A few question's for atheists ?

[Yoda]

So what you're saying is man can't prove the bible wrong nor can the bible prove the bible wrong.hmm i will continue trusting in the bible and what it contains as far as information concerning God and life.

Oh and science can prove science wrong.

WOW!! Look at the big brain on this guy! The truth is that science constantly retest's itself and the next discovery can change everything or confirm theory into law. "God" can't be tested or confirmed anymore than Peter Pan. Simply due to the fact that "God" (I'm assuming that your speaking of the God of Abraham) has never existed outside of the scriptures that created him. There were plenty of religions and "God's" that pre-date yours. Secondly, you have to keep going back to the bible as evidence for your God because there simply is no evidence anywhere else, unlike science, which is all around you every day.

Also, how is it silly to accept the big bang (which, if you actually knew what you were talking about, hasn't been the prevailing theory in 10 years) and evolution, when you believe a man can live in a belly of a fish, angels, demons, an invisible all knowing being, the Devil, a man that walked on water and comanded the weather, healed the sick, rose the dead, rose himself from the dead, feed 1000 peolpe from 1 loaf of bread, a virgin birth, people being turned into a pillers of salt, and driving evil spirits out of people and into pigs forever ruining hot dogs

Do you see how childish and absolutly insane you have to be to believe in such non-sense? Believe me, Science, at times, can be out there but it has nothing on that book that you believing to be a credible source.

If a person believes that there is a creator capable of creating the universe and all life it's pretty simple to hold on to the view that there is nothing that he is not capable of doing.

My damaged brain can best your brain at any moment on just about any subject do you care to test the hypothesis ? please don't embarrass yourself.

You 're a little tool that took a class and now you think you have all the answers let's see genius.

LOL!! How very Christian of you! You prove my point about religion. You question and refute anything that questions it, but when the tables are turned, the religion you profess to fight for get thrown out the window and you resort to tactics thats exactly the opposite of what your fighting for. At heart, you prove that your faith is a lie and christianity is a fairy tale because when the real world comes knocking, everyone can easily see that it's not in your nature and that's the overall problem. The bible contradicts human nature. As you have proven through your own plight on this subject.

I do agree with one thing, anyone who capable of believing a non-existant invisible being is capable of anything. It's called mental illness. As far as I believe "whatever I read on the internet", I assure you that I believe in what I can measure, see, touch, smell, taste, feel and tangible. I don't believe in fairy tale from war torn, opressed, broken nations that has never known anything but pain, suffering, oppression, war, desease and death. That's all religion and "God" has brought to the world.

 

[Yoda]

Give me an example ?

I assure you i diligently study the scriptures as i do with all the classes i have ever taken.

A smart man, reasons out what he learns and a dumb man will accept and never test what he has learned.

You make such a quote and yet you're making a case for the untested/unproven?

Science reasons what is learned.
Religion accepts what has never been tested.

Really,we don't believe in gravity ?

We don't believe the earth is round ?

We don't believe science research benefits our health ?

We don't believe the universe is expanding ?

All of which is spoken of in the bible i could go on and on.

Now you provide an explantion as to why you believe that life is a product of chance ?

1. Gravity- Founded by science. Thank you!
2. No- The bible mentions the earth having corners.
3. My point, thanks for using it. Science helps people, not God.
4. Measuring and seeing the universe. Brought to you by Science!!
5. Really? or is it that your twisting scripture to suit what you want it to say. Where does the bible talk of scientific break throughs, space exploration, or the earth actually being round?

How can I explain that life was a product by chance? One are we talking life as we know it, or life period? There maybe a difference. We have Lucy, Neandertals and fossils that pre-date your religion. Bible and Jewish belief is that earth is what? just over 5,000 years old? We have discovered things that pre-date that. How do you explain that disrepancy? Also, there are traits on earth that are unique to any other planet (that we have discovered so far). As far as your question "why hasn't science created life". I would say that it does everyday. You see, when male sperm meets a female egg........

I guess you have to study more to find out the rest there smart guy!

 

[Youwerecreated]

Please answer my question; New Testament or Old Testament?

Life started on the microscopic level with the right conditions of sun, water and oxygen, then evolved from there.

I'm not sure what your question is concerning the old testament and the new testament ? If your presupposition was accurate than why can't competent scientist in labs under perfect conditions produce life from the necessary substances ?

Hmmm...thought so...

New Testament Contradictions
G. CONCLUSIONS REACHED SO FAR
From looking at just the birth accounts several conclusions can be reached, all of which will be further reinforced by examining other parts of the New Testament:

1. The gospel writers contradict each other.

2. The gospel writers rewrote history when it suited their purposes.

3. The gospels were extensively edited to accommodate the evolving dogma of the church.

4. The gospel writers misused the Old Testament to provide prophecies for Jesus to fulfill.

From the birth accounts alone, it is obvious that in no way can the New Testament be considered "the inerrant Word of God," or even "the Word of God, inerrant regarding matters important to faith and practice."

101 Contradictions Old Testament
. Man was created equal, male and female. Gen.1:27.
Woman was created as a companion to the man only after he rejected the animals. Gen.2:18-24.

