Affirmative action, helpful or harmful?

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

More qualified people got passed over....only a dumb fuck leftist can't grasp what is wrong with that.

So it's never occurred to you that perhaps the most qualified people to do a particular job were never given consideration in the first place, let alone allowed to compete for those jobs due to the fact that our country was legally segregated at the time?

I am well aware of the fact that affirmative action was legislated into law after the Tuskegee Airmen flew their way into the history books but there is no escaping that the often told lie of "unqualified African Americans" taking jobs from qualified Caucasian candidates is just that, a lie. No one can say that they weren't qualified, yet they returned back to the U.S. at the end of the war to find that it would be almost 20 years before the first African American was hired to fly for the commercial airlines.

 

[rightwinger]

Anyone with a mother, wife or daughter has received the benefits of affirmative action. Along with minorities, handicapped

A major success

Great.....another one. You think that all these people got ahead in life because of some corrupt program. You don't give those people credit for their own accomplishments, you say they couldn't have done it without AA. Pathetic.

Is your mother, wife or daughter a secretary, teacher, nurse or beautician?

If not, they have benefitted from affirmative action

Sorry that’s bs

Show me how many women or minorities were in executive positions in the 1960s

Correlation....

Show me the numbers of women in executive positions, women who got into med school, female engineers, female accountants

A woman in the 60s with a college degree was offered a secretarial position

Until affirmative action

 

[Rocko]

Affirmative action hurts those more qualified...needs to end

In your opinion was the government program which authorized the U.S. Army Air Corps to train a group of African American men as pilots during WWII an "affirmative action" program? And if so, who was more qualified to do the job than they that they displaced?

AA didn't exist then...but my father was career Navy and he told many a good man and woman got passed over due to AA. It's not right and careers stalled due to it

And our services have many more minorities and women in positions of command.

The Lilly White, Christian command structure is gone for good

Even SmellyIrishAss has benefitted from affirmative action

More qualified people got passed over....only a dumb fuck leftist can't grasp what is wrong with that.

Now cease with your middle school shit, it's already old

Actually ....before affirmative action
Qualified people were never given a chance

So it your contention that minoritys and women are only where are today because of a government discrimination program? Surely there are some that made it on their own merit, no?

 

[rightwinger]

In your opinion was the government program which authorized the U.S. Army Air Corps to train a group of African American men as pilots during WWII an "affirmative action" program? And if so, who was more qualified to do the job than they that they displaced?

AA didn't exist then...but my father was career Navy and he told many a good man and woman got passed over due to AA. It's not right and careers stalled due to it

And our services have many more minorities and women in positions of command.

The Lilly White, Christian command structure is gone for good

Even SmellyIrishAss has benefitted from affirmative action

More qualified people got passed over....only a dumb fuck leftist can't grasp what is wrong with that.

Now cease with your middle school shit, it's already old

Actually ....before affirmative action
Qualified people were never given a chance

Good grief....you're all over the map with your rubbish

Try to keep up, SmellyIrishAss
It’s not too hard

You too have benefitted from affirmative action
You just won’t admit it

 

[Rocko]

Great.....another one. You think that all these people got ahead in life because of some corrupt program. You don't give those people credit for their own accomplishments, you say they couldn't have done it without AA. Pathetic.

Is your mother, wife or daughter a secretary, teacher, nurse or beautician?

If not, they have benefitted from affirmative action

Sorry that’s bs

Show me how many women or minorities were in executive positions in the 1960s

Correlation....

Show me the numbers of women in executive positions, women who got into med school, female engineers, female accountants

A woman in the 60s with a college degree was offered a secretarial position

Until affirmative action

Correlation does not equal causation. Times and attitudes have changed. Women and minoritys have made great progress on their own.

 

[Rocko]

AA didn't exist then...but my father was career Navy and he told many a good man and woman got passed over due to AA. It's not right and careers stalled due to it

And our services have many more minorities and women in positions of command.

The Lilly White, Christian command structure is gone for good

Even SmellyIrishAss has benefitted from affirmative action

More qualified people got passed over....only a dumb fuck leftist can't grasp what is wrong with that.

Now cease with your middle school shit, it's already old

Actually ....before affirmative action
Qualified people were never given a chance

Good grief....you're all over the map with your rubbish

Try to keep up
It’s not too hard

You too have benefitted from affirmative action
You just won’t admit it

Sassy is a pretty smart girl. I don’t think she needs AA to get ahead.

 

[rightwinger]

In your opinion was the government program which authorized the U.S. Army Air Corps to train a group of African American men as pilots during WWII an "affirmative action" program? And if so, who was more qualified to do the job than they that they displaced?

AA didn't exist then...but my father was career Navy and he told many a good man and woman got passed over due to AA. It's not right and careers stalled due to it

And our services have many more minorities and women in positions of command.

The Lilly White, Christian command structure is gone for good

Even SmellyIrishAss has benefitted from affirmative action

More qualified people got passed over....only a dumb fuck leftist can't grasp what is wrong with that.

