A message to America from Black America.

I realize this is from personal experience, but what the heck..

I have a friend from Jamaica that I worked with at the NYSE for 11 years. He started his own technical business and moved to Jamaica. He came back last year because of his business. At a dinner party at my place he told me he was tossed up against a car, hand cuffed and frisked. When he asked the police why this happened, they didn't answer but let him go. This is a college educated guy, clean cut, intelligent, and a business owner. He's also a sci fi nerd mixed with gym rat (We use to work out together at the Polytech Gym).

There was only one reason that happened.
Yep. Because so many blacks are involved in the crime culture.

Translation: Profiling is ok, as long as its not ME they profile. "Why does the TSA have to search ME? IM WHITE!! Waaaaa!
You shouldn't run around looking like a clown, if you don't wish to be perceived as one.
 
And so I really do no accept any responsibility for Blacks who once were

Is there some note stuck to white people's door that says ANYONE wants them to take responsibility for slavery? What the fuck does that even mean?
It means that I do not care if someone's great, great, great, great grandfather was a slave. It has no relevance now. Sure, we need to remember the past so that we do not repeat mistakes. There are enough mistakes to go around.
Heres the deal. Blacks were wronged. And that's why black society is the way it is. And white America should make an extra effort to help poor blacks. For example we should be moving factories to Detroit not mexico.

But, black people are even losing support from us liberal whites. No one wants to open a business in Detroit. It's a war zone. And giving poor single mothers isn't a good idea because they just keep having more babies.

And black people, at least a lot of detroiters, don't take school serious so that doesn't make for a good interviewee or employee.

The other thing black people don't do is vote. That makes them bad citizens.

Don't show me Selma and then tell me 25% of blacks showed up to vote in 2014.
 
an educated Black man is only a threat to Progressives. And of course an educated Black man's education is worthless if he allows himself to be a petty, race-baiting Progressive brainwashed loser anyway....................like somebody here.....................ijs
So you like Ben Carson?


sure; why not? he isnt a race-baiting Black bigot like some one here
He's the poster boy for it. Republicans love finding black uncle tom's they can use.
That's racist.


right-wing-race-card-41635542526.jpg
The race-card always seems to involve a Democrat.

The KKK is and always will be a Southern Democrat club.
 
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So you like Ben Carson?


sure; why not? he isnt a race-baiting Black bigot like some one here
He's the poster boy for it. Republicans love finding black uncle tom's they can use.
That's racist.


right-wing-race-card-41635542526.jpg
The race-card always seems to involve a Democrat.

The KKK is and always will be a Southern Democrat club.
The racists or nationalists are usually Republican because blacks vote democratic. Please don't tell me southern kkk votes with black people or for Obama.

The kkk loves trumps message. Which party is he in? The kkk also loves libertarian. Not to mention the tea party that yells the n word.

You're a bad liar or fool.
 
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sure; why not? he isnt a race-baiting Black bigot like some one here
He's the poster boy for it. Republicans love finding black uncle tom's they can use.
That's racist.


right-wing-race-card-41635542526.jpg
The race-card always seems to involve a Democrat.

The KKK is and always will be a Southern Democrat club.
The racists or nationalists are usually Republican because blacks vote democratic. Please don't tell me southern kkk votes with black people or for Obama.

The kkk loves trumps message. Which party is he in? The kkk also loves libertarian. Not to mention the tea party that yells the n word.

You're a bad liar or fool.
Shut up moron...you're full of crap..you're the piece of shit racist on this thread
 
7 seconds? You heard nothing because you are ignorant and hear nothing.

No moron, that's all it took because I'm much too smart for that bull shit. I've heard those lies for decades now. I was exactly correct as evidenced by the defenders here.
You are afraid to listen to a Black man.

No idiot, I said quite clearly that I've heard it all before. How stupid are you exactly?
You have nothing but insults, so it appears that you are the stupid one.

Your illiteracy isn't my fault, moron.
Thank you for proving my point,
 
a MESSAGE FROM BLACK AMERICA?

who the eff made you the spokesperson for Black America??
I want to know why I don't recognize any of the black people that work at Kroger or speedway? After a week or two they are always gone. If I were an employer I wouldn't hire a black because I would think they won't stay.