Man was created after the plants. Gen.1:12, 26.
Man was created before the plants. Gen.2:5-9.
The birds were created out of the water. Gen.1:20.
The birds were created out of the land. Gen.2:19.
The animals were created before man. Gen.1:24-26.
The animals were created after man. Gen.2:19.
On the first day, God created and separated light and darkness. Gen.1:3-5.
On the fourth day, God again created and separated light and darkness. Gen.1:14-18.
God encouraged reproduction. Gen.1:28.
He said it was an unclean process. Lev.12:1-8 (Note that bearing a daughter is more unclean than bearing a son).
God was pleased with his creation. Gen.1:31.
God was not pleased with his creation. Gen.6:6.
Adam was to die the day he ate the forbidden fruit. Gen.2:17.
Adam lived 930 years. Gen.5:5.
The name of "The Lord" was known in the beginning. Gen.4:26; Gen.12:8; Gen.22:14; Gen.26:25.
The name of "The Lord" was not known in the beginning. Ex.6:3.
God preferred Abel's offering to Cain's. Gen.4:4, 5.
God shows no partiality. 2 Chr.19:7; 2 Sam.14:14.
God asks Cain the whereabouts of his brother. Gen.4:9.
God goes to see what is happening. Gen.18:20, 21.
God is everywhere and sees everything. Prov.15:3; Jer.16:17; Jer.23:24.
It rained on the earth. Gen.7:4.
There was rain from above and below. Gen.8:2.
Two pairs of each kind were to be taken aboard Noah's ark. Gen.6:19, 20; Gen.7:9, 14-16.
Two pairs and seven pairs of some kinds were to be taken aboard. Gen.7:2, 3.
Noah entered the ark during the Flood. Gen.7:7.
Noah entered the ark after the Flood. Gen.7:12, 13.
There were many languages before the tower at Babel. Gen.10:5, 20, 31.
There was only one language before the tower at Babel. Gen.11:1.
Abraham married his half-sister and was blessed. Gen.11:29; Gen.17:15,16; Gen.20:11,12.
Incest is wrong. Deut.27:22; Lev. 18:9; Lev. 20:17.
Abraham made a covenant with Abimelech and Phichol. Gen.21:22, 27, 32.
It was Isaac who made the covenant with Abimelech and Phichol. Gen.26:26-28.
Hebron was the name at the time of Abraham. Gen.23:2.
Hebron was named differently. Josh.14:15.
Jacob's name was changed at Peniel. Gen.32:28-30.
Jacob's name was changed at Padanaram. Gen.35:9,10.
Isaac's servants dug a well at Beer-shebah. Gen.26:32, 33.
Abraham dug a well at Beer-shebah. Gen.21:29-31.
Esau married two Hittite women. Gen.26:34.
Esau married three Canaanite women. Gen.36:2, 3.
Bashemath was a daughter of Elon the Hittite. Gen.26:34.
Bashemath was a daughter of Ishmael. Gen.36:3.
Luz was renamed Beth-el. Gen.28:19.
Luz was a different place than Beth-el. Josh.16:2.
God renamed Jacob and called him Israel. Gen.35:10.
God forgot the new name. Gen.46:2.
Eliphaz had six sons. Gen.36:11,12.
Eliphaz had seven sons. Gen.36:15,16. Eliphaz had seven different sons. 1 Chr.1:36.
Dan had one son. Gen.46:23.
Amazingly, this one son produced over 62,000 military-age males by the first census. Num.1:38,39.
Moses married a Midianite. Ex.3:1.
Moses married an Ethiopian. Num.12:1.
All the beasts died in plague number six. Ex.9:6.
All the beasts received boils in plague number seven. Ex.9:10.
All the beasts were hit with hail and fire in plague number eight. Ex.9:25.
All the beasts lost their firstborn in plague number ten. Ex.12:29.
All the plant life was destroyed by hail. Ex.9:25.
All the plant life was destroyed by locusts. Ex.10:15.
God instructs the Israelites to spoil the Egyptians and plunder their enemies. Ex.3:22; Deut.20:13-17.
God prohibits stealing or defrauding a neighbor. Lev.19:11,13.
Moses' father-in-law proposed the idea of judges for the people. Ex.18:17, 24.
Moses proposed the idea of judges for the people. Deut.1:9-18.
Jethro was the name of Moses' father-in-law. Ex.3:1.
Ruel was the name of Moses' father-in-law. Ex.2:18.
Raguel was the name of Moses' father-in-law. Num.10:29.
Hobab was the name of Moses' father-in-law. Jud.4:11.
The priests were with Moses at Mount Sinai. Ex.19:22, 24.
Moses appointed the first priests later in the wilderness. Ex.28:1.
Moses was great. Ex.11:3.
Moses was meek. Numbers 12:3.
Moses was the only allowed near God. Ex.24:2.
Moses was not the only one allowed. Ex.24:9-11.
Moses condemned the making of an idol. Ex.32:19, 20.
Moses made an idol. Num.21:9; 2 Ki.18:4.
The commandments were memorably given at the beginning of the wilderness trek. Ex. 19 and 20.
The people appeared not to remember later in the wilderness. Lev.24:12; Num.15:34.
Moses told the people they would pass over the Jordan that day. Deut.9:1.
It was Joshua who took them over much later. Josh.1:1, 2.
The number of Israelites, excluding children, was 600,000. Ex.12:37.
The number of Israelites, including children, was only 7000. 1 Ki.20:15.
Manna tasted like coriander seed and honey. Ex.16:31.
Manna tasted like fresh oil. Num.11:8.
The Sabbath Day was to remember creation. Ex.20:11; Ex. 31:17.
The Sabbath Day was to remember the sojourn in Egypt. Deut.5:15.
God details sacrificial offerings. Ex.20:24; Ex.29:10-42; Lev.1:1-17; Num.28:1-31.
God says he did not order sacrifices. Jer.7:22.
The Book of Jasher was written at the time of Joshua. Josh.10:13.
The Book of Jasher was written at the time of David. 2 Sam.1:17,18.
The Israelites were a numerous and mighty people. Ex.1:8, 9.
The Israelites were few in number. Deut.7:7.
The Israelites had plenty of water to wash their clothes for purification. Ex.19:10.
The Israelites had no water and rioted for a drink. Ex.15:22-24.
God was with the people. Ex.3:12.
God was not with the people. Ex.33:3.
Aaron died on Mt. Hor. Num.20:27, 28; 33:38,39.
Aaron died at Mosera. Deut.10:6.
After Aaron's death, the people journeyed from Mt. Hor to Zalmonah to Punon etc. Num.33:41, 42.
After Aaron's death, the people journeyed from Mosera to Gudgodah to Jotbath. Deut.10:6, 7.
The Canaanites were utterly destroyed. Num.21:3.
The Canaanites were left to trouble the Israelites for years. Jud.3:1,2.
Stones were taken out of the Jordan River. Josh.4:3.
Stones were placed in the Jordan River. Josh.4:9.
The Nazarite vow is broken if one goes near a dead body. Numb.6:6-9.
