A few questions for the fundies

[ding]

Nothing in my post justifies your mis-interpretation.


That you felt a need to lie, shows that you yourself know that your position is false.


75% of Americans identify as Christian.


Only a self deluded fool or a liar. would claim that being Christian in this nation is not normal.

The US isn't a normal nation by your definition, and the Christians in it aren't normal either, fakers or not. Christians are a minority in the world, so also not normal by your definition. And since no religion is a majority in the world, then being in any of them is not normal. Thanks for clearing that up.

The vast majority of the world is a member of some religion.

America is normal in that regard.

Christianity is one of the major religions.

America, in this regard, is a normal nation.

Within America, being Christian is completely normal.


I've posted dictionary definitions that explained how this works.


At this point, you are being purposefully obtuse.

Christians aren’t a majority in the world. By your own definition it’s not normal to be a Christian. Or is it already time to move the goalposts?

Only the most dishonest type of person would pretend that the only community standards are Global Standards.


The US has over 300 million people. Plenty big enough to be considered as a unit by itself.


Your pretense otherwise is nothing but a weak rationalization of your anti-Christian Bigotry.

Sure if you Cherry pick the data, you can come up with pretty much any conclusion you choose. So Christianity is normal in a not normal country like the US. Agreed?

By any objective standard, belief in a higher power is the norm and atheism is the exception. It's been that way since the beginning of man and for good reason too.

 

[ding]

The definition of normal clearly states otherwise.


Your denial of this simple fact is irrational of you.


Even more so that it has been repeatedly and clearly shown to you.

It's not normal for you to be so obsessed in a losing cause. And it's not normal to be a Christian. In ANY definition.

Actually a normal person wouldn't be taking advice from someone who hasn't accomplished diddly squat in life.

We'd end up looking like you if we did.

Again, no proof to back up your statement. No surprise there.

My proof is observing you in these conversations.

Like I said, you have no proof of anything. Please try again.

You have the proof, Taz. You can't hide from yourself.

The basis for my belief is from observing how you argue. No offense but you don't strike me as being particularly intelligent. Do you remember our discussion on global warming, taz?

 

[ding]

Weak.

The guy’s a Mormon, ancient submarines, golden plates, magic underwear... which by any measurement doesn’t equate to a complete grasp on reality, like the GOP.

Are you a bleeding heart liberal?

That explains everything.

Why, only Liberals can see people for what they really are?

Liberals tend to feel while conservatives tend to think.

Nice personal opinion, too bad it’s wrong.

It's a pretty widely held perception in America, Taz. I'm not alone.

 

[Correll]

It's not normal for you to be so obsessed in a losing cause. And it's not normal to be a Christian. In ANY definition.

Actually a normal person wouldn't be taking advice from someone who hasn't accomplished diddly squat in life.

We'd end up looking like you if we did.

Again, no proof to back up your statement. No surprise there.

My proof is observing you in these conversations.

Like I said, you have no proof of anything. Please try again.

You have the proof, Taz. You can't hide from yourself.

The basis for my belief is from observing how you argue. No offense but you don't strike me as being particularly intelligent. Do you remember our discussion on global warming, taz?

His being hung up on refusing to understand the word "normal" is not him being stupid, but him being irrational.


His ability to reason is clouded by his hatred and bigotry.

 

[ding]

There’s no proof of a Heavenly Father who cares that we follow a book. You live in a fantasy world.

Ya, some soul searching about why you think an invisible beings wants us to follow a book.

Let me ask you this... do you think that all behaviors lead to equal outcomes?

Or do you believe that there are certain behaviors which naturally lead to success, peace and harmony and certain behaviors which naturally lead to disorder, chaos and failure?

Ya, your life led to a total failure.

This is an example of what I was talking about when I wrote that you did not strike me as a particularly intelligent person.

Were you part of the Occupy movement per chance?

 

[ding]

Actually a normal person wouldn't be taking advice from someone who hasn't accomplished diddly squat in life.

We'd end up looking like you if we did.

Again, no proof to back up your statement. No surprise there.

My proof is observing you in these conversations.

Like I said, you have no proof of anything. Please try again.