I live very very close to you i think.. I totally agree. Its so bad. Esp. near liqour stores and gas stations.
 
Extremist don't want to listen or care. Blacks need to fix their own mess and stop living in the 60's.
When blacks are done complaining I'd like to talk about how us short people don't get a fair shake.

And I want reparations because I understand blondes have more fun.

Ahhh, white people. Seeing physical stature as being the same as Govt oppression because thats really all they have.

Oh and that they arent having as much fun. Real important stuff there, good point
Actually I don't disagree with black people that America hasn't given them a fair shake. That much I get.

Here comes the but....

But how have blacks responded? Thug mentality, gold teeth, baby mamas, pants low, eubonics, high crime rates, not taking school serious, poverty and welfare etc. They arent improving as a society despite us.

Thats just the stuff racist pricks like you like to focus on. Its like if I presented Meth and incest as being the legacy of whites. Or rape and molestation the legacy of Catholics.

I like how you said "Hey you guys were oppressed for generations I get it....but what about your gold teeth" Pretending that gold teeth is akin to the level of having the military and govt hold your head under water.

Just like the person above pretended that being short is the same as slavery. Thats all you guys have.
I get you had a shitty past doesn't mean you have to have a shitty future. Me and Ben carson made it out of Detroit. We didn't forget where we came from. In fact we will never forget. Unacceptable.

We need to see more effort from within the black community. If I were a business owner I wouldn't want to open up a business near you people. That's why Kroger Walmart and meijer don't. Neither do manufacturers. So like I said, I'm OK if blacks come out where the jobs are. Just don't bring the crime and ruin our neighborhoods like you did Detroit.


when you grow up with no father and have an attitude of whitey owes you you are already a lost cause.
 
And so I really do no accept any responsibility for Blacks who once were

Is there some note stuck to white people's door that says ANYONE wants them to take responsibility for slavery? What the fuck does that even mean?
It means that I do not care if someone's great, great, great, great grandfather was a slave. It has no relevance now. Sure, we need to remember the past so that we do not repeat mistakes. There are enough mistakes to go around.
Heres the deal. Blacks were wronged. And that's why black society is the way it is. And white America should make an extra effort to help poor blacks. For example we should be moving factories to Detroit not mexico.

But, black people are even losing support from us liberal whites. No one wants to open a business in Detroit. It's a war zone. And giving poor single mothers isn't a good idea because they just keep having more babies.

And black people, at least a lot of detroiters, don't take school serious so that doesn't make for a good interviewee or employee.

The other thing black people don't do is vote. That makes them bad citizens.

Don't show me Selma and then tell me 25% of blacks showed up to vote in 2014.

We did make an effort.

We are making an effort.

From what the blacks on this site say, it was a complete waste. They didn't notice. Or they "forgot".

And it's one thing for 90% of the country to make an effort to help out 10% of the country.

It's quite another for 20% of the country to always take the short end of the stick for the other 80% (other minorities now, inclunding gays and women), (numbers pulled out of air to make the point, not researched)
 
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sure; why not? he isnt a race-baiting Black bigot like some one here
He's the poster boy for it. Republicans love finding black uncle tom's they can use.
That's racist.


right-wing-race-card-41635542526.jpg
The race-card always seems to involve a Democrat.

The KKK is and always will be a Southern Democrat club.
The racists or nationalists are usually Republican because blacks vote democratic. Please don't tell me southern kkk votes with black people or for Obama.

The kkk loves trumps message. Which party is he in? The kkk also loves libertarian. Not to mention the tea party that yells the n word.

You're a bad liar or fool.


In the Myth of the Southern Strategy, research is presented that shows that poor whites in the south continued to vote based on economic interests after the Dems finally started supporting Civil Rights.

From that right wing rag the New York Times.



http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html?_r=0


"Everyone knows that race has long played a decisive role in Southern electoral politics. From the end of Reconstruction until the beginning of the civil rights era, the story goes, the national Democratic Party made room for segregationist members — and as a result dominated the South. But in the 50s and 60s, Democrats embraced the civil rights movement, costing them the white Southern vote. Meanwhile, the Republican Party successfully wooed disaffected white racists with a “Southern strategy” that championed “states’ rights.”

