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Ecological destruction won’t happen to any great degree because of war, which means more resources, which means the war ends.War or ecological destruction I would guess.Only if robots kill us off.In all likelihood humans don't survive the epoch of capitalist production.The state will not wither away until civilization crashes.You know, Tehon, you pretty much have everything in place to have your socialist form of government. Economicaly speaking, anyway.
The question, really, and Marx never had the answer, he never even offered an answer, so far as I've read, and I've read him rather thoroughly, is how you actually do the flip from one to the other.
What I mean is that Marx never really explained how the state would ''wither away'' after the ''dictatorship of the proletaria'' began. Really, he did nothing to stop Lenin from popping off about rationing liberty. Lenin's decree on liberty was rather clear. What he said was that liberty must be carefully rationed. Right?
These are all things that would promote the middle class and workers.Awesome...sounds noble as fuck...but I call BULLSHIT!
Like the Mexicrat Party, you LefTards can’t give two shits about the middle class. You ignorant fools do nothing but “celebrate” wetbacks and the rest of the lowest one third, the filth of America. Every policy pushed and everything said by you lowlifes is aimed to support the lowest grade.
Further, I’ve never “worshiped” the rich but I’ve never hated them for kicking ass at life either.
Really.
And here I am supporting (along with my Dem colleagues)
a better healthcare system
Higher minimum wage
A path to citizenship for Dreamers (who have spent the bulk of their lives in this country doing everything that you an I ...middle class folks do...like serving in the military, going to college, owning homes, starting businesses
Strengthening Social Security
Unions Who are by definition middle class working men and women
And you oppose all of that.
You do of course support cutting spending on anything that helps middle class and poor folks...your fellow working folks
Oh yea and tax cuts for the rich (like the legislator that bought a yacht with HIS tax cut) while we get increases or pennies
Yea...right
I'm Pleased, Sassy Lassy...steveI don't normally agree with anything you say Lass,but in this I tend to agree LADY(Your Granpa was a wise man)...but with qualification,many workers are exploited,you must agree,the wages in America for a 1st World Country are shockingly poor.So, Leftist/Democrats believe that corporations/company's are crooked, and out to screw people for the most part, while being out for only money/profit. Is this not true of their basic ideology? That is their big complaint about Capitalism.
So who runs these entities? Is it, A Martians? B reptiles, C Neptunians, or D human beings?
Now then, if you didn't pick D, then this thread is NOT for you, lol.
And so, with D being human beings, what is their solution? Is it, A put Martians in charge of government, or B put reptiles in charge of government, C put Neptunians in charge of government, or D put humans in charge of government and let them control everything?
So now, they want YOU to believe that human beings...…...the same human beings who THEY insist are out to screw you, they now want to give not only massive amounts of YOUR money...………...plus massive amounts of corporate money...………..plus something the CEOs and heads of company's do NOT have; MASSIVE AMOUNTS of POWER over everyone, and these saints are going to somehow save you, and not be corrupt, lolololololol.
Let us look at where these supposed saints are leading now----------> CHICAGO, hehehehehehe! In fact, this saint used to be chief of staff for Obysmal. How is that working out for the denizens of Chicago?
What about the saintly politicians of California? Why, everytime the people vote on referendum votes and they don't like it, they over turn the will of the people!
Lets look at these saints across the country, lolol. Why, our President was voted in LEGALLY by our system. Wasn't even close! But the saints can't have that, so they will do everything to over turn the election, Walmart smelly people be damned!
Sooooooooooooo, the question is simple-----------> Do YOU the voter control the states, and the federal government, or do they control you? Are these supposed saints, really saints; or rather, are they tyrants trying to take power out of your hands? Are they that smart, or are they that power hungry?
Do you really believe that the same kind of arrogant people who run corporations who took a different path and went into politics instead, should be trusted to control as much of your life as these Leftists want to control?
If you find 1 great person to do what the Left wants, he/she can only be elected twice. So, can you find the 2nd one to be so benevolent? NOT LIKELY you can even find the 1st!
Do you want people who beat the hell out of people they disagree with to be in charge? And do we all realize that the only way they can institute their ideas is to bankrupt the country faaaaaaaaar worse than it already is, or raise taxes so high, they will confiscate your wealth at the point of a gun?
Republicans SUCK! Leftists are 3 times worse. Their ideas suck so bad, all they have is to say Republicans suck, lol. (which is true, probably the only thing they have as truth, but I bet if they define themselves, they won't admit that they are 3 times worse)
We have a choice to make, and the Left wants you to give them power as they are saints. Do any of them remind you of Mother Theresa? Hell, do any of them remind you of JFK? Or rather, do they remind you of a bunch of people, trying to find an excuse, to tell you are were stupid, dumb, and a bunch of rubes, and they know better than you do, so they are just going to FORCE you to see it their way!
LefTards honestly believe that shit happens from the bottom up....they genuinely believe the guy pushing the broom at Microsoft built the PC empire. They think people on welfare make the nation tick. In LibTardia everything is weird and backward....Consider this, if you were a total piece of shit lowlife you might bust your ass trying to convince yourself that you’ve got life by the balls and that the world revolves around you and people like you....right?
My grandfather told me something once, leftists are mad at the world, they are angry and feel like they were screwed by "the man". They have an entitlement attitude and have a misguided belief everyone should be on an even plateau regardless if someone makes something of themselves, that individual should share with them. It's where their love of Socialism comes into play. What they don't realize even in a Socialist state there is still the ruling class the only difference is those individuals that do make something of themselves are dragged down to their level and will be just as miserable as they are now. I'd much rather live in a free state, where capitalism allows anyone with drive, ambition and know how to succeed.
