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This isn't the first time I've heard about Obama ignoring the advice of generals and instead of even TRYING to make a new deal, he just wanted to pull out of Iraq. Think about it, that was actually one of his campaign promises. I don't know what role Bush played by agreeing to an "end date" in all of this. I thought such things were up for negotiation. I do agree that the Iraq War destabilized the area. Is that because of the war itself or because of how we left the place? The Iraqis themselves also hold some responsibility for this mess. Allowing themselves (governmental officials) to be bought and sold by the extremist elements.
Yeah well, his hands aren't clean either.
No they are not............but he had a hell of a lot more understanding of the situation than the Dumb Ass we have now.
Sure, Obama took a bad situation and made it worse. This is just another reason why it is a good idea to stay OUT of the Syrian garbage. Let them sort out their own damn problems! We don't have to involve ourselves in everything!
This isn't the first time I've heard about Obama ignoring the advice of generals and instead of even TRYING to make a new deal, he just wanted to pull out of Iraq. Think about it, that was actually one of his campaign promises. I don't know what role Bush played by agreeing to an "end date" in all of this. I thought such things were up for negotiation. I do agree that the Iraq War destabilized the area. Is that because of the war itself or because of how we left the place? The Iraqis themselves also hold some responsibility for this mess. Allowing themselves (governmental officials) to be bought and sold by the extremist elements.
Yeah well, his hands aren't clean either.
No they are not............but he had a hell of a lot more understanding of the situation than the Dumb Ass we have now.
Sure, Obama took a bad situation and made it worse. This is just another reason why it is a good idea to stay OUT of the Syrian garbage. Let them sort out their own damn problems! We don't have to involve ourselves in everything!
Listen to Putin...............Our hands aren't clean there...............
Listen carefully about the oil sales there............and why Putin is targeting the hell out of them from the get go as Russia gets into the fight in Syria.....
Again............I'll take the commanding Generals words over yours............................According to Keane and others they said a deal could have been made and that it wasn't the WHITE WASH BS I keep saying from your side.Bush signed a binding agreement with Iraq a month before he left office. This was after the election and he knew that Obama had campaigned and won the election on promising to end the war and military involvement in Iraq. He could have delayed the agreement and told the Iraqi's they would have to negotiate with the new incoming President. Instead, he dumped a mess on America, the new President and the military and committed the US to follow a time table years into the future so that he and his followers could make the bogus claim that he "ended" the war in Iraq.You are the party of excuses.........................Did Obama have to ASK FOR PERMISSION FROM BUSH to make a DECISION IN IRAQ....................Kinda like HEY DAD CAN I USE YOUR CAR..............................The final withdrawal was subject to change based on the situation in Iraq.................In the Presidential debates with Romney he said as much.............The final decision came from the new Commander N Chief and he made the final call....................which was wrong.............He ran on getting us out of there............He had no intentions of staying if the situation wasn't ready for it................You can't blame Bush for decisions he made.............Politicians don't listen? The politicians listen. What they're listening to are people who don't understand and want short term goals.
Look at Trump. He's parroting those who are nationalistic and simplistic, and he's doing well. The message is simple, far too simple, but too many people connect to simplistic messages.
He's not saying anything novel or new. He's merely putting it together in a package and being loud about it, and people seem to like that.
You keep blaming Obama for running away. But Bush started the running away. Bush gave Obama the written document that said he had to run away and EVERYONE supported it in politics, like 66% of Republicans supported it. So why would he do any different? HE WAS LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE.
So those who served feel betrayed? Why did they not feel betrayed that they being sent to places like Iraq, under equipped and in a bad situation made by the C-in-C Bush?
You talk about the old argument of Under equipped troops............but forget as part of the Budget cuts under Clinton we had a MASSIVE reduction in Military Budget, bases , and troops..........Your side was all too happy to Cheer for that then............and HYPOCRITES LATER for saying we sent men off to War without the equipment after CUTTING THE FUCK OUT OF THE MILITARY...............That is nothing more than circle jerk politics.
So you think it was a wrong call. Is it wrong when 66% of REPUBLICANS thought he should have withdrawn? Isn't that called LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE?
So, you're saying he shouldn't have listened to the people? 75% of them thought he should have withdrawn, and he should have just gone with the 25% because..... because 6 years later and with hindsight, the Republicans changed their mind?
Maybe BUSH shouldn't have gone into Iraq. Yeah, loads of people supported that too. Mainly because of his own propaganda about nuclear programs and WMD which was bullshit and they knew it.