It’s an easy story to believe, but this year two political scientists called it into question. In their book “The End of Southern Exceptionalism,” Richard Johnston of the University of Pennsylvania and Byron Shafer of the University of Wisconsin argue that the shift in the South from Democratic to Republican was overwhelmingly a question not of race but of economic growth. In the postwar era, they note, the South transformed itself from a backward region to an engine of the national economy, giving rise to a sizable new wealthy suburban class. This class, not surprisingly, began to vote for the party that best represented its economic interests: the G.O.P. Working-class whites, however — and here’s the surprise — even those in areas with large black populations, stayed loyal to the Democrats. (This was true until the 90s, when the nation as a whole turned rightward in Congressional voting.)

The two scholars support their claim with an extensive survey of election returns and voter surveys. To give just one example: in the 50s, among Southerners in the low-income tercile, 43 percent voted for Republican Presidential candidates, while in the high-income tercile, 53 percent voted Republican; by the 80s, those figures were 51 percent and 77 percent, respectively. Wealthy Southerners shifted rightward in droves but poorer ones didn’t.

To be sure, Shafer says, many whites in the South aggressively opposed liberal Democrats on race issues. “But when folks went to the polling booths,” he says, “they didn’t shoot off their own toes. They voted by their economic preferences, not racial preferences.” Shafer says these results should give liberals hope. “If Southern politics is about class and not race,” he says, “then they can get it back.” "
 
a MESSAGE FROM BLACK AMERICA?

who the eff made you the spokesperson for Black America??
I want to know why I don't recognize any of the black people that work at Kroger or speedway? After a week or two they are always gone. If I were an employer I wouldn't hire a black because I would think they won't stay.


I live very very close to you i think.. I totally agree. Its so bad. Esp. near liqour stores and gas stations.

When I was middle management, I hired plenty of blacks. The only issue I had with them as a group, was a small but significant percentage that interpreted the normal stupidity from upper management as racism.

Of course, the really crappy resumes probably never made it pass HR for me to even see.
 
of course it is Progressives of any race, arrogant and ignorant, that claim to speak for everybody.
Black Progs claim to speak for "Black America" and White Progs claim to be speaking in the interests of everybody.
Moral of the story; Progressives are largely just moronic, arrogant people to be dismissed
 
And so I really do no accept any responsibility for Blacks who once were

Is there some note stuck to white people's door that says ANYONE wants them to take responsibility for slavery? What the fuck does that even mean?
It means that I do not care if someone's great, great, great, great grandfather was a slave. It has no relevance now. Sure, we need to remember the past so that we do not repeat mistakes. There are enough mistakes to go around.
Heres the deal. Blacks were wronged. And that's why black society is the way it is. And white America should make an extra effort to help poor blacks. For example we should be moving factories to Detroit not mexico.

But, black people are even losing support from us liberal whites. No one wants to open a business in Detroit. It's a war zone. And giving poor single mothers isn't a good idea because they just keep having more babies.

And black people, at least a lot of detroiters, don't take school serious so that doesn't make for a good interviewee or employee.

The other thing black people don't do is vote. That makes them bad citizens.

Don't show me Selma and then tell me 25% of blacks showed up to vote in 2014.

We did make an effort.

We are making an effort.

From what the blacks on this site say, it was a complete waste. They didn't notice. Or they "forgot".

And it's one thing for 90% of the country to make an effort to help out 10% of the country.

It's quite another for 20% of the country to always take the short end of the stick for the other 80% (other minorities now, inclunding gays and women), (numbers pulled out of air to make the point, not researched)
Apparently things have to be perfect or blacks won't stop being ghetto.

Think about it. The black born 100 years from now will blame slavery for why he doesn't have a father.

I'd like to ask blacks when they'll be over it.
 
And so I really do no accept any responsibility for Blacks who once were

Is there some note stuck to white people's door that says ANYONE wants them to take responsibility for slavery? What the fuck does that even mean?
It means that I do not care if someone's great, great, great, great grandfather was a slave. It has no relevance now. Sure, we need to remember the past so that we do not repeat mistakes. There are enough mistakes to go around.
Heres the deal. Blacks were wronged. And that's why black society is the way it is. And white America should make an extra effort to help poor blacks. For example we should be moving factories to Detroit not mexico.

