Active Shooter Reported Near Planned Parenthood In Colorado

[jillian]

Or maybe the security guard should have been...if he wasn't.

From the facts that are coming forth, he didn't first target the planned parenthood, but those in cars near the grocery store. It would appear the back lot was a perfect cover to be able ,to shoot toward them without being seen easily, if you see the layout.

Do remember they had a guy less than a month ago shooting at people on bikes, walking, in cars, in the very same city. He killed 3.

Why did planned parenthoods security not respond, other than remaining in their locked safe room, when he stormed the building? Alot of good that extra expense did, to try to make the place safer. Or were they not allowed to be armed? If so, then it was just for a false sense of security and show only. Sad.

Actually, it was good guys with guns that prevented anymore injured or dead. How many did they rescue?

the way to get rid a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a g.... oh never mind....

too bad it wasn't a darkened clinic & everyone was armed 'eh?

I can't answer that... maybe they are like mall cops. perhaps all the doctors and ancillary staff should be packing & all the clients coming in shoulda been too....

i suspect that's a fantasy unsupported by reality. he didn't shoot at the cars. he killed people in the clinic.

 

[Mac1958]

You summed it up quite nicely, except if you are only implying that it should not have been brought to people's attention what some planned parenthood's have been involved in, then I don't agree..

It is really sickening that politics immediately play into a tragic shooting. People that do this type of thing are sick and evil.

We don't have all the facts yet, so I admit I'm being premature here.

But the fact remains that there are people, particularly in media, who have a vested professional and financial interest in making people angry (or angrier). And these people are doing this under the umbrella of politics.

If (yes, a big "if") it turns out this guy is what he appears to be, well, they may have played a role in getting him to this point.
.

No, it's all fair game. My point is that this is a sick guy whose issues were probably exacerbated by an outside stimulant.
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[depotoo]

That proves nothing. Less than a month ago, same city a man aimed at people on bikes, in cars, and walking and killed 3. PP had nothing to do with it. This guy yesterday was first shooting towards the grocery store.

"operation rescue" terrorists responsible like they were for dr hillman's death?

Health centers associated with Planned Parenthood have been the target of threats and violence because of the organization’s role in providing abortions and lobbying for reproductive rights. Abortion rights groups say threats against abortion providers rose sharply this summer in the wake of an undercover “sting” mounted by an antiabortion group that filmed one of its videos at a clinic in Denver.

At least four Planned Parenthood clinics have been targeted with arson since the videos were released. The increase in threats has led abortion rights groups to increase cooperation with local police and the FBI.

Gunman kills officer, two others at Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado

 

[jillian]

ok. *shakes head*

i'm sure you'd be saying the same thing is the shooter had been black or arab.

 

[playtime]

whoever it is (American?) & their agenda (abortion nut or general nut? or Muslim?)is not any different than any homegrown terrorist.

Sure there's a difference.
If it's a foreign terrorist he shouldnt have been here in the first place.

Unless he/she/it is here legally.

Than he/she wasnt properly vetted and never should have been allowed to enter in the first place.

LOL. what a silly notion. nobody is a criminal, until they are. somebody coming here LEGALLY to live has been properly vetted.

Derp.....apparently they weren't if they killed a bunch of people.

well you see.............. if they killed a bunch of people b4 coming here.... they wouldn't have been let in. killing a bunch of people after the fact kinda reflects our exceptional American Constitution... you know that little blurb the RW nutters find so inCONveeeeeeenient?

that would be

innocent until proven guilty.

yaaaaaaa.... that's the ticket.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Sure there's a difference.
If it's a foreign terrorist he shouldnt have been here in the first place.

Unless he/she/it is here legally.

Than he/she wasnt properly vetted and never should have been allowed to enter in the first place.

LOL. what a silly notion. nobody is a criminal, until they are. somebody coming here LEGALLY to live has been properly vetted.

Derp.....apparently they weren't if they killed a bunch of people.

how do you vet someone who hasn't committed a crime yet?

oh... should we profile radical religious freaks because they might be terrorists who shoot people at women's clinics?

what would you say about that? (and you might want to stop making this thread about your bigotry and stick to the thread topic... which is that a domestic terrorist shot up a women's clinic.