Sampson, a Nazarite, apparently did not break this vow. Jud.13:5; 15:8,15,16; 16:17.
Samuel ministered to the "Lord". 1 Sam.3:1.
Samuel did not know the "Lord". 1 Sam.3:7.
David killed Goliath. 1 Sam.17:49,50.
Elhanan killed Goliath. 2 Sam.21:19-21. (Notice that the phrase "the brother of" has been added).
"God" caused David to number the people. 2 Sam.24:1.
"Satan" caused David to number the people. 1 Chr.21:1.
Saul utterly destroyed the Amalekites. 1 Sam.15:20.
David utterly destroyed the Amalekites. 1 Sam.27:8, 9.
David destroyed the Amalekites - again - almost. 1 Sam.30:1,17,18.
God chose Saul to save the people from the Philistines. 1 Sam.9:15-17.
Saul dies and the Philistines overrun the Israelites. 1 Sam.31:6, 7.
God chose Saul. 1 Sam.9:16.
God repents for choosing Saul. 1 Sam.15:35.
God doesn't need to repent. Num. 23:19.
Saul inquired of God but received no answer. 1 Sam.28:6.
Saul died for not inquiring. 1 Chr.10:13, 14.
Saul killed himself. 1 Sam.31:4; 1 Chr. 10:4, 5.
Someone killed Saul. 2 Sam.1:5-10.
The Philistines killed Saul. 2 Sam.21:12.
God killed Saul. 1 Chr.10:13,14.
Jesse had eight sons. 1 Sam.16:10, 11; 1 Sam.17:12.
Jesse had seven sons. 1 Chr.2:13-15.
Saul knew David before the encounter with Goliath. 1 Sam.16:19.
Saul did not know David until after the encounter with Goliath. 1 Sam.17:55-58.
Michal was childless. 2 Sam.6:23.
Michal had five sons. 2 Sam.21:8.
David sinned in taking the census. 2 Sam.24:10,25.
David's only sin, ever, was another matter. 1 Ki.15:5.
David paid 50 pieces of silver for the property. 2 Sam.24:24.
David paid 600 pieces of gold for the property. 1 Chr.21:25.
His name was Solomon. 2 Sam.12:24; 1 Chr.22:9.
His name was Jedidiah. 2 Sam.12:25.
Solomon had 40,000 stalls of horses. 1 Ki.4:26.
Solomon had 4,000 stalls of horses. 2 Chr.9:25.
Solomon had 3300 supervisors. 1 Ki.5:16.
Solomon had 3600 supervisors. 2 Chr.2:2.
Solomon's "molten sea" held 2000 "baths". 1 Ki.7:26.
Solomon's "molten sea" held 3000 "baths". 2 Chr.4:5.
Solomon had thousands of horses. 1 Ki.4:26.
A King must not multiply horses to himself. Deut.17:15,16.
Solomon had hundreds of wives. 1 Ki.11:1-3.
A King must not multiply wives to himself. Deut.17:17.
There was no greater king before or after Hezekiah. 2 Ki.18:1, 5.
There was no greater king before or after Josiah. 2 Ki.23:24, 25.
Ahaziah was twenty-two years old when he began to reign. 2 Ki.8:26.
Ahaziah succeeded his father, who was thirty-two years old when he became king and who ruled for eight years. 2 Chr.21;20.
He was forty-two years old when he began to reign. 2 Chr.22:2. (Note that some versions have caught the error and corrected it.)
God prohibits the making of idols. Ex.20:4; Deut.5:8, 9.
God commands idols to be made. Ex.25:18; Num.21:8, 9.
Children are to suffer for their parent's sins. Ex.20:5; Ex.34:7; Num.14:18; Deut.5:9; Is.14:21.
Children are not to suffer for their parent's sins. Deut.24:16; Ezek.18:19,20.
God prohibits the killing of the innocent. Ex.23:7.
God approves the killing of the innocent. Num.31:17; Josh.6:21; Josh.7:24-26; Josh.8:22-25; Josh.10:20, 40; Josh.11:15; 1 Sam.15:3.
God inflicts sickness. Num.11:33; 2 Chr.21:14, 15.
Satan inflicts sickness. Job 2:7.
Death to a false prophet. Deut.18:20.
Death also to a real prophet deceived by "God". Ezek.14:9.
God remembers sin even when it has been forgiven. Ex.34:7.
God does not remember sin after it has been forgiven. Jer.31:34.
God promised the land to the people. Ex.12:25.
God broke his promise. Num.14:30, 31.
Sisera was sleeping when Jael killed him. Jud.4:21.
Sisera was standing and apparently, allowed Jael to kill him. Jud.5:25-27.
Joshua captured Debir. Josh.10:38,39.
Othniel captured Debir. Jud.1:11-13.
God sows discord. Gen.11:7-9.
God hates those who cause discord. Prov.6:16-19.
The census count was: Israel 800,000 and Judah 500,000. 2 Sam.24:9.
The census count was: Israel 1,100,000 and Judah 470,000. 1 Chr.21:5.
The two pillars were 18 cubits high. 1 Ki.7:15.
The two pillars were 35 cubits high. 2 Chr.3:15.
420 talents of gold were brought back from Ophir. 1 Ki.9:28.
450 talents of gold were brought back from Ophir. 2 Chr.8:18.
Asa removed the high places. 2 Chr.14:2, 3.
Asa did not remove the high places. 1 Ki.15:14.
Baasha died in the 26tth year of King Asa's reign. 1 Ki.16:6-8.
Baasha built a city in the 36th year of King Asa's reign. 2 Chr.16:1.
Jehoshaphat did not remove the high places. 1 Ki.22:42, 43.
Jehoshaphat did remove the high places. 2 Chr.17:5, 6.
Jehu's massacre was acceptable to God. 2 Ki.10:30.
Jehu's massacre was not acceptable to God. Hos.1:4.
Jehu shot Ahaziah near Ibleam. Ahaziah then fled to Meggido and died there. 2 Ki.9:27.
Ahaziah was found hiding in Samaria, brought to Jehu, and was then put to death. 2 Chr.22:9.
Ahaz was not conquered. 2 Ki.165.
Ahaz was conquered. 2 Chr.28:5.
Jehoiachin was 18 years old when he began to reign. 2 Ki.24:8.
Jehoiachin was 8 years old when he began to reign. 2 Chr.36:9. (Some versions have corrected this)
Jehoiachin reigned 3 months. 2 Ki.24:8.
Jehoiachin reigned 3 months and 10 days. 2 Chr.36:9.
Jehoiachin was succeeded by his uncle. 2 Ki.24:17.
Jehoiachin was succeeded by his brother. 2 Chr.36:10.
The father of Zerubbabel was Pedaiah. 1 Chr.3:19.
The father of Zerubbabel was Shealtiel. Ezr.3:2.
God is near to all who call on him. Ps.145:18.
God is far away and cannot be found in times of need. Ps.10:1.
God sometimes forsakes his children. Ps.22:1, 2.
God is always a present help. Ps.46:1.
The righteous shall rejoice when he sees vengeance. Ps.58:10, 11.
Do not rejoice when your enemy falls or stumbles. Prov.24:17.
God stands to judge. Is.3:13.
God sits to judge. Joel 3:12.
Zedekiah watched his sons be put to death, then he had his eyes put out, and was left to die in prison. Jer.52:10, 11.
God promised Zedekiah a peaceful death. Jer.34:4, 5.
Omri reigned 12 years beginning in the 31st year of Asa's reign. 1 Ki.16:23.
Omri died and his son began his reign in the 38th year of Asa's reign, making Omri's reign only 7-years. 1 Ki.16:28, 29

