Act of War

[eagle1462010]

Defeat OPEC.....................

Jesus where do these people come from....................Our current policy is to remove Assad for an Oil Pipeline from Qatar through Syria to Europe............Qatar and Saudi Arabia ARE OPEC..............................Defeat OPEC...............Get your head out of that Dark place..............

To the current policy of the United States...............the beloved FSA.......................They are murdering Christians there...............and they are supposed to be the good guys............

Christians being targeted and murdered in Syria by U.S. backed FSA rebels - GroundReport

WARNING GRAPHIC..............THIS IS OUR CURRENT ALLIES TO OVERTHROW ASSAD......................

ANIMALS............

Maybe people like me come from a place which sees the reality.

In 2001, there were four OPEC countries that hated the US.

Venezuela, Iraq, Iran and Libya.

Hugo Chavez in Venezuela tried to get the OPEC countries together to be a stronger cartel. This goes directly against US interests.

The Powell Doctrine (he was a member of the Bush govt).

1. Is a vital national security interest threatened?
2. Do we have a clear attainable objective?
3. Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?
4. Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?
5. Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?
6. Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?
7. Is the action supported by the American people?
8. Do we have genuine broad international support?

Number one, most important, US interests. National Security is not just to protect citizens from attacks, but also from, say, rising oil prices.

So, OPEC was getting strong.

The first thing to happen was a coup against Chavez in 2002. US money was clearly being banded around freely to anyone who would try and take Chavez out of the game. It failed.

2003, invasion of Iraq. Need I say more.

Sanctions against Iran were being ramped up from 2006 onwards. This was in an attempt to get Iran to pump out more oil and reduce OPEC's power further. It didn't really work though. Iran is suffering, but not pumping oil out more than before.

Then you have Libya. Bush had gone when the opportunity came in Libya, but McCain jumped on it like nobody's business. Within 12 days of things starting in Libya, McCain was criticising Obama for being way too slow. Obama then proceeded to attack Syria. It's US interests.

But Syria. It took McCain 6 months to give a damn about anything to do with Syria.

What's the difference? Why did the right want Gadaffi gone so quickly, and Assad they didn't care so much about?

A pipeline through Syria they might want. However it's not that important at all. Oil prices won't change much because there's a pipeline to Europe. It doesn't impact the US in any way at all.

OPEC is much weaker than in 2001. Oil prices are much lower than in 2001. Go figure.

The dollar is tied to the oil.............the Petro dollar.................some wanted to go to the dinar and the gold standard..............

In that aspect, our policy is to take them out...............Libya being a prime example now under Obama...............
Oil is a vital World Commodity............always has been...............BRICS is a Pact to defeat the Petro dollar...............

I'm well aware of the Oil interests in the region..................I'm also well aware that the current Lower prices are because of Saudi Arabia and other OPEC nations are purposely Increasing supply to drive the prices down................In response to the BRIC's alliance and to destroy the Ruble.............It is working and Russia isn't too happy about it.......................Syria is about a pipeline....................to sell oil to Europe and to ditch Russia......................

That doesn't change the fact that this region is in a Religious Civil War........a War that has gone on since the 6th Century....................the only difference is now the Wars aren't fought with swords and spears...................but with modern weapons..............the utter barbaric actions of the contestants has never changed...................

You complain about Europe taking control and fucking up the region............before WWI it was already fucked up..........aka the Ottoman Empire...........As they slaughtered the Armenians in the desert and put their heads on pikes...........in the same cursed desert....................The current battlefield in Syria is a GRAVEYARD..................and so history keeps repeating...................

What is the history lesson of this...............the same history lesson taught to the turks in WWI.................Evicted from the area via extreme measures..........aka the French, British, and Austrialian forces killed them and took the land by force..................................at the same time defeating Germany with our help....................

The only way this ends is by force.