Now cease with your middle school shit, it's already old

Actually ....before affirmative action
Qualified people were never given a chance

So it your contention that minoritys and women are only where are today because of a government discrimination program? Surely there are some that made it on their own merit, no?

Absolutely
Merit does you no good if you are not given a chance

Affirmative action gave them that chance. Now, we don’t think twice if a woman or black is a doctor, CEO or even president

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Great.....another one. You think that all these people got ahead in life because of some corrupt program. You don't give those people credit for their own accomplishments, you say they couldn't have done it without AA. Pathetic.

Is your mother, wife or daughter a secretary, teacher, nurse or beautician?

If not, they have benefitted from affirmative action

Sorry that’s bs

Show me how many women or minorities were in executive positions in the 1960s

Correlation....

Show me the numbers of women in executive positions, women who got into med school, female engineers, female accountants

A woman in the 60s with a college degree was offered a secretarial position

Until affirmative action

That was over a half-century ago. Get with the program.

 

[rightwinger]

And our services have many more minorities and women in positions of command.

The Lilly White, Christian command structure is gone for good

Even SmellyIrishAss has benefitted from affirmative action

More qualified people got passed over....only a dumb fuck leftist can't grasp what is wrong with that.

Now cease with your middle school shit, it's already old

Actually ....before affirmative action
Qualified people were never given a chance

Good grief....you're all over the map with your rubbish

Try to keep up
It’s not too hard

You too have benefitted from affirmative action
You just won’t admit it

Sassy is a pretty smart girl. I don’t think she needs AA to get ahead.

Unless she is a secretary or nurse.......SmellyIrishAss benefitted from the opportunities affirmative action brought

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Affirmative action hurts those more qualified...needs to end

In your opinion was the government program which authorized the U.S. Army Air Corps to train a group of African American men as pilots during WWII an "affirmative action" program? And if so, who was more qualified to do the job than they that they displaced?

AA didn't exist then...but my father was career Navy and he told many a good man and woman got passed over due to AA. It's not right and careers stalled due to it

And our services have many more minorities and women in positions of command.

The Lilly White, Christian command structure is gone for good

Even SmellyIrishAss has benefitted from affirmative action

More qualified people got passed over....only a dumb fuck leftist can't grasp what is wrong with that.

Now cease with your middle school shit, it's already old

Actually ....before affirmative action
Qualified people were never given a chance

I think you are confused between anti-discrimination laws and AA. They are not the same thing.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes it has, for losers.

Anyone with a mother, wife or daughter has received the benefits of affirmative action. Along with minorities, handicapped

A major success

Great.....another one. You think that all these people got ahead in life because of some corrupt program. You don't give those people credit for their own accomplishments, you say they couldn't have done it without AA. Pathetic.

Is your mother, wife or daughter a secretary, teacher, nurse or beautician?

If not, they have benefitted from affirmative action

Sorry that’s bs

Show me how many women or minorities were in executive positions in the 1960s

Not many white men were in executive positions in the 1960's.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

More qualified people got passed over....only a dumb fuck leftist can't grasp what is wrong with that.

Now cease with your middle school shit, it's already old

Actually ....before affirmative action
Qualified people were never given a chance

Good grief....you're all over the map with your rubbish

Try to keep up
It’s not too hard

You too have benefitted from affirmative action
You just won’t admit it

Sassy is a pretty smart girl. I don’t think she needs AA to get ahead.

Unless she is a secretary or nurse.......SmellyIrishAss benefitted from the opportunities affirmative action brought

Maybe you could prove that, winger? Let me explain your problem, you don't know the first thing about what I have done in my career,not one single thing so take your BS and stick it up your ass old man. Your crap is old and tiresome

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Whites never had AA. In fact, European Americans used to discriminate against other European Americans years ago. It took my father a long time to get into the bricklayers union because of his Polish descent, and they told him that's why he was being rejected

Women, including white women, along with minorities are considered "socially and economically disadvantaged". This does not mean intellectually disadvantaged, it means that these groups have not been able to obtain the same gains that others have because of discrimination not unlike the discrimination that your dad experienced with one difference. Both groups, women and minorities were excluded from laws that allowed the majority people to prosper.

 

[rightwinger]

In your opinion was the government program which authorized the U.S. Army Air Corps to train a group of African American men as pilots during WWII an "affirmative action" program? And if so, who was more qualified to do the job than they that they displaced?

AA didn't exist then...but my father was career Navy and he told many a good man and woman got passed over due to AA. It's not right and careers stalled due to it

And our services have many more minorities and women in positions of command.

The Lilly White, Christian command structure is gone for good

Even SmellyIrishAss has benefitted from affirmative action

More qualified people got passed over....only a dumb fuck leftist can't grasp what is wrong with that.

Now cease with your middle school shit, it's already old

Actually ....before affirmative action
Qualified people were never given a chance

I think you are confused between anti-discrimination laws and AA. They are not the same thing.

They came at the same time
Affirmative action forced universities and employers to give people a chance even if they were not male, white and Christian

 

[rightwinger]

Actually ....before affirmative action
Qualified people were never given a chance

Good grief....you're all over the map with your rubbish

Try to keep up
It’s not too hard

You too have benefitted from affirmative action
You just won’t admit it

Sassy is a pretty smart girl. I don’t think she needs AA to get ahead.