He made the FINAL CALL.....................and you try to lay that Blame on Bush.....................In the Debates Romney warned against it..............AS DID BUSH if the situation warranted a longer stay....................They were RIGHT and Obama was WRONG...................At a minimum our intel network should have remained.........................
Your side is good at blaming OTHERS for your own SHITTY DECISIONS.................Kinda like Libya..........and the Gun Running to Syria out of there..........How'd that TURN OUT............YEMEN......EGYPT..............Obama is a FAILURE.
You quote the standard talking points of the left. If the shoe fits.I'm not really sure I'm a party at all. I mean, I don't drink, I don't really go to parties any more. Also, I don't belong to a political party, just on the off chance this is what you were talking about, and I've never voted Republican or Democrat. So.... I'm not sure how I am a party.
Your side keeps saying it's Bush's fault............the decision wasn't his...........Did you fucking elect a President or a Boy Scout Troop Leader........What do you mean "did Obama ask for permission"?
BS........the Generals and Intel agencies were saying don't do it...........it will cause the North to go unstable and get what we have today.......They were ignored.Firstly Bush signed the order to leave and started the withdrawal process. Secondly the people, on all sides, were behind the withdrawal. I don't see why you're blaming for something when both sides are to blame for something, that seems to some, a bad idea in HINDSIGHT.
Yeah, Obama campaigned on the COOLNESS of helping CREATE A VACUUM THERE........and another VACUUM in Libya..........he missed his calling as a VACUUM CLEANER SALESMAN.........At the time most people thought it was a GOOD IDEA.
The surge in Afghanistan.........under Obama was working............and if you'd have watched the video's I provided Obama cut too soon and caused the field commanders not to have enough forces to deal with the North there..........and in these areas now we are having major problems..........The Commanders are ordered to more with less..........and then asked why they can win.......pfft.Also the strategy of moving more troops to Afghanistan to deal with the situation there, meant that troops had to leave Iraq in order to go somewhere else.
That YOUR SIDE agreed to do and said the same things.......Firstly, you say it was a shitty decision. I'm not sure on that one. The shitty decisions were taken in 2003 by Bush and Bremer.
Finally something we can agree on.............now tell me about the gun running there back to Syria which ended up in ISIS hands to overthrow Assad.Libya was Obama being a politician, blinded by the desire to be popular. There's nothing positive I can say about his actions there.
Obama's policy was to overthrow Assad.........still is but Russia is now forcing a change in that path..........which is why SOFT targets like the oil fields and oil tankers are finally getting destroyed...........They should have been destroyed over a year ago.Moving into Syria is also a really bad idea. He needs to be stronger on his principles, he's too willing to drop them when things change.
aka His foreign policy there was WRONG AGAIN......................Egypt was Obama moving on something he thought right, and others did, and was wrong, and probably not a great idea, but he didn't do much, it was the Egyptians doing their own thing and finding their own way. So...
No they are not............but he had a hell of a lot more understanding of the situation than the Dumb Ass we have now.
Sure, Obama took a bad situation and made it worse. This is just another reason why it is a good idea to stay OUT of the Syrian garbage. Let them sort out their own damn problems! We don't have to involve ourselves in everything!
Listen to Putin...............Our hands aren't clean there...............
Listen carefully about the oil sales there............and why Putin is targeting the hell out of them from the get go as Russia gets into the fight in Syria.....
Sorry, I don't really consider Putin, the ex-KGB agent, to be a very honest individual.
aka You hate the military.........I get it............They are ordered to WIN WARS..........and then don't get the support they ask for by people like Obama...................and then told they suck WHEN POLITICIANS TIE THEIR HANDS...................Obama ignored general’s pleas to keep American forces in Iraq
Retired ArmyGen. John M. Keane, who advised commanders in Iraq and helped devise the 2007 troop surge, remembers how the U.S. achieved victory by working hand in hand with Iraq’s military to conduct pinpoint strikes. The effort was so effective that the enemy, al Qaeda in Iraq, stopped sending killers into Iraq because they would be exterminated quickly.
In December 2011, the U.S. military left, led by Army Gen. Lloyd J. Austin III, who now heads U.S. Central Command and is studying options for helping Baghdad survive absent U.S. combat troops.
The exit was completed too soon, Gen. Keane said.