But, black people are even losing support from us liberal whites. No one wants to open a business in Detroit. It's a war zone. And giving poor single mothers isn't a good idea because they just keep having more babies.

And black people, at least a lot of detroiters, don't take school serious so that doesn't make for a good interviewee or employee.

The other thing black people don't do is vote. That makes them bad citizens.

Don't show me Selma and then tell me 25% of blacks showed up to vote in 2014.

We did make an effort.

We are making an effort.

From what the blacks on this site say, it was a complete waste. They didn't notice. Or they "forgot".

And it's one thing for 90% of the country to make an effort to help out 10% of the country.

It's quite another for 20% of the country to always take the short end of the stick for the other 80% (other minorities now, inclunding gays and women), (numbers pulled out of air to make the point, not researched)
I will go out of my way to help a black. I have empathy for the ones that deserve it.
 
P
He's the poster boy for it. Republicans love finding black uncle tom's they can use.
That's racist.


right-wing-race-card-41635542526.jpg
The race-card always seems to involve a Democrat.

The KKK is and always will be a Southern Democrat club.
The racists or nationalists are usually Republican because blacks vote democratic. Please don't tell me southern kkk votes with black people or for Obama.

The kkk loves trumps message. Which party is he in? The kkk also loves libertarian. Not to mention the tea party that yells the n word.

You're a bad liar or fool.


In the Myth of the Southern Strategy, research is presented that shows that poor whites in the south continued to vote based on economic interests after the Dems finally started supporting Civil Rights.

From that right wing rag the New York Times.



http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html?_r=0


"Everyone knows that race has long played a decisive role in Southern electoral politics. From the end of Reconstruction until the beginning of the civil rights era, the story goes, the national Democratic Party made room for segregationist members — and as a result dominated the South. But in the 50s and 60s, Democrats embraced the civil rights movement, costing them the white Southern vote. Meanwhile, the Republican Party successfully wooed disaffected white racists with a “Southern strategy” that championed “states’ rights.”

It’s an easy story to believe, but this year two political scientists called it into question. In their book “The End of Southern Exceptionalism,” Richard Johnston of the University of Pennsylvania and Byron Shafer of the University of Wisconsin argue that the shift in the South from Democratic to Republican was overwhelmingly a question not of race but of economic growth. In the postwar era, they note, the South transformed itself from a backward region to an engine of the national economy, giving rise to a sizable new wealthy suburban class. This class, not surprisingly, began to vote for the party that best represented its economic interests: the G.O.P. Working-class whites, however — and here’s the surprise — even those in areas with large black populations, stayed loyal to the Democrats. (This was true until the 90s, when the nation as a whole turned rightward in Congressional voting.)

The two scholars support their claim with an extensive survey of election returns and voter surveys. To give just one example: in the 50s, among Southerners in the low-income tercile, 43 percent voted for Republican Presidential candidates, while in the high-income tercile, 53 percent voted Republican; by the 80s, those figures were 51 percent and 77 percent, respectively. Wealthy Southerners shifted rightward in droves but poorer ones didn’t.

To be sure, Shafer says, many whites in the South aggressively opposed liberal Democrats on race issues. “But when folks went to the polling booths,” he says, “they didn’t shoot off their own toes. They voted by their economic preferences, not racial preferences.” Shafer says these results should give liberals hope. “If Southern politics is about class and not race,” he says, “then they can get it back.” "
These poor dumb southerners don't realize they vote against their own financial interests. Even the middle class ones are hurting themselves but they don't know it because they are middle class.

Middle class ppl shouldn't vote GOP either. They do because of wedge issues. God, gays, guns and racism.
 
And so I really do no accept any responsibility for Blacks who once were

Is there some note stuck to white people's door that says ANYONE wants them to take responsibility for slavery? What the fuck does that even mean?
It means that I do not care if someone's great, great, great, great grandfather was a slave. It has no relevance now. Sure, we need to remember the past so that we do not repeat mistakes. There are enough mistakes to go around.
Heres the deal. Blacks were wronged. And that's why black society is the way it is. And white America should make an extra effort to help poor blacks. For example we should be moving factories to Detroit not mexico.