You mean an abortion clinic.....like thats the first time anyone died in that building. How about we just chalk this up as a few late term abortions?
And what about the domestic terrorist that shut down commerce on the biggest shopping day of the year last week?
Pretty sure they made a bunch more..shall we say detractors with that bonehead move.

 

[AceRothstein]

The shooter's mom should have had an abortion.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Sure there's a difference.
If it's a foreign terrorist he shouldnt have been here in the first place.

Unless he/she/it is here legally.

Than he/she wasnt properly vetted and never should have been allowed to enter in the first place.

LOL. what a silly notion. nobody is a criminal, until they are. somebody coming here LEGALLY to live has been properly vetted.

Derp.....apparently they weren't if they killed a bunch of people.

well you see.............. if they killed a bunch of people b4 coming here.... they wouldn't have been let in. killing a bunch of people after the fact kinda reflects our exceptional American Constitution... you know that little blurb the RW nutters find so inCONveeeeeeenient?

that would be

innocent until proven guilty.

yaaaaaaa.... that's the ticket.

Ah...so you finally admit there is no way to vet all the "immigrants" obozo is letting in the country with any accuracy.

 

[playtime]

Or maybe the security guard should have been...if he wasn't.

From the facts that are coming forth, he didn't first target the planned parenthood, but those in cars near the grocery store. It would appear the back lot was a perfect cover to be able ,to shoot toward them without being seen easily, if you see the layout.

Do remember they had a guy less than a month ago shooting at people on bikes, walking, in cars, in the very same city. He killed 3.

Why did planned parenthoods security not respond, other than remaining in their locked safe room, when he stormed the building? Alot of good that extra expense did, to try to make the place safer. Or were they not allowed to be armed? If so, then it was just for a false sense of security and show only. Sad.

Actually, it was good guys with guns that prevented anymore injured or dead. How many did they rescue?

the way to get rid a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a g.... oh never mind....

too bad it wasn't a darkened clinic & everyone was armed 'eh?

I can't answer that... maybe they are like mall cops. perhaps all the doctors and ancillary staff should be packing & all the clients coming in shoulda been too....

ummm ya.......... I have no problems with cops & security detail being trained & armed. I have a problem with every citizen packing...& trained to shoot - but not trained in high stress situations.

should every driver & bike rider should carry a concealed weapon?

 

[Iceweasel]

"operation rescue" terrorists responsible like they were for dr hillman's death?

Could be. And that makes how many compared to the liberals throwing the ultimate temper tantrum and shooting up schools or theaters? Or Muslims Jihadis? Not that it makes it better but to be totally out of perspective makes no sense.

 

[playtime]

Unless he/she/it is here legally.

Than he/she wasnt properly vetted and never should have been allowed to enter in the first place.

LOL. what a silly notion. nobody is a criminal, until they are. somebody coming here LEGALLY to live has been properly vetted.

Derp.....apparently they weren't if they killed a bunch of people.

well you see.............. if they killed a bunch of people b4 coming here.... they wouldn't have been let in. killing a bunch of people after the fact kinda reflects our exceptional American Constitution... you know that little blurb the RW nutters find so inCONveeeeeeenient?

that would be

innocent until proven guilty.

yaaaaaaa.... that's the ticket.

Ah...so you finally admit there is no way to vet all the "immigrants" obozo is letting in the country with any accuracy.

actually you should go back to school & brush up on your reading comp. cause you sure are failing today.

 

[Iceweasel]

ummm ya.......... I have no problems with cops & security detail being trained & armed. I have a problem with every citizen packing to shoot... but not in high stress situations.

should every driver & bike rider should carry a concealed weapon?

If they want. The problem is it isn't your decision. Lots of people have guns, very few commit murder with them. Many many more people died in the abortion mill though, so a little perspective helps.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Than he/she wasnt properly vetted and never should have been allowed to enter in the first place.