Old Testament vs. New Testament - What are the differences?

Question: "Old Testament vs. New Testament - What are the differences?"

Answer: The Old Testament lays the foundation for the teachings and events found in the New Testament. The Bible is a progressive revelation. If you skip the first half of any good book and try to finish it, you will have a hard time understanding the characters, the plot, and the ending. In the same way, the New Testament is only completely understood when it is seen as a fulfillment of the events, characters, laws, sacrificial system, covenants, and promises of the Old Testament.

Even the brainwashed are confused...
Is the God of the Old Testament Different From the God of the New? - Come Reason Ministries

Is the God of the Old Testament Different From the God of the New?
Lenny,

I find it very interesting how different God is portrayed in the OT vs. Yeshua in the NT. I am a devoted follower of Yeshua and believe strongly in the inerrancy of the original communication of the Bible to Man. I wonder if Man misunderstood the communication of YHWH and the testimony we hear in the OT is mistranslated. For instance, how could the God of Justice in the OT order the slaughtering of non-believers that perhaps never heard the Word and in the NT, Yeshua turned the other cheek. This dichotomy is very difficult to resolve. How do you resolve it?



Read more: Is the God of the Old Testament Different From the God of the New? - Come Reason Ministries

A reference to man, is a reference to the human race sometimes correct ? A little reasoning is sometimes required.

Gen 6:7 And Jehovah said, I will destroy man whom I have created, from the face of the earth, both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air. For I repent that I have made them.

He did create man male and female the only thing he didn't say at that moment was when he created the woman. The man and woman are a compliments to each other they're equals, just in the family arrangement man has the final decision.

Man was created on the 6th day.

Gen 1:27 And God created man in His image; in the image of God He created him. He created them male and female.
Gen 1:28 And God blessed them. And God said to them, Be fruitful, and multiply and fill the earth, and subdue it. And have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the heavens, and all animals that move upon the earth.
Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold! I have given you every herb seeding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree in which is the fruit of a tree seeding seed; to you it shall be for food.
Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the heavens, and to every creeper on the earth which has in it a living soul every green plant is for food; and it was so.
Gen 1:31 And God saw everything that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day

Commentary on Gen 2:5-9, 15-17

We have a very different creation story today. This section is chiefly concerned with the creation of Man, the human person. It is much older than the narrative from which we read yesterday (Gen 1:1-2:4). It comes from the Yahwistic source. It is not, as is sometimes said, a second creation narrative. Rather it focuses on the creation of Man as distinct from the creation of the world and is only complete with the separate creation of Woman and the appearance of the first human couple

Here God is depicted as creating Man before the rest of his creatures, which are made for Man’s sake. It is not realistic but this is not history, still less science. The meaning is to show the priority of Man in the order of things on this earth.

On the day on which the Lord made the earth and the heavens (the vault of the sky with its heavenly bodies), there was as yet no plant of any kind because no rain had yet begun to fall nor was there anyone to till the ground until a stream rose from the earth and covered the whole ground with water, on that very day the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the earth and then breathed into the nostrils of the inert body the breath of life so that the man became a living being (literally a living “soul”). The picture is of God working like a potter moulding the human body out of the clay of the earth. In the Hebrew there is a play on the words adam (‘man’) coming from adama (‘the ground’).

In this version of creation, humanity does not - as in yesterday’s reading - appear at the end of a long process of creation when all the lesser creatures were brought into being first, but comes into existence at the very beginning before anything else, even before the plants necessary for his survival.

Only then did the Lord God plant a garden in the east, in Eden. (Note: the garden is not Eden but in Eden). In this garden, he put the Man. In the garden also he placed every kind of plant that was pleasant to look at and providing fruit that was good to eat, as well as the “tree of life” (a symbol of the immortality which the Man was intended to enjoy) and the “tree of the knowledge of good and evil”.