“As we pulled out of Iraq in 2011, just think of this: We had all our intelligence capability there. We knew where the enemy was. We were flying drones. We’re tracking them. We have signals intelligence pouring in, eavesdropping on phone conversations and the rest of it. We’re using our counterterrorism forces to bang against these guys. We’re passing that information to the Iraqis so their commandos can do the same,” the general said.
After several years of reduced violence in Iraq, the Americans left.
“On a given day in 2011, that screen went blank. The Iraqis went from a significant amount of intelligence on what was taking place, and the screen just went blank,” Gen. Keane said.
But generals are generals. Oh, please, keep spending loads of money on the military, make me get promoted a few more times.
The military has agendas alright.......................it's called WINNING A WAR....................that is their agenda..................Your statement is utter horse hockey.Again............I'll take the commanding Generals words over yours............................According to Keane and others they said a deal could have been made and that it wasn't the WHITE WASH BS I keep saying from your side.Bush signed a binding agreement with Iraq a month before he left office. This was after the election and he knew that Obama had campaigned and won the election on promising to end the war and military involvement in Iraq. He could have delayed the agreement and told the Iraqi's they would have to negotiate with the new incoming President. Instead, he dumped a mess on America, the new President and the military and committed the US to follow a time table years into the future so that he and his followers could make the bogus claim that he "ended" the war in Iraq.You are the party of excuses.........................Did Obama have to ASK FOR PERMISSION FROM BUSH to make a DECISION IN IRAQ....................Kinda like HEY DAD CAN I USE YOUR CAR..............................The final withdrawal was subject to change based on the situation in Iraq.................In the Presidential debates with Romney he said as much.............The final decision came from the new Commander N Chief and he made the final call....................which was wrong.............He ran on getting us out of there............He had no intentions of staying if the situation wasn't ready for it................You can't blame Bush for decisions he made.............
You talk about the old argument of Under equipped troops............but forget as part of the Budget cuts under Clinton we had a MASSIVE reduction in Military Budget, bases , and troops..........Your side was all too happy to Cheer for that then............and HYPOCRITES LATER for saying we sent men off to War without the equipment after CUTTING THE FUCK OUT OF THE MILITARY...............That is nothing more than circle jerk politics.
So you think it was a wrong call. Is it wrong when 66% of REPUBLICANS thought he should have withdrawn? Isn't that called LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE?
So, you're saying he shouldn't have listened to the people? 75% of them thought he should have withdrawn, and he should have just gone with the 25% because..... because 6 years later and with hindsight, the Republicans changed their mind?
Maybe BUSH shouldn't have gone into Iraq. Yeah, loads of people supported that too. Mainly because of his own propaganda about nuclear programs and WMD which was bullshit and they knew it.
He made the FINAL CALL.....................and you try to lay that Blame on Bush.....................In the Debates Romney warned against it..............AS DID BUSH if the situation warranted a longer stay....................They were RIGHT and Obama was WRONG...................At a minimum our intel network should have remained.........................
Your side is good at blaming OTHERS for your own SHITTY DECISIONS.................Kinda like Libya..........and the Gun Running to Syria out of there..........How'd that TURN OUT............YEMEN......EGYPT..............Obama is a FAILURE.
With a source you always have to ask yourself. Why did they say what they said?
Sometimes people have their own agendas.
you sound like a conservative issac. "the moment" arrived on 9/11... twice.And if it turns out to be French nationals who self-radicalized? What, civil war?
Time is up, we know who the enemy is. If they only 'influenced' others to take this action that is enough. They must be dealt with. Evil men will do evil until they are stopped.
Inaction by the West only instills confidence and a great recruiting atmosphere for these groups. "Look! The US and its allies are too afraid to come fight us".
At some point Nato has to put an end to this shit and that moment has arrived.
Listen to Putin...............Our hands aren't clean there...............No they are not............but he had a hell of a lot more understanding of the situation than the Dumb Ass we have now.Yeah well, his hands aren't clean either.
Sure, Obama took a bad situation and made it worse. This is just another reason why it is a good idea to stay OUT of the Syrian garbage. Let them sort out their own damn problems! We don't have to involve ourselves in everything!
Listen carefully about the oil sales there............and why Putin is targeting the hell out of them from the get go as Russia gets into the fight in Syria.....
Sorry, I don't really consider Putin, the ex-KGB agent, to be a very honest individual.
He's not my hero but he's right and this video goes right to the point of current targeting of the FUNDING OF ISIS.........aka the other thread on the tankers getting destroyed.
