets rolling.
Noah's ark was real and the worldwide flood really happened, but this isn't the forum for that debate.
I like how you simply dispose of everybody by calling them either dumb or manipulators, without considering that they might have considered the evidence and found Trump a much better option than the alternative, like I did. Sure, a small number of people take their love of Trump too far, but I could say the same thing, possibly more, about several Democrat politicians. Unfortunately for you, I've seen little evidence that the Republican party is largely composed of cultists towards Trump- a lot of people like Trump, even while noting that he has SIGNIFICANT flaws. Furthermore, when you see how much the power people who hate America hates Trump, you tend to start rooting for the guy.
More than half of all Republicans believe the election was "stolen."
A demonstrable lie.
That means that at lease 27 million Trump followers believe the lie.
Most people would not call 27 million a small number
And
Noah's ark was real?
Explain Kangaroos, duck billed platypuses

The defense calls for a directed verdict of "Get the Heck Outta Here with This Stuff!"
(As I said, not the place to debate Noah's Ark, though if you want a decent, understandable online resource, Answer in Genesis has a website with a lot of articles on it, even if the navigation can be a bit clunky)
I will believe that it's a lie (and not a possible exaggeration) when I get enough evidence that the election was fair and aboveboard. Unfortunately, I've got plenty of evidence to the contrary.
I do find it funny that everybody who questions this election is a crazy Trump cultist and everybody who questioned the 2016 election (it was all the rage for a while in certain circles, circles I'm not a part of) was a warrior for democracy and freedom.
WHY do you believe the election was stolen?
WHAT irrefutable evidence do you have that has escaped the eyes of people at every level of Law enforcement and the election hierarchy.
WHERE exactly is this evidence?
WHO is in control of this evidence?
WHEN was this criminality undertaken?
and
HOW were votes changed by the voting machines so that Trump votes became Biden votes then changed back so that they became Trump votes for the manual recount?

I don't remember on Jan 6, 2017 thousands of Clinton supporters plotting to take over the government and kill Biden, McConnell and whoever was the Speaker back then. I must have slept through that part.
OR
Maybe, just maybe, you really are a Trump Cultist.
After all
The behaviors match those of a religious cult.
And your projection is that of a radical cult. You lose.

Hmm.
I note that not one of the WWWWW+H questions were answered.
Why is that?
Are you afraid to answer them?
Or
More likely
There is no answer you care to provide because any TRUTHFUL answer will prove you a nutjob.

Thing about cults, sonny...
Their facts depend on the word of a single person
They only believe what their Savior tells them.
Anything else cannot be true.
Sound familiar?

I thought we covered all this back in When Ideology Becomes Theology.

Why not go back for a refresher?
It's because I don't check this site every day.
I barely know Trump's position on it.
Why? (I saw videos and testimony showing horrific levels of election chicanery- not necessarily proof of fraud in all cases, but proof fraud was likely or possible)(I saw that the bellweather counties almost universally went the wrong way)
What? (I don't have irrefutable evidence that Australia exists, dude. I have seen enough evidence for me to believe that the election was screwy. Why it was never presented, I can't give a concrete answer, though I can give suspicions.)
Where?
Who? (I'll take these as a group. The internet provided me with my evidence because I didn't go on location at the proper time. The evidence is now present on a number of websites.)
When? (vast majority happened on the day of the counting, particularly late at night and in the early morning of the next day)
How? (Qanon is bunk. I believe that the voter machines were entirely possible to hack and affect- one was hacked live during a hearing-, but I don't believe it was a nationwide hack or the primary vector for fraud. Simple ballot harvesting, fake ballots, counting ballots multiple times, etc. was the primary method. Furthermore, audits were only rarely carried out and even those tended to have methodological problems (though I can't give the specifics, it's been over 7 months))

