A challenge to ALL of you whining about P. Dean's firing

[AmyNation]

And now you sound like Paula Deen, whose answer was basically "boys will be boys".

 

[Google]

She admitted to racial slurs, race jokes, and porn in the workplace.

there is no workplace in the world where those things have not happened. lets not be so blatantly naive, OK?

You know, in all the jobs I've held, I've never had my boss call me into the office to look at porn. Or have him show me porn on his phone. Never.

I'm not familiar with the allegations of porn. Did it happen at her son's restaurant?

Having worked in the food service industry for way too long, I've heard some pretty offensive things. And restaurant managers are not always the most professional and brightest people out there. I have had managers show me offensive emails or revealing photos, but it never offended me and I personally don't think it was a big deal.

People in the restaurant business are generally thick skinned, you have to be, and the most racist things I've ever heard was said by black servers about black tables. I live in GA and white, black, Indian--every race of people I've worked with complained and made possibly racist remarks about their tables.

Remember that next time a server forgets your ranch and you flip out...

 

[Redfish]

And now you sound like Paula Deen, whose answer was basically "boys will be boys".

an employer should be able to fire an employee for any reason. But if I try to fire someone because I disagree with them politically I will wind up in court. If I fire a black female for ANY reason, I wll wind up in court. Is this what you call freedom?

 

[KevinWestern]

Never said that wasn't the case, but unfortunately she did admit to using racial slurs at some point in past, which was her decision ultimately (with regards to both using & admitting)..

Telling the truth might be the "right" thing to do, but sometimes it will cost you.

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She admitted to racial slurs, race jokes, and porn in the workplace.

there is no workplace in the world where those things have not happened. lets not be so blatantly naive, OK?

Redfish - I realize this happens all the time and that the population is very hypocritical on this.

However, when you're a public figure on a TV spot where the advertisers don't want any controversy, then you better damn well NOT use any racial slurs in a setting where people might call you out on it, and you better damn well NOT admit to using those slurs publicly. No one forced Paula to do either of those things.

Her own choices - her responsibility.

If the racial slur allegations were total hogwash, or if she never admitted to the slurs then perhaps I'd stick up for her (in the case the accusers were lying just to get $). That, however, is NOT the case.

Again, I don't have any sympathy for her...


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[Redfish]

She admitted to racial slurs, race jokes, and porn in the workplace.

there is no workplace in the world where those things have not happened. lets not be so blatantly naive, OK?

Redfish - I realize this happens all the time and that the population is very hypocritical on this.

However, when you're a public figure on a TV spot where the advertisers don't want any controversy, then you better damn well NOT use any racial slurs in a setting where people might call you out on it, and you better damn well NOT admit to using those slurs publicly.

Paula did both those things on her own accord, and as a public figure she's paying for it.

Again, I don't have any sympathy for her...


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well, thats the allegation from the ex-employee. Do you think its right to fire someone based on an unproven allegation?

She admitted using the N word years ago----BFD, who cares? who hasn't at some time used that word? Its just a word for crying out loud. whatever happened to "stick and stones------------------but words will never hurt me" ?

 

[AmyNation]

there is no workplace in the world where those things have not happened. lets not be so blatantly naive, OK?

You know, in all the jobs I've held, I've never had my boss call me into the office to look at porn. Or have him show me porn on his phone. Never.

I'm not familiar with the allegations of porn. Did it happen at her son's restaurant?

Having worked in the food service industry for way too long, I've heard some pretty offensive things. And restaurant managers are not always the most professional and brightest people out there. I have had managers show me offensive emails or revealing photos, but it never offended me and I personally don't think it was a big deal.

People in the restaurant business are generally thick skinned, you have to be, and the most racist things I've ever heard was said by black servers about black tables. I live in GA and white, black, Indian--every race of people I've worked with complained and made possibly racist remarks about their tables.

Remember that next time a server forgets your ranch and you flip out...

The allegation is agaisnt her brother calling female employees over to show them porn.

 

[Redfish]

This whole thing is lunacy. OJ Simpson was found not guilty because Mark Fuhrman said ****** years before-------------have we totally lost all common sense in this country?

 

[Redfish]

You know, in all the jobs I've held, I've never had my boss call me into the office to look at porn. Or have him show me porn on his phone. Never.

I'm not familiar with the allegations of porn. Did it happen at her son's restaurant?

Having worked in the food service industry for way too long, I've heard some pretty offensive things. And restaurant managers are not always the most professional and brightest people out there. I have had managers show me offensive emails or revealing photos, but it never offended me and I personally don't think it was a big deal.

People in the restaurant business are generally thick skinned, you have to be, and the most racist things I've ever heard was said by black servers about black tables. I live in GA and white, black, Indian--every race of people I've worked with complained and made possibly racist remarks about their tables.

Remember that next time a server forgets your ranch and you flip out...

The allegation is agaisnt her brother calling female employees over to show them porn.

so now she is liable for the actions of her brother? Damn, what did her great great grandfather do? where does this shit end?

 

[AmyNation]

I'm not familiar with the allegations of porn. Did it happen at her son's restaurant?