Umm.... Bush signed the agreement to pull all of our troops out of Iraq. Why would he do that if he believed this would happen?The Battle ongoing was a Civil War between Shiite and Sunni factions...........left over Baathist from Saddam wanting the power back..................The agreement Bush was going for was DEPENDENT ON THE CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND.........................Bush stated that pulling out cold turkey would result in what has happened.....................As did Romney.............................It is such an odd defense that defies logic. Bush created a democracy in Iraq that was a success until Obama lost it. How did Obama lose it. By not going against public opinion and breaking the contract that Bush signed with his successful democratic government. The contract that was supposed to prove Bush's success, that Iraq could stand on its own. Some of you must be contortionists in your day job.
It doesn't matter..................Obama made the FINAL CALL and it was HIS FINAL DECISION...............I'm sick of the blame game..........because the Generals, Intel agencies, Bush, Romney ALL SAID THIS WOULD HAPPEN when Obama made the final decision......................
He didn't listen.........he wanted out at the first opportunity.............and hauled ass...................knowing later if the place went to shit that he could hold up the document and say IT'S BUSHES FAULT................What a hell of a CNC......................pffft.....................
I got out of the military because I couldn't stomach anymore of Clinton after Somalia.................and now the chump Obama is even worse to our people in Uniform...........
The BUCK STOPS with WHO MADE THE CALL..............and it WAS WRONG.
Bush signed a political agreement.............but had said on repeated occasions that it depended on the conditions at the time frame....................New agreements can be made via negotiation at a later date..........................Reps in Iraqi gov't were pushing for a deal...............it was political appeasement to shut them up.Umm.... Bush signed the agreement to pull all of our troops out of Iraq. Why would he do that if he believed this would happen?The Battle ongoing was a Civil War between Shiite and Sunni factions...........left over Baathist from Saddam wanting the power back..................The agreement Bush was going for was DEPENDENT ON THE CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND.........................Bush stated that pulling out cold turkey would result in what has happened.....................As did Romney.............................It is such an odd defense that defies logic. Bush created a democracy in Iraq that was a success until Obama lost it. How did Obama lose it. By not going against public opinion and breaking the contract that Bush signed with his successful democratic government. The contract that was supposed to prove Bush's success, that Iraq could stand on its own. Some of you must be contortionists in your day job.
It doesn't matter..................Obama made the FINAL CALL and it was HIS FINAL DECISION...............I'm sick of the blame game..........because the Generals, Intel agencies, Bush, Romney ALL SAID THIS WOULD HAPPEN when Obama made the final decision......................
He didn't listen.........he wanted out at the first opportunity.............and hauled ass...................knowing later if the place went to shit that he could hold up the document and say IT'S BUSHES FAULT................What a hell of a CNC......................pffft.....................
I got out of the military because I couldn't stomach anymore of Clinton after Somalia.................and now the chump Obama is even worse to our people in Uniform...........
The BUCK STOPS with WHO MADE THE CALL..............and it WAS WRONG.
What would have happened is that American troops would have been arrested and tried by an Iraqi court and Republicans would have attacked Obama for leaving troops there without first securing an immunity deal.OK, so let's PRETEND like we kept troops there, and Obama did not bring them home....The Battle ongoing was a Civil War between Shiite and Sunni factions...........left over Baathist from Saddam wanting the power back..................The agreement Bush was going for was DEPENDENT ON THE CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND.........................Bush stated that pulling out cold turkey would result in what has happened.....................As did Romney.............................It is such an odd defense that defies logic. Bush created a democracy in Iraq that was a success until Obama lost it. How did Obama lose it. By not going against public opinion and breaking the contract that Bush signed with his successful democratic government. The contract that was supposed to prove Bush's success, that Iraq could stand on its own. Some of you must be contortionists in your day job.
It doesn't matter..................Obama made the FINAL CALL and it was HIS FINAL DECISION...............I'm sick of the blame game..........because the Generals, Intel agencies, Bush, Romney ALL SAID THIS WOULD HAPPEN when Obama made the final decision......................
He didn't listen.........he wanted out at the first opportunity.............and hauled ass...................knowing later if the place went to shit that he could hold up the document and say IT'S BUSHES FAULT................What a hell of a CNC......................pffft.....................
I got out of the military because I couldn't stomach anymore of Clinton after Somalia.................and now the chump Obama is even worse to our people in Uniform...........