You have the proof, Taz. You can't hide from yourself.

The basis for my belief is from observing how you argue. No offense but you don't strike me as being particularly intelligent. Do you remember our discussion on global warming, taz?

His being hung up on refusing to understand the word "normal" is not him being stupid, but him being irrational.


His ability to reason is clouded by his hatred and bigotry.

I think it is not so much that he believes his beliefs can't be wrong as much as it is he believes he can't be wrong. He is not objective.

 

[Correll]

Again, no proof to back up your statement. No surprise there.

My proof is observing you in these conversations.

Like I said, you have no proof of anything. Please try again.

You have the proof, Taz. You can't hide from yourself.

The basis for my belief is from observing how you argue. No offense but you don't strike me as being particularly intelligent. Do you remember our discussion on global warming, taz?

His being hung up on refusing to understand the word "normal" is not him being stupid, but him being irrational.


His ability to reason is clouded by his hatred and bigotry.

I think it is not so much that he believes his beliefs can't be wrong as much as it is he believes he can't be wrong. He is not objective.

He does come across as incredible arrogant and closed minded...

 

[ding]

My proof is observing you in these conversations.

Like I said, you have no proof of anything. Please try again.

You have the proof, Taz. You can't hide from yourself.

The basis for my belief is from observing how you argue. No offense but you don't strike me as being particularly intelligent. Do you remember our discussion on global warming, taz?

His being hung up on refusing to understand the word "normal" is not him being stupid, but him being irrational.


His ability to reason is clouded by his hatred and bigotry.

I think it is not so much that he believes his beliefs can't be wrong as much as it is he believes he can't be wrong. He is not objective.

He does come across as incredible arrogant and closed minded...

He's a new age atheist.

They practice critical theory which is the Cultural Marxist theory to criticize what they do not believe to arrive at what they do believe without ever having to examine what they believe. They confuse critical theory for critical thinking. Critical thinking is the practice of challenging what one does believe to test its validity. Something they never do.

 

[Taz]

The US isn't a normal nation by your definition, and the Christians in it aren't normal either, fakers or not. Christians are a minority in the world, so also not normal by your definition. And since no religion is a majority in the world, then being in any of them is not normal. Thanks for clearing that up.

The vast majority of the world is a member of some religion.

America is normal in that regard.

Christianity is one of the major religions.

America, in this regard, is a normal nation.

Within America, being Christian is completely normal.


I've posted dictionary definitions that explained how this works.


At this point, you are being purposefully obtuse.

Christians aren’t a majority in the world. By your own definition it’s not normal to be a Christian. Or is it already time to move the goalposts?

Only the most dishonest type of person would pretend that the only community standards are Global Standards.


The US has over 300 million people. Plenty big enough to be considered as a unit by itself.


Your pretense otherwise is nothing but a weak rationalization of your anti-Christian Bigotry.

Sure if you Cherry pick the data, you can come up with pretty much any conclusion you choose. So Christianity is normal in a not normal country like the US. Agreed?

Discussing a nation of 300 million people as a population is hardly cherry picking.


Your need to be dishonest about this reveals that you know you are in the wrong.


Christians are normal in the US. You being agnostic, is the unusual one.


That is the reality of the situation.

The US isn't a normal country, therefore being Christian isn't normal in the world. You just like cherry picking.

 

[Taz]

The US isn't a normal nation by your definition, and the Christians in it aren't normal either, fakers or not. Christians are a minority in the world, so also not normal by your definition. And since no religion is a majority in the world, then being in any of them is not normal. Thanks for clearing that up.

The vast majority of the world is a member of some religion.

America is normal in that regard.

Christianity is one of the major religions.

America, in this regard, is a normal nation.

Within America, being Christian is completely normal.


I've posted dictionary definitions that explained how this works.


At this point, you are being purposefully obtuse.

Christians aren’t a majority in the world. By your own definition it’s not normal to be a Christian. Or is it already time to move the goalposts?

Only the most dishonest type of person would pretend that the only community standards are Global Standards.


The US has over 300 million people. Plenty big enough to be considered as a unit by itself.