Having worked in the food service industry for way too long, I've heard some pretty offensive things. And restaurant managers are not always the most professional and brightest people out there. I have had managers show me offensive emails or revealing photos, but it never offended me and I personally don't think it was a big deal.

People in the restaurant business are generally thick skinned, you have to be, and the most racist things I've ever heard was said by black servers about black tables. I live in GA and white, black, Indian--every race of people I've worked with complained and made possibly racist remarks about their tables.

Remember that next time a server forgets your ranch and you flip out...

The allegation is agaisnt her brother calling female employees over to show them porn.

so now she is liable for the actions of her brother? Damn, what did her great great grandfather do? where does this shit end?

If you don't know anything about this case, why are you commenting on it?

 

[KevinWestern]

there is no workplace in the world where those things have not happened. lets not be so blatantly naive, OK?

Redfish - I realize this happens all the time and that the population is very hypocritical on this.

However, when you're a public figure on a TV spot where the advertisers don't want any controversy, then you better damn well NOT use any racial slurs in a setting where people might call you out on it, and you better damn well NOT admit to using those slurs publicly.

Paula did both those things on her own accord, and as a public figure she's paying for it.

Again, I don't have any sympathy for her...


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well, thats the allegation from the ex-employee. Do you think its right to fire someone based on an unproven allegation?

She admitted using the N word years ago----BFD, who cares? who hasn't at some time used that word? Its just a word for crying out loud. whatever happened to "stick and stones------------------but words will never hurt me" ?

Redfish - Personally, I think Paula was sincere in her apology and I don't think any different of her (I realize the circumstances and where she grew up, ect. Whatever). But this isn't about what you or I think, it's about what the viewership thinks.

Lets go over the facts one more time:

1.) Paula was a daytime host for a wholesome cooking show. Advertisers are looking for zero controversy.
2.) Paula publicly admitted to calling a black fellow a N**ger and now everyone in the country knows.

There's no getting around the fact that those two things don't mix, period.

Paula might have been blackmailed, screwed over, etc, etc but what's done is done and there's no way the Food Network is going to let her stay on because it's going to mean A LOSS OF DOLLARS.

The Food Network is a business, and businesses make money for its shareholders. When something comes in the way of making money, they remove the obstacle (which they did).

Call it bad luck, call it whatever you want, but these are the circumstances and there's no changing them. Paula has no right to sue the network for making a solid business decision.

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[AmyNation]

Paula Deen is being sued because she co-owns the restrarunt with her brother.

Paula Deen should fire her lawyer. The deposition is 149 pages and reads like she was drunk. Her responses are bizarre and clearly her lawyer is incompetent and didn't prep her properly or she was hitting the bottle before she went in.

 

[OriginalShroom]

Redfish - I realize this happens all the time and that the population is very hypocritical on this.

However, when you're a public figure on a TV spot where the advertisers don't want any controversy, then you better damn well NOT use any racial slurs in a setting where people might call you out on it, and you better damn well NOT admit to using those slurs publicly.

Paula did both those things on her own accord, and as a public figure she's paying for it.

Again, I don't have any sympathy for her...


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well, thats the allegation from the ex-employee. Do you think its right to fire someone based on an unproven allegation?

She admitted using the N word years ago----BFD, who cares? who hasn't at some time used that word? Its just a word for crying out loud. whatever happened to "stick and stones------------------but words will never hurt me" ?

Redfish - Personally, I think Paula was sincere in her apology and I don't think any different of her (I realize the circumstances and where she grew up, ect. Whatever). But this isn't about what you or I think, it's about what the viewership thinks.

Lets go over the facts one more time:

1.) Paula's a daytime host for a wholesome show where the advertisers don't want any controversy
2.) Paula publicly admitted to calling a black fellow a N**ger and now everyone knows.

Those two things don't mix. Paula might have been blackmailed, screwed over, etc, etc but what's done is done and there's no way the Food Network is going to let her stay on because it's going to mean A LOSS OF DOLLARS.

The Food Network is a business, and businesses make money for its shareholders. When something comes in the way of making money, they remove the obstacle (which they did).

Call it bad luck, call it whatever you want, but these are the circumstances and there's no changing them. Paula has no right to sue the network for making a solid business decision.

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You are leaving out the fact that the fellow she called a "******" years ago was a bank robber who was sticking a gun in people's faces.

It's not like she just walked up to a black man and called him a "******" to his face for no reason.

It's also not like she said “I want to go up to the closest white person and say, ‘You can’t understand this, it’s a black thing,’ and then slap him just for my mental health.”

 

[KevinWestern]

This whole thing is lunacy. OJ Simpson was found not guilty because Mark Fuhrman said ****** years before-------------have we totally lost all common sense in this country?

OJ was found not guilty because the police department flubbed the investigation. If they were more professional and thorough the man would be behind bars...

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[Redfish]

Redfish - I realize this happens all the time and that the population is very hypocritical on this.

However, when you're a public figure on a TV spot where the advertisers don't want any controversy, then you better damn well NOT use any racial slurs in a setting where people might call you out on it, and you better damn well NOT admit to using those slurs publicly.