Anybody who believes that the slightly rowdy crowd on Capitol hill Jan 6 were trying to kill people is not looking at all the evidence. All available footage shows that the vast majority of the people merely wanted to be present to ensure their voice was heard; many believed they were invited in (because in many cases they were); the only casualty was a protester (and if you say they couldn't have inflicted casualties, that's nonsense, so they must not have been trying to inflict casualties).
The group that entered the Capitol on Jan 6 were the opposite of insurrectionists- they were not trying to prop up a new government, they were explicitly trying to reinforce the current one.
(Also, crowds have piled into the Capitol hill before, during Trump's time, in opposition to Trump).
If so many people really wanted to kill government officials, you'd think a few assassination attempts would have been made, honestly, and NONE have been undertaken.
There you go friends.
In their own words.
They believe without evidence.

There is no use trying to sway you with facts.
No mountain of facts could change a position held on faith.

Please don't argue with or slam this person.
He holds these positions faithfully
His response was honest and respectful.
But
Read the post and understand
Make a copy and save it somewhere for reference.
Whether this person agreed with what happened on 1/6 or not,
The actors on 1/6 shared his thoughts.

In addition to their opinions about the election, they considered themselves heroes.
They were Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and Roosevelt rolled into one
with a giant Q on their chest and a red-white-blue supersuit.
they were going to make history just like the founding fathers.
This is what makes them so dangerous.

Again, thank you for your honest response.
Many with your beliefs are unwilling to discuss them so openly.
For that, you are to be respected.
There is nothing dangerous about freedom. The danger is losing it.
He was not discussing freedom.
He was discussing fantasized election theories with zero evidence to support those theories.
But he, unlike most of you was willing to discuss his beliefs and his reasoning honestly.
His willingness to step out and speak his truth is to be respected.
Now why don't you give us your honest opinion with the facts to back it up?
Freedom is the elephant in the room. It depends how much you can get people to stomach. 81 million is hard to swallow.

When has your freedom ever been restricted by any governments?
Government has always had only two purposes.
To protect the rich from the poor
and
To ensure the rich enjoy their freedoms at the expense of the poor.
Freedoms? Nothing do do with it.

I cannot do anything but admire your vast knowledge of the constitution and it's responsibilities. I at no time ever interpreted it that way. A brilliant I sight into the mind of a genius.
 
Biden's Memorial Day speech. 200 likes 1500 dislikes. Only 7,300 watched on WH You Tube channel.

60% approval is a huge lie.

I know this is hard to fathom for somebody who likes Trump, but quite a few people like a president who doesn't stir up controversy every time he opens his mouth. You could even say that quite a few people don't mind the presidency not being treated like a reality show but an actual serious job.

So go ahead think that the likes on a youtube channel mean anything.
They just can't wrap their heads around the fact that a majority of us don't adore Trump, like they do.

It simply doesn't compute. So something must be wrong. He must be right: Someone must have cheated.

You're dealing with very fragile people.
 
There you go friends.
In their own words.
They believe without evidence.

There is no use trying to sway you with facts.
No mountain of facts could change a position held on faith.

Please don't argue with or slam this person.
He holds these positions faithfully
His response was honest and respectful.
But
Read the post and understand
Make a copy and save it somewhere for reference.
Whether this person agreed with what happened on 1/6 or not,
The actors on 1/6 shared his thoughts.

In addition to their opinions about the election, they considered themselves heroes.
They were Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and Roosevelt rolled into one
with a giant Q on their chest and a red-white-blue supersuit.
they were going to make history just like the founding fathers.
This is what makes them so dangerous.

Again, thank you for your honest response.
Many with your beliefs are unwilling to discuss them so openly.
For that, you are to be respected.
Thank you for the most poetic response I've gotten yet.
The vast majority of the people on 1/6 were morally blameless. The black block and some of the crazier Q people were in the wrong, but many of these people believed themselves to be acting in a lawful manner, approved by the capitol police.
Also, there is an impressive amount of evidence. If someone think I'm fabricating it, I should be much worse than the person who (allegedly, I haven't read all his comments) isn't offering any.
 