War has gone on there, and in many other places, for a long time. A religious war? Perhaps, but one which wouldn't be happening now if the British hadn't have made Iraq like they did and other such decisions that have caused no end of problems.

Yes, the Ottoman Empire did bad things, nothing compared to what the Nazis did in WW2, and things changed there. So why not the Middle East? Probably because the US seems to go in and cause problems all the time.

Why does Iran have a religious state? Oh, the US and their interfering in the last 1970s.....

You say the only way this ends is with force. Force is the thing that's keeping it going. You're wrong, force will not end this. Only peace can end this.

History of the Caliphate says otherwise........................Radical Islam doesn't want Peace.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Defeat OPEC.....................

Jesus where do these people come from....................Our current policy is to remove Assad for an Oil Pipeline from Qatar through Syria to Europe............Qatar and Saudi Arabia ARE OPEC..............................Defeat OPEC...............Get your head out of that Dark place..............

To the current policy of the United States...............the beloved FSA.......................They are murdering Christians there...............and they are supposed to be the good guys............

Christians being targeted and murdered in Syria by U.S. backed FSA rebels - GroundReport

WARNING GRAPHIC..............THIS IS OUR CURRENT ALLIES TO OVERTHROW ASSAD......................

ANIMALS............

Maybe people like me come from a place which sees the reality.

In 2001, there were four OPEC countries that hated the US.

Venezuela, Iraq, Iran and Libya.

Hugo Chavez in Venezuela tried to get the OPEC countries together to be a stronger cartel. This goes directly against US interests.

The Powell Doctrine (he was a member of the Bush govt).

1. Is a vital national security interest threatened?
2. Do we have a clear attainable objective?
3. Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?
4. Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?
5. Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?
6. Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?
7. Is the action supported by the American people?
8. Do we have genuine broad international support?

Number one, most important, US interests. National Security is not just to protect citizens from attacks, but also from, say, rising oil prices.

So, OPEC was getting strong.

The first thing to happen was a coup against Chavez in 2002. US money was clearly being banded around freely to anyone who would try and take Chavez out of the game. It failed.

2003, invasion of Iraq. Need I say more.

Sanctions against Iran were being ramped up from 2006 onwards. This was in an attempt to get Iran to pump out more oil and reduce OPEC's power further. It didn't really work though. Iran is suffering, but not pumping oil out more than before.

Then you have Libya. Bush had gone when the opportunity came in Libya, but McCain jumped on it like nobody's business. Within 12 days of things starting in Libya, McCain was criticising Obama for being way too slow. Obama then proceeded to attack Syria. It's US interests.

But Syria. It took McCain 6 months to give a damn about anything to do with Syria.

What's the difference? Why did the right want Gadaffi gone so quickly, and Assad they didn't care so much about?

A pipeline through Syria they might want. However it's not that important at all. Oil prices won't change much because there's a pipeline to Europe. It doesn't impact the US in any way at all.

OPEC is much weaker than in 2001. Oil prices are much lower than in 2001. Go figure.

The dollar is tied to the oil.............the Petro dollar.................some wanted to go to the dinar and the gold standard..............

In that aspect, our policy is to take them out...............Libya being a prime example now under Obama...............
Oil is a vital World Commodity............always has been...............BRICS is a Pact to defeat the Petro dollar...............

I'm well aware of the Oil interests in the region..................I'm also well aware that the current Lower prices are because of Saudi Arabia and other OPEC nations are purposely Increasing supply to drive the prices down................In response to the BRIC's alliance and to destroy the Ruble.............It is working and Russia isn't too happy about it.......................Syria is about a pipeline....................to sell oil to Europe and to ditch Russia......................

That doesn't change the fact that this region is in a Religious Civil War........a War that has gone on since the 6th Century....................the only difference is now the Wars aren't fought with swords and spears...................but with modern weapons..............the utter barbaric actions of the contestants has never changed...................