The name “Eden” is used here as the name of a region in southern Mesopotamia (southern Iraq today) but does not actually correspond to any known site. The term comes from a Sumerian word eden, meaning “fertile plain”. A similar-sounding word in Hebrew means “delight” so Eden is understood as a “garden of delight”. Through the Greek translation of the Hebrew we get the word “Paradise” which literally means a “pleasure park”.

The man’s responsibility was to cultivate it and look after it. The man was also told that he was free to eat all and any of the plants in the garden (including, apparently, fruit from the “tree of life”).

The overall impression given is that life was easy and exceedingly pleasant. But there was one special exception. The man was not to eat the fruit from the “tree of the knowledge of good and evil”. Otherwise he would be doomed to death. Eating the fruit, as we shall see, did not bring about instant death. After eating the fruit, they survived but death would come as the end of a miserable existence of toil and sorrow. Sin, by separating us from God, can only lead to death.

The Man was master of his world but, with this one exception it was made clear that God was master of the Man and that this relationship would be acknowledged by the Man obeying this command of the Lord God.

The whole world is God’s gift to us but we need to remember that we have to enjoy it responsibly and not do it harm. Also we need always to conform our living to that vision of life that we have received from God through Jesus Christ and his Word. For us, Jesus and his Way is truly a tree of Life. “I have come that they may have life, life in abundance” (John 10:10)

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It does not say birds were created from water

Swarmers could be fish ills and such things birds were seperate.

Gen 1:20 And God said, Let the waters swarm with swarmers having a living soul; and let birds fly over the earth on the face of the expanse of the heavens.

Punctuation is your friend.

Yes all living creatures were created from ingredients of the ground your source has a poor understanding of the scriptures.

There are no contradictions in the bible period except by your poor understanding of whats written.

There are no contradictions in the bible

Bible Contradictions Answered

For the most thorough rebuttal to your claims go here.

BIBLE CONTRADICTIONS ANSWERED -- Biblical Errors Mistakes Difficulties Discrepancies Countered

 

[Youwerecreated]

You make such a quote and yet you're making a case for the untested/unproven?

Science reasons what is learned.
Religion accepts what has never been tested.

You are probably the most ignorant poster i have come across.

lol, when you're out of facts, resort to insults

Nope that was a fact, i have seen someone on hannity that tried the same poopoo with the same screen name he was exposed there and he will be here to.

My tolerance level for ignorant rude people is very low these days. Did you not see his reply concerning me speaking of having a stroke and he mocked my brain to me that shows his character or lack there of.

 

[Youwerecreated]

WOW!! Look at the big brain on this guy! The truth is that science constantly retest's itself and the next discovery can change everything or confirm theory into law. "God" can't be tested or confirmed anymore than Peter Pan. Simply due to the fact that "God" (I'm assuming that your speaking of the God of Abraham) has never existed outside of the scriptures that created him. There were plenty of religions and "God's" that pre-date yours. Secondly, you have to keep going back to the bible as evidence for your God because there simply is no evidence anywhere else, unlike science, which is all around you every day.

Also, how is it silly to accept the big bang (which, if you actually knew what you were talking about, hasn't been the prevailing theory in 10 years) and evolution, when you believe a man can live in a belly of a fish, angels, demons, an invisible all knowing being, the Devil, a man that walked on water and comanded the weather, healed the sick, rose the dead, rose himself from the dead, feed 1000 peolpe from 1 loaf of bread, a virgin birth, people being turned into a pillers of salt, and driving evil spirits out of people and into pigs forever ruining hot dogs

Do you see how childish and absolutly insane you have to be to believe in such non-sense? Believe me, Science, at times, can be out there but it has nothing on that book that you believing to be a credible source.

If a person believes that there is a creator capable of creating the universe and all life it's pretty simple to hold on to the view that there is nothing that he is not capable of doing.

My damaged brain can best your brain at any moment on just about any subject do you care to test the hypothesis ? please don't embarrass yourself.

You 're a little tool that took a class and now you think you have all the answers let's see genius.

LOL!! How very Christian of you! You prove my point about religion. You question and refute anything that questions it, but when the tables are turned, the religion you profess to fight for get thrown out the window and you resort to tactics thats exactly the opposite of what your fighting for. At heart, you prove that your faith is a lie and christianity is a fairy tale because when the real world comes knocking, everyone can easily see that it's not in your nature and that's the overall problem. The bible contradicts human nature. As you have proven through your own plight on this subject.

I do agree with one thing, anyone who capable of believing a non-existant invisible being is capable of anything. It's called mental illness. As far as I believe "whatever I read on the internet", I assure you that I believe in what I can measure, see, touch, smell, taste, feel and tangible. I don't believe in fairy tale from war torn, opressed, broken nations that has never known anything but pain, suffering, oppression, war, desease and death. That's all religion and "God" has brought to the world.

I will no longer respond to your ignorant rants,if you come up with something legitimate to discuss i will do so.

 

[Youwerecreated]

You make such a quote and yet you're making a case for the untested/unproven?

Science reasons what is learned.
Religion accepts what has never been tested.

Really,we don't believe in gravity ?

We don't believe the earth is round ?

We don't believe science research benefits our health ?

We don't believe the universe is expanding ?

All of which is spoken of in the bible i could go on and on.

Now you provide an explantion as to why you believe that life is a product of chance ?

1. Gravity- Founded by science. Thank you!
2. No- The bible mentions the earth having corners.
3. My point, thanks for using it. Science helps people, not God.
4. Measuring and seeing the universe. Brought to you by Science!!
5. Really? or is it that your twisting scripture to suit what you want it to say. Where does the bible talk of scientific break throughs, space exploration, or the earth actually being round?