Unless she is a secretary or nurse.......SmellyIrishAss benefitted from the opportunities affirmative action brought

Maybe you could prove that, winger? Let me explain your problem, you don't know the first thing about what I have done in my career,not one single thing so take your BS and stick it up your ass old man. Your crap is old and tiresome

I know you married for money and never accomplished anything on your own

 

[Asclepias]

All Americans have benefitted from Affirmative Action

It has been a major success

Yes it has, for losers.

So you admit whites are losers for having 400 years of AA?

Whites never had AA. In fact, European Americans used to discriminate against other European Americans years ago. It took my father a long time to get into the bricklayers union because of his Polish descent, and they told him that's why he was being rejected.

Of course white males had AA. They had 400 plus years of it.

 

[Asclepias]

If their families were enslaved they would have the same baggage Black families have now.

Not officially but definitely unofficially

Yes all whites had help in comparison to Blacks.

You sound like an idiot. I have been discriminated against and I am younger than you.

Its not good to make excuses but its important to know the reasons. Thats why I am a success. I realize that no matter how easy whites make it for themselves they cant stop me when I out work them.

If there is any truth to what you say, then you should be against AA more than anybody.

And what baggage do you speak of? Making bad decisions like having kids before you're actually an adult yourself has nothing to do with baggage, it has to do with making bad decisions. Spending money you make instead of saving or investing it is not baggage left behind to you. It's making bad decisions in life.

Why should I be against the idea of 400 years of Black AA?

None of your business really but yes some of that stuff you mentioned.

Because if you are in anyway successful, AA makes you look bad. Everybody assumes you are successful because of AA instead of your own abilities and achievements. You didn't earn your own way, you were given a way by government. It's insulting to any successful person.

It's just like when you made that comment about my beverage store owner. You automatically assume his success was not because of hard work and learning, his success was because somebody gave him a loan that wouldn't loan money to blacks. I can assure you that if he read this blog and knew we were talking about him, he would be totally insulted. Even at his age, he still works night and day. When not at the store, he drives out 40 miles to his hotel to help his wife with chores she can't handle. They aren't that much younger than I am.

Makes you look bad? I dont care what people think. You should have learned that as an adult.

I didnt assume anything. As a matter of fact I pointed out he was one person and said lets pretend like he was an entire race. You really need to work on your reading comprehension.

AA makes a lot of people look bad because it's assumed (like you did with my beverage store guy) they didn't or couldn't do it on their own. Any self-made person would be offended by that. They would be offended even more if somebody did make it to their level of success because of AA instead of doing it on their own.

Again if you were successful yourself you would realize what people think of you doesnt matter. Youre telling on yourself here.

 

[Asclepias]

Affirmative action hurts those more qualified...needs to end

In your opinion was the government program which authorized the U.S. Army Air Corps to train a group of African American men as pilots during WWII an "affirmative action" program? And if so, who was more qualified to do the job than they that they displaced?

AA didn't exist then...but my father was career Navy and he told many a good man and woman got passed over due to AA. It's not right and careers stalled due to it

And our services have many more minorities and women in positions of command.

The Lilly White, Christian command structure is gone for good

Even SmellyIrishAss has benefitted from affirmative action

More qualified people got passed over....only a dumb fuck leftist can't grasp what is wrong with that.

Now cease with your middle school shit, it's already old

I think RW realizes that more qualified ppl have gotten passed over, he just doesn’t care as long as certain groups get a hand up. I’m not sure if he realizes how counterintuitive that thought process is.

How do you know more qualified people got passed over? You cant tell if someone is qualified for the job until they are actually doing it.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Good grief....you're all over the map with your rubbish

Try to keep up
It’s not too hard

You too have benefitted from affirmative action
You just won’t admit it

Sassy is a pretty smart girl. I don’t think she needs AA to get ahead.

Unless she is a secretary or nurse.......SmellyIrishAss benefitted from the opportunities affirmative action brought

Maybe you could prove that, winger? Let me explain your problem, you don't know the first thing about what I have done in my career,not one single thing so take your BS and stick it up your ass old man. Your crap is old and tiresome

I know you married for money and never accomplished anything on your own

Well no, I left my career to raise our children. See, winger once again you're pulling shit outa your ass and flinging it hoping something sticks.

My husband didn't have a pot to piss in when we married (massive student loan debt), together we have built what we have, no help, nothing, we did it. You should try it sometime instead of being ate up with jealousy over those of us that did. But perhaps you're just incapable of doing it....yes that is likely it

 

[LoneLaugher]

THOSE PEOPLE are not even embarrassed by it. That is all anyone ever needs to know about THOSE PEOPLE.

They have no clue that being patronized is racist and none but ourselves can emancipate our minds from MENTAL SLAVERY.

In other words they are nothing but mental slaves and nothing but AUTOMATIC VOTES for their original massas. The democrat party which thrives on their misery.

You're so PC.