You complain about Europe taking control and fucking up the region............before WWI it was already fucked up..........aka the Ottoman Empire...........As they slaughtered the Armenians in the desert and put their heads on pikes...........in the same cursed desert....................The current battlefield in Syria is a GRAVEYARD..................and so history keeps repeating...................

What is the history lesson of this...............the same history lesson taught to the turks in WWI.................Evicted from the area via extreme measures..........aka the French, British, and Austrialian forces killed them and took the land by force..................................at the same time defeating Germany with our help....................

The only way this ends is by force.

War has gone on there, and in many other places, for a long time. A religious war? Perhaps, but one which wouldn't be happening now if the British hadn't have made Iraq like they did and other such decisions that have caused no end of problems.

Yes, the Ottoman Empire did bad things, nothing compared to what the Nazis did in WW2, and things changed there. So why not the Middle East? Probably because the US seems to go in and cause problems all the time.

Why does Iran have a religious state? Oh, the US and their interfering in the last 1970s.....

You say the only way this ends is with force. Force is the thing that's keeping it going. You're wrong, force will not end this. Only peace can end this.

History of the Caliphate says otherwise........................Radical Islam doesn't want Peace.

What does this mean?

Radical Islam is, by it's very nature, RADICAL. So.......

 

[eagle1462010]

Defeat OPEC.....................

Jesus where do these people come from....................Our current policy is to remove Assad for an Oil Pipeline from Qatar through Syria to Europe............Qatar and Saudi Arabia ARE OPEC..............................Defeat OPEC...............Get your head out of that Dark place..............

To the current policy of the United States...............the beloved FSA.......................They are murdering Christians there...............and they are supposed to be the good guys............

Christians being targeted and murdered in Syria by U.S. backed FSA rebels - GroundReport

WARNING GRAPHIC..............THIS IS OUR CURRENT ALLIES TO OVERTHROW ASSAD......................

ANIMALS............

Maybe people like me come from a place which sees the reality.

In 2001, there were four OPEC countries that hated the US.

Venezuela, Iraq, Iran and Libya.

Hugo Chavez in Venezuela tried to get the OPEC countries together to be a stronger cartel. This goes directly against US interests.

The Powell Doctrine (he was a member of the Bush govt).

1. Is a vital national security interest threatened?
2. Do we have a clear attainable objective?
3. Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?
4. Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?
5. Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?
6. Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?
7. Is the action supported by the American people?
8. Do we have genuine broad international support?

Number one, most important, US interests. National Security is not just to protect citizens from attacks, but also from, say, rising oil prices.

So, OPEC was getting strong.

The first thing to happen was a coup against Chavez in 2002. US money was clearly being banded around freely to anyone who would try and take Chavez out of the game. It failed.

2003, invasion of Iraq. Need I say more.

Sanctions against Iran were being ramped up from 2006 onwards. This was in an attempt to get Iran to pump out more oil and reduce OPEC's power further. It didn't really work though. Iran is suffering, but not pumping oil out more than before.

Then you have Libya. Bush had gone when the opportunity came in Libya, but McCain jumped on it like nobody's business. Within 12 days of things starting in Libya, McCain was criticising Obama for being way too slow. Obama then proceeded to attack Syria. It's US interests.

But Syria. It took McCain 6 months to give a damn about anything to do with Syria.

What's the difference? Why did the right want Gadaffi gone so quickly, and Assad they didn't care so much about?

A pipeline through Syria they might want. However it's not that important at all. Oil prices won't change much because there's a pipeline to Europe. It doesn't impact the US in any way at all.

OPEC is much weaker than in 2001. Oil prices are much lower than in 2001. Go figure.

The dollar is tied to the oil.............the Petro dollar.................some wanted to go to the dinar and the gold standard..............

In that aspect, our policy is to take them out...............Libya being a prime example now under Obama...............
Oil is a vital World Commodity............always has been...............BRICS is a Pact to defeat the Petro dollar...............