Your pretense otherwise is nothing but a weak rationalization of your anti-Christian Bigotry.

Sure if you Cherry pick the data, you can come up with pretty much any conclusion you choose. So Christianity is normal in a not normal country like the US. Agreed?

By any objective standard, belief in a higher power is the norm and atheism is the exception. It's been that way since the beginning of man and for good reason too.

We're not talking about the norm, but about being normal, something you clearly know nothing about.

 

[Taz]

It's not normal for you to be so obsessed in a losing cause. And it's not normal to be a Christian. In ANY definition.

Actually a normal person wouldn't be taking advice from someone who hasn't accomplished diddly squat in life.

We'd end up looking like you if we did.

Again, no proof to back up your statement. No surprise there.

My proof is observing you in these conversations.

Like I said, you have no proof of anything. Please try again.

You have the proof, Taz. You can't hide from yourself.

The basis for my belief is from observing how you argue. No offense but you don't strike me as being particularly intelligent. Do you remember our discussion on global warming, taz?

We're talking about you backing up what you say with real proof, which you seem incapable of doing, you fucking retard.

 

[Taz]

The guy’s a Mormon, ancient submarines, golden plates, magic underwear... which by any measurement doesn’t equate to a complete grasp on reality, like the GOP.

Are you a bleeding heart liberal?

That explains everything.

Why, only Liberals can see people for what they really are?

Liberals tend to feel while conservatives tend to think.

Nice personal opinion, too bad it’s wrong.

It's a pretty widely held perception in America, Taz. I'm not alone.

Lots of idiots in the US, no, you're not alone.

 

[Taz]

There’s no proof of a Heavenly Father who cares that we follow a book. You live in a fantasy world.

Ya, some soul searching about why you think an invisible beings wants us to follow a book.

Let me ask you this... do you think that all behaviors lead to equal outcomes?

Or do you believe that there are certain behaviors which naturally lead to success, peace and harmony and certain behaviors which naturally lead to disorder, chaos and failure?

Ya, your life led to a total failure.

This is an example of what I was talking about when I wrote that you did not strike me as a particularly intelligent person.

Were you part of the Occupy movement per chance?

Nope, wrong AGAIN.

And you can't make a proper point so you call me names, which shows what a small little person you are.

 

[Taz]

Actually a normal person wouldn't be taking advice from someone who hasn't accomplished diddly squat in life.

We'd end up looking like you if we did.

Again, no proof to back up your statement. No surprise there.

My proof is observing you in these conversations.

Like I said, you have no proof of anything. Please try again.

You have the proof, Taz. You can't hide from yourself.

The basis for my belief is from observing how you argue. No offense but you don't strike me as being particularly intelligent. Do you remember our discussion on global warming, taz?

We're talking about you backing up what you say with real proof, which you seem incapable of doing. So you call me names. How sad.

 

[Correll]

The vast majority of the world is a member of some religion.

America is normal in that regard.

Christianity is one of the major religions.

America, in this regard, is a normal nation.

Within America, being Christian is completely normal.


I've posted dictionary definitions that explained how this works.


At this point, you are being purposefully obtuse.

Christians aren’t a majority in the world. By your own definition it’s not normal to be a Christian. Or is it already time to move the goalposts?

Only the most dishonest type of person would pretend that the only community standards are Global Standards.


The US has over 300 million people. Plenty big enough to be considered as a unit by itself.


Your pretense otherwise is nothing but a weak rationalization of your anti-Christian Bigotry.

Sure if you Cherry pick the data, you can come up with pretty much any conclusion you choose. So Christianity is normal in a not normal country like the US. Agreed?

Discussing a nation of 300 million people as a population is hardly cherry picking.


Your need to be dishonest about this reveals that you know you are in the wrong.


Christians are normal in the US. You being agnostic, is the unusual one.


That is the reality of the situation.

The US isn't a normal country, therefore being Christian isn't normal in the world. You just like cherry picking.

I addressed your pretense that Global Standards are the only ones that matter.


You did not defend against that, merely restated your previous position.


That is a Fail.



America's religiosity is not abnormal in the world. THe vast majority of the human race is religious.