How can I explain that life was a product by chance? One are we talking life as we know it, or life period? There maybe a difference. We have Lucy, Neandertals and fossils that pre-date your religion. Bible and Jewish belief is that earth is what? just over 5,000 years old? We have discovered things that pre-date that. How do you explain that disrepancy? Also, there are traits on earth that are unique to any other planet (that we have discovered so far). As far as your question "why hasn't science created life". I would say that it does everyday. You see, when male sperm meets a female egg........

I guess you have to study more to find out the rest there smart guy!

It say's the earth was round,now if you only had enough brain to reason out why the four corners comments were used. Don't blame the bible because you don't have the ability to reason.

What does four corners represent here ?

Job 1:19 And, behold, a great wind came from the wilderness and struck the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead. And I only have escaped alone to tell you.

Is a house flat ?

Are all houses square ?

Are these literally four corners or do they represent the whole earth ?

Isa 11:12 And He shall lift up a banner for the nations, and shall gather the outcasts of Israel and gather together the scattered ones of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Once again four corners represent the entire earth not it's shape.

Rev 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth so that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

The earth is round.


Isa 40:21 Have you not known? Have you not heard? Has it not been told you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth?
Isa 40:22 It is He who sits on the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in;

Job 26:10 He has described a circle on the surface of the waters to the boundary of light with darkness.

 

[Yoda]

If a person believes that there is a creator capable of creating the universe and all life it's pretty simple to hold on to the view that there is nothing that he is not capable of doing.

My damaged brain can best your brain at any moment on just about any subject do you care to test the hypothesis ? please don't embarrass yourself.

You 're a little tool that took a class and now you think you have all the answers let's see genius.

LOL!! How very Christian of you! You prove my point about religion. You question and refute anything that questions it, but when the tables are turned, the religion you profess to fight for get thrown out the window and you resort to tactics thats exactly the opposite of what your fighting for. At heart, you prove that your faith is a lie and christianity is a fairy tale because when the real world comes knocking, everyone can easily see that it's not in your nature and that's the overall problem. The bible contradicts human nature. As you have proven through your own plight on this subject.

I do agree with one thing, anyone who capable of believing a non-existant invisible being is capable of anything. It's called mental illness. As far as I believe "whatever I read on the internet", I assure you that I believe in what I can measure, see, touch, smell, taste, feel and tangible. I don't believe in fairy tale from war torn, opressed, broken nations that has never known anything but pain, suffering, oppression, war, desease and death. That's all religion and "God" has brought to the world.

I will no longer respond to your ignorant rants,if you come up with something legitimate to discuss i will do so.

This is so hillarious!!!!! You are the one who needs to come up with something, it your freakin argument! "I've seen something on Hannity". That's freakin' rich! It is you who has been dealing out the insults and now, you running like a scalded dog because you can't back up you're own crap. If you love God with all your heart, then why even make the argument?

 

[Yoda]

Really,we don't believe in gravity ?

We don't believe the earth is round ?

We don't believe science research benefits our health ?

We don't believe the universe is expanding ?

All of which is spoken of in the bible i could go on and on.

Now you provide an explantion as to why you believe that life is a product of chance ?

1. Gravity- Founded by science. Thank you!
2. No- The bible mentions the earth having corners.
3. My point, thanks for using it. Science helps people, not God.
4. Measuring and seeing the universe. Brought to you by Science!!
5. Really? or is it that your twisting scripture to suit what you want it to say. Where does the bible talk of scientific break throughs, space exploration, or the earth actually being round?

How can I explain that life was a product by chance? One are we talking life as we know it, or life period? There maybe a difference. We have Lucy, Neandertals and fossils that pre-date your religion. Bible and Jewish belief is that earth is what? just over 5,000 years old? We have discovered things that pre-date that. How do you explain that disrepancy? Also, there are traits on earth that are unique to any other planet (that we have discovered so far). As far as your question "why hasn't science created life". I would say that it does everyday. You see, when male sperm meets a female egg........

I guess you have to study more to find out the rest there smart guy!

It say's the earth was round,now if you only had enough brain to reason out why the four corners comments were used. Don't blame the bible because you don't have the ability to reason.

What does four corners represent here ?

Job 1:19 And, behold, a great wind came from the wilderness and struck the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead. And I only have escaped alone to tell you.

Is a house flat ?

Are all houses square ?

Are these literally four corners or do they represent the whole earth ?

Isa 11:12 And He shall lift up a banner for the nations, and shall gather the outcasts of Israel and gather together the scattered ones of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Once again four corners represent the entire earth not it's shape.

Rev 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth so that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

The earth is round.


Isa 40:21 Have you not known? Have you not heard? Has it not been told you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth?
Isa 40:22 It is He who sits on the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in;

Job 26:10 He has described a circle on the surface of the waters to the boundary of light with darkness.

Thank You! You just proved my point when I said you just believe what you want about the bible and ignore the rest! How about Mat: 24-31? or Acts 10-11? Your going to ignore those because you can't twist it to fit your argument. I never blamed the bible for anything. It's just a collection of fairy tales. I blame people who believe in that bullshit and think that it's literal truth, when it's clearly not. Please, you don't want to go into the Old Testament. I'll show you where you and everyone else in the US can't go anywhere but hell.

 

[Youwerecreated]

LOL!! How very Christian of you! You prove my point about religion. You question and refute anything that questions it, but when the tables are turned, the religion you profess to fight for get thrown out the window and you resort to tactics thats exactly the opposite of what your fighting for. At heart, you prove that your faith is a lie and christianity is a fairy tale because when the real world comes knocking, everyone can easily see that it's not in your nature and that's the overall problem. The bible contradicts human nature. As you have proven through your own plight on this subject.

I do agree with one thing, anyone who capable of believing a non-existant invisible being is capable of anything. It's called mental illness. As far as I believe "whatever I read on the internet", I assure you that I believe in what I can measure, see, touch, smell, taste, feel and tangible. I don't believe in fairy tale from war torn, opressed, broken nations that has never known anything but pain, suffering, oppression, war, desease and death. That's all religion and "God" has brought to the world.