I'm well aware of the Oil interests in the region..................I'm also well aware that the current Lower prices are because of Saudi Arabia and other OPEC nations are purposely Increasing supply to drive the prices down................In response to the BRIC's alliance and to destroy the Ruble.............It is working and Russia isn't too happy about it.......................Syria is about a pipeline....................to sell oil to Europe and to ditch Russia......................

That doesn't change the fact that this region is in a Religious Civil War........a War that has gone on since the 6th Century....................the only difference is now the Wars aren't fought with swords and spears...................but with modern weapons..............the utter barbaric actions of the contestants has never changed...................

You complain about Europe taking control and fucking up the region............before WWI it was already fucked up..........aka the Ottoman Empire...........As they slaughtered the Armenians in the desert and put their heads on pikes...........in the same cursed desert....................The current battlefield in Syria is a GRAVEYARD..................and so history keeps repeating...................

What is the history lesson of this...............the same history lesson taught to the turks in WWI.................Evicted from the area via extreme measures..........aka the French, British, and Austrialian forces killed them and took the land by force..................................at the same time defeating Germany with our help....................

The only way this ends is by force.

War has gone on there, and in many other places, for a long time. A religious war? Perhaps, but one which wouldn't be happening now if the British hadn't have made Iraq like they did and other such decisions that have caused no end of problems.

Yes, the Ottoman Empire did bad things, nothing compared to what the Nazis did in WW2, and things changed there. So why not the Middle East? Probably because the US seems to go in and cause problems all the time.

Why does Iran have a religious state? Oh, the US and their interfering in the last 1970s.....

You say the only way this ends is with force. Force is the thing that's keeping it going. You're wrong, force will not end this. Only peace can end this.

History of the Caliphate says otherwise........................Radical Islam doesn't want Peace.

What does this mean?

Radical Islam is, by it's very nature, RADICAL. So.......

Who the hell do you think is waging war over there.................

You have got to be kidding me.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Given that we've become one of the top producers of oil in the world now, why was there a need to invade Iraq for oil? Perhaps we were doing it for a noble purpose, not out of self interest.

Invading a nation is never noble and is always for self interest.

If you say so...but you might want to tell that to the French.

 

[Sallow]

 

[Sallow]

 

[Sallow]

Both those men made accurate predictions of EXACTLY what would happen if Iraq was invaded. And it did. Going in again? Total madness. The "solution" is to let the people living there, the people with a vested interest in the region, deal with this. ISIS is killing far more of the native population than it does Europeans or Americans. Oddly enough? People seem to get pissed about that stuff.

 

[Sallow]

 

[Two Thumbs]

Don't forget to take your sons and daughters to the recruiting station with you.

wouldn't want to look like a hypocrite now would we

You aren't going either so stop the whining, you are not in a position to pontificate to anyone else.

You seem to be saying only people actually in the military should have the right to voice an opinion on when and where the military should be used?

That is called a military dictatorship.

And to try to say American citizens should have no say about where their military should be used is ludicrous. The military exists to exert OUR will, not theirs.

I made no such claims, none of the shit you made up is even hinted at by me.

why did you make that shit up and falsely accuse me of thinking that?

b/c you're a gutless hypocrite that demands other people fight the war he wants fought.

go fuck yourself you useless coward.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Don't forget to take your sons and daughters to the recruiting station with you.

wouldn't want to look like a hypocrite now would we

You aren't going either so stop the whining, you are not in a position to pontificate to anyone else.

You seem to be saying only people actually in the military should have the right to voice an opinion on when and where the military should be used?

That is called a military dictatorship.

And to try to say American citizens should have no say about where their military should be used is ludicrous. The military exists to exert OUR will, not theirs.

I think what he's saying is that it's so easy to call for war when there's no skin in the game .