That this is offensive to you, does not make it abnormal.


You are the minority, the odd ball in this context.


Within America, Christianity is the norm.


This is the reality of the world you live in.


Your denial is completely irrational.


You, are being completely irrational.

 

[Correll]

The vast majority of the world is a member of some religion.

America is normal in that regard.

Christianity is one of the major religions.

America, in this regard, is a normal nation.

Within America, being Christian is completely normal.


I've posted dictionary definitions that explained how this works.


At this point, you are being purposefully obtuse.

Christians aren’t a majority in the world. By your own definition it’s not normal to be a Christian. Or is it already time to move the goalposts?

Only the most dishonest type of person would pretend that the only community standards are Global Standards.


The US has over 300 million people. Plenty big enough to be considered as a unit by itself.


Your pretense otherwise is nothing but a weak rationalization of your anti-Christian Bigotry.

Sure if you Cherry pick the data, you can come up with pretty much any conclusion you choose. So Christianity is normal in a not normal country like the US. Agreed?

By any objective standard, belief in a higher power is the norm and atheism is the exception. It's been that way since the beginning of man and for good reason too.

We're not talking about the norm, but about being normal, something you clearly know nothing about.

More pretending not to know the meaning of common english words.


Completely irrational.

 

[Taz]

Christians aren’t a majority in the world. By your own definition it’s not normal to be a Christian. Or is it already time to move the goalposts?

Only the most dishonest type of person would pretend that the only community standards are Global Standards.


The US has over 300 million people. Plenty big enough to be considered as a unit by itself.


Your pretense otherwise is nothing but a weak rationalization of your anti-Christian Bigotry.

Sure if you Cherry pick the data, you can come up with pretty much any conclusion you choose. So Christianity is normal in a not normal country like the US. Agreed?

Discussing a nation of 300 million people as a population is hardly cherry picking.


Your need to be dishonest about this reveals that you know you are in the wrong.


Christians are normal in the US. You being agnostic, is the unusual one.


That is the reality of the situation.

The US isn't a normal country, therefore being Christian isn't normal in the world. You just like cherry picking.

I addressed your pretense that Global Standards are the only ones that matter.


You did not defend against that, merely restated your previous position.


That is a Fail.



America's religiosity is not abnormal in the world. THe vast majority of the human race is religious.


That this is offensive to you, does not make it abnormal.


You are the minority, the odd ball in this context.


Within America, Christianity is the norm.


This is the reality of the world you live in.


Your denial is completely irrational.


You, are being completely irrational.

I'm a minority, sure, but so is mensa. Being stupid is the norm in the world, like believing in an invisible superbeing that wants you to follow a book. It may be the norm, but far from normal.

 

[Votto]

My questions for you when you've gain full power in this nation are:
1. Will I be able to live(at all) in your christian fundie nation 10 years from now?
2. Will I still be able to watch porno and have freaky sex with my wife?
3. Will I be able to talk about the shit I do today 10 years from now when you're fully in power? Meaning will I be allowed to discuss issues that have to do with LGBT?

Not only will you be able to do it, you will be able to publically shame them so that they can never get another job, sue those who oppose you, take their money, and lock them up in jail......which is already started to happen.

 

[zaangalewa]

Normal is by definition, defined by the majority or, "most".


That's common english.


Your claim to be different than the "most" and yet be "normal"


is ironically a stupid and irrational statement.

No, if most people like in Nazi Germany want all Jews gassed,

Learn something about real history.

that's still not normal no matter if 100% of the population goes along with it.

After you learn to read English, because I'm right on point. So how many times have you read Mein Kampf? More than 100?