I will no longer respond to your ignorant rants,if you come up with something legitimate to discuss i will do so.

This is so hillarious!!!!! You are the one who needs to come up with something, it your freakin argument! "I've seen something on Hannity". That's freakin' rich! It is you who has been dealing out the insults and now, you running like a scalded dog because you can't back up you're own crap. If you love God with all your heart, then why even make the argument?

I think you better open your eyes.

 

[Youwerecreated]

1. Gravity- Founded by science. Thank you!
2. No- The bible mentions the earth having corners.
3. My point, thanks for using it. Science helps people, not God.
4. Measuring and seeing the universe. Brought to you by Science!!
5. Really? or is it that your twisting scripture to suit what you want it to say. Where does the bible talk of scientific break throughs, space exploration, or the earth actually being round?

How can I explain that life was a product by chance? One are we talking life as we know it, or life period? There maybe a difference. We have Lucy, Neandertals and fossils that pre-date your religion. Bible and Jewish belief is that earth is what? just over 5,000 years old? We have discovered things that pre-date that. How do you explain that disrepancy? Also, there are traits on earth that are unique to any other planet (that we have discovered so far). As far as your question "why hasn't science created life". I would say that it does everyday. You see, when male sperm meets a female egg........

I guess you have to study more to find out the rest there smart guy!

It say's the earth was round,now if you only had enough brain to reason out why the four corners comments were used. Don't blame the bible because you don't have the ability to reason.

What does four corners represent here ?

Job 1:19 And, behold, a great wind came from the wilderness and struck the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead. And I only have escaped alone to tell you.

Is a house flat ?

Are all houses square ?

Are these literally four corners or do they represent the whole earth ?

Isa 11:12 And He shall lift up a banner for the nations, and shall gather the outcasts of Israel and gather together the scattered ones of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Once again four corners represent the entire earth not it's shape.

Rev 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth so that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

The earth is round.


Isa 40:21 Have you not known? Have you not heard? Has it not been told you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth?
Isa 40:22 It is He who sits on the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in;

Job 26:10 He has described a circle on the surface of the waters to the boundary of light with darkness.

Thank You! You just proved my point when I said you just believe what you want about the bible and ignore the rest! How about Mat: 24-31? or Acts 10-11? Your going to ignore those because you can't twist it to fit your argument. I never blamed the bible for anything. It's just a collection of fairy tales. I blame people who believe in that bullshit and think that it's literal truth, when it's clearly not. Please, you don't want to go into the Old Testament. I'll show you where you and everyone else in the US can't go anywhere but hell.

Your point was that the bible taught the earth was flat it's clear your accusation was wrong.

You just got corrected and you're not smart enough to see it.

I will throw you back now and wait for you to reach the limit size.

 

[Yoda]

It say's the earth was round,now if you only had enough brain to reason out why the four corners comments were used. Don't blame the bible because you don't have the ability to reason.

What does four corners represent here ?

Job 1:19 And, behold, a great wind came from the wilderness and struck the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead. And I only have escaped alone to tell you.

Is a house flat ?

Are all houses square ?

Are these literally four corners or do they represent the whole earth ?

Isa 11:12 And He shall lift up a banner for the nations, and shall gather the outcasts of Israel and gather together the scattered ones of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Once again four corners represent the entire earth not it's shape.

Rev 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth so that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

The earth is round.


Isa 40:21 Have you not known? Have you not heard? Has it not been told you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth?
Isa 40:22 It is He who sits on the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in;

Job 26:10 He has described a circle on the surface of the waters to the boundary of light with darkness.

Thank You! You just proved my point when I said you just believe what you want about the bible and ignore the rest! How about Mat: 24-31? or Acts 10-11? Your going to ignore those because you can't twist it to fit your argument. I never blamed the bible for anything. It's just a collection of fairy tales. I blame people who believe in that bullshit and think that it's literal truth, when it's clearly not. Please, you don't want to go into the Old Testament. I'll show you where you and everyone else in the US can't go anywhere but hell.

Your point was that the bible taught the earth was flat it's clear your accusation was wrong.

You just got corrected and you're not smart enough to see it.

I will throw you back now and wait for you to reach the limit size.

Dude, is that all you can do? Deny everything and only see what you want to see? That's right, you a "Christian". You proved nothing more than the fact that you lack the mental ability to even keep up with your own arguments. Do us a favor and step away from the keyboard. You lost track of yourself 20 posts ago.

 

[Yoda]

@ youwerecreated -This is all your argument amounts too and no, I don't need your religion. I do doubt that you'll actually get point though. You've failed at understanding simple stuff so far.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdCA5xAsw8I&feature=fvwrel]YouTube - ‪Kissing Hank's Ass - The Movie‬‏[/ame]

 

[Youwerecreated]

Thank You! You just proved my point when I said you just believe what you want about the bible and ignore the rest! How about Mat: 24-31? or Acts 10-11? Your going to ignore those because you can't twist it to fit your argument. I never blamed the bible for anything. It's just a collection of fairy tales. I blame people who believe in that bullshit and think that it's literal truth, when it's clearly not. Please, you don't want to go into the Old Testament. I'll show you where you and everyone else in the US can't go anywhere but hell.

Your point was that the bible taught the earth was flat it's clear your accusation was wrong.

You just got corrected and you're not smart enough to see it.

I will throw you back now and wait for you to reach the limit size.

Dude, is that all you can do? Deny everything and only see what you want to see? That's right, you a "Christian". You proved nothing more than the fact that you lack the mental ability to even keep up with your own arguments. Do us a favor and step away from the keyboard. You lost track of yourself 20 posts ago.

Deny what ?

Yes i showed where writings in the scriptures that were written around 3,500 years ago have been confirmed by modern day science. I think that say's a lot for the bible and the one that inspired it.

So tell me how non-living matter became living matter ?

How does an organism gain new information to evolve to the point of Macro-evolution ?