The best part is that 85 million Americans said they do not want Trump as their President
 

It just continues to pile up. The evidence that the 81 million is a bogus and highly inflated number. Dominion continues to lose county contracts at a blistering pace because they have nothing to hide right? Those are only the ones speaking out.....I'm sure even democrat controlled counties will quietly look for ways out of that scenario because as was demonstrated by Bernie Dominion sells primary results to the highest bidder as well as final ones. There is no way in Hell Biden has more support than Sanders in the real numbers.....I'll never buy that.

I can recall repigs suggesting the number of people who attended a trump rally compared to a Biden rally, was indicative of how trump was to win. That worked well.

You need to stop this childish rubbish about the election being stolen. For six months now it has multiplied your hatred and paranoia. Biden won democratically and no amount of bitching and whining will change that. Have another ten audits and re counts. Nothing will change.
You're like kids fighting over the last candy in the bag. Grow up. It's over.
I am an independent and yes Trump being able to get people to show up at his rallies is very indictative that TRump had and has the support of the AMerican people and would also get more at the polls which is looking to be exactly the case. Biden couldn't even get people to show up at his rallies----logic dictates no support for him for rallies would mean no support for him at the polls. Sorry that you don't like the facts.
 
Biden and his Rats stole this election from the American people.

It's time for them to go to jail.

Jesus Christ. Have we got a nut case here.
Nothing nutty about the truth.

You are right about that but to this point the truth of your allegations hasn't been revealed.

Those who continue to believe trump was dudded are complete nut cases.
History has been written and it correctly records trump was thrown out by his own Republican supporters who changed their mind. Suck it up boys and girls.
Suck it up yourself Dimmer watch the results of the audits.
 

It just continues to pile up. The evidence that the 81 million is a bogus and highly inflated number. Dominion continues to lose county contracts at a blistering pace because they have nothing to hide right? Those are only the ones speaking out.....I'm sure even democrat controlled counties will quietly look for ways out of that scenario because as was demonstrated by Bernie Dominion sells primary results to the highest bidder as well as final ones. There is no way in Hell Biden has more support than Sanders in the real numbers.....I'll never buy that.

I can recall repigs suggesting the number of people who attended a trump rally compared to a Biden rally, was indicative of how trump was to win. That worked well.

You need to stop this childish rubbish about the election being stolen. For six months now it has multiplied your hatred and paranoia. Biden won democratically and no amount of bitching and whining will change that. Have another ten audits and re counts. Nothing will change.
You're like kids fighting over the last candy in the bag. Grow up. It's over.
I am an independent and yes Trump being able to get people to show up at his rallies is very indictative that TRump had and has the support of the AMerican people and would also get more at the polls which is looking to be exactly the case.
The votes say otherwise. The people at the rallies represented a tiny fraction of the US population.....and skewed heavily white, conservative, male and republican.

They American people are far more diverse than those that attend a Trump rally.


Biden couldn't even get people to show up at his rallies----logic dictates no support for him for rallies would mean no support for him at the polls. Sorry that you don't like the facts.
Logic dictates that you ignore the pandemic as it relates to Biden's crowd sizes?

Biden encouraged people to stay home. He had socially distanced rallies with more than 6 feet between people so that the rallies he did have didn't become COVID spreading events.

Trump on the other hand ignored all such conventions. His disregard for his own safety and the safety of his supporters landed him in the ICU and Herman Cain in the morgue.

But 'logic' dictates you ignore all of that? I don't think 'logic' means what you think it means.
 
I am an independent and yes Trump being able to get people to show up at his rallies is very indictative that TRump had and has the support of the AMerican people and would also get more at the polls which is looking to be exactly the case.

Trump rallies were COVID pits. All those people jammed together with no masks killed off most of his support before they could vote
 

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