The BUCK STOPS with WHO MADE THE CALL..............and it WAS WRONG.
what would that rosy scenario be??
how long would the troops be there? would any more troops be killed? would terrorism and jihadists disappear in the whole middle east? would shiites and sunnis be having a lovefest? And in Iran, Syria, Palestine, Egypt ,Libya, Somalia etc etc.... tell us how wonderful it would all be there in this PRETEND scenario.... I'm all ears....
Then Bush should never have signed it.Bush signed a political agreement.............but had said on repeated occasions that it depended on the conditions at the time frame....................New agreements can be made via negotiation at a later date..........................Reps in Iraqi gov't were pushing for a deal...............it was political appeasement to shut them up.Umm.... Bush signed the agreement to pull all of our troops out of Iraq. Why would he do that if he believed this would happen?The Battle ongoing was a Civil War between Shiite and Sunni factions...........left over Baathist from Saddam wanting the power back..................The agreement Bush was going for was DEPENDENT ON THE CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND.........................Bush stated that pulling out cold turkey would result in what has happened.....................As did Romney.............................It is such an odd defense that defies logic. Bush created a democracy in Iraq that was a success until Obama lost it. How did Obama lose it. By not going against public opinion and breaking the contract that Bush signed with his successful democratic government. The contract that was supposed to prove Bush's success, that Iraq could stand on its own. Some of you must be contortionists in your day job.
It doesn't matter..................Obama made the FINAL CALL and it was HIS FINAL DECISION...............I'm sick of the blame game..........because the Generals, Intel agencies, Bush, Romney ALL SAID THIS WOULD HAPPEN when Obama made the final decision......................
He didn't listen.........he wanted out at the first opportunity.............and hauled ass...................knowing later if the place went to shit that he could hold up the document and say IT'S BUSHES FAULT................What a hell of a CNC......................pffft.....................
I got out of the military because I couldn't stomach anymore of Clinton after Somalia.................and now the chump Obama is even worse to our people in Uniform...........
The BUCK STOPS with WHO MADE THE CALL..............and it WAS WRONG.
Why are you even offering an opinion?I'll let General Keane answer that for you.............OK, so let's PRETEND like we kept troops there, and Obama did not bring them home....The Battle ongoing was a Civil War between Shiite and Sunni factions...........left over Baathist from Saddam wanting the power back..................The agreement Bush was going for was DEPENDENT ON THE CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND.........................Bush stated that pulling out cold turkey would result in what has happened.....................As did Romney.............................It is such an odd defense that defies logic. Bush created a democracy in Iraq that was a success until Obama lost it. How did Obama lose it. By not going against public opinion and breaking the contract that Bush signed with his successful democratic government. The contract that was supposed to prove Bush's success, that Iraq could stand on its own. Some of you must be contortionists in your day job.
It doesn't matter..................Obama made the FINAL CALL and it was HIS FINAL DECISION...............I'm sick of the blame game..........because the Generals, Intel agencies, Bush, Romney ALL SAID THIS WOULD HAPPEN when Obama made the final decision......................
He didn't listen.........he wanted out at the first opportunity.............and hauled ass...................knowing later if the place went to shit that he could hold up the document and say IT'S BUSHES FAULT................What a hell of a CNC......................pffft.....................
I got out of the military because I couldn't stomach anymore of Clinton after Somalia.................and now the chump Obama is even worse to our people in Uniform...........
The BUCK STOPS with WHO MADE THE CALL..............and it WAS WRONG.
what would that rosy scenario be??
how long would the troops be there? would any more troops be killed? would terrorism and jihadists disappear in the whole middle east? would shiites and sunnis be having a lovefest? And in Iran, Syria, Palestine, Egypt ,Libya, Somalia etc etc.... tell us how wonderful it would all be there in this PRETEND scenario.... I'm all ears....
The General in the interview is so uninformed about Iraq that he refers to it as an Arab country. It is unbelievable that guys as uninformed as him are giving advice. Persians and Kurds are not Arabic speaking peoples.
Arab League Nations Countries
The Arab League comprises of 22 members. The members are Jordan, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Tunisia, Algeria, Djibouti, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Syria, Somalia, Iraq, Oman, Palestine, Qatar, Comoros, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, Egypt, Morocco, Mauritiana and Yemen. The League is involved in political, economic, cultural and social programs to promote the interests of the member states. It has successfully settled some Arab disputes.