How do genetics change to allow for this change ?

So since nothing could survive the big bang how did life start ?

 

[Youwerecreated]

@ youwerecreated -This is all your argument amounts too and no, I don't need your religion. I do doubt that you'll actually get point though. You've failed at understanding simple stuff so far.

YouTube - ‪Kissing Hank's Ass - The Movie‬‏

Is this the best you can do ?

What simple stuff did i fail to understand ?

 

[Yoda]

Your point was that the bible taught the earth was flat it's clear your accusation was wrong.

You just got corrected and you're not smart enough to see it.

I will throw you back now and wait for you to reach the limit size.

Dude, is that all you can do? Deny everything and only see what you want to see? That's right, you a "Christian". You proved nothing more than the fact that you lack the mental ability to even keep up with your own arguments. Do us a favor and step away from the keyboard. You lost track of yourself 20 posts ago.

Deny what ?

Yes i showed where writings in the scriptures that were written around 3,500 years ago have been confirmed by modern day science. I think that say's a lot for the bible and the one that inspired it.

So tell me how non-living matter became living matter ?

How does an organism gain new information to evolve to the point of Macro-evolution ?

How do genetics change to allow for this change ?

So since nothing could survive the big bang how did life start ?

Why? Look through the freakin' thread. These all have already been answered, but you choose to ignore them. No scripture has ever been confirmed by science other than Topography of the land and other archeological findings, Guess what? You could make the same claim for the Qur'an, congrats Here's your sign!

 

[Yoda]

@ youwerecreated -This is all your argument amounts too and no, I don't need your religion. I do doubt that you'll actually get point though. You've failed at understanding simple stuff so far.

YouTube - ‪Kissing Hank's Ass - The Movie‬‏

Is this the best you can do ?

What simple stuff did i fail to understand ?

Never mind. You have the intellectual capacity of a brick wall. Look, I get it. You have complete faith in your God. I'm not trying to change that, but when you start a thread asking people to answer questions and then refuse every answer that doesn't agree with yours, and then resort to name calling because you can't stand the fact that you maybe wrong. It just shows that you are NOT a real Christian when all said and done. You use the bible simply to validate your own beliefs and are using it as a mental crutch. You need to realize, in Scientific Theory, there is no such thing a "absolute" just like you cannot bring the almighty down and prove his existence either. That's the simple stuff you fail to understand. No one can ever prove anything to you because you refuse everything that doesn't agree with you view. You seem to have this mentality of a child refusing to believe that there is no Santa Clause, only that you are still that child today. The bible is a great source of moral teachings and a starting point for archeologists but everything else is debate able and left up to a billion interpretations. I could understand if you were arguing that science is merely man's way of understanding how God did it. I wouldn't agree but could understand, but to refute science in the name of an unproven, immeasurable and supernatural magical being is complete insanity. Are you starting to understand now?

 

[Youwerecreated]

Dude, is that all you can do? Deny everything and only see what you want to see? That's right, you a "Christian". You proved nothing more than the fact that you lack the mental ability to even keep up with your own arguments. Do us a favor and step away from the keyboard. You lost track of yourself 20 posts ago.

Deny what ?

Yes i showed where writings in the scriptures that were written around 3,500 years ago have been confirmed by modern day science. I think that say's a lot for the bible and the one that inspired it.

So tell me how non-living matter became living matter ?

How does an organism gain new information to evolve to the point of Macro-evolution ?

How do genetics change to allow for this change ?

So since nothing could survive the big bang how did life start ?

Why? Look through the freakin' thread. These all have already been answered, but you choose to ignore them. No scripture has ever been confirmed by science other than Topography of the land and other archeological findings, Guess what? You could make the same claim for the Qur'an, congrats Here's your sign!

You really are in over your head answer my questions or move on.

Why don't you show me these claims from the koran.

 

[Youwerecreated]

@ youwerecreated -This is all your argument amounts too and no, I don't need your religion. I do doubt that you'll actually get point though. You've failed at understanding simple stuff so far.

YouTube - ‪Kissing Hank's Ass - The Movie‬‏

Is this the best you can do ?

What simple stuff did i fail to understand ?

Nevermind. Even science can't fix stupid.

You must be right, you have not once discussed real science.

I'm calling you out,if you can defend your religion then do so.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Dude, is that all you can do? Deny everything and only see what you want to see? That's right, you a "Christian". You proved nothing more than the fact that you lack the mental ability to even keep up with your own arguments. Do us a favor and step away from the keyboard. You lost track of yourself 20 posts ago.

Deny what ?

Yes i showed where writings in the scriptures that were written around 3,500 years ago have been confirmed by modern day science. I think that say's a lot for the bible and the one that inspired it.

So tell me how non-living matter became living matter ?

How does an organism gain new information to evolve to the point of Macro-evolution ?

How do genetics change to allow for this change ?

So since nothing could survive the big bang how did life start ?

Why? Look through the freakin' thread. These all have already been answered, but you choose to ignore them. No scripture has ever been confirmed by science other than Topography of the land and other archeological findings, Guess what? You could make the same claim for the Qur'an, congrats Here's your sign!

Remember this ?

Science confirms the Bible (Colossians 2:3). These insights place the Bible far above every manmade theory and all other so-called inspired books. In contrast, the Koran states that the sun sets in a muddy pond (Surah 18:86). The Hadith contains many myths. The Book of Mormon declares that Native Americans descended from Jews – which has been disproven by DNA research. The Eastern writings also contradict true science.

 

[Youwerecreated]

@ youwerecreated -This is all your argument amounts too and no, I don't need your religion. I do doubt that you'll actually get point though. You've failed at understanding simple stuff so far.

YouTube - ‪Kissing Hank's Ass - The Movie‬‏

Is this the best you can do ?

What simple stuff did i fail to understand ?

Nevermind. Even science can't fix stupid.

Why edit that much of your post ,just make a new post.