We keep going to war, no draft , not even a war tax . It's too easy for people .

no.

that coward demands that the rich all get sent, that the gop all get sent b/c they wanted war

but when he wants war, he has no intention of going or sending his kids.

he a lying hypocritical coward, nothing more

 

[Two Thumbs]

Don't forget to take your sons and daughters to the recruiting station with you.

wouldn't want to look like a hypocrite now would we

You aren't going either so stop the whining, you are not in a position to pontificate to anyone else.

You seem to be saying only people actually in the military should have the right to voice an opinion on when and where the military should be used?

That is called a military dictatorship.

And to try to say American citizens should have no say about where their military should be used is ludicrous. The military exists to exert OUR will, not theirs.

If we commit the military to a mission, politicians can't tie their hands with ridiculous rules of engagement. Been there done that, it does nothing but get people killed and accomplishes little or nothing. The military is there for one reason, break things and destroy the enemy. Innocent folks will get caught in the cross fire, that's war.

I agree, its time to simply point at a map for our military and say THERE.

Where is THERE?

He hates brown people as much as you do.

he just honestly saying that he wants other people to kill them, not him, to much of a coward to go or send his own kids.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Maybe people like me come from a place which sees the reality.

In 2001, there were four OPEC countries that hated the US.

Venezuela, Iraq, Iran and Libya.

Hugo Chavez in Venezuela tried to get the OPEC countries together to be a stronger cartel. This goes directly against US interests.

The Powell Doctrine (he was a member of the Bush govt).

1. Is a vital national security interest threatened?
2. Do we have a clear attainable objective?
3. Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?
4. Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?
5. Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?
6. Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?
7. Is the action supported by the American people?
8. Do we have genuine broad international support?

Number one, most important, US interests. National Security is not just to protect citizens from attacks, but also from, say, rising oil prices.

So, OPEC was getting strong.

The first thing to happen was a coup against Chavez in 2002. US money was clearly being banded around freely to anyone who would try and take Chavez out of the game. It failed.

2003, invasion of Iraq. Need I say more.

Sanctions against Iran were being ramped up from 2006 onwards. This was in an attempt to get Iran to pump out more oil and reduce OPEC's power further. It didn't really work though. Iran is suffering, but not pumping oil out more than before.

Then you have Libya. Bush had gone when the opportunity came in Libya, but McCain jumped on it like nobody's business. Within 12 days of things starting in Libya, McCain was criticising Obama for being way too slow. Obama then proceeded to attack Syria. It's US interests.

But Syria. It took McCain 6 months to give a damn about anything to do with Syria.

What's the difference? Why did the right want Gadaffi gone so quickly, and Assad they didn't care so much about?

A pipeline through Syria they might want. However it's not that important at all. Oil prices won't change much because there's a pipeline to Europe. It doesn't impact the US in any way at all.

OPEC is much weaker than in 2001. Oil prices are much lower than in 2001. Go figure.

The dollar is tied to the oil.............the Petro dollar.................some wanted to go to the dinar and the gold standard..............

In that aspect, our policy is to take them out...............Libya being a prime example now under Obama...............
Oil is a vital World Commodity............always has been...............BRICS is a Pact to defeat the Petro dollar...............

I'm well aware of the Oil interests in the region..................I'm also well aware that the current Lower prices are because of Saudi Arabia and other OPEC nations are purposely Increasing supply to drive the prices down................In response to the BRIC's alliance and to destroy the Ruble.............It is working and Russia isn't too happy about it.......................Syria is about a pipeline....................to sell oil to Europe and to ditch Russia......................

That doesn't change the fact that this region is in a Religious Civil War........a War that has gone on since the 6th Century....................the only difference is now the Wars aren't fought with swords and spears...................but with modern weapons..............the utter barbaric actions of the contestants has never changed...................

You complain about Europe taking control and fucking up the region............before WWI it was already fucked up..........aka the Ottoman Empire...........As they slaughtered the Armenians in the desert and put their heads on pikes...........in the same cursed desert....................The current battlefield in Syria is a GRAVEYARD..................and so history keeps repeating...................