This isn't the first time I've heard about Obama ignoring the advice of generals and instead of even TRYING to make a new deal, he just wanted to pull out of Iraq. Think about it, that was actually one of his campaign promises. I don't know what role Bush played by agreeing to an "end date" in all of this. I thought such things were up for negotiation. I do agree that the Iraq War destabilized the area. Is that because of the war itself or because of how we left the place? The Iraqis themselves also hold some responsibility for this mess. Allowing themselves (governmental officials) to be bought and sold by the extremist elements.
You quote the standard talking points of the left. If the shoe fits.I'm not really sure I'm a party at all. I mean, I don't drink, I don't really go to parties any more. Also, I don't belong to a political party, just on the off chance this is what you were talking about, and I've never voted Republican or Democrat. So.... I'm not sure how I am a party.
Your side keeps saying it's Bush's fault............the decision wasn't his...........Did you fucking elect a President or a Boy Scout Troop Leader........What do you mean "did Obama ask for permission"?
BS........the Generals and Intel agencies were saying don't do it...........it will cause the North to go unstable and get what we have today.......They were ignored.Firstly Bush signed the order to leave and started the withdrawal process. Secondly the people, on all sides, were behind the withdrawal. I don't see why you're blaming for something when both sides are to blame for something, that seems to some, a bad idea in HINDSIGHT.
Yeah, Obama campaigned on the COOLNESS of helping CREATE A VACUUM THERE........and another VACUUM in Libya..........he missed his calling as a VACUUM CLEANER SALESMAN.........At the time most people thought it was a GOOD IDEA.
The surge in Afghanistan.........under Obama was working............and if you'd have watched the video's I provided Obama cut too soon and caused the field commanders not to have enough forces to deal with the North there..........and in these areas now we are having major problems..........The Commanders are ordered to more with less..........and then asked why they can win.......pfft.Also the strategy of moving more troops to Afghanistan to deal with the situation there, meant that troops had to leave Iraq in order to go somewhere else.
That YOUR SIDE agreed to do and said the same things.......Firstly, you say it was a shitty decision. I'm not sure on that one. The shitty decisions were taken in 2003 by Bush and Bremer.
Finally something we can agree on.............now tell me about the gun running there back to Syria which ended up in ISIS hands to overthrow Assad.Libya was Obama being a politician, blinded by the desire to be popular. There's nothing positive I can say about his actions there.
Obama's policy was to overthrow Assad.........still is but Russia is now forcing a change in that path..........which is why SOFT targets like the oil fields and oil tankers are finally getting destroyed...........They should have been destroyed over a year ago.Moving into Syria is also a really bad idea. He needs to be stronger on his principles, he's too willing to drop them when things change.
aka His foreign policy there was WRONG AGAIN......................Egypt was Obama moving on something he thought right, and others did, and was wrong, and probably not a great idea, but he didn't do much, it was the Egyptians doing their own thing and finding their own way. So...
aka You hate the military.........I get it............They are ordered to WIN WARS..........and then don't get the support they ask for by people like Obama...................and then told they suck WHEN POLITICIANS TIE THEIR HANDS...................Obama ignored general’s pleas to keep American forces in Iraq
Retired ArmyGen. John M. Keane, who advised commanders in Iraq and helped devise the 2007 troop surge, remembers how the U.S. achieved victory by working hand in hand with Iraq’s military to conduct pinpoint strikes. The effort was so effective that the enemy, al Qaeda in Iraq, stopped sending killers into Iraq because they would be exterminated quickly.
In December 2011, the U.S. military left, led by Army Gen. Lloyd J. Austin III, who now heads U.S. Central Command and is studying options for helping Baghdad survive absent U.S. combat troops.
The exit was completed too soon, Gen. Keane said.
“As we pulled out of Iraq in 2011, just think of this: We had all our intelligence capability there. We knew where the enemy was. We were flying drones. We’re tracking them. We have signals intelligence pouring in, eavesdropping on phone conversations and the rest of it. We’re using our counterterrorism forces to bang against these guys. We’re passing that information to the Iraqis so their commandos can do the same,” the general said.
After several years of reduced violence in Iraq, the Americans left.
“On a given day in 2011, that screen went blank. The Iraqis went from a significant amount of intelligence on what was taking place, and the screen just went blank,” Gen. Keane said.
But generals are generals. Oh, please, keep spending loads of money on the military, make me get promoted a few more times.
Spare me....................People like Petraous took control of Northern Iraq when the Dems said the War was lost...............They were...............wait for it...................WRONG AGAIN............
The Dems have a good recent history of being WRONG.
The military has agendas alright.......................it's called WINNING A WAR....................that is their agenda..................Your statement is utter horse hockey.