Like you,life expierences and advice are so important and being of Irish decent this I can understand...... but not all have such guidence.
My Mom was widdowed at 28 with six children,in a monetry sense we were poor but in life healthy and happy growing up...We lived a form of Socialism,sharing everything,work around the home and money when we got jobs,paper rounds an all...All my siblings have done well...I own a company that employs 304 Team members on three continents,we treat them like a big family but over 35 years,had 93% retention of staff,who without(in my opinion)we could never have been so successful...I am also paid by the Government to go into failing businesses...It is always the same an over bearing boss and very low staff morale.
Our Mom,we greatly admire and are indebted to....at 47 she decided to become a Nurse at which she succeeded,well a Mid-Wife...always loved children and she had plenty of practice LOL
A Family cannot succeed without nurturing and it's the same with employees...(which many bosses seem to ignore) you Earn Great Loyalty and Respect....Thank you so much Lass for your post...I am glad to see another side of you...Best Regards steven
I appreciate that, thank you
These are all things that would promote the middle class and workers.Awesome...sounds noble as fuck...but I call BULLSHIT!
Like the Mexicrat Party, you LefTards can’t give two shits about the middle class. You ignorant fools do nothing but “celebrate” wetbacks and the rest of the lowest one third, the filth of America. Every policy pushed and everything said by you lowlifes is aimed to support the lowest grade.
Further, I’ve never “worshiped” the rich but I’ve never hated them for kicking ass at life either.
Really.
And here I am supporting (along with my Dem colleagues)
a better healthcare system
Higher minimum wage
A path to citizenship for Dreamers (who have spent the bulk of their lives in this country doing everything that you an I ...middle class folks do...like serving in the military, going to college, owning homes, starting businesses
Strengthening Social Security
Unions Who are by definition middle class working men and women
And you oppose all of that.
You do of course support cutting spending on anything that helps middle class and poor folks...your fellow working folks
Oh yea and tax cuts for the rich (like the legislator that bought a yacht with HIS tax cut) while we get increases or pennies
Yea...right
That's what I stand for. That and much more is what the Dem party stands for
The Republican party stands for the ultra rich and in order to do that they support dividing us and getting us fighting ourselves.
That's they're only path to electoral victory.
Wake the fuck up
Are you a thinking person?So, Leftist/Democrats believe that corporations/company's are crooked, and out to screw people for the most part, while being out for only money/profit. Is this not true of their basic ideology? That is their big complaint about Capitalism.
So who runs these entities? Is it, A Martians? B reptiles, C Neptunians, or D human beings?
Now then, if you didn't pick D, then this thread is NOT for you, lol.
And so, with D being human beings, what is their solution? Is it, A put Martians in charge of government, or B put reptiles in charge of government, C put Neptunians in charge of government, or D put humans in charge of government and let them control everything?
So now, they want YOU to believe that human beings...…...the same human beings who THEY insist are out to screw you, they now want to give not only massive amounts of YOUR money...………...plus massive amounts of corporate money...………..plus something the CEOs and heads of company's do NOT have; MASSIVE AMOUNTS of POWER over everyone, and these saints are going to somehow save you, and not be corrupt, lolololololol.
Let us look at where these supposed saints are leading now----------> CHICAGO, hehehehehehe! In fact, this saint used to be chief of staff for Obysmal. How is that working out for the denizens of Chicago?
What about the saintly politicians of California? Why, everytime the people vote on referendum votes and they don't like it, they over turn the will of the people!
Lets look at these saints across the country, lolol. Why, our President was voted in LEGALLY by our system. Wasn't even close! But the saints can't have that, so they will do everything to over turn the election, Walmart smelly people be damned!
Sooooooooooooo, the question is simple-----------> Do YOU the voter control the states, and the federal government, or do they control you? Are these supposed saints, really saints; or rather, are they tyrants trying to take power out of your hands? Are they that smart, or are they that power hungry?
Do you really believe that the same kind of arrogant people who run corporations who took a different path and went into politics instead, should be trusted to control as much of your life as these Leftists want to control?
If you find 1 great person to do what the Left wants, he/she can only be elected twice. So, can you find the 2nd one to be so benevolent? NOT LIKELY you can even find the 1st!
Do you want people who beat the hell out of people they disagree with to be in charge? And do we all realize that the only way they can institute their ideas is to bankrupt the country faaaaaaaaar worse than it already is, or raise taxes so high, they will confiscate your wealth at the point of a gun?
Republicans SUCK! Leftists are 3 times worse. Their ideas suck so bad, all they have is to say Republicans suck, lol. (which is true, probably the only thing they have as truth, but I bet if they define themselves, they won't admit that they are 3 times worse)
We have a choice to make, and the Left wants you to give them power as they are saints. Do any of them remind you of Mother Theresa? Hell, do any of them remind you of JFK? Or rather, do they remind you of a bunch of people, trying to find an excuse, to tell you are were stupid, dumb, and a bunch of rubes, and they know better than you do, so they are just going to FORCE you to see it their way!
Do you not understand that the capitalist system of production creates a ruling class? And do you not understand the immense social power that the ruling class wields over the population?
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Any kind of economic system produces a ruling class; capitalist, socialist, right or left and everything in-between. No government in the history of humankind has ever been truly benign. Humans are easily corrupted by power and economic gain. In the US, the democrats are equally as vile and corrupt as the republicans.