What is the history lesson of this...............the same history lesson taught to the turks in WWI.................Evicted from the area via extreme measures..........aka the French, British, and Austrialian forces killed them and took the land by force..................................at the same time defeating Germany with our help....................

The only way this ends is by force.

War has gone on there, and in many other places, for a long time. A religious war? Perhaps, but one which wouldn't be happening now if the British hadn't have made Iraq like they did and other such decisions that have caused no end of problems.

Yes, the Ottoman Empire did bad things, nothing compared to what the Nazis did in WW2, and things changed there. So why not the Middle East? Probably because the US seems to go in and cause problems all the time.

Why does Iran have a religious state? Oh, the US and their interfering in the last 1970s.....

You say the only way this ends is with force. Force is the thing that's keeping it going. You're wrong, force will not end this. Only peace can end this.

History of the Caliphate says otherwise........................Radical Islam doesn't want Peace.

What does this mean?

Radical Islam is, by it's very nature, RADICAL. So.......

Who the hell do you think is waging war over there.................

You have got to be kidding me.

I wasn't debating who was fighting. I was wondering what the hell you're talking about. You keep doing this as if somehow it's going to help your argument. It doesn't.

 

[Tehon]

Who the hell do you think is waging war over there.................

The US is........along with our "partners". We are waging war on the Assad government. Syria has a long history of oppressing Sunni extremists. Without Western aid to the "opposition" this "uprising" would have already ended.

 

[eagle1462010]

Who the hell do you think is waging war over there.................

The US is........along with our "partners". We are waging war on the Assad government. Syria has a long history of oppressing Sunni extremists. Without Western aid to the "opposition" this "uprising" would have already ended.

I have already stated our current policy is stupid..................

 

[frigidweirdo]

War has gone on there, and in many other places, for a long time. A religious war? Perhaps, but one which wouldn't be happening now if the British hadn't have made Iraq like they did and other such decisions that have caused no end of problems.

Yes, the Ottoman Empire did bad things, nothing compared to what the Nazis did in WW2, and things changed there. So why not the Middle East? Probably because the US seems to go in and cause problems all the time.

Why does Iran have a religious state? Oh, the US and their interfering in the last 1970s.....

You say the only way this ends is with force. Force is the thing that's keeping it going. You're wrong, force will not end this. Only peace can end this.

History of the Caliphate says otherwise........................Radical Islam doesn't want Peace.

What does this mean?

Radical Islam is, by it's very nature, RADICAL. So.......

Who the hell do you think is waging war over there.................

You have got to be kidding me.

I wasn't debating who was fighting. I was wondering what the hell you're talking about. You keep doing this as if somehow it's going to help your argument. It doesn't.

I was calling you an idiot............that clear it up for you.

Fine, youre argument is a load of insults. You've shown you're not really up to speed on this issue, and you've shown you're not very good at listening to people on this issue, and you've shown caveman mentality by resorting to insults instead of discussing things. So you can now go away. I won't be bothering your limited intelligence any further.

 

[eagle1462010]

History of the Caliphate says otherwise........................Radical Islam doesn't want Peace.

What does this mean?

Radical Islam is, by it's very nature, RADICAL. So.......

Who the hell do you think is waging war over there.................

You have got to be kidding me.

I wasn't debating who was fighting. I was wondering what the hell you're talking about. You keep doing this as if somehow it's going to help your argument. It doesn't.

I was calling you an idiot............that clear it up for you.

Fine, youre argument is a load of insults. You've shown you're not really up to speed on this issue, and you've shown you're not very good at listening to people on this issue, and you've shown caveman mentality by resorting to insults instead of discussing things. So you can now go away. I won't be bothering your limited intelligence any further.

bye

 

[Kondor3]

...History of the Caliphate says otherwise....Radical Islam doesn't want Peace.