But, black people are even losing support from us liberal whites. No one wants to open a business in Detroit. It's a war zone. And giving poor single mothers isn't a good idea because they just keep having more babies.

And black people, at least a lot of detroiters, don't take school serious so that doesn't make for a good interviewee or employee.

The other thing black people don't do is vote. That makes them bad citizens.

Don't show me Selma and then tell me 25% of blacks showed up to vote in 2014.

We did make an effort.

We are making an effort.

From what the blacks on this site say, it was a complete waste. They didn't notice. Or they "forgot".

And it's one thing for 90% of the country to make an effort to help out 10% of the country.

It's quite another for 20% of the country to always take the short end of the stick for the other 80% (other minorities now, inclunding gays and women), (numbers pulled out of air to make the point, not researched)
I will go out of my way to help a black. I have empathy for the ones that deserve it.


Do you understand my point?

I'm doing ok in my life, nice middle class life.

But I look back on it, and there were very few "breaks" in my life.

I had to work for almost everything I got.

What there were plenty of times when I worked hard for something still didn't get it.

If there were just one or two more timse of me getting fucked instead of getting something I worked hard for, my life would be shit.

As whites become a MINORITY, we cannot afford to give preferential treatment to blacks or others.

Or we are taking away any hope from poor whites who have no edge to overcome the minus of always been passed over for the black guy.
 
P
The race-card always seems to involve a Democrat.

The KKK is and always will be a Southern Democrat club.
The racists or nationalists are usually Republican because blacks vote democratic. Please don't tell me southern kkk votes with black people or for Obama.

The kkk loves trumps message. Which party is he in? The kkk also loves libertarian. Not to mention the tea party that yells the n word.

You're a bad liar or fool.


In the Myth of the Southern Strategy, research is presented that shows that poor whites in the south continued to vote based on economic interests after the Dems finally started supporting Civil Rights.

From that right wing rag the New York Times.



http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html?_r=0


"Everyone knows that race has long played a decisive role in Southern electoral politics. From the end of Reconstruction until the beginning of the civil rights era, the story goes, the national Democratic Party made room for segregationist members — and as a result dominated the South. But in the 50s and 60s, Democrats embraced the civil rights movement, costing them the white Southern vote. Meanwhile, the Republican Party successfully wooed disaffected white racists with a “Southern strategy” that championed “states’ rights.”

It’s an easy story to believe, but this year two political scientists called it into question. In their book “The End of Southern Exceptionalism,” Richard Johnston of the University of Pennsylvania and Byron Shafer of the University of Wisconsin argue that the shift in the South from Democratic to Republican was overwhelmingly a question not of race but of economic growth. In the postwar era, they note, the South transformed itself from a backward region to an engine of the national economy, giving rise to a sizable new wealthy suburban class. This class, not surprisingly, began to vote for the party that best represented its economic interests: the G.O.P. Working-class whites, however — and here’s the surprise — even those in areas with large black populations, stayed loyal to the Democrats. (This was true until the 90s, when the nation as a whole turned rightward in Congressional voting.)

The two scholars support their claim with an extensive survey of election returns and voter surveys. To give just one example: in the 50s, among Southerners in the low-income tercile, 43 percent voted for Republican Presidential candidates, while in the high-income tercile, 53 percent voted Republican; by the 80s, those figures were 51 percent and 77 percent, respectively. Wealthy Southerners shifted rightward in droves but poorer ones didn’t.

To be sure, Shafer says, many whites in the South aggressively opposed liberal Democrats on race issues. “But when folks went to the polling booths,” he says, “they didn’t shoot off their own toes. They voted by their economic preferences, not racial preferences.” Shafer says these results should give liberals hope. “If Southern politics is about class and not race,” he says, “then they can get it back.” "
These poor dumb southerners don't realize they vote against their own financial interests. Even the middle class ones are hurting themselves but they don't know it because they are middle class.

Middle class ppl shouldn't vote GOP either. They do because of wedge issues. God, gays, guns and racism.

YOur opinion on that is another matter.

THe point is they did not switch sides because of the dems flipping on Civil RIghts. The poor southern whites didn't flip until the 90s, 30 years after the point the Southern Strategy was supposed to have done it's Evul Work.
 

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