Paula did both those things on her own accord, and as a public figure she's paying for it.

Again, I don't have any sympathy for her...


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well, thats the allegation from the ex-employee. Do you think its right to fire someone based on an unproven allegation?

She admitted using the N word years ago----BFD, who cares? who hasn't at some time used that word? Its just a word for crying out loud. whatever happened to "stick and stones------------------but words will never hurt me" ?

Redfish - Personally, I think Paula was sincere in her apology and I don't think any different of her (I realize the circumstances and where she grew up, ect. Whatever). But this isn't about what you or I think, it's about what the viewership thinks.

Lets go over the facts one more time:

1.) Paula was a daytime host for a wholesome cooking show. Advertisers are looking for zero controversy.
2.) Paula publicly admitted to calling a black fellow a N**ger and now everyone in the country knows.

There's no getting around the fact that those two things don't mix, period.

Paula might have been blackmailed, screwed over, etc, etc but what's done is done and there's no way the Food Network is going to let her stay on because it's going to mean A LOSS OF DOLLARS.

The Food Network is a business, and businesses make money for its shareholders. When something comes in the way of making money, they remove the obstacle (which they did).

Call it bad luck, call it whatever you want, but these are the circumstances and there's no changing them. Paula has no right to sue the network for making a solid business decision.

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I agree, her employer has the right to fire her for any reason. I am just trying to point out the hypocrisy of the left. They want to make it impossible to fire an incompetent minority employee, but are fine with firing someone for uttering a single word years ago.

 

[Redfish]

This whole thing is lunacy. OJ Simpson was found not guilty because Mark Fuhrman said ****** years before-------------have we totally lost all common sense in this country?

OJ was found not guilty because the police department flubbed the investigation. If they were more professional and thorough the man would be behind bars...

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LOL, he was found not guilty because a predominately black jury decided that they would not convict a brother, no matter what the evidence showed. Fuhrman using the N word just gave them more justification to let a guilty man off.

 

[KevinWestern]

You are leaving out the fact that the fellow she called a "******" years ago was a bank robber who was sticking a gun in people's faces.

It's not like she just walked up to a black man and called him a "******" to his face for no reason.

It's also not like she said “I want to go up to the closest white person and say, ‘You can’t understand this, it’s a black thing,’ and then slap him just for my mental health.”

Shroom - I'm fully aware of the circumstance, and (again) personally I don't have any gripes with the lady because I feel her explanation & apology was sincere. But that is wholly unimportant.

The fact still remains that she admitted to calling a black person a n**ger, period, and that sort of admission doesn't fly well when your profession is a daytime host on a network that gets paid by advertisers who want zero controversy. In the world of TV, it's not profitable to have someone who's admitted to using racial slurs in a wholesome daytime slot. It's not rocket science..

I don't understand why people are upset at the Food Network; they're making a straightforward, logical call here.

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[OriginalShroom]

You are leaving out the fact that the fellow she called a "******" years ago was a bank robber who was sticking a gun in people's faces.

It's not like she just walked up to a black man and called him a "******" to his face for no reason.

It's also not like she said “I want to go up to the closest white person and say, ‘You can’t understand this, it’s a black thing,’ and then slap him just for my mental health.”

Shroom - I'm fully aware of the circumstance, and (again) personally I don't have any gripes with the lady because I feel her explanation & apology was sincere. But (again) what I think is NOT important. The fact still remains that she admitted to calling a black person a n**ger, period, and that sort of admission doesn't fly well when your profession is a daytime host on a network that gets paid by advertisers who want zero controversy.

I don't understand why people are upset at the Food Network; they're making a straightforward, logical call here.

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If you are aware of it, then are you leaving that fact out when you are posting about her "sin"?

Leaving out important facts is wrong.. Just as I should have also stated that the comments were made to her husband in the privacy of her home, not in public.

 

[buckeye45_73]

You are leaving out the fact that the fellow she called a "******" years ago was a bank robber who was sticking a gun in people's faces.

It's not like she just walked up to a black man and called him a "******" to his face for no reason.

It's also not like she said “I want to go up to the closest white person and say, ‘You can’t understand this, it’s a black thing,’ and then slap him just for my mental health.”

Shroom - I'm fully aware of the circumstance, and (again) personally I don't have any gripes with the lady because I feel her explanation & apology was sincere. But that is wholly unimportant.

The fact still remains that she admitted to calling a black person a n**ger, period, and that sort of admission doesn't fly well when your profession is a daytime host on a network that gets paid by advertisers who want zero controversy. In the world of TV, it's not profitable to have someone who's admitted to using racial slurs in a wholesome daytime slot. It's not rocket science..

I don't understand why people are upset at the Food Network; they're making a straightforward, logical call here.

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so for a rappers, it's an important part of street cred?

 

[PredFan]

Maher did lose his show for saying terrorists weren't cowards...

And he shouldn't have. What part of "Politically Incorrect" did ABC not understand?

 

[Pogo]

Yeah, and try to organize a wedding like the following:

I wonder what party she is in, priceless!!!!!

Really, you wonder what party a fucking television cook is in....

-- why?