It exists around the Holocaust a lot of myths. One myth for example is the "Reichskristallnacht" - later also called "Reichspogromnacht", what's in this case a wrong expression of the word "pogrom", when you take a look at the etymology of this word. The Reichkristallnacht was not a pogrom in the central meaning of this word. It was a planed pogrom - it was an enactment. Only the Nazi-propaganda spoke about that the people were fighting against Jews. The reality was completely different: The Reichskristallnacht was an organized military action. In Berlin for example the SA started in the night, when nearly no one was in the streets any longer. The Nazis (in uniforms) followed exact plans. A member of the SA destroyed for example shop windows of "Jewish" shops. In whole Germany all Nazis together destroyed the complete production of a year of whole Europe for glass for shop windows - that's why it was called "Reichskristallnacht" (Reich = also "rich" and not only "empire", Kristall = Crystal = destroyed glas, splinter of glas; Nacht=night). Others attacked Jewish families in their homes. The police (which was completely under control of Heinrich Himmler, who was also the head of the SS) arrested Jews and so one. Fire departments for example inflamed synagogues and other Jewish buildings and ... and what did the Germans do? The normal people? They slept, they saw something was goin' on, they stayed at home. It was dangerous to go out and so they did nothing. ... And the Nazi propaganda said afterwards the German people had made a kind of revolution against the evil Jews. And afterwards - in a kind of self-fulfilling idiocy - indeed more and more people started to help the Nazis, because of the pressure to adapt. But also in this case you never saw a civil mob in Germany under the Nazis. The Nazis themselves lived in fear of an organized German resistance or unorganized mob against them.

You follow by the way still the war propaganda of world war 2 of the USA. This propaganda was: "Every German is a Nazi. Kill every German". This was specially important for the bomber pilots, who had no psychological problem with this form of propaganda to kill German children and women.

So you admit that the German people did nothing. That's called being tacitly complicit. Now you know.

When a friend was in NY long years ago he had to learn what the people in NY understand under the expression "not to be involved" when someone was murdered in front of his eyes and no one liked to see anything nor to call the police. "Not to be involved" seems to be for US-Americans one of the most important principles of life.

And be happy that I'm not the ghost of the lost Christmas and will send you into this time of history as a German. Could be interesting to see you calling the police, which was everywhere in Germany totally under control of Heinrich Himmler, who was also the head of the private army of the NSDAP, the SS. Nowhere in the world people are leaving a save place at home, when they have the feeling there are riots in the streets. The time before the Nazis overtook all institutions of Germany the Commies and Nazis had made unsafe all streets - what was a result of world war 1. The USA had created a mad situation in Europe and Germany - and mad situations cause mad men to make mad solutions. ISIS for example is a mad solution of mad problems the USA had created with the war in Iraq.

Today I read by the way a story in "Readers Digest" about a Christmas with three American soldiers (one was wounded) and four German soldiers at a farm where the countrywoman called them all to respect the peace of Christmas. They respected the peace of Christmas, had a nice Christmas and the German soldiers helped the wounded enemy and explained the US-Americans how they were able to come back to their army. The German soldiers were much better informed about the real situations of the US-American forces, than the US-American soldiers themselves.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The US isn't a normal nation by your definition, and the Christians in it aren't normal either, fakers or not. Christians are a minority in the world, so also not normal by your definition. And since no religion is a majority in the world, then being in any of them is not normal. Thanks for clearing that up.

The vast majority of the world is a member of some religion.

America is normal in that regard.

Christianity is one of the major religions.

America, in this regard, is a normal nation.

Within America, being Christian is completely normal.


I've posted dictionary definitions that explained how this works.


At this point, you are being purposefully obtuse.

Christians aren’t a majority in the world. By your own definition it’s not normal to be a Christian. Or is it already time to move the goalposts?

Only the most dishonest type of person would pretend that the only community standards are Global Standards.


The US has over 300 million people. Plenty big enough to be considered as a unit by itself.


Your pretense otherwise is nothing but a weak rationalization of your anti-Christian Bigotry.

Sure if you Cherry pick the data, you can come up with pretty much any conclusion you choose. So Christianity is normal in a not normal country like the US. Agreed?

By any objective standard, belief in a higher power is the norm and atheism is the exception. It's been that way since the beginning of man and for good reason too.

Wrong.

The notion of a ‘higher power’ is actually a very recent creation of man, manifesting around the advent of civilization.

Totemism was the belief system that existed for the vast majority of human history – the worship of nature and the earth, where belief in an afterlife was universal and afforded to all, a natural process independent of religious doctrine, dogma, or a ‘higher power.’

Indeed theism/deism is the aberration.