What does this mean? ...

It means exactly what it says.

The Caliphate wants conquest.

The Caliphate wants the death of unbelievers.

The Caliphate seeks to resurrect fundamentalist early-days bloodthirsty and conquering Islam, and to mainstream it, so that Radical becomes Commonplace.

The Caliphate does not want peace.

Consequently, the Caliphate must be exterminated... cutting the head off the snake, before it grows into something uncontrollable and far more dangerous.

We need to give them Peace... the sort of Peace that may be found in the grave.

 

[frigidweirdo]

...History of the Caliphate says otherwise....Radical Islam doesn't want Peace.

What does this mean? ...

It means exactly what it says.

The Caliphate wants conquest.

The Caliphate wants the death of unbelievers.

The Caliphate seeks to resurrect fundamentalist early-days bloodthirsty and conquering Islam, and to mainstream it, so that Radical becomes Commonplace.

The Caliphate does not want peace.

Consequently, the Caliphate must be exterminated... cutting the head off the snake, before it grows into something uncontrollable and far more dangerous.

We need to give them Peace... the sort of Peace that may be found in the grave.

The problem is, what happens if by taking certain actions you INCREASE the support of people for the very thing you're trying to destroy?

Hearts and minds was the motto of the Iraq War in 2003. Unfortunately they didn't understand the hearts and minds of the Iraqis and didn't know how to achieve what they wanted anyway.

There are two ways of doing something. The first is the grunt way. The 2003 way. The nationalistic way. Just show power and strength.

The other is to use your brain and make intelligent solutions to difficult problems.

I don't see the latter happening any time soon, do you?

So you can try and kill these people, but chances are you'll fail.

 

[Kondor3]

...History of the Caliphate says otherwise....Radical Islam doesn't want Peace.

What does this mean? ...

It means exactly what it says.

The Caliphate wants conquest.

The Caliphate wants the death of unbelievers.

The Caliphate seeks to resurrect fundamentalist early-days bloodthirsty and conquering Islam, and to mainstream it, so that Radical becomes Commonplace.

The Caliphate does not want peace.

Consequently, the Caliphate must be exterminated... cutting the head off the snake, before it grows into something uncontrollable and far more dangerous.

We need to give them Peace... the sort of Peace that may be found in the grave.

The problem is, what happens if by taking certain actions you INCREASE the support of people for the very thing you're trying to destroy?

Hearts and minds was the motto of the Iraq War in 2003. Unfortunately they didn't understand the hearts and minds of the Iraqis and didn't know how to achieve what they wanted anyway.

There are two ways of doing something. The first is the grunt way. The 2003 way. The nationalistic way. Just show power and strength.

The other is to use your brain and make intelligent solutions to difficult problems.

I don't see the latter happening any time soon, do you?

So you can try and kill these people, but chances are you'll fail.

Fundamentalist Islam, as a modern military power, has the potential to be the most dangerous threat to Western Civilization in a thousand years.

"Hearts and minds" will not work.

That leaves extermination, as the only effective means of dealing with this so-called Caliphate.

Not defeat.

Extermination.

By whatever means necessary.

And, as the French President has said, "Without pity".

I wish it were different.

But it is not.

Now, we need to be about that business of extermination.

Without pity... without mercy... no prisoners.

 

[Tehon]

Fundamentalist Islam, as a modern military power, has the potential to be the most dangerous threat to Western Civilization in a thousand years.

"Hearts and minds" will not work.

That leaves extermination, as the only effective means of dealing with this so-called Caliphate.

Not defeat.

Extermination.

By whatever means necessary.

And, as the French President has said, "Without pity".

I wish it were different.

But it is not.

Now, we need to be about that business of extermination.

Without pity... without mercy... no prisoners.

Then you must agree that we start by cutting out the beasts heart. Start the bombing campaign in the KSA. Yes?