LOL. what a silly notion. nobody is a criminal, until they are. somebody coming here LEGALLY to live has been properly vetted.

Derp.....apparently they weren't if they killed a bunch of people.

well you see.............. if they killed a bunch of people b4 coming here.... they wouldn't have been let in. killing a bunch of people after the fact kinda reflects our exceptional American Constitution... you know that little blurb the RW nutters find so inCONveeeeeeenient?

that would be

innocent until proven guilty.

yaaaaaaa.... that's the ticket.

Ah...so you finally admit there is no way to vet all the "immigrants" obozo is letting in the country with any accuracy.

actually you should go back to school & brush up on your reading comp. cause you sure are failing today.

You might want to brush up on capital letters and where they should be used.

 

[Lakhota]

Sounds like the shooter is a white terrorist.

 

[playtime]

LOL. what a silly notion. nobody is a criminal, until they are. somebody coming here LEGALLY to live has been properly vetted.

Derp.....apparently they weren't if they killed a bunch of people.

well you see.............. if they killed a bunch of people b4 coming here.... they wouldn't have been let in. killing a bunch of people after the fact kinda reflects our exceptional American Constitution... you know that little blurb the RW nutters find so inCONveeeeeeenient?

that would be

innocent until proven guilty.

yaaaaaaa.... that's the ticket.

Ah...so you finally admit there is no way to vet all the "immigrants" obozo is letting in the country with any accuracy.

actually you should go back to school & brush up on your reading comp. cause you sure are failing today.

You might want to brush up on capital letters and where they should be used.

LOL. yet, what I wrote is perfectly understandable whether they contain capital letters or not.

so what's your excuse? inbreeding?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Derp.....apparently they weren't if they killed a bunch of people.

well you see.............. if they killed a bunch of people b4 coming here.... they wouldn't have been let in. killing a bunch of people after the fact kinda reflects our exceptional American Constitution... you know that little blurb the RW nutters find so inCONveeeeeeenient?

that would be

innocent until proven guilty.

yaaaaaaa.... that's the ticket.

Ah...so you finally admit there is no way to vet all the "immigrants" obozo is letting in the country with any accuracy.

actually you should go back to school & brush up on your reading comp. cause you sure are failing today.

You might want to brush up on capital letters and where they should be used.

LOL. yet, what I wrote is perfectly understandable whether they contain capital letters or not.

so what's your excuse? inbreeding?

And the typical liberal style of debate rears it's ugly head.

 

[Lakhota]

Does anyone think cops would have allowed a black guy to surrender, unharmed, after shooting several white people and killing a cop?

 

[playtime]

ummm ya.......... I have no problems with cops & security detail being trained & armed. I have a problem with every citizen packing to shoot... but not in high stress situations.

should every driver & bike rider should carry a concealed weapon?

If they want. The problem is it isn't your decision. Lots of people have guns, very few commit murder with them. Many many more people died in the abortion mill though, so a little perspective helps.

no shit... we have several firearms in our home. & we never committed murder either- GASP! however, in a high stressed situation- you are not going to have rational thinking. & when the law shows up- you think they will discern who is the criminal & who is the good guy?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Does anyone think cops would have allowed a black guy to surrender, unharmed, after shooting several white people and killing a cop?

Everything has to be racist to you...it's sad and getting old

 

[Iceweasel]

ummm ya.......... I have no problems with cops & security detail being trained & armed. I have a problem with every citizen packing to shoot... but not in high stress situations.

should every driver & bike rider should carry a concealed weapon?

If they want. The problem is it isn't your decision. Lots of people have guns, very few commit murder with them. Many many more people died in the abortion mill though, so a little perspective helps.

no shit... we have several firearms in our home. & we never committed murder either- GASP! however, in a high stressed situation- you are not going to have rational thinking. & when the law shows up- you think they will discern who is the criminal & who is the good guy?

Depends what you are doing. If cops show up and cover the scene you lay your arms down and hold your hands up. As far as stress goes, I'd be a hell of a lot more stressed out if someone was shooting at me and